/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.368669]

Dear DIY.
So I have decided it is time to construct for myself a super secret underground hideout. I have never built anything before save for a tree fort and homemade snowboard terrain. I have a 500-1000$ budget. Wat do?

The plan right meow is to dig a rectangular hole 11ft deep 16x20, line the walls with 2x4s and plank the roof, then put a tarp over. Gravel the bottom, add stairs and a trap door, then cover with dirt and grass again. Anything I'm missing?

[Anonymous No.368672]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_earth_pressure

[Anonymous No.368675]

I'd like to know more about this as well.

[Anonymous No.368676]

Sounds like you're building a water pit.

[Anonymous No.368677]

>>368672
I'm terrible at math but what I get from reading this is that after it settle theres inward pressure that can cause the walls to collapse in?

[Anonymous No.368679]

>>368676
Also I'm a good 30 ft above the water table, and the tarp will (hoipefully) divirt any water flow away from le structure.

[Kero the Rogue !nnARqPZGgM No.368681]

>>368669
Here you go OP

[Anonymous No.368682]

>>368681
saw this shit on google. Didnt help

[Anonymous No.368684]

>>368669
>pic

The source of that pic is from here, fyi,

>Shipping Container As An Underground Shelter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo

Notice he caps it with cement, and says in the vid that the surrounding ground is rock.

>Final attempt to record building of an underground shelter using a 20 ft. shipping container. For those wondering why I didn't simply pile dirt over it without pouring a concrete cap first..... These containers are mostly sheet metal. Heavy duty as it is, the roof and sides will push inwards from the weight. Eventually the metal will rust through and you'll be buried alive. My way will insure it is still there a few hundred years from now. Problem is, you'd better keep an eye on your sump pump. If it goes bad or loses power, you'll go in one day and find it the whole thing flooded. A surface alarm letting you know the water level is above where it should be isn't a bad idea. Putting the sump pump on a UPS is also a good thing.

[Anonymous No.368685]

>>368684
sweet thx! Watching it meow, is helping lots :)

[Anonymous No.368686]

>>368672
I thought i had an infographic that describes this, but i can't seem to find it. Anybody know which one i mean?

[Kero the Rogue !nnARqPZGgM No.368688]

>>368686
Thought I had it as well, guess not.

[Anonymous No.368697]

[Kero the Rogue !nnARqPZGgM No.368698]

>>368697
that's to put in your basement.

[Anonymous No.368699]

>>368669
stop spelling out 'meow', it was funny on supertroopers when people didnt know what they said but fucking spelling it out makes you look like a 12 year old faggot,.

[Anonymous No.368700]

>>368698
implying OP ever left his mothers?

Really, OP, we need more information about where you live before we can give real advice. Every area is different. Ground water, soil composition, and a million other things can effect what you can safely do.

[Anonymous No.368705]

>>368699
>it was funny on supertroopers
It was never funny.

[Anonymous No.368708]

If you have some low ground (below the floor) nearby you can trench out and put a pipe in to drain water.

[Anonymous No.368710]

>>368686
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_earth_pressure

[Anonymous No.368724]

[Anonymous No.368726]

>>368710
This isnt the one i meant - i had found one that was in color. Still, it helps - thanks!

[Anonymous No.369135]

>>368699
>>368705
I hate to rain on your parade, but it is HIS computer and keyboard.

[Anonymous No.369166]

>using le
>right meow

Go back to reddit

[Guy with 9 bikes No.369167]

>>368705
>It was never funny.
Supertroopers was never funny.

[Kero the Rogue !nnARqPZGgM No.369172]

>>368700
you have a point there

[Anonymous No.369178]

>>369172
You are adding little to nothing to this conversation.
Stop fucking tripfagging.

[Anonymous No.369181]

>>368679
>le structure

This right here is enough to show me that you have not the slightest fucking clue on how to build something that wont collapse on you.

But if you decide to go through with your plan anyways, the only thing missing would be a will and/or suicide note.

[Anonymous No.369189]

Great thread on loli rape dens folks.

[Anonymous No.369197]

>>368681
fuck the shitposter, im gonna go build me a hogan.

[Anonymous No.369198]

>>369166
This so fucking hard. I was going to help this little faggot as someone who has actual construction experience, but there's no way I'm wasting my time on some retard who does shit like that.

Yes, your posts affect how you are perceived. And on a board where you're actually asking for help, acting like a dipshit is going to make all of the adults with actual knowledge that you want less likely to help you.

[Radiofag No.369226]

>>368669
>Anything I'm missing?
Your coffin?

