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1854358 No.1854358 [Reply] [Original]

Should I spend 1k for a modern looking front load washer dryer combo or should I buy old style top loading washer dryer combo for 600?

>> No.1854364

From what I know:

Top loaders work but waste resources, and have smaller capacity

Front loaders tend to be Korean and not made to the same quality; service is so-so. The consumer versions IMO do not wash as well as the commercial versions found in laundromats.

IMO, if you work in a dirty field (mechanic, construction) no question top loader.

If you work in an office and don't get crazy dirty, a front loader is fine.

Good brands: Maytag in the past, Whirlpools are so-so. Most guys like fixing direct drive top loaders made in Ripon, WI.

If you're going to get a front loader, most guys like Samsung. I personally can't get a good wash out of front loaders made in the last 10 years.

I'm a laundromat user and have no complaints. They use Huebsch, Dexter, and Speed Queens. 20 minute cycles, clean, and I can get my laundry done in roughly 30 minutes, hang em up in 10 and take em down in 10 to fold. I typically use American made front loaders unless it's real dirty, then it's top loaders. I would rather purchase a used commercial front loader instead of a luxury Miele or Fisher & Paykel.

IMO.
1. It should wash well
2. It should be reliable
3. It shouldn't take longer than 30 minutes a cycle. Ideally 20-25.
4. Size is not a concern
5. Other features, like electronics are just points of failure

>> No.1854368

>>1854364
Order from an appliance shop if you have one nearby. It's definitely a step up in terms of installation compared to a big box store, say a hardware store, Costco, or the like.

There's loads, I mean loads of appliance repair guys because top load washers are dead simple to repair.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1sWwB45heL1CfLHLBXCXow

>> No.1854383

>>1854364
OH when I say top loader, I mean those with an agitator and less functions

>> No.1854384

>>1854364
^^ Good advice right here.

I have a front loader in my apartment, and I like it.

Pros:
Doesn't use a lot of soap or water, and it has room for big loads - sheets and blankets are no problem.

Cons:
Takes 60+ minutes on "normal" (not sure if that's normal or not, it's annoying)
Once you start a load you can't open the door (like if you missed a shirt you meant to wash, too bad)

But it seems to clean the clothes well enough.

>> No.1854396

>>1854358
To me, top load washing machines should last longer unless the front loader has a sealed end bearing coupled to the other end of the washing cylinder for stability and strangely enough non of them do so all the weight is on the motor shaft.

>> No.1854398

>>1854358
what ever you do don't buy gook, fuck samshit, and lg.

>> No.1854407

>>1854364
aren't commercial washer 3 phase?

>> No.1854527

>>1854358
Front loader.
Top loaders do horrible job at washing shit.
>>1854364
Just the opposite.
>>1854384
Shit washer you have, 15 minutes and done.

>> No.1854528

>>1854358
front load is easier on your clothes. just make sure you let the washer dry or wipe the seal once its done or it gets moldy

>> No.1854537

>>1854364
This sounds like it could be legit, if you've never seen a top load washer working. Put a magnet on the lid sensor of a top loader and actually watch it work. It's pathetic. Theoretically the agitator is supposed to sort of fold the clothes into each other so that eventually the clothes on top move to the bottom. Realistically this never happens. Half the time the clothes on top only get wet from the rinse cycle, they never actually get into the soapy water. Front loader washers are guaranteed to get soap over every piece of clothing, and as the clothes roll into each other they scrub them self clean. Top load washers are a meme. If you want actual clean clothes that are guaranteed get soapy water on them during the wash cycle, front loader is the only way to go. FRONT LOADER FTW

>> No.1854539

>>1854364
If you can't get a good wash it's because your laundry detergent is shit. Stick with Tide, it works the best. Front loaders clean ten times better than top loaders

>> No.1854615

>>1854358
They all leak. Even before the modern high efficiency fad, front load washers were known for leaking.

