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1851516 No.1851516 [Reply] [Original]

>this shed is built by the guy next door
What would you do?

>> No.1851517
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>>1851516

>> No.1851518
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His story

>> No.1851522

>>1851518
>must have septic system
Jesus what an authoritarian hellhole.

>> No.1851544

>>1851518
"I heard what I wanted to do was legal, so I went and did it".
the code is available online for anyone to read, and it's not that hard, just takes time. If you're gonna try to diy shit that's going bump up against the city, read the fucking code.

All that retard hard to do was put it on wheels so it was a trailer.

>> No.1851548

Good lord, I'd have called them myself, too. Meth heads in rural Missouri build better whore shacks out of rotten MDF salvaged from burnt down trailers.

>> No.1851550

>>1851518
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

>> No.1851558

>>1851544
Yeah but do they really enforce such code in the middle of nowhere?

>> No.1851561

>>1851518
His anger is misguided. He should be mad at himself for not taking a few hours studying the codes. They are there for a reason. Without them you get Brazilian slums made out of scrap metal and found/stolen building materials.

>> No.1851565

>>1851558
If they didn't and I was the neighbor complaining I'd sue the local govt for not enforcing it's own code

>> No.1851577

>>1851558
I'm mildly sympathetic to this, but it doesn't matter.
You could make similar arguments about the code being retarded (which a lot of it is).
It doesn't matter if it's retarded or not, it doesn't matter if the inspectors would have come otherwise or not. They guy fell for a meme, broke code, and got caught.

>> No.1851582

>>1851577
I live in the Balkans, we have similar retarded codes but most people don't give a fuck and just build their shit. Problems arise only when a neighbor complains like in this thread
I know a guy that built a two story building working only on saturdays and sundays, to avoid visits from the inspector

>> No.1851585

>>1851582
That's the way to do it. Like I'm all for muh freedoms, but if you don't know the rules you're trying to break, and work around that, you're a retard.

>> No.1851590

>>1851582
>Balkans
It ain’t Paris for a reason.

>> No.1851601

>>1851590
Have you ever been to Paris? Do you have any idea what a shithole it is?

>> No.1851606

>>1851590
my village is more beautiful than paris

>> No.1851635

>>1851582
as we Germans say
>Wo kein Kläger da kein Richter
wheres no Plaintiff there is no Judge.

My neighbor build a shed it looks good on my side he stores his junk in it i would see otherwise. why the fuck should i complain about it.

>> No.1851644

>>1851635
Unfortunately my neighbors don’t want my neighborhood to look like Tiajuana.

>> No.1851647

>>1851606
Beautiful from afar,even more beautiful from up close.

>> No.1851658

>>1851518
>he pulled the "I'm a veteran card"
Fuck him. Fuck him dead.

>> No.1851659

>>1851601
I've been to Paris, France. Most recently in 2019.
I doubt you have ever left your county or State, much less went overseas.

>> No.1851662

>>1851635
no one is telling you to. But it's completely legal to do so, ya?
the guy should find a spot where the people aren't retards. It's not a complicated problem, the guy just an entitled shithead.

>> No.1851666

>>1851662
I don't know man, I don't want some dirt back pissing and shitting in a bucket(if he's even doing that instead of open air) and then dumping it along my property line. Fuck him and fuck you, we have rules and codes for a reason. We are a civilized society now, you poor fucking slobs can't claim you're gong back to nature and impact our lives because you couldn't cut it in the real world.

>> No.1851671

>>1851666
How can we stop them if we can’t even stop a bum from shitting his pants at the library?

>> No.1851672

>>1851666
I don't see how we're disagreeing. I'm saying whether or not someone will or should call the inspector, it's completely legal to do so. German guy stated he didn't call the inspector. But I'm stating he could have if he wanted to, not that he should or shouldn't have done so.

>> No.1851696

>>1851561
>His anger is misguided. He should be mad at himself for not taking a few hours studying the codes.
No, he should be mad at the codes for infringing on his freedom. I can't fault a man for not memorizing utter bullshit.

>> No.1851697

>>1851544
>>1851561
>>1851585
>>1851662
This. Some people like rules, some people don't. The same people that would have a cow if some rando moved into their neighborhood and made them follow new rules are the same people that get asshurt when they move into a new neighborhood and find the existing rules actually apply to them. If you don't like rules DON'T LIVE WHERE THEY APPLY TO YOU. It's fucking easy. There is more land in this country with little to no building codes then have them and this fuckwit wanted to do this near LA. This dude is so dense he has got his own microgravity going on.

>>1851558
Last I checked "near LA" is about as far as you can get from "the middle of nowhere" while not actually being in LA.

>>1851518
>Neighbors
Idiot. If you want to live like a hermit then live like a hermit. None of this building a methshack 30 minutes from LA after spending 10 minutes reading the building codes. My great uncle was a mountain man for most of his life. He said: If your house catches fire and someone is close enough to see the smoke you are too close to people.

>> No.1851699

>>1851666
>you poor fucking slobs can't claim you're gong back to nature and impact our lives because you couldn't cut it in the real world.
They can and they should. The "real world" is a disgusting prison and should be opposed whenever possible.

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>>1851699
Picture related is you.

>> No.1851710

>>1851518

This is how the neighbors got their house burned down .

>> No.1851711

>>1851705
Secret tip: a septic tank is a big boy composting toilet. It doesnt just fill up with shit and you get it pumped out. You could go decades without a pump out as long as your wife doesnt flush wipes or tampons.

Composting toilets are old as shit and they have been done better before the current nu wave of composting toilets

>> No.1851712

>>1851699
How does pouring hot buckets of sewage on the ground oppose the real world?

>> No.1851723

>>1851516
Move.

>> No.1851736

>>1851517
>that window installed backwards
Lol

>> No.1851754

>>1851517
What in God's name is he doing

>> No.1851757

>>1851736
The handle is on the inside.

>> No.1851768

>>1851561
You're still off the mark. He should not have bought land in a regulated neighborhood. $2k just review some documents sounds like an HOA hellhole.

>> No.1851775

>>1851516
Guy builds a meth shack in full view of his neighbors and wonder why they called inspectors on his ass

>> No.1851782

>>1851736
>backwards
Its installed incorrectly but not backwards

>> No.1851826

>>1851782
How would one go about installing this window correctly in this “wall?”

>> No.1851859

>>1851516
>>1851517
call the building inspector cause the shed is using fucking wood as pillars on a sloping hill. It might fall on my property causing damage.

>> No.1851861

>>1851518
why didn't he just buy a trailer?

>> No.1851865

>>1851861
He says the property is too hilly. I doubt there's a single county in California that legitimately allows people to live in a trailer on their own land. Not many places in all of America really that let you do that.

>> No.1851866

>>1851861
It costs a lot to park a trailer at a park.

>> No.1851877

>>1851518
>the city just wants its cut
Uh, nooo, the neighbors were the ones that didnt want your shit shed pertruding from the hillside.
Also, what a bunch of asshole neighbors to wait for the retarded fuck to finish his shit shed before they day anything.

>> No.1851878

>>1851877
>finish
Did you even observe the photos?

>> No.1851879

>>1851644
>Dont want it to look like tiajuana
The funny thing about that is it is not the structures that make it look like tiajuana, its the people.
You could walk those people into beverly hills and it would be instant tiajuana.
Same with africans (see Paris, France)

>> No.1851885

>>1851577
>meme
No, the fucker is jut poor and retarded. At no point did he repeat any meme terms like tiny home or anything like that

>> No.1851893

>>1851879
>those people
Yes because without maintenance and repairs buildings go to shit fast.

