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oil extraction from plants Tue Sep 16 05:21:00 2014 No.698028 [Reply] [Original]

as said in the title, I'm looking for a home made method to extract oil from plants like bay laurel, mint, etc... I do not live in the u.s., so it is not sure I can buy all the stuff you can suggest... thanks to all

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 05:26:56 2014 No.698029 File: 81 KB, 600x390, steam_distillation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is probably one of the simplest designs You don't need to use any lab equip, just some stoppered glassware and a heat source

>>	oil extraction from plants Tue Sep 16 05:37:16 2014 No.698033 >>698029 should i put heat system also under the second bottle?

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 05:41:46 2014 No.698035

>>698033
It shouldn't be needed
Just run a test batch and see how it goes.
You will need to seperate the water and oil from the final flask though.
Also a diy condenser can be made by getting two lengths of copper pipe which slide into one another and connecting inside each other using fittings

Sorry if this is vage I'll do one in paint

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 05:45:23 2014 No.698037 File: 10 KB, 1083x636, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hope this explains it more

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 06:22:58 2014 No.698051 >>698028 Soxlet extractor. You also need a separation funnel to separate the oil from the solvent and organic plant matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 06:24:02 2014 No.698053 File: 64 KB, 700x700, SOXLET scheme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>698051 Forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 07:10:42 2014 No.698062 >>698028 Safrole oil is illegal to extract.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 07:24:35 2014 No.698064

>>698062
You mean Sassafras oil, dont you?
I hate fucktards like you who has to go into what is illegal, ruins the fun for all of us.

You cant buy safrole, but sassafras oil is used for flavour, fragrances and in insecticide. You can buy the essential oil quite easily if you want to.

>>	oil extraction from plants Tue Sep 16 07:57:53 2014 No.698074 >>698062 that plant does not exist in my country... and I really don't care in doin' it

>>	oil extraction from plants Tue Sep 16 07:59:48 2014 No.698076 >>698053 this extractor seems to be used to extract a solid part... I want to put apart a oil... does it works?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 08:01:28 2014 No.698077 >>698062 Also, do you even know how much root bark you need? Not to mention a BIG still, or a small one and multiple days of work to produce any decent amount.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 08:07:19 2014 No.698078

>>698076
Yes... that is exactly what it is created to do. Extract compunds from solids, especially if it has a limited solubility in the solvent. Youtube it, and you see how it works.

The solvent gets heated, drips down into the solids, gets drained off, repeat.... until you see that the solids are totally extracted of anything. On plants they generally turn more or less white.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 08:12:41 2014 No.698080

>>698078

Then you need to separate the oil from the solvent. Separation funnel is the best to do this with.
Then, you need to dry it of water, using salt, og better yet magnesium sulfate. Filter it off.

Unsure if you need to do this, but sodium bicarbonate wash would probably not hurt in case there are any acids, you then need to separate again.
Last step, evaporate the solvent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 08:15:21 2014 No.698085 >>698080 Sorry, meant separate the solvent from the water/organic matter, using the separation funnel. The oil should be in the solvent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 08:22:24 2014 No.698090 >>698062 No, it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 15:24:43 2014 No.698284 >>698080 >Then, you need to dry it of water, using salt, og better yet magnesium sulfate. And you do that, how, exactly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 15:38:55 2014 No.698294 >>698284 It dehydrates the solvent. Salt is insoluble in most solvents, and will dissolve in the water remaining in the mix, making the density grater allowing you to separate them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 15:41:23 2014 No.698296 >>698294 you then filter to get out any remaining grains of salt before separating them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 16:33:02 2014 No.698330 >>698064 Commercially available sassafras oil has had the safrole extracted and does not contain any.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 16:52:53 2014 No.698342 >>698330 Really? Didnt know that. What is left then?

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 01:39:55 2014 No.698569
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>>698028
I've placed a copy of
"Guidebook to Constructing Inexpensive Science Teaching Equipment Volume II: Chemistry" on my public dropbox at:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Guidebook%20to%20Constructing%20Inexpensive%20Sc%20-%20Unknown.pdf

I believe this document to be public domain, and apologize profusely if it is not.

This book is designed for teachers and students working in third world conditions, and the apparatus should be constructable by anyone. Pic Related is the dead-simple distillation apparatus. A couple of pages after it is a plan for a simple water-cooled condenser.

Most plant essential oils are extracted by steam distillation. Hot Steam is passed through the plant material and then into a condenser. In the condenser the steam and oil move from the gas phase to the liquid phase. This output is collected in a container. It will be 90%+ water with a small amount of oil. If your container is a separator funnel, you can drain much of the water off without interrupting the distillation.

There are a large number of essential oil distillation videos on youtube. It is worth watching a few to understand the process.

I seem to recall one lady extracting ~ 25 pounds of mint for around an ounce of oil. Her still was a large pot of water connected to a 4 inch metal pipe packed full of mint connected to a homebuilt copper condenser. I was not able to locate the video for this post, but hopefully my description can give you an idea of the plant matter requirements and understanding of how the process works. (and that it doesn't always have to be made out of glass.)

Please post back with pictures!

-ellie

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 01:41:21 2014 No.698571 >>698569 Addendum: If you decide not to DIY the rig, I've had excellent results ordering from Laboy Glass (laboyglass.com)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 06:36:14 2014 No.698650 >>698569 Thank you, not OP, but some cool stuff there, like simple glass blowing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 11:17:11 2014 No.698737 >>698650 Glad to help. I have the other two as well. One is on Life science. The other I think is physics. Reply if you want 'em.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:00:17 2014 No.698770 >>698737 Wouldn't mind the physics one :)

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 20:29:21 2014 No.698935

>>698770
>Guidebook to Constructing Inexpensive Science Teaching Equipment

Both the Biology one and the Physics one are at
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3621645/Guidebook%20to%20Constructing%20Inexpensive%20Vol%20I%20and%20III.zip

(Zip. 4.5MB)

I've built a variant of the Razor-blade balance beam from Youtube directions. It's my only way of measuring <1 gram increments.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 20:38:55 2014 No.698944 >>698935 Thanks again Cool, I just bought an electronic jewelry scale, goes down to 0.01g,

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 20:42:39 2014 No.698947 >>698944 you mean a drug scale. they are not terribly accurate but druggos can't understand tolerances.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 21:02:15 2014 No.698963 >>698947 Haha, I guess people use them for that. Used it to weigh chemicals. Its actually quite accurate, you just need to calibrate it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 20:18:38 2014 No.700551 >>698569 neat, thank you

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 09:26:08 2014 No.700763 >>698963 >quite accurate >measures to two decimals

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