>> No.1854618

>>1854537
top load if you want to have all the replacement parts for it lasting for the next 80 years
front load if you want to buy replacement gaskets and parts every couple years

Front loading washers now more popular because of factories moving towards having only similar models(civilian,commercial,industrial)
and similar pricing points($$$,$$,$)

>> No.1854633

owned both

top loader for simplicity and longevity, front loader for operating efficiency

>> No.1854652

>>1854618
>front load if you want to buy replacement gaskets and parts every couple years
Depends on the brand. LG and Samsung last the longest, and the parts going bad or needing to be replaced depend upon the quality of the water supply you're giving them. I have some particulates in my well water that eventually clog the inlet valves, but front-loaders are really easy to service since the top just slides off and all the parts are right there for the picking. So $50 in parts every 7 years hasn't been a big deal. Though I could have easily avoided the need for that service by using a cartridge filter or two between the spigots and the inlets on the washer.

>> No.1854785

>>1854358
I talked to an appliance repair guy before I bought my new set and he said always go with the old style as they last a lot longer and don't have complicated shit in 'em. Easy to fix on your own too.

>> No.1854792

>>1854358

What about those washing machines that both wash and dry in a single cycle?

>> No.1854831

>>1854615
Oldfag Bong here. Always had front loaders, none of them have ever leaked.

>> No.1854834

>>1854618
>front load if you want to buy replacement gaskets and parts every couple years
This is nonsense. The only time you'll need replacement gaskets is if you need to take the drum apart or remove pipes, and you rarely will. The bits that fail are the motor control or the cycle control unit which you can get at without destroying seals or gaskets.

>> No.1854839
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1854839

>>1854792
It depends on how much you wash at a time. Usually the drying load is smaller than the washing load. That's okay if you wash a load where you take some out because it shouldn't be tumble dried thereby reducing the drying load. But who does that? My daughter has one, she regrets it, because you have to wait for the dryer to finish before you can put another load to wash.

>> No.1854847

>>1854839

Hmm, so I guess you could counter this by buying a maximum capacity drum, then starting with a smaller load.

>> No.1854864

>>1854847
You could, but it eats you up knowing that you should be able to put more clothes in there if it wasn't for the goddamned drying load limit. And there's two more piles of clothes waiting to go in and the next 3/4 load will have to wait four hours until the washer/dryer has finished with the first load. Not to mention that higher capacity washers tend to cost more, which is also a factor on choice of machine. Personally, I would only go that route if I had no choice. Separate washer and dryer are better than a combination. A combination machine is a compromise.

>> No.1854877

>>1854358
i bought a front loader set. had it for 6 months and sold them. never was satisfied with cleanliness of my clothes and the soap that was left on them.

>> No.1854894

>>1854877
You were using too much soap, you only need half as much as the soap boxes suggest. And only use biological soap without bleaching agents. Also add the extra rinse to the cycle (if an available option) so it rinses them with clean water. If your stuff is heavily soiled you should be using the pre-wash as well.

>> No.1854936

I have a front load LG. It seems to be fine but if you don't let the machine air out by leaving the door open, it will grow fingus and stuff around the gaskets. The problem for me is that I can't open it without leaving the laundry room door open, and if I leave that door open, it gets in the way. So I just have to deal with a moldy washing machine.

>> No.1854982

>>1854864

I think it's a fantastic way to save a very significant amount of space.

>> No.1854989
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1854989

>tfw could really use a front loading dryer
>apparently one company made a model a few years ago, but since discontinued

>> No.1854991
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1854991

>>1854982
Yes, one machine has half the footprint of two machines. Although you could stack them as in pic related.

>> No.1854993

>>1854989
whoops, meant
>*top loading dryer*

>> No.1855101

>>1854652
>trusting gooks with appliances
that is gonna be a yikes for me.

>> No.1855130

>>1854358
My parents had this issue a few months ago. In socal at least, there was a very limited selection of top loaders compared to front loaders. I don't know about modern top loaders, but the 15 year old top loader that we had was very loud compared to the new front loader that we now have.
The new front loader is very quiet, but it takes a long time to wash. It has a timer display, and depending on the load size, it can literally take 2 hours and then some to complete. The old washer would never take more than 1 hour, and that's just my estimation.