>> No.1851927

>>1851893
>without
Worse, with shit tier maintenance and repair. Meaning shit is worse off after they "repair" it than when it was in disrepair

>> No.1851930

>>1851885
Think what you want, but I call to the attention of the court exhibit A:
>>1851518

>> No.1851936

>>1851877
>Also, what a bunch of asshole neighbors to wait for the retarded fuck to finish his shit shed before they day anything.
well, there's nothing illegal to cite until something's there.

>> No.1851939

>>1851885
>totally of the grid, solar and all.

Meme

>> No.1851958

>>1851736
Not backwards, it's just that those tabs should be on the outside. He's a veteran, not a builder. And his shack would have leaked. Maybe next time he'll build it better.

>> No.1851968

You're an asshole for reporting him to the city dicks. Let the man be free. You should have just set up a game cam so you can post the video of it sliding down the hill during the next rainstorm.

>> No.1851976

>>1851666
your comment is the best thing I've read tonight. thank you

>> No.1851983

>>1851516
I think I'd take a time lapse or a photo a day/ a week for a year or two until it collapsed. I'd probably invite people over so we could all place bets. I'd probably talk to the guy to determine the likelyhood of him cooking up meth in there.

>> No.1852008

>>1851518
>Living in cuckistan aka United states
For crying out loud, move from this shit ass country, if you want to be free, grab your dollars and go somewhere else.

>> No.1852012

>>1851879
>>1851893
explain why Mexico's Beverly hilsl looks nice?

>> No.1852015

>>1851968
Calm down, Antifa. No one here reported him, it's just some tard on reddit.

>> No.1852047

>>1851659
I've grown up in Italy you dimwit

>> No.1852073

>>1851516
>>1851518
Living near LA near a residential area is not really where you decide to go "off the grid"
Residential areas like this ARE going to have strong codes, and thats a good thing on the whole.
At a certain point you have to realize slumlords are providing housing to kids and people who are currently down trying to work their way back up. Its a standard to keep people from living in fucking squalor putting themselves or others in danger.

If this was actually out off the grid in a rural area where he is nowhere near people, id have different thoughts on that.
But he isnt, and he is fucking retarded to think he was going to get away with living in that.

I 100% would have called the police if I looked out my window and saw someone building and living in a dilapitdated piece of shit like that, right in my back yard
It looks like somewhere you would go to make meth

Also seeing how he is right outside of LA, and Minimum wage is over 15$ an hour, it still feels like those prices for permits are inflated
He thinks he lives out in the country where people make 4$ an hour and live 20 miles away from the nearest grocery store where codes dont matter and you can actually live off the grid
Should have used his brain

>> No.1852081

>>1851516
>>1851517
Holy shit, every single thing about this piece of shit is wrong. I don't think I've ever seen someone earnestly attempt to build a house and build it so wrong.
>No appropriate footings
>No diagonal bracing
>Beams/joists running incorrectly
>Nothing stacked on top of each other
>No compression in the framing
>'joists' if that's what they are are laying on the flat, not even up on edge.
>just stood up sheets of OSB and tacked chunks of 2x4 to them
>no framing of walls at all
>window installed fucking inside out

And also everything else. Everything is wrong. I sincerely doubt this person, left to his own devices, would complete this structure as it exists in that picture. If he hired me to finish it I would tear it down and start over. If he did manage to complete something, I very much doubt it would stay standing long term.

>>1851757
>>1851826
The window should be installed from the outside. That nail flange you see in the photo should be on the outside of the wall (yes, with the handle still facing inside). But, prior to doing that, you need to have the opening framed correctly, with a header, and appropriate house wrap on the house, and the nail flange gets caulked and taped to the house wrap (cut a flap at the top so the house wrap overlaps the very top of the flange too).
But this thing is fucked, just plain fucked. Guy knows nothing of building methods.

>>1851518
I mean he's kind of right, kind of wrong, and either way an idiot. Nosey neighbors are pissants who need to mind their own business or die. But, he's the idiot that bought this property without checking zoning. Idiot probably never stepped outside of LA before this and thinks that anything outside the city is "the middle of nowhere."

Yes codes exist for a reason, and no we can't have people dumping shit everywhere, and yes this guy probably was going to do exactly that.....

.....but neighbors should talk to their neighbors before calling authorities.

>> No.1852088

>>1852081
>.....but neighbors should talk to their neighbors before calling authorities.
Look at the pictures, look at his post
Do you believe he would be a reasonable man to talk to?
I wouldnt have talked to him, I would have called code enforcement anonymously too
You still have to live near this person everyday, hostile neighbors are the fucking worst

>> No.1852091

>>1852088
Unless you believe he is a literal lunatic/meth head/dangerous person that you cannot even risk speaking with for 5 minutes, yes you should talk to him first before calling authorities, and at least attempt to resolve issues. If the guy was willing to have a Porta potty service come and his house wasn't actually going to hit mine when it fell... Then maybe we could work something out. Maybe I could help him build a safe house too. Calling authorities without talking to someone first is a good way to earn enemies.

>> No.1852095

>>1851877

by all accounts, no reasonable person would think that mexican palace of his is the actual complete building he plans to live in
until they actually start seeing him doing it

>> No.1852097

>>1852091
Its circumstantial of course, I have talked to my neighbors and resolved issues like trees that need trimmed and such
This is the type of guy you would think is a lunatic just from his shack he built
>Calling authorities without talking to someone first is a good way to earn enemies
He will be your enemy the second you tell him his house is dangerous and needs pulled down
At least calling the authorities, he has no clue which one of his neighbors called or if it was a random code guy driving by
He isnt going to retaliate when he doesnt know who you are

>> No.1852103

>>1852097
>He will be your enemy the second you tell him his house is dangerous and needs pulled down
Don't phrase it like that. From his 3rd pic blog post he sounds like a guy that legit wants to be left alone in the wilderness and thought he was doing a wholesome thing. Military guys usually know fuck all about building and practical things, they just know their niche training and it often doesn't apply to civilian life.

Just tell him, "hey, couldn't help notice what you're building, are you aware the city won't let you do that without septic etc etc? Well no I'm not going to call anyone today, but I want to know you're not just dumping waste okay? What were your plans?"

You'd be surprised how receptive people can be when you have an actual conversation.

>He isnt going to retaliate when he doesnt know who you are
Spineless coward. I would shit in your mailbox.

>> No.1852111

>>1852103
So the guy wants to be left alone, he doesnt give a shit about codes and thinks he doesnt have to abide by them, but you think he will be receptive when you start telling him the codes he is breaking and then start questioning whether he is dumping waste or not on his own property?
He doesnt give his shit about your opinion, you are being just as much of a busybody walking unprompted onto his property
As a "military guy" I bet he would get real testy with you the second he sees you, before you are condescending to him

>I would shit in your mailbox.
You would seethe in your living room not having a clue who called the authorities on you
Gonna shit in everyone single neighbors mailbox to cope with breaking a code or bylaw?

>> No.1852113

>>1852111
I think you read people poorly.

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>>1851590
Paris

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>>1851590
Balkan

>> No.1852136

>>1852124
I've seen that section of rail on youtube before, there's a small hole leading into the catacombs in that area.