Use concrete, add a sump pump, or you're going to have a swimming pool when it rains.

Also, the soil composition dictates a lot.

[Anonymous No.369227]

>meow
>le structure
i really hope OP gets buried alive

[Pinzfag. No.369280]

Might want to consider just burying a septic tank, I am thinking about using one for underground long term food storage with shtf supplies, easily concealable manhatch, also already designed structurally to be buried, water tight etc.

[Anonymous No.369282]

>>369280
Whats the cost of one of them compared to a similar sized shipping crate?

[Pinzfag. No.369286]

>>369282
Check at local distributors, call around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZEbOyrtBqQ
You cant really bury shipping containers without shoring them up with cinderblocks, concrete and at that point you might as well just built a traditional root cellar.

[Anonymous No.369340]

>>369172
Not really.

>>368700
When you don't know the soil type or environment you always pretend it is in a swamp. That way you know you're dealing with lots of lateral pressure and lots of water problems. If you make your design to get around those thing then it will be safe anywhere. lol

[Anonymous No.369342]

>>369280
Seconding this. There are also corrugated metal culverts this can be done with that are pretty swank. They can be built on any scale and can hold a lot of soil on top.

Here's a pic of a really big one.

This link will give you a ton of info on the subject,

http://www.radshelters4u.com/index3.htm

Anyone else that frequents these types of threads, copy that link above so you can paste it later if another thread crops up.

[Anonymous No.369344]

>>369342
Another pic of a smaller one.

[Anonymous No.369373]

>>369342
>stands directly under load
>massive load

What a complete pillock. Rule #1 of any rigging/lifting, NEVER go under the load.

Fuck.

[Anonymous No.369375]

>>369373
size of ball to brain ratio

500:1

[Anonymous No.369402]

>>369401

[Anonymous No.369401]

If/when I build a bunker Im thinking of using concrete pipe either layed in the traditional direction or maybe placed vertically with concrete caps at each end.

[Anonymous No.369404]

>>369402

[Anonymous No.369407]

>>369402
>>369404
Want.

[Anonymous No.369475]

>>369402
>>369404

Requires some good ventilation, unless you want a peaceful death.

[Anonymous No.369477]

>>369402
what a delightful black mold sanctuary.

[Anonymous No.369511]

>>369477
couldn't you use dessicants and dehumidifier to keep room dry and mold free?

[Anonymous No.369548]

>>368669
Download the pdf ebook for "The $50 and Up Underground House Book".

[Pinzfag. No.369567]

>>369511
All you really need is good ventilation and to keep the air temp stable.

[Anonymous No.369625]

>>368681
Jesus.

So, that's what you build after taking out a large life insurance policy on your children?

[Anonymous No.369627]

>>369373
Someone has to catch it!

But, yeah, I totally agree with you. I've seen some bad shit happen that would have killed anyone had they been stupid enough to be under when it happened.

[Anonymous No.369631]

>>369625
that's what people built for their kids back before life insurance and the associated perpetual mass terror indoctrination existed

[Anonymous No.369726]

>>368681
Oh fuck, I had this (or an incredibly similar) book when I was atalented /diy/er The ideas and designs were fantastic, filling my head with things I would do... eventualy. In reality, everything was so far from practical. My nostalgia is off the charts right now.

[Anonymous No.369808]

>>368699
>>368705
>>369166
>>369198
>>369227

[Anonymous No.369811]

>>369631
It is a death trap. It's even worse than a tree house.

[Pinzfag. No.369813]

>>369811
Stay pleb

[Anonymous No.369815]

>>369404

...Is that toilet supposed to double as a drain for that shower head?

[Anonymous No.369818]

>>369813
Actually, getting your kids killed because you are ignorant of the dangers is plebeian behavior.

[Anonymous No.369819]

>>369808
I hate you.

>>369625
>>369811
Why do you think so, there is very little soil atop the structure.

[Anonymous No.369858]

>>368669
>build super-seekrit underground hideout!
>get on every 3-letter agencys' watch list
>be tracked everywhere you go
You gonna go cash only and put in a 3-month supply of food and water while you're at it? Be sure to send us a postcard from Gitmo.
>inb4 rape room

[Anonymous No.369859]

>>369818

There is so little soil on top of there that it's negligible compared to the amount on the back/sides. If your framework is put together properly and you build it on a small hillside like in the picture, in such a way that minimises the pressure on the walls, I don't see the problem. It all comes down to execution.

[Anonymous No.369862]

>>369818

or freestanding

[Pinzfag. No.369875]

>>369818
>cannot build a safe wooden structure.
stay pleb

[Anonymous No.369888]

>>369858
Yeah like that would happen. Unless purchasing large quantities of cement places you on a watch list.