>> No.1855153

>>1854831
>none of them have ever leaked.
When why did you keep getting rid of them?

>> No.1855572

get a miele

>> No.1856571

>>1855153
>Control mech died
>machine 20 years old, family hand down
>would cost too much to repair
>everything else would still be 20 years old
>bin it

>Motor died taking motor controller out
>Got repaired
>1 year later (when repair warranty had run out) kept tripping supply
>8 years old
>bin it

>washer/dryer
>Door kept sealing itself shut on drying cycle
>Wife couldn't open it
>Kept bitching about it
>bin it

>Nothing wrong with next one
>divorced bitching wife
>needed new washer for new place

Bear in mind, Bong washers were made almost exclusively in Italy, almost as bad as chinkshit.

Now have Beko, made in Malaysia, 12 years old, never gone wrong. Fuck Italians. Coronachan was too soft on them.

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>>1854358
front loaders aint a meme. they're good and efficient. Only drawbacks are they can't hold as much as a top loader and once that door is shut and the cycle started you cannot chuck in that sock you dropped on your way to the machine. Washer dryer combos, now that is a fucking meme and always has been.

>> No.1856585

>>1855130
>The new front loader is very quiet, but it takes a long time to wash
In part, the longer wash times are to allow more soaking during the cycle. Soaking is free washing, no motor, no heating. It all helps to get the A++ energy rating. You can have it fast and energy intensive, or you can have it in an energy responsible manner ... actually no, fuck that, you can't have it fast anymore, deal with it.

>> No.1858115

>>1854358
top loader

if the front loader gasket leaks it will flood your shit, also they get super stank if not meticulously maintained, while a top loader doesn't need a hermetic seal so it doesn't turn into a fungus farm if you forget and close it

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>>1854358
Bought these back in 2013. LG. The only maintenance it's needed is me switching out the power cable because the outlets in my new home were different. High efficiency, minimal power, water , and detergent use. Only gripe is that the same efficiency makes the dryer crap at drying. Find ourselves using antibacterial cycle for everything so it dries the first time which goes against the spirit of efficiency I suppose.
That other anon is correct, the type of detergent used makes a huge difference. We tried using Arm & Hammer to save on groceries, noticed less stain removal and clothes had an odd smell after washing. Went back to Gain as the savings were not worth it. Household of 5 , work at an office, can't comment on heavy duty applications.

>> No.1858236

>>1854991
How tall is your wife? Mine would need a step ladder to reach that.

>> No.1858240

>>1854364
(Continuing)
I use a commercial grade American front loader for most of my laundry. Don't get in my predicament, but my career landed me in the trenches, so my clothes more dirty than the rest. Except for mechanics who have to take home their grease stained workwear to wash.

The commercial American made front loaders have rather quick cycles, forgoing many of the energy saving techniques. I think that's the best answer IMO, of throughput in terms of washing most amounts of laundry in a quick amount of time.

That's the thing people don't consider, cycle time. There really isn't an advantage of high capacity HE machines if they're going to take twice as long to complete a cycle compared to 30 minute (traditional) top loaders.

Commercial made products tend to last more cycles over its lifecycle and American Commercial made products have parts you can readily purchase. The price reflects that; usually. If you purchase a machine for $700, with $200 to repair in the near future (4-5 years), it maybe worth spending $1100 for something built to withstand laundromat / commercial use.

I don't like the stain tests most consumer labs use. Sure they may have a tiny little card which have a variety of stains, but it doesn't really capture how real life is. When I have to wash my dirty clothes, I have to remove just about a 1 cup of ultra fine sand (feels like powdered sugar). And for that, I've opted for top loaders which flood my clothes in water. I think front loaders clean as well, but I would rather trust the option which involves more soaking ability.

Detergent is important. The only 2 worth using are Tide (which consistently ranks among the top, due to it's protein degradable enzymes) and Persil. Whites should always be bleached. I suppose you could make your own formulation of a cheaper over the market, mixed with tri- phosphates (they really do clean better), BIZ (protein stain removal), with bits of oxyclean. It will end up costing more than Tide. But w/e

>> No.1858965

Find a service manual before you buy it. It it will tell you how much you need to disassemble to do basic repairs.