>> No.1852138

>>1852113
You only have so much at your disposal to judge people
Ex-military act a certain way, especially when they perceive you as intruding on them
Tiny house people who want to live off the grid act a certain way
People who live near LA act a certain way

A whiny reddit post looking for sympathy from like minded individuals is not a good indicator to just him from, especially since you would pretty much be disrespecting him and everything he has been working month on doing
This is literally the roof over his head, this is the land he spent his money on, he clearly is poor and has no more money or he would have done it a different way
I think you are nuts if you think an encounter to give him all sorts of warnings would turn out well in the least bit

>> No.1852140

>>1852138
>Tiny house people who want to live off the grid act a certain way
Interesting that you should know, since you are conversing with one.

>> No.1852148

>>1852140
Well it makes sense as to why you are giving him more leeway than anyone else

>> No.1852169

>>1852148
I once had an angry guy beating on the side of my rig with a hammer threatening to shoot me. He owned a house up the road. I walked outside and spoke with him. He ended up apologizing and asking me to stay. It is not only unconventional people I advocate giving leeway.

Always resolve problems without calling authorities if possible. Keep business in house.

>> No.1852175

>>1852169
I agree. The only reason not to keep your business from authorities is that it can become a liability if things turn sour (the old "defending yourself from a bully" problem).
If every man truly owned his castle, and never worried about justifying his actions to big daddyforce, I wonder if things wouldn't be nicer.

>> No.1852187

>>1852136
I was just thinking the same thing and what occurred to me is that numbers probably go to explore and never come out. I still wonder if they ever found out who that guy was that dropped his camera and ran for his life.
>though I feel like it was staged

>> No.1852190

>>1852175
>If every man truly owned his castle, and never worried about justifying his actions to big daddyforce, I wonder if things wouldn't be nicer.

Its easy to find cheap plots of land in or near residential areas that are weird spots and dont have utilities.
Its easy to build an utter shitheap of a "house" that will hurt property value of your neighbors houses.
Look at the amount of squatters and junkies and outcasts who are willing to live homeless or borderline homeless in crack den type places due to ruining their own life.

Banks and credit unions will throw a house loan to anyone with a 9-5, its absurdly easy even with bad credit.
Do you know how easy and how good VA loans for veterans are?
It makes you wonder about these people. A google employee sleeping in his car and the rich yuppie building an expensive decked out tiny home seem to be the minority when it comes to this stuff.

>> No.1852196

>>1851518
>California
Should have moved to the United States of America first and then done this to be honest

>> No.1852215

>>1852126
Bro, I'm from former Yugoslavia too, hail from Montenegro but have been all over Croatia, too. Don't push your luck, I know plenty of place in Croatia that are a garbage dump full of dirty Serb/Gypsies

>> No.1852217

>>1851699
>>1851705
your brain is the
>disgusting prison

>> No.1852221

build a fucking bunker.
out of sight out of mind.
plant a garden on top.
make the entrance a a manhole tunnel in floor of a car or what ever loopholes the rules.

>> No.1852229

>>1851775
>>1851516
>>1851518
>building a house on a hill with just wood.
They did the right thing. People with degrees fuck up building on hills all the time.

>> No.1852234

>>1851518
>Totally off grid
>Neighbors
?

>> No.1852238

>>1851516
>What would you do?
Wait to buy his land cheap when he eventually sells. Then build an accessory storage shed on it, just to rub it in.

>> No.1852277

>>1852215
>dirty Serb/Gypsies
Do they co-habitate?

>> No.1852303

>>1852277
No,we don't like Gypsies either.

>> No.1852330

>>1852234
Off grid does not mean "hidden super secret hiding from the government lol"

Off grid means without services and utilities. You know, like the electrical grid. Fool.

>> No.1852332

>>1852330
>without services and utilities
That’s why you gotta hide pal. Turns out that decent folk don’t like it when you shit up the block.

>> No.1852336

>>1851516
Well... on the plus side it's not made entirely out of doors like another /diy/ers neighbor did.

>> No.1852351

>>1852190
>It makes you wonder about these people. A google employee sleeping in his car and the rich yuppie building an expensive decked out tiny home seem to be the minority when it comes to this stuff
As someone who lives alternatively, I take offense to being lumped into the same category as those people that make messes, litter, are generally disrespectful etc. Many people do live alternative ways deliberately and consciously and are not just the drug users and whatever that ruined their lives. Don't generalize us all that way. There's a word for that, and it is prejudice.

>>1852332
There surely are no services to that plot of land, simpleton. The term off grid is correct. There are still zoning laws and other regulations and he didn't follow them.

>> No.1852362

>>1852351
>prejudice
That term should be reserved for inherent attributes like race, and should not be used to described objections to abusive conduct.

>> No.1852376

>>1852362
>objections to abusive conduct.
What of my conduct is abusive?

>> No.1852381

>>1852376
living like a gypsy

>> No.1852396

>>1852376
Emptying your bladder and bowels on others.

>> No.1852398

>>1852351
Why is it that all of you off-gridders and no-code guys get super butthurt when someone implies your buildings might be hazardous and or not fit into the neighborhood?

You really sound like that solar guy in the reddit thread who started flaming that firefighter for claiming that non-code strctures are far more dangerous in a fire to fire personnel.

>> No.1852407
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Rate my shed design

>> No.1852408

>>1852008
working on it, pal

>> No.1852413

>>1852408
This. There are plenty of places worldwide where you can build whatever you want.

>> No.1852414

>>1852381
I do that. That is not abusive to anyone.

>>1852396
I don't do that.

>>1852398
>when someone implies your buildings might be hazardous
I am the guy that wrote this >>1852081

>> No.1852415

>>1852414
Addendum: I pee on my girlfriend.

>> No.1852417

>>1852414
Unless you shit into a functioning septic system or municipal sewer, then you are shitting into our water supply.

>> No.1852426

>>1851518
>oooiiiioioioi do u haf a shed loicense for that permit

>> No.1852432

>>1851658
>veteran card
These guys spend time overseas seeing “people” living in huts made of cow dung mixed with human waste. They come home are are shocked by the level of regulations.

>> No.1852439

>>1852417
I shit into a fully contained blackwater system and then empty it appropriately. I don't know why you would attempt to imply otherwise right after I told you I am not someone who fits your generalizations.

>> No.1852450

>>1852439
>empty it appropriately.
Where do you dump it?

>> No.1852452

>>1852417
Composting toilets are a thing too you know.

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>>1851518
He should ride it out until Califags ban the cops like they want to. Then he should crush his enemies and see them driven before him, and hear the lamentations of their women.

>> No.1852470

>>1852452
>Composting toilets
They will red tag your dwelling in my county but ymmv.

>> No.1852471

>>1852468
cops don't enforce building code, ding dong. They are too dumb.

>> No.1852476

>>1851666
>(((civilization)))
kys retard.

>> No.1852478

>>1851699
based

>> No.1852480

>>1852351
>As someone who lives alternatively, I take offense to being lumped into the same category as those people that make messes, litter, are generally disrespectful etc

So mentally lump yourself in with the google employee and the yuppies then.
You cant actually be sticking your head in the sand thinking that there isnt a large amount of people who do this for terrible reasons right?

>> No.1852482

>>1852190
>Banks and credit unions will throw a house loan to anyone with a 9-5, its absurdly easy even with bad credit.
Fuck off schlomo.