[Anonymous No.369934]

>>369858
>Gentlemen, we have another tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist building a bomb shelter in his yard, get a 10 man crew out on surveillance now.

>but sir, we're busy monitoring the african american population that has never purchased watermelon or fried chicken!

[Anonymous No.369960]

here is something I'm working on /diy/

it's a 3 by 3 m. or 10 by 10 ft bunker/small home

[Anonymous No.369961]

[Anonymous No.369965]

and yes I know, electric cables and internet cables don't mix in well, some thiker cables will be needed

[Anonymous No.369986]

>>369960
>>369961
>>369965

Not seeing a kitchen or a bathroom. You do have plans of adding other rooms/sections for those, right?

[Anonymous No.370045]

>>369986
Naw I'll live off the land, y'know order takeaway and shit in the soda-cups, and I've 2 economy sized roll-ons i got from my grandma.

[anonanon No.370047]

A clue? I think you are missing a clue.

[Anonymous No.370051]

>this thread
>implying any of them would be suitable fallout protection

Do you guys even know what fallout is? A dug-in bunker like this is useless against radioactive particles in your air. Unless you build a NBC-capable air filtration system, you'll be sitting in a death box.

[Anonymous No.370054]

>>370051
>super secret underground hideout

Doesn't sound like a fallout shelter to me.

[Anonymous No.370058]

why do you bury a container? It's easier and safer

[Anonymous No.370204]

What about this? http://youtu.be/A3EAJex1RVo
Faget

[Anonymous No.370207]

>>369858

>We don't care about shelter construction, only weapons procurement and ingredients for incendiaries.

[Anonymous No.370223]

>>370204
>Faget
at least spell it correctly, faggot.

[Anonymous No.370225]

>>370051
Yeah, this is more "secret hideout/place to rape children" than "fallout shelter, to my eye.

[Anonymous No.370231]

>missing anything
yeah .. water infiltration.

also, while it's possible with an endless amount of methamphetamine and no other real purpose .. that one could dig such a hole by hand, you'd still need a place to dispose of the dirt .. since a "secret" hideout underground right next to a huge pile of dirt is .. well .. less than ideal.

tl;dr .. get a ISO container, a backhoe, weld in some reinforcements for the roof, waterproof, and backfill with concrete. Will cost more in the neighborhood of $5k .. read any survivalist site for the how-to.

[Pinzfag. No.370246]

>>370225
>implying the rape of children

[Anonymous No.370254]

>find a bus for sale
>do something about the windows
.bury it
>use the rooftop emergency exit for entry/exit
>comes with seats

[Pinzfag. No.370264]

>>370254
When you put something underground you want it to be sealed, an old bus is going to leak like a motherfucker. The water table can come as close as 5 feet underground during certain parts of the year.

[Anonymous No.370265]

>>370264

Not that poster, but some dude did this. Built a doomsday shelter out of like 30 school buses.

Supposedly you can buy an old bus for around 600 bucks from a junkyard.

[Pinzfag. No.370267]

>>370265
Really depends on your area, nevada desert? sure!

[Anonymous No.370277]

>>370254
>>370264
>>370265
The "Ark Two Shelter" is the school bus bunker with tons of school buses. It is in Canada. They used the school buses as the inner form to pour concrete shells over top of them. I think it's the largest private fallout shelter in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Two_Shelter

>Ark Two Nuclear Shelter Tour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2L17BMJmo0

[Anonymous No.370278]

>>370265

I know what you're talking about. He lives in an area where that's ok, the water table rising isn't a major concern.

That being said, watch a few interviews with the guy. In one he comes off as one hell of a creeper, basically saying "THIS IS MY DOOMSDAY SHELTER. I WILL ONLY ALLOW CHILDREN INSIDE, I WILL BE THE ONLY ADULT AND I WILL BE IN CHARGE." Kind of came off as a pedo or something with how he answered some of the questions, and the interviewers knew it. Rather than let him dig deeper they let the issue pass on by.

[Anonymous No.370280]

>>370277

Oh hey, would you look at that. Even his blueprints give that kind of feel.

[Anonymous No.370281]

>>370280

lel

[Anonymous No.370288]

>>370278
There was a guy on /tv/ last week/weekend answering questions about a reality TV show he was asked to be on which he turned down (the micronationalist guy.)

It seems they wanted him to do a great deal of lying and misrepresent him so he seem more "crazy". The guy that was in charge of getting him to do the tv show actually said he really respected the people that took their dignity over money, or similar wording as that.