I'm using the one that was in my house when I moved in: some upscale maytag front loader. It ends up doing to loads a day minimum, and washes really well. Problem is even the most basic "repair" like cleaning a trap or replacing a $35 consumable gasket requires disassembling the whole front. If you're me it takes about an hour, but I'm sure it takes the pros a quarter of that time.

>> No.1859545

you should go on craigslist and spend $75 on something that works. I think top loaders work better on heavily soiled clothes.

>> No.1859559

>>1854358
Top load washers are the real meme. Inefficient, wobble around, noisier, don't clean as well.
Walk into a laundromat. What do you see? Why? There is a reason. It wasn't a mistake. Top load washers are the mistake.

>> No.1859772

>>1854358
It doesn't matter, the modern appliances market if full of bullshit anyway.

I recently bought a Samsung washer-dryer. Those fuckers had the balls to put a delay of around 1 minute for opening the door when you press pause (you press the button, wait 1 minute for no fucking reason, and then the door unlocks). And why did they do this you may ask? So you feel more included to buy their more expensive models which unlock the door instantly.
Also, these machines are known for having a serious problem with the metal frame that connects the drum to the shaft of the motor (the so called "support spider"). This thing is make of a very poor metal allow, is directly connected to the steel drum (a dissimilar metal), and they both get in contact with the soapy water, the perfect scenario for corrosion. This fucking spider literally disintegrates after a few years of normal use.

>> No.1859774

>>1854358
Go to an appliance shop and buy a Speed Queen top-loader.

Thank me later.

>> No.1859778
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1859778

WHAT THE FUCK i went to home depot and washer dryer sets are TWELVEHUNDREDFUCKING DOLLARYDOOS. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU even the top loaders!

>> No.1859780

>>1854358
Top loafers are objectively a better system as they have bearings on 2 sides of the drum and don't rely on a stupid counterweight system.
But that comes at the cost of not being stackable.
If you have space, top load is the way to go!

>> No.1859842

>>1855572
this

>> No.1859843
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>>1856576
how about washer/dryer/oven combos

>> No.1859846

Top loaders don't destroy your clothes.

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>>1859559

Hmmmm. Why might commercial laundries want front loaders. Also because of their greater economy with water, they would be more profitable, and pay back faster. Nether of those things suggest they actually clean better, because they don't.

>> No.1859888

>>1855572
Its true

>> No.1859897

I've found that the washer/dryer combos are shit for drying clothes and towels
They're also more likely to catch fire on a dry cycle
I'd say get a separate washer and dryer if you can and space isnt an issue

>> No.1859899

>>1859897
Forgot to specify, Im talking about front loading washer/dryers

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>>1859886
>they actually clean better, because they don't.

I've never had a front loader, but I used to have the old style top loader with the vigorous agitator, and perhaps it more aggressively cleaned the clothes. But then I made the mistake of buying the new type top loader with the tiny bump in the bottom. Especially with large items like sheets, one will just sit on top and get wet and hardly move around at all, so I can't believe front loaders are worse. Perhaps it's old style agitator > front loader > new micro agitator?

>> No.1859902

>>1855572
100% this
buy once cry once

>> No.1859920

>>1859901

Jesus, return that shit, I had no idea such an abortion as this existed. Yeah I mean the old style agitator top loader. They are hard on clothes, but they sure can get the stains out.

>> No.1860432

>>1854537
If you don't overload the top loader, the clothes move around. Also, heavy-duty cycle setting makes the agitator spin back and forth more which can also help.

>> No.1860472

>>1859901
that washer has AIDS

>> No.1860474

>>1859778
find a local appliance shop, homeless despot and blowes just want to separate you from your money

>> No.1860518

>>1859901
Those empty baskets are meant for portable washing machines. They can be scaled down to micro size, but they don't make sense at full size.