>> No.1852485

>>1852482
Its just a thought, trying to speak directly to the audience
If you had money to buy a house outright, you wouldnt be living in a van from the 80s or a house made out of pallet wood like a vagrant

So yeah, you might need a loan if you want to live like a normal human being

>> No.1852488

>>1852485
>fuck poor people
Ok we get it dude you can stop repeating yourself

>> No.1852501

>>1852488
This. Poor people are poor because of terrible decision making. Don’t make it worse by throwing money at them.

>> No.1852503

>>1852488
Reminding poor people that they can go and get a loan to live in a real house, with running water and plumbing and electricity is not saying "fuck poor people"
Its just saying you dont have to live like you are a deficient human in 3rd world conditions
Im guessing a lot of people never even TRIED to get a home loan before going down the homesteading rabbit hole

I know I was very interested in a tiny home because I truly thought I would never own a home by conventional means
Yet on a whim I went into the credit union and it wasnt that hard to qualify for a modest house in a rural area
In fact they have grants to help people move into rural areas which make living out away from people even easier to do, with better rates

>> No.1852507

>>1851606
Post pictures, please

>> No.1852508

>>1851606
>>1851590
>>1852507
Isnt Paris a fucking dump? Have you never heard of the Paris Syndrome?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

>> No.1852514

>>1851666
Hello satan

>> No.1852523

>>1851606
Post pictures of your village, please

>> No.1852540

>>1852508
It is at the moment, really bad homeless problem.

>> No.1852546

>>1852485
>telling people to became loan slaves
don't go fuck yourself, outright kys.

>> No.1852550

>>1852546
Why would I kill myself?
I have a job, a family, and a nice home.
I feel like the urge to kill myself would be exponentially higher if I lived in a tent city or on the side of a hill in a pallet home, shitting into a bucket

>> No.1852551

>>1852480
>You cant actually be sticking your head in the sand thinking that there isnt a large amount of people who do this for terrible reasons right?
Well actually I have been living this way for years and have met literally hundreds of people doing the same thing conscientiously, so again I suggest reevaluating your prejudices.

>> No.1852553

>>1852551
>so again I suggest reevaluating your prejudices.
I live outside of Seattle, thats going to be a tough one friend

>> No.1852554

>>1852550
>side of a hill, shitting into a bucket
Capitalism has failed us.

>> No.1852555

>>1852551
>conscientiously
Then tell us where you dump your buckets.

>> No.1852556

>>1852555
You've never heard of dump stations?

>> No.1852559

>>1851558
>in the middle of nowhere?
if someone can complain about it they must know about it and have seen it therefore it's not in the middle of nowhere if it's in clear view of a neighbour.

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>>1852556
Tell us about your communal dump station anon

>> No.1852566

>>1852565
Many places have them for free. There are websites and apps to show you where they are. Freecampsites.net for example. Just because the weirdos you see squatting are being disrespectful doesn't mean everyone is. You just notice the ones that make a mess.

>> No.1852573
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>>1851590
Budapest is called the Paris of the east for a reason.

>> No.1852574
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1852574

>>1851516
Tell him his house is unstable and will fall. Then offer him a cup of coffee and express my concern to him that this may damage my property. Just like a good neigbour would.
>>1851518
The government (as always) and his neigbours are in the wrong here.

>> No.1852575
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1852575

>>1852507
>>1852523

>> No.1852585

>>1852417
What is a composting toilet? Just because the idea of a composting toilet is foreign to you does not make it unsafe. That said, I wouldn't expect the guy that built this >>1851516 to properly construct one. Unless his plan was to fill buckets with a mix of human waste and sawdust or coir, seal them and wait 2 years before opening. Maybe he was going to install an incinerating toilet. We'll never know since he just found out his freedums were never his and his dreams of gypsy life were dashed by local code and nosey neighbors.

>> No.1852586

>>1852573
That is a really poor picture to use, Paris moggs it and I say this as someone who absolutely refuses to live there
Especially with that piece of shit in the middle

>> No.1852591

>>1852574
Good man. I'm not into neighbors, but I wouldn't mind if you lived in my vicinity.

>> No.1852596

>>1852566
>Just because the weirdos you see squatting are being disrespectful doesn't mean everyone is.
Too bad all the people I interact with are disrespectful
Guilty by association sucks, but you arent going to sweet talk me. Im betting you have never once stepped foot anywhere near these communes that everyone has a problem with.

You called your house a rig, are you a Vandweller? How can you have any clue?

>> No.1852612

>>1852575
nice village

>> No.1852629

>>1852565

That looks like the Tree of Woe

>> No.1852632

>>1852596
>guy has extensive firsthand experience and challenges you to examine some of your preconceived notions
>ACTUALLY I WOULD PREFER TO ASSUME I KNOW BETTER REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU TELL ME

I see that I have tested the upper boundaries of your imagination and found the ceiling low. I'm going to go continue this conversation with a lamp post instead.

>> No.1852636

>>1852632
I dont care about your anecdotes just like you dont care about mine
You living in a van doesnt make the fucking slums I live near ok, it doesnt make the people less fucking scum

>> No.1852643

>>1852636
I didn't say those people aren't scum.
I said not everyone living an alternative lifestyle is like those people.

>> No.1852652

>>1852643
Cool, I never once shit on a yuppie in his hipster tiny home or the google employee in his car.
I dont care about a guy owning a plot of land and living in a solar off the grid home.

The guy from the OP is not that

>> No.1852688

>>1851518
>Buy old motor home that doesnt run
>get it towed to the land via AAA gold membership ($125)
>add "off-grid" stuff
Done

>> No.1852698

The only one who fell for a meme is the person signing his whole life away to pay mortgage to the bank. Then complain at the government when a guy tries to not be a fucking gentile.

>> No.1852730

>>1852698
Not the guy who read some bullshit on reddit and failed miserably? Because I'm pretty sure it's him.
Literally no proof the other people have mortgages, so you're just making shit up to argue against. It's doing the opposite of making you sound informed.

>> No.1852736

>>1852730
Im not sure why getting a mortgage to get a head start in your life and career is a bad thing
You are going to work your career for a long time, youll pay your house off before you retire
If you picked a modest house you can pay it off much quicker

>THE JEWS THE JEWS THE JEWS

>> No.1852754

>>1852736
It's retarded as fuck to _have_ to go into debt for decades just for a fucking house, but im not making that claim in the previous post.
IF you want to go into debt for it, go for it.

>> No.1852759

>>1851522
>Jesus what an authoritarian hellhole.
Because drinking your neighbours runoff shit and piss is the definition of freedom.

>> No.1852761

I'd be more sympathetic if he didn't play the "I'm a veteran" card.

>> No.1852762

>>1852698
Handing over your paycheck to the landlord is so much better use of your money.

>> No.1852763

>>1852761
Are you telling me you dont think Veterans are better humans than civilians?

>> No.1852765

>>1852762
Have you tried living in a leaky shed and shitting in a bucket?
Youve always got options

>> No.1852773

>>1852763
Are you telling us that you do?

>> No.1852774

>>1852773
If you dont support the troops you can get the fuck out of this country

>> No.1852775

>>1852774
lol, which country, retard

>> No.1852776

>>1852775
There is only one relevant country, and it has the greatest military on the earth
Can literally bend over any country we want and impose our will if we so choose to

>> No.1852777

>>1852008
and where would I go?

