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Okay, something's wrong with either the paint itself or the way I'm prepping it or something.

All I've succeeded in doing is making my wall sticky.

>> No.465421
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465421

And don't tell me I didn't mix it well enough.

>> No.465423
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And here's the paint.

I've painted many things before, and this stuff is absurdly sticky and oily, and doesn't cover shit. So maybe I got a bad can?

I'm at a loss here, help me /diy/

>> No.465442

pls

>> No.465443

>>465423
have you painted large areas with oil-based paint before? it's not uncommon for it to be sticky upwards of 6 hours of application depending on the humidity

>> No.465444

>>465420
how long have you been waiting? oil based can take up to a week to fully set indoors

>> No.465446

>>465444
>>465443
i don't have a problem with it being sticky; my issue is... well, just look at it. It's completely see-through.

>> No.465447

>>465446
It shouldn't take multiple coats to even see the color of the paint I'm using. That's what my problem is.

>> No.465448

>>465446
>>465447
oh... now i see the problem, you said you mixed it... but did you really? if you used a spoon or stick its not going to work, you need to used a mixing head on a drill or similar because the oil floats on top.

failing that i'd say its a bad mix, if you had it color matched in store theres a good chance they fucked it up some how.

>> No.465449

>>465448
okay, yeah, all I had to mix it with was a long wooden dowel. That's probably the issue.

>> No.465452

How did you prep the wall? Why did you decide to use oil paint to begin with? Are you having to cover oil that's already on there?

>> No.465466

>>465452
looks like OP didn't primer either. was this going over latex or oil paint?

also, what was the price range of your paint?

>> No.465497

>>465444
I call BS on that.

>> No.465498

>>465446
>see through

I'm assuming you mean that you can still see the old color through the new paint. Try painting another layer.

>> No.465503

>>465452
I washed, sanded, and wiped it. My maintenance guy gave me the paint, without explaining that I evidently need to power-mix it.

>>465466
>>465498
I didn't prime because the color that's already there is so light. I shouldn't have to put on multiple coats to even see the color of the paint I'm using.

>> No.465536

>>465421
I can tell by the paint in the tray that the paint was either sitting in the can for years and wasnt stirred prior to use, or you got faulty paint.
or both.

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>>465421

Like someone else said, this image is pretty telling.

No household paint should be translucent like that except at incredibly small thicknesses; far less than would appear by simply pouring it into a tray. Either that paint is bad or not mixed thoroughly enough. It looks it should have been really obvious even to a total novice if it wasn't mixed well; I'm guessing heavy streaks would appear if half the paint looked like that and the other half looked solid.

Try scraping the bottom with your stick and see if you can get any streaks to appear in the paint. If you can, mix it better. If you can't, your paint is fucked.

>> No.465787

>>465536
>>465541

Thanks, i only got one can of it, and it's already almost half gone from the op pic, so now it's probably hopelessly screwed since there's so much oil taken out.

And yes, I'm a novice in that I've never used oil before, I had no idea it'd require a goddamn powermixer.

Im just going to go with latex paint.

>> No.465789

>>465787
read the can? fuck

>> No.465790

That's where you kind of fucked yourself...its going to require stripping what you have on there. Putting latex on top of oil will peel right off.

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>>465790
uh

fuck

just put the first coat on

at least it's only one wall, but still.
what, ah, should I do

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>>465890
this is what I'm using now

>> No.465903

>>465890
The latex is already pretty damn dry, and although it was just a little slippery when I rolled it on, it seems to be holding well.

>>465790
when you say it'll peel off, do you mean on the order of days, weeks, or years? I only put on one pretty sparse coat of the oil yesterday.

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>>465903
10/10 for fucking up so spectacularly OP, latex will stick fine if left undisturbed, but the moment you touch it with anything(say the blunt end of a chair) its going to split and peel away. take a spatula to remove the latex once its dried and sand back to the original surface, or just leave it until it fucks itself. you can then re-paint.

>> No.465919

>>465914
okay, thanks, I appreciate it.
yeah, I'm surprised how much I fucked it up, I'm usually quite good with painting. fucking oil, I guess.

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465920

>putting latex over oil
>while the oil isn't even fully dried yet

Oh my.

>> No.465935

>>465920
I had a massive fan going full blast at the wall for around 24 hours

>> No.465981

>>465935
You need to put the fan facing away from the wall to suck out the moisture.

>> No.466003

>>465981
Well i'm just the brightest

>> No.466030

>>465981
I lol'd.

>>466003
It has to be a joke.

>> No.466032

What the other guy said. It'll sit on the wall fine.. but if it gets bumped hard enough that shit will peel off in chunks. It's a pain in the ass.

Oil paint is not really used indoors anymore.. the only time I have ever used it was to paint some furniture that was stained, something that already had an oil coating and maybe on trim (even then, rarely). It's just a much bigger hassle to use though it is very durable.

For future reference, never use oil unless you have to. lol

Anyway in order to fix this just let that oil shit dry, take a 200 grit or so sandpaper and sand it well... then get an acrylic based primer and paint it and then take your latex paint on top of that. That's how I'd fix it anyway.

Keep us updated on this lol

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>>465787

You shouldn't "need" a power mixer. Its easier, but by no means a requirement.

The problem is that you didn't buy paint. You bought paint BASE. Paint bases are incomplete; they're meant to have colorant added. (Look at the note on the can in the bottom right of >>465423.)

Worse, you bought deep base, which is designed for dark pigments. They're meant to have a lot of pigment added, and, as such, have little to no titanium dioxide, a white solid that helps give light paint its hiding power. Deep bases, made for dark tones, have little or none, because this would make it very difficult to add enough pigment to achieve the desired color. As a result, deep-tone paint base will dry almost transparent if no colorant is added.

Which is exactly what happened.