>> No.1860657

I have a front loader (AEG) and being from /sci/ I looked close at the waste water from each of the 4 cycles. And it is clear that even the last waste water is not something you want to drink. And you don't want to add more detergents, it is also obvious not all is flushed out from the clothes.
And having a little bit of allergy it is important to me that the clothes are absolutely clean and with no remaining detergents either.
So I started experimenting and found that one small cap of household ammonia in the water for the second cycle takes care of this. Waste water 2 is worse but then it gets much better than if I didn't add that tiny amount of ammonia.

>> No.1860659

>>1860657
how come Japanese bath in it.

>> No.1860661

>>1859886
you forgot space.

>> No.1860662

>>1860659
Traditionally they wanted to conserve the water, so many had a bath in the same water too.
You should shower before and after going into the bath water. Forgetting that is a MAJOR faux pas.

>> No.1861042

>>1859846
uh yes they do
frontloaders are gentler on clothes anon

>> No.1861043

>>1859843
what the fuck

>> No.1861055
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1861055

>>1854364
>Front loaders tend to be Korean
Over here in Germany, virtually everyone has been using front loaders for half a century, mostly from German or other European companies.

Very strange that this design apparently hasn't caught on in the US, seeing how >>1854537 is spot-on.

>> No.1861058

>>1854358
Nobody in this thread knows what the fuck they are talking about. HE front loaders are by far superior cleaning tools. And they won't fuck up your clothes. Buy soap made for an HE machine and never look back. The only issues with front loaders:
>have to leave the door open to dry or it gets moldy stinky
>the boot gets dirty and is a bitch to clean
I suspect the people who have problems with laundry not getting clean are ones who put tons of shit in their machine, don't properly select a cycle, don't pretreat, and never clean the drain boot. The boot gets fucking disgusting and should be cleaned every couple of years. Maybe HE top loaders have caught up, but the old agitators are strictly poorfag tier garbage.

>> No.1861078

>>1860657
Vinegar works too.

>> No.1861172

>>1861058
>have to leave the door open to dry or it gets moldy stinky
>the boot gets dirty and is a bitch to clean
superior... no

>> No.1861426

>>1861058

>>1861058
HE front loaders in general are best at cleaning and easiest on clothes but they do have their flaws with the mold/seals/complex circuitry. I had a Maytag Neptune hand me down set from the parents when bought a house to remodel with no washer/dryer. It probably washed 10,000 loads and my dad and I replaced the bearings/belt in the dryer many times, but parts were cheap and repairs easy. However, the stupid things had a critical flaw and both blew out their circuit boards during a brown out and I couldn't find replacements(Couldn't repair the boards either). Meanwhile the stupid simple old school top loader/dryer the girlfriend has from has from 2001 has two capacitors, three relays, and a mechanical timer. I spent $7 on to repair the agitator racket cogs when she said it wasn't cleaning right. Tools need - 3/8, 1/4 socket and flathead screwdriver.

Personally, if you are going to live somewhere short term buy the Korean made stuff with a 5 year warranty for that suburbanite wow factor to sell the place. But if you want long term and ease of repair, buy an old school American top loader/front loader dryer set from Facebook marketplace for $40.

>> No.1861428

>>1861426
>. But if you want long term and ease of repair, buy an old school American top loader/front loader dryer set from Facebook marketplace for $40.

You can't be serious. How old is this $40 washer and dryer set?

>> No.1861461

>>1861428
I live in an affluent area with lots of moves so people often see perfectly fine "older appliances" and want to upgrade during move in for "peace of mind". The $40 set I got was 7 years years old and had little use from a couple who were having a baby soon. Not an everyday find but my buddy was given a 1950s set from someone's lake house for free. Still look new and clean very very well. He is a bit extreme compared to most....

But I also use Ecos biodegradable soap so I can use my greywater in the garden/yard as the old units are water hungry.

>> No.1861474

>>1861428
I know in my area, there are plenty of used washer and dryer shops that repair old units and sell at a discount. When I first moved out, I bought a dryer for 30 bucks from a co worker. Also bought a truck from him for 300 bucks as well.