>> No.1852781

>>1852776
What makes you think I'm in Russia?

>> No.1852784

>>1852781
Optics and reality are two different things

>> No.1852786

>>1852784
Truth and rhetoric also

>> No.1852787

>>1852786
Like the truth of the USA sending Russia 6 billion dollars in Corona aid recently?

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>>1852777

>> No.1852791

>>1852787
More proof USA is Russia's bitch right now, what's your point?

>> No.1852793

>>1852791
>what's your point?
Optics
They pretend they have low corona numbers, yet beg for ventilators from other countries in the form of aid

USA is the world police and give money and help to a lot of countries

>> No.1852795

>>1852793
You're not even supporting your own claim with that. USA lied about numbers also, and accepted aid as well, and from Russia.
It's well off topic, feel free to take the last word on it.

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>>1851518
I had to look this post up
He paid 10k for a fucking hill with no utilities and strict building codes
Other people are saying move to Mexico

>> No.1852798

>>1851518
Coomiefornia.

>> No.1852817

>>1852774
support != place above oneself

kys mongoloid

>> No.1852820

>>1852585
>fill buckets with a mix of human waste and sawdust or coir, seal them and wait 2 years
Who would do this besides the seriously mentally ill?

>> No.1852821

>>1852471
Who do you think shows up if you refuse to comply? Janette the secretary?

>> No.1852827

>>1852821
Think this through more carefully, and specifically what I said.

>> No.1852836

>>1852821
They would send an inspector from the city/county. Police would be sent only if you refused to vacate when ordered, or if a neighbor called and said you were some kind of immediate threat. Police don't show up to inspect building violations.

>> No.1852846

>>1852836
The cops only show up to enforce vacate orders which only happen when the building code is violated.

>> No.1852847

>>1852846
Which invalidates the point in the same way. Cops don't enforce building code.

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>>1852698

>> No.1852872

>>1851516
>I'm a veteran
So he doesn't agree to the rules he fought for?

>> No.1852891

build a bigger fence so i can't see it

>> No.1853165

>>1851516
I'd mind my own fuckin business, comrade

>> No.1853186

>>1852763
I'm saying that most of the military are welfare queens and their "I did 4 years. gib me more stuff" mentality is proof of it.

>> No.1853189

>>1852774
pathetic propaganda is pahetic

>> No.1853197

>>1852847
>Cops don't enforce building code.
True. But they happily drag hippies from illegal shacks.

>> No.1853267

>>1852787
>6 billion dollars
You're retarded, it was 5.6 million worth of ventilators you invertebrate retard.

>> No.1853301

>>1853267
>you invertebrate retard
The fine art of cursing.

>> No.1853302

>>1852763
>are better humans than civilians?
They are regular humans. Shooting gun somewhere in the sand and getting your friends killed is no reason to be considered extraordinary.

>> No.1853329

>>1852891
Do you really want this guy building anything near your property line?

>> No.1853335

>>1852827
Police show up when you tell the inspector to fuck off enough times.

>> No.1853358

>>1853302
What exactly have you accomplished, what threats have you face you neet piece of shit

>> No.1853378

>>1853358
no one cares about your virtue signalling or hurt fee fees

>> No.1853384

>>1853378
>virtue signalling
I dont think you know what that means, just like you dont know what sacrifice is

>> No.1853390

>>1853384
Oh, sorry society is against you snowflake, I guess you can deal with the pressures of pretending to be a vet on the internet but can't deal with the whole world not stroking your fragile ego.

>> No.1853394

>>1853390
>society is against you snowflake

No, society as a whole is not
Only hypocrites who use their freedoms to fight against those who gave them those freedoms

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1853396

>ITT: welfare queens mad as fuck

>> No.1853398

>>1853396
Welfare queens get free section 8 housing with a shitter.

>> No.1853400

>>1853398
They get VA Loans to buy a nice house

>> No.1853403

>>1853394
So you are signalling that reverence is a virtue, and then saying that you aren't virtual signalling.
So you are saying I should let vets disobey the laws they swore to uphold and possibly fought for? But only if those vets are breaking laws you think should be broken, not the laws that other vets think should be broken.
Can a vet call inspection on a non-vet and a vet for the same code violation, or do we need to check with you first?
you have no real position, you're just whining.

>> No.1853405

>>1853400
These days all home loans are underwritten by the feds and it's been this way for 30 years.

>> No.1853407

>>1852789
Ok but what if I also hate niggers

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1853413

>>1853407

>> No.1853454

>>1853407
Somalians believe they are white (no joke.)

>> No.1853476

>>1853197
......if called for a reason other than building code violation, yes, they do.

>> No.1853502

>>1852091
He’s at least an opiate abuser by his comments.

>> No.1853504

>>1851516
Hang out with him. Have a few beers. Use air compressor, framing gun, and scrap to make it non-lethal if not man cave.

Even if he's a meth addled fuck fighting with neighbors sucks.

I'm not saying be a beta cuck and let him walk all over you. But try and at least be friendly enough with a wave or a nod on the way by.

If he starts shit beg borrow or suck for any sort of recording devices you can get your hands on.

Fuck with him to the point he tries to arson your house.

He goes to prison, problem solved

>> No.1853505

>>1851516
Well, i guess if you are young and don't have a good job you could just throttle his ass. ...if he flips shit at u

>> No.1853527

>>1851518
>Off-grid
>California
My God, even the most based of their state are absolutely baseline retarded. I hope they continentally drift into the Pacific.

>> No.1853528

>>1852407
I like it anon. Doable/10

>> No.1853529

>>1851516
>wanted to live away from people
Lives in California

>> No.1853531

>>1853527
......California, home state to the most known permanent off-grid town in the country? That California?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_City,_California

Most of the state is remote, forested in the north, desert in the south. But of course the state is known for its laws and politicians only, both of which are relevant only in the cities. It's the same with New York.

>> No.1853541

>>1852407
1) What is this shed sitting on? If good poured level concrete, framing is OK. If on posts/blocks or something, you want to move to a design that puts all your joists perpendicular across a couple beams (beams leveled on the 4 posts/blocks). If you get lazy and use the rim joists/perimeter as the 'beams', please at least use joists hangers as well.
If it's just sitting in the dirt, re-evaluate your life.
2) I absolutely would not use OSB in a subfloor. OSB is fine for preventing racking of framing in a wall that is never going to get wet, but that's all it's fine for. The stuff swells and rots and compresses and would just make a terrible subfloor. There are similar 'particle' sorts of subfloor products out there, like advantek or whatever, and those are fine, but really, you want 3/4 t&g CDX or any 3/4 t&g equivalent product.
3) It may not be worth working with steel stud on something this small. You can if you want. But I wouldn't.
4) You mentioned nothing whatsoever of the entire roof, which is both crucial and technical, and also shitty to omit from a tutorial.

Otherwise there is nothing 'wrong' with it.

>> No.1853542

>>1853531
Damnit Anon, don't tell the normies.

>> No.1853544

>>1851516
mind your own god damned business and if it falls down because of his shitty build job that's his problem.

>> No.1853578

>>1853544
It is my business when my uphill neighbor is pouring out buckets of human waste.

>> No.1853598

>>1853504
So your bright idea is to waste your free time doing manual labor for a junkie who doesnt want to follow the rules?
Whats the best case scenario, he lives there shitting on your property line hurting your property value but doesnt act like addict he is?