I can only imagine how misrepresented all these people these shows have on. I'm not defending anyone, but there is a definite air of doubt for anything.

[Anonymous No.370291]

>>370280
I don't see anything wrong with that pic. The adult day room is dead center of all the rooms. The adult men and women's rooms divide the teens and kids rooms. It is a standard setup. The adults act as a buffer between the two different sexes of kids so the kids wold have to sneak past both adult rooms to get to the other sex's rooms. It's actually a good setup to prevent any hanky panky since all adults would be able to watch everyone.

[Anonymous No.370311]

>2013
>not on bunkerfags level

[Pinzfag. No.370329]

>>370277
Now that, is pretty legit...

[Anonymous No.370339]

>>368685

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Anonymous No.370349]

>>370291
Men's dorm within silent night-time grabbing distance of young girls, immersion tank at the back for aversion drowning torture so they don't tell.

[Anonymous No.370352]

>>370349
See, this is the problem with 4chan. You're all freaks.

[Anonymous No.370402]

>>368669
YOU CUT THAT MEOW SHIT OUT RIGHT NOW! YOU'RE TOO OLD FOR THAT BULLSHIT!
jk...Good luck with the bunker my friend :]

[Anonymous No.371386]

>>370280
The guy that built that has been working his entire life on it. He meant it as a means of jump-starting civilization in the immediate surrounding areas, and gives walk-thru's to the locals. Being an intended jump-start he'd make a point of filtering out those that wouldn't last enough to rightly put toward the future. I find it funny that a guy with a low-down shelter kept private that wouldn't include others is a fucking selfish prick nutcase, and a guy with a well-known shelter open to the public that would include as many as possible is a pedo.

[Big Profits Small Spaces No.371518]

Sounds like you are digging a well.

If you aren't trollen you need to add several thousand dollars to your budget as well as copious amounts of concrete, rebar and heavy duty asphalt sealant.

[Anonymous No.371534]

>>371386
People who do not act perfectly normal are always vilified by the majority.

The guy with the buses has a good system for it though. You pay by working on the project and improving it. Kind of like the amount of work you'd do every so often if you were in the national guard or your last years of enlistment in the military. Like working one weekend x amount of times.

That alone really cuts out a lot of useless people.

[Anonymous No.371596]

>>369808
silly you, thats not a duck

[noko No.371962]

Inspired by this thread, I started to desing my own fallout shelter. Lots of it is still not done, but room layout is pretty much done. Feel free to tell what to change or improve.

Also, the toilet will be dry, but it will have 2 separate doors, which will not be open at the same time, also exiting air will be directed between these 2 doors.

[Anonymous No.371963]

>>371962
Forgot to mention, it's designed for 4-6 people to live for 6 to 12 months.

[Anonymous No.372012]

>>371962

looks pretty nice but the generator will produce a small amount of "co2"... i would give him a separated room...

[Anonymous No.372013]

>>372012
lol forget that... just discovered the door....

sorry

[Anonymous No.372049]

>>372012
If by "small amount" you mean "fatal amount" you are correct.

[Anonymous No.372060]

>>372049
>>372012

As I said, the plans are not finished. The generator exhausts will be led outside the shelter/bunker.

[Pinzfag. No.372074]

>>372060
If you lead all the exhausts and engine case vents to outside you will be fine.
Also, if you actually think you are going to survive nuclear fallout in that thing you got another thing commin.

[Anonymous No.372284]

>>371962
>implying this is any sort of a plan
Anyone can just draw some boxes and say this is where we will sleep and here is where we will shit etc.
The plans are all about construction, dealing with the drainage problem, dealing with the weight of soil etc.
Sorry for being so critical, but don't waste your time on such an arbitrary task.

[Anonymous No.372288]

>>372074
Surviving nuclear fallout is actually pretty easy, if you have proper air filtration. The wait isn't all that long until the dust has settled enough to get out of dodge if you need or plan to.

[Anonymous No.372355]

>>372284
I can see your point, I propably should have be more clear about myself. The whole sturcture will be under ground, on a soil which is mostly gravel, so the sinking of it etc should not be hugge problem. At the scale of this drawing, those outer walls will be 20cm thick steel reinforced concrete, and those parts that come bit out of the building, will be even lower under ground. Also, the area would have loads of ground water.

Here's a bit updated version.

[Anonymous No.372433]

>>372355
Tiny bit better but still, 20cm thick steel reinforced concrete is not worth the cost, really really impractical.
There is also the, it will fill with water problem. And the walls still could collapse, what will support it and stop it gradually sinking in the soil causing the concrete to split.