>> No.1861482

>>1854358
Depends on your situation and what your goals are. For me, if It was my own residence or a rental property, I go with top loaders. They're cheaper to buy, cheaper to service, etc. If I am flipping a house, I always buy a new looking front load set off Craigslist. Buyers love that shit

>> No.1861528

>>1854368
>boards dot fourchan dot org slash diy
>installation

k

>> No.1861744

My boomer mom swears by Miele products. She has Miele washer, dryer, vacuum and coffee machine.
Her washer and dryer broke and she wants to replace them with new miele units.

How good are Miele products? Are they worth the money? I want to gift her with what she wants but holy shit they are so expensive.

>> No.1861749

>>1854358
>Should I spend 1k for a modern looking front load washer dryer combo or should I buy old style top loading washer dryer combo for 600?
Get a front load for 400. Wtf dude.

>> No.1861751

>>1861744
Miele are one of the best, like a top tier product all round. They also have things like dual fill, so you can use hot water as well as cold.

>> No.1861969

>>1861744
Miele is absolutely the best. She probably doesn't need to replace em, a tech could probably fix em and would only charge her $100.

I recently bought their top of the line washer and dryer, and they're fucking phenomenal.
The washer is super light on water (my water bill was notably lower) and has this gilette-style system where you can buy detergent tanks from Miele, place them in a special hold in the bottom of the machine, and never have to fuck with soap again (until it runs out). The dual-fill means if you have a hot water heater good enough or a tankless or whatever, you can shave time off the cycle by preheating.
The dryer is a heatpump dryer, meaning no vent. I plumbed my drain into the washer drain, but you don't have to. The lint traps actually catch lint, and you really never need to clean the heat exchanger.

Only niggles I've had are that the washer and dryer are a bit small, but they get clothes cleaner so I guess thats a trade off. Additionally, if you wanna use steam on the dryer you gotta either not use the drain hose, or fill the water tank with distilled water periodically. Other than that, no complaints

>> No.1862271

>>1861969
>proprietary soap dispenser system.
dropped.

>> No.1862333

Get the oldest top loader that works. Front loaders are all total pieces of shit. Wife wanted a new washer and dryer, so we got a set of LG steam washer/dryer. Thank fucking God we opted for the 5 years extended warranty. The door gasket fills with all kinds of shit. You can't shut the door because it will smell like moldy shit. It constantly throws error codes. The washer has been through 3 controller boards so far. The repair would have been $400 bucks a pop. Whoever thought it would be a fantastic idea to cram a bunch of electronics into a metal box that jiggles like a motherfucker, sometimes hours on end, should be fucking shot. The steam mechanism in the dryer constantly clogs. Despite being the pinnacle of dryer technology, it doesn't seem to dry worth a fuck compared to our old as fuck dryer it replaced.
Maybe a better brand like Miele or Electrolux might not have these issues...or maybe you just end up with a slightly nicer piece of shit with more expensive repairs.
>I honestly wish I still had the 30 year old washer and dryer set

>> No.1862421

>>1862271
You can still put soap in it like a geriatric fag, its just if you don't want to you don't have to

>> No.1862548

>>1861428
>You can't be serious. How old is this $40 washer and dryer set?

2 years old, but it's full of roaches and bedbugs

>> No.1862549

>>1861043
it's a shopsmith for women.

>> No.1862551

>>1858233
>Only gripe is that the same efficiency makes the dryer crap at drying.

every machine can be high efficiency when it doesn't get the job done.

i can get infinite efficiency by throwing the main breaker

>> No.1862580

>>1861078
Don't vinegar/acids kill rubber seals in the washers?

>> No.1862591

>>1859901
They call it a pulsator and it seems popular with asian manufacturers. My panasonic toploader can effectively flip the load top to bottom, but there's still the issue of bigger items floating.

>> No.1862911

Go buy a miele. STFU about the price, do you want something good or do you want chinkshit

>> No.1862919

>>1862911
define good will it last 20 years or will need to replace or repair in 10.