Let code enforcement oust him

>> No.1853601

>>1853531
>both of which are relevant only in the cities.

You mean like LA?

>> No.1853609

>>1853601
Yes, precisely like LA. Good job.

>> No.1853613

>>1853609
Just making sure, you seemed to take offense to the fact that the man in the OP is getting shit on for being in cali, you know, right near LA

>> No.1853632

>>1853613
Well read the reply chain if you're still confused as to my tone.

>> No.1853646

>>1853632
I read the reply chain, your tone doesnt change who you replied

>> No.1853663

>>1851518
>attempting to do this in LA county
There are literally hundreds of places in America where this guy could have done this without anyone giving a shit

>> No.1853808

>>1853646
Im the guy he replied to. I'm still not 100% convinced that Cali city is 100% otg, since it's literally documented in a web article.

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>>1853541
>Otherwise there is nothing 'wrong' with it.
There are too many things wrong with it. Obviously.
>1) What is this shed sitting on?
It is universal. Dirt - no problem, shit not gonna last anyway...
If seriously, no pressure treating or special snowflake paints will prevent rot if you put that shit on the ground. It won't be a big deal if you have real wood for floor, but with plywood or OSB this is the problem, because moisture. This is why you need slab, idk, pic related things, couple brick blocks, etc. It should be ventilated, or mounted on concrete slab.
>2) I absolutely would not use OSB in a subfloor.
Depends on climate really. If I were building for myself, I'd use plywood, or designated sub-floor material.
>3) It may not be worth working with steel stud on something this small. You can if you want. But I wouldn't.
It is perfect, since you don't have to support fuckton of load, thus you can use thin steel studs that are meant for handing drywall. 0,5 mm thick ones, not structural 0,8+ mm ones. (idk how this translates to steel gauge). It is really easy to work with, compared to cutting real wood, nailing it, etc. This one can be but with scissors and screwed with sheet metal screws.
>4) You mentioned nothing whatsoever of the entire roof, which is both crucial and technical, and also shitty to omit from a tutorial.
Yes, because roof wouldn't fit in my joke/ website shilling material.

>> No.1853909

>>1851518
Life is a game, laws are the rules.

If you play a game without reading the rules you are retarded and deserve to lose.

>> No.1853940

>>1853909
Requiring someone to read is obvious racism.

>> No.1853947

>>1853407
Move to the north pole.

>> No.1853956

>>1853808
Are you retarded? 'Off grid' means without services and utilities. I assure you, there are no services or utilities in Slab City. I've spent weeks there. Solar, generators, hauling water.

'Off grid' is not some mystical super secret thing that becomes invalidated somehow when an article is written.

>> No.1853960

>>1853956
>I've spent weeks there.
Doing what?

>> No.1853974
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>>1853960
>Doing what?

Fucking around with dirty hippies in the dirt. Obviously.

>> No.1853976

>>1853974
Obviously.

>> No.1853984

>>1853974
Charming. What's up with her navel?

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>>1853984
Huh, that does look funny there, like a double circle. She only has one belly button. I think the skin atop it just caught the light right to look weird.

>> No.1854002

>>1853974
>>1853990
Is this the shit pond?

>> No.1854045

>>1854002
No, it's a natural hot spring. Some people treat it like a jacuzzi. The locals use it for bathing. But basically it's a tepid mudhole full of dirty hippy filth and squatter underarm brine.

>> No.1854088

>>1852008
ah yeah move to some 3rd world shithole where you can shit in the open no questions asked no licenses. freedom!

>> No.1854116

>>1854088
This is silly and unnecessary. There is no force in the Universe that can stop you from shitting in your own pants.

>> No.1854120

>>1854116
What if one prefers the intermediate step of taking off one's pants first, and still wants to do it anywhere?

>> No.1854121

>>1854120
Dress poorly and rant incoherently.

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>>1851516
>california
>death trap shed
>california

>> No.1854186

>>1852047
Yeah, that's what all you New Yorkers say

>> No.1854190

>>1853974
>>1853990
Nice way to get a urinary tract infection.
Or Hepatitis

>> No.1854260

>>1854190
48% chance of Herpes

>> No.1854291

>>1854190
I've had many UTIs and am unafraid.
Hepatitis is one I don't want, but I don't think anyone actually shits in that hot spring. Again, that's where the locals bathe so they do try to take care of it as best they can. The bottom is lined with old carpet so your feet don't get stuck in mud.

I would not recommend putting your head in the water though. Lots of people do it, but I wouldn't. Hot springs have been known to host flesh eating bacteria and if you do happen to get that, you don't want it in all the orifices in your head.

>>1854260
That chick does have herpes. Gives good handjobs though and takes it in the ass like a champ considering she's like 98lbs.

>> No.1854306

>>1854291
Bathing in a dirty pit is essentially shitting in it
What do you think you are "bathing" off of your body?

>> No.1854309

>>1854306
Mostly sweat and dirt, maybe a little poo if the other guy didn't wipe well, but, I'd think if he wiped at all then the remaining viruses would have died off fermenting in his ass sweat all day long. Otherwise, hepatitis is bloodbourne and requires fluid transmission to contract.

I've been a lot of dirty places, and I don't have hepatitis yet. Don't shoot up and don't fuck junkies or fags without a rubber. Follow those two rules and you'll mostly be alright.

>> No.1854314

>>1854309
Have you ever wondered why people have preconceived notions of those who live alternatively?

>> No.1854319

>>1854314
Try a hot spring sometime. You'll like it.

>> No.1854337

>>1854319
Its on my bucket list, I hear Japan has some really mind blowing ones that arent mud holes in a commune

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>>1854337
To each their own.

>> No.1854449

>>1851518
>I am a veteran
And?

>> No.1854467

>>1854260
>48% chance of Herpes
isnt that average number population wise?

>> No.1854474

>>1852575
Predivno

>> No.1854497

>>1853956
I'm curious, is there internet access there? I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to get line of sight to a cell tower and then use a directional antenna, considering the desert out there is mostly flat.
I really like the idea of having a livable van that my wife and I can take far away from civilization on a long weekend.

>> No.1854500

>>1854497
There is moderate to decent cell reception out there these days, you can use that for mobile hotspots.
I always like to park up by the water towers were reception seems to be best.

>> No.1854505

>>1854500
Oh nice, if a simple mobile hotspot can get reception then there's plenty of signal.
I'll have to check that place out when I move back to the US. I'm currently stationed in the UK and this place is so cramped, it feels like no matter how "rural" you go, you're always just in someone's backyard.

>> No.1854933

>>1853956
Dude it's okay. You're from California and you have no clue what true off-grid is like. Maybe visit the Midwest and you'll see. We don't have fancy internet folk meming up our hideouts. Your definition of off-grid reeks of city-dweller pussy.

>> No.1854964

>>1852820
Some folks on YouTube. I haven't done it, but it's better than shitting and pissing into your yard

>> No.1854987

>>1853984
Some people have two moms anon. Not everyone was raised in a hetero family

>> No.1854998

>>1854449
That means he is above the law because he marched every morning and did a menial job for the government for 3 years

>> No.1855161

>>1852124
Choo choo

>> No.1855253

>>1854933
I'm not from California.

>> No.1855772

>>1854291
No kissing. Do not let her spit on your dick, and check the anus for open sores (it does happen). Otherwise you’re good to go.