>> No.1862955

>>1862919
Its got a 20 year warranty, and my parents have one thats 35 years old

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>>1854358
I have a top loader and I 3D printed an adapter for the drainage line to adapt to a garden hose. My laundry gray water feeds my pumpkin patch. Waste water is now free fertilizer. Soap doesn't seem to harm anything, at least not yet.

>> No.1863016

>>1854358
what is the meme in this thread bc i've used both machine types and i've been more than satisfied with the results for both

>> No.1863048

>>1863016
They've been pushing the HE version of front-loaders hard over the last few years.

>> No.1863240

>>1862963
Also any bugs that try to eat your veggies are going to die from their gangrene aids

>> No.1863342

>>1862963
maybe you could 3d print a girlfriend

>> No.1863400

>>1858236
6' Amazon

>> No.1863704

>>1862919
>will it last 20 years
Too perfect.

>> No.1864509

>>1854358
What the fuck are you burgers smoking. Euros have been front loading for decades now.

>> No.1864539

>>1863342
The wife is headache enough.

>> No.1864540

>>1864509
yuros also let somalis rape their kids. Always do opposite of what yurotrash does.

>> No.1864597

>>1854358
If you like the smell of mold go with a front loader.

>> No.1864764
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>>1864540
I wouldn't immediately go the /pol/ route, but like any other topic, Americans are grossly misinformed on this. Let me remind you, my fighting Amerimutt, you were also European once.....now, WHOM DO YOU SERVE?

>> No.1864823

>>1861744
My mom has had a Miele washer and dryer for 30 years now
Still beats my shitty Korean washer

They are impossible to move however

>> No.1864825

>>1864823
*40 years old Miele washer
Misremembered there

>> No.1864976

>>1854407
Not sure. I don't know what the benefit would be of multiple 480V or 575V washing machines would be. I imagine they'd all have independent VFDs and the cost of running them would outweigh any profits from the laundromat. But again, I'm not sure.

>> No.1865177

>>1858236
If she doesn't need to stand on a box to wash up in the sink then she will be fine with this. If she does need to stand on a box to wash up at the sink them based Anon for bagging a smol waifu.

>> No.1865181

>>1859772
>Those fuckers had the balls to put a delay of around 1 minute for opening the door when you press pause (you press the button, wait 1 minute for no fucking reason, and then the door unlocks)
That's a safety feature due to morons opening the door, ramming their hand in to get the clothes out and getting their arms twisted off by the drum that is still rotating with the weight of the wet clothes. Before you say that the drum has stopped way before the minute ends, you're right, but it's to make absolutely doubly sure that they don't get sued by impatient retards again.

>> No.1865183

>>1859780
Top loaders have a poorer washing effect due to the clothes just being pushed back and forth as opposed to being tossed around more energetically in a front loader.

>> No.1865185

>>1859843
keke

>> No.1865186

>>1861055
>he washes his clothes in semen

>> No.1865204

>>1854358
buy new ones
a lot more efficient running cost and all that

>> No.1865933

>>1865181
Bullshit. Their more expensive models and machines from other brands don't have this "feature".

>> No.1866486

>>1865181
What a load of shit
My 20 year old frontloader has an inertial break on the drum. You're telling me smamsmug cant put such a device in place?

>> No.1866573

>>1854358
Front loaders smell like mold and sometimes the clothes will fall out when you open them. Top loaders are superior.

>> No.1866583

High efficiency FL washers suck. They just spit water on the clothes. Get a trad washer with a tub that fills with water.

>> No.1866615

>>1865933
>>1866486
That's because this "feature" is the cheapest way to achieve said "Don't sue us" function. The more expensive machines do away with having to wait by using a braking system that stops the drum almost instantly. The extra R&D and manufacturing is partly why the more expensive machines are more expensive, there is also the "You don't have to wait" surcharge.

We got some real thinkers here, lol.

>> No.1866617

>>1860657
Piss in bottle or w/e, leave two weeks outside, top open, free ammonia.
The darker (more concentrated) the piss the better.

>> No.1866647

>>1856571
Beko is made by italians in turkey

>> No.1866667

>>1866647
Fun fact. Beko's parent companies are called Arcelik and Kok Holdings. Not even joking.