>> No.1855778

Pretty foolish for spending all that time and money without knowing it was legal. We can whine about freedom and shit all day, but the laws are what they are and he should have known better than to do all that without being certain.

>> No.1855799

>>1852103
>I'm a spineless coward. I would shit in your mailbox.
FTFY

>> No.1856133

>>1851561
> His anger is misguided. He should be mad at himself
he is an American, nothing is his fault, his freedoms are being removed...

>> No.1856134

>>1852124
One day the far right will be voted into power and the insulated liberals will be wailing and wondering why the majority of voters hate these wonderfully exotic and cosmopolitan Doctors and Engineers the mainstream media tells them about.

>> No.1856136

>>1852575
Houses not on fire? Check.
Landscape only partially covered in trash? Check.
Number of visible mosques? 0
Number of visible Africans? 0

Yep, you win. Better than Paris

>> No.1856137

>>1852632
Of course, we should just assume that the guy who is completely invested in defending his edgy, counter culture, tax dodging, free loving, substance abusing, bucket shitting lifestyle is the very paradigm of detached impartiality

>> No.1856140

>>1852774
I support the troops. I don't fellate the troops.

Resilience, resourcefulness, backbone, grit... why do so many veterans lose all this the minute they stop receiving a bed, three meals and literal 24/7 hand holding? For big tough manly men they sure do whine like bitches.

>> No.1856157

>>1852774
>>1856140
>reeeeee I'm a veteran
I hate it when people use this when it has nothing to do with the situation.

Great, you served. Big whoop.
Anyone who's been in the military can tell you that doesn't mean jack shit.
You can be a "veteran" and only have served 4 years at basically a desk job.
Guys who do this are the most likely to say "I'm a veteran" when it has nothing to do with the issue and also tend to be the type who think wearing any jungle camo from the 60's is stealing valor.

These fucking whiners who run around saying "I'm a veteran, I'm a veteran, I'm a veteran" regardless of the context likely never saw combat and are trying to milk it as much as possible.

It's basically the male version of a karen.

>when E-4s try to act like serving the bare minimum makes them an expert in everything

Get the fuck out of here. no-one enlists because they have their shit together. Those people go to college and get a commission.

>> No.1856439

>>1856157
Based

>> No.1856441

>>1851516
Give a call to the town hall and to the local police.

>> No.1856471

>>1856157
I’m a veteran and this post sucks, I demand you delete this right now!

>> No.1856474

>>1856471
ok, boomer

>> No.1856615

>>1856157
Take a bunch of young guys, many down on their luck, brainwash them to have hubris level confidence, give them all sorts of perks and privileges for their job, and then all the "civilians" are forced to constantly suck their dick like they are heroes

Its not surprising at all they pull the veteran card all the time

>> No.1857408

>>1851516
If there's no risk of it coming onto my property when it inevitably collapses, I wouldn't do anything.

>> No.1857417

>>1857408
What if you want to sell your house?

>> No.1857419

>>1857417
I'd refuse to lower the price. Even if it means waiting for a few years.

>> No.1857428

>>1857419
Why would anyone buy next to this?

>> No.1857430

>>1857428
Someone desperate enough would eventually buy it, if the number of available properties are low enough. But that aside, regardless of the neighbors, I'd probably opt to turn the property into a rental rather than sell it.

>> No.1857435

>>1857408
>it coming onto my property
Are you referring to the sewage or structure?

>> No.1857440

>>1857435
Either

>> No.1857449

>>1857417
Ignore him, he has no fucking idea what its like to own property and watch its market value plummet from low lifes and trash scum ruining the neighborhood

>> No.1857453

>>1857419
>loaning some insane asshole living in a shack the value of your home with only the rate of plywood and 4x4s rotting as collateral

>> No.1857511

>>1851712
How do codes mandating a 1000 gallon septic system for a single person make sense? Minimum, applied for every dwelling across the board?

What it boils down to:
How much shit can one person take?

>> No.1857521

>>1857511
1000 gallon is pretty much standard, and only costs a few hundred dollars more than 750 gallon tanks
If you are building a house, its literally not even a consideration

>> No.1857524

>>1851666
It's a strange coincidence that your post number is the number of the beast, and that you also openly display the mark.

>> No.1857528

>>1857524
>"those of us who live alternatively are well adjusted people"

>> No.1857532

>>1857521

>if you're building a house
>op's pic
>a house

>> No.1857534

>>1857528
>I make up labels for people who I disagree with and cast them as "outsiders"

getting even closer, now you just need to persecute them

>> No.1857543

>>1857534
What labels are you talking about?
The "alternative living" label, the one that faggot in the RV used on himself?
Being outside of normal society is quite literally the point of off grid "alternative living" lifestyles

Thats the definition of being an "outsider"
Unironically talking about the "number of the beast" is very telling about you and as to why you would be a fucking anti-social outsider

>> No.1857548

>>1857532
Building codes are for houses, the fact that OPs guy tried to game the system and build something outside of the code doesnt change that
The minimum size of the septic is not a consideration, and the requirement of having septic is not unreasonable

>> No.1857549

>>1857511
Hippies and dirtbags often live 6-8 per room.

>> No.1857557

>>1857534
There is no "persecution", you are outside of normal society you are not entitled to people making concessions and compromises in the real world for you idiots
You are irrelevant to pretty much everyone until you start impeding on everyone else

They should throw the book at the guy in the OP, hes a fucking idiot
Thats not persecution, thats trying to find loopholes and game the system but getting burnt

>> No.1857558

>>1857548
The requirement size for a single person is unreasonable, as per my statement "across the board". Which means no matter how many people live in the "household" or it's size, the minimum requirement of a septic system that can accommodate 4 people is unreasonable.

>>1857543
Whatever thinking you choose to use to separate you from "them" and make them "those people".

>>1857549
>6-8 per room
see >>1851518

>> No.1857560

>>1857557
>you're only allow to play the game if you play by our rules
>land of the free

>> No.1857561

>>1857558
>Whatever thinking you choose to use to separate you from "them" and make them "those people".

It was you who chose to stray away from society in the first place

>The requirement size for a single person is unreasonable

Society does not make concessions for outsiders wanting to live in a shed
An ample sized septic tank for an average home is not an unreasonable code

>> No.1857565

>>1857560
>you're only allow to play the game if you play by our rules

Thats literally part of being a citizen of any country
Why do you feel like you are outside of the law?

>> No.1857568

>>1857521
>you need 1000 gallons
>it's only a little more than 750 gallons, which would also be ok

Jewing our way down into reasonableness, aren't we?

>> No.1857571

>>1857561
>>1857568

>> No.1857575

>>1857565
Why do you feel like you need to bring the law into this? We're talking about codes.

>> No.1857583

>>1857575
Why do you feel entitled to become a resident in a city, but feel like you are outside of their codes?
Better?

>>1857571
>>1857568
What you , the man who thinks its ok to shit in a bucket, thinks is reasonable is completely arbitrary and probably not in line with everyone else
The only reason you want the septic size smaller is so you can make it easier to loophole or game the code

Everyone else doesnt care and understands it keeps shitty housebuilders from jewing you on something they cant see

>> No.1857586

>>1857583
Suppose, just for a moment, that the only reason you want the septic size smaller is because you'll be the only person shitting in it and based on that logic, shelling out cash for one 4 times the size, just because someone says you have to, is unreasonable.

>> No.1857591

>>1857586
I would get over it, because I chose this city and this land to buy, knowing full well I was going to be bound by their codes

But I would never think that, I believe in doing things right the first time, ESPECIALLY when its something hard and difficult to do like burying the septic
If I can go bigger for a few hundred dollars more, you know for sure ill do it
Its less pumping and maintenance later down the line

>> No.1857593

>>1857583
>wanting to live alone far away from people on land that I worked hard for, bought, paid for, and own, and shit how I want to shit on it
>entitled

k

>> No.1857594

>>1857593
So you literally think you are above the rules, but you feel like you arent "entitled"

>> No.1857596

>>1857591
personal choices are a poor foundation to propose building codes on

>> No.1857598

>>1857594
Are they laws, rules, or codes? We're getting off-topic here.

>> No.1857602

>>1857594
>live 1/2 mile from john, who takes a shit in his hard, which has no impact on me and literally couldn't
>live a stone's throw away from farmer john up the hill who has 3 tyson chicken houses 50,000 strong and believe the runoff from chicken shit has no effect on me because "codes"

>> No.1857603

>>1857596
You opinion on how we got to building codes dont really matter, you have to abide by them
Dont like it, get them changed or move somewhere else

>>1857598
Semantics huh?
Not that surprising from the type of person trying to loophole anything he can to drop out of society

You arguing in circles that you dont like building codes (even though you want to live in the city) and you feel they should bend over backwards for idiots wanting to live in a shed isnt doing anything productive
Its making you look like a weirdo, the stereotypical weirdo people think of when people talk about off the grid shitters

>> No.1857605

>>1857602
>minimum codes made to try and keep people from living in squalor
>"If farm animals can shit on the ground, I shouldnt need to have plumbing!"

Farms existing to feed the masses do environmental damage, thats why they have different rules than you, the end justifies the means
The fact you want to live like a farm animal is telling

>> No.1857609

>>1857603
OP doesn't want to live in the city. Changing the argument huh?

>weirdo, off the grid shitters
who have the same rights you do to property, regardless of how weird they are, or where they choose to shit on said property, thus defining ownership of property, which is the foundation of our society. Do you own it, or don't you

>arguing in cirlces
we're doing squares right now, circles is next

>> No.1857612

>>1857603
>bend over backwards for idiots wanting to live in a shed isnt doing anything productive
Its making you look like a weirdo, the stereotypical weirdo people think of when people talk about off the grid shitters
Tbh, if I were in government, I'd just leave weirdos that don't live in town alone, I wouldn't see it as worth the trouble, so long as they aren't in town; out of sight, out of mind.

>> No.1857614

>>1857609
>OP doesn't want to live in the city. Changing the argument huh?

Yes, he wants to live nowhere near the city , buying land right outside of LA in the city, then whining he has building codes
Boo hoo

>who have the same rights you do to property
Nobody said you didnt
Are you going to go off on a sovereign citizen rant now too?

>Tbh, if I were in government, I'd just leave weirdos that don't live in town alone, I wouldn't see it as worth the trouble, so long as they aren't in town; out of sight, out of mind.

This is literally what happens in middle america which is why nobody is conceding anything to the idiot in LA thinking building codes dont apply to him

>> No.1857617

>>1857605
People exist to make money and run the economy so that they can buy the food those farms produce, the end justifies the means.

The fact that you need someone to regulate how you shit and the size of the box it goes in, and what day of the week you can do it, and how many gallons of water you can use to do it, and how many squares of toilet paper to use, and where it can flow, is telling.

But the environmental damage and the diseases it causes doesn't matter, because money is made. So what if those poor saps get cancer. Cancer is expensive and feeds the medical industry. After all, they were doing it by code!

By your logic, if you have enough money, codes don't mean that much because greasing pockets is where it's at. Make enough money? We'll overlook those codes for you.

Want to be left alone and interact with people minimally and not pay fuck tons of money? Fuck you, it's the book and the fines for you.

>> No.1857618

>>1857614
>30 minutes away
>right outside
>in the city
>outside

>> No.1857620

>>1857618
He literally has neighbors you can see in his pictures you retard
What dont you get about "off the grid"

>> No.1857621

>>1857617
>Want to be left alone and interact with people minimally and not pay fuck tons of money? Fuck you, it's the book and the fines for you.

Absolutely, because you want to live in horrible living conditions
Conditions that are unacceptable for normal people, conditions the city will not allow within their limits
It protects the poor who have to rent

>> No.1857622

>>1857621
>being a rentfag
Learn how to get an actual job, poorfag.

>> No.1857623

>>1857622
I own a house, I dont rent
And guess what? Im glad I dont have shanty towns in my backyard filled with actual poorfags

>> No.1857654

>>1857623
>my backyard
Didn't know you owned the entire town, anon.

>> No.1857660

>>1857654
You brought up the number of the beast earlier
Are you a religious man?

>> No.1857756

>>1851518
>not wanting to follow the law
>has a problem with rules
Want to know how I know you're not a veteran?

>> No.1857797

>>1857756
Jesus shut up, you're as cringe as he is.

>> No.1857799

>>1857756
His brainwashing wasnt strong enough was it?

>> No.1858145

Imagine taking an unlicensed shit in 2020

>> No.1858222

What would a nice 25' x 38' or similar home in sask or something cost with permits and shit?
Actually just in general what are peoples experience with permits and stuff. I don't need exact prices, but I just don't know if I'm looking at $300 or 30,000 dollars for permits.
Would be in a small town.

>> No.1858226

>>1858222
I have heard $25 000 for a permit in Southern Ontario. Of course you still need to pay engineers and designer to produce the necessary documents to submit to obtain the permit as well. This varies so much by municipality that there's no single answer that can even give you a ballpark. You have to contact the municipality in question.

>> No.1858228

>>1858226
Alright thanks, guess when I get a SIM card I'll make a few calls to some southern sask towns.

>> No.1858230

>>1852136
Semi related if you like that stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLLOCmX79y0

>> No.1858311

g- groverhaus???

>> No.1858352
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1858352

>>1858311
Holy fuck that's an old one

>> No.1858777

>>1851516
>>1851517
he would have died first rainfall
>>1851518
>its unbelievable I cant live alone away from everyone
>near LA
the fuck

>> No.1858807

>>1858145
see >>1854116

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1858847

What happens if he just doesn't take it down? Like just goes full retard and ignores everything they say?

>> No.1859035

>>1858847
He says in that thread that the city will fine you 4k per day you ignore them
If you ignore the fines long enough, city will hire someone to demolish it for you and then send you the bill
At a certain point they will take you to court and you can end up in jail

>> No.1859041

>>1853531
>boomer liberal hippie religious freaks
no fucking thanks

>> No.1859080

>>1859041
Liberals and hippies arent religious or boomers

>> No.1859090

>>1859080
Its a fucking snowbird community named east jesus.
you're a retard, you belong there

>> No.1859100

>>1859090
I didnt look in the link and I dont care, you are literally posting contradictions

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1859104

>>1859100
ok retard

>> No.1859107

>>1859104
What exactly do you think this picture proves?

>> No.1859108

>>1859107
that you're a retarded faggot

>> No.1859111

>>1859108
Am I a genius retarded heterosexual gay person?

>> No.1859117

>>1859111
yes

>> No.1859374

>>1851518
Land of the PEEEEEEEE and HOOOOMELESSNESS FOR THE BRAAAAAAAAVE