/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.288205]

Listen /diy/ unfortunately due to circumstances beyond my control I will end up living in the woods, an info thread about surviving in the woods (making tools, finding food ect). So if you got any you would like to share please do.

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one of my favorite "picture paints a thousand words" pics

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[Anonymous No.288248]

This old chestnut

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[Anonymous No.288252]

>>288239
>>288242
>>288243
Lovely stuff; cheers.
Why is Gerber frowned upon? (I have a Leatherman, just curious...)

[Anonymous No.288254]

>>288250
>reflect light from the shiny blade
>it's coated black

[Anonymous No.288255]

>>288252
From videos I've seen of gerber producs, they seem flimsy compared to leathermans.

[Anonymous No.288264]

>>288254

Yeah, that stuff's all grain of salt. That benchmade ad is pretty much complete bullshit.

>>288252
>>288255
I'm pretty sure the army uses a gerber multitool? Their fixed blades all seem alright, the tools have crap ergonomics and I dunno what else is wrong with them.

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>>288251
....if I had onions, rice, garlic, butter, salt, pepper, milk, I wouldnt need to eat wild plants...

[Anonymous No.288273]

>>288252

They produce a lot of shit and that earns them a bad reputation. Some of their stuff is just fine, though. Their Evo multitool is just as reliable and sturdy as a Leatherman Wave.

[Anonymous No.288294]

Hey OP

Why are you living in the woods?

Signed, Anon.

[Anonymous No.288297]

>>288294
I will be if I do not find a place to crash by tomorrow night, lost my apt cause the business went out of business and when I tried finding new work I was unable to find another job, then I lost my apt. As of late I have been couch hopping but now with no next couch lined up and my time run out here I have run out of options (and yes my friend was a dick and gave me a time limit of how long I could stay)

[Anonymous No.288298]

>>288297
Then you should definitely be homeless in the city, it's way easier to live off human wastefulness than nature's wastefulness. Humans are dumb about it.

[Anonymous No.288535]

Jugs for water. Larger water storage - Walmart has a nice 7 gallon blue water tote with spigot. Bleach for cleaning and a few drops will fix most water. blankets, cot, stay dry. Get a tarp and rope.

If in bear country you have to hang your food and away from campsite.

[Anonymous No.289324]

http://www.couchsurfing.org/

Don't give up yet.

[Anonymous No.290174]

If you have internet and power I'm pretty sure you will survive.

[Anonymous No.290213]

I'm a wilderness survival instructor so ask me anything op.
Urban survival included.

[Anonymous No.290217]

>>288255
>>288264
I have this gerber. Other than the rubber grippy bits coming off, and 1 non-gerber made tool (specialist scissors) which has some rust, its lasted me 3 years perfectly with heavy use and no maintenence whatsoever. I noticed some rust spots forming the other day and wiped them off with an oily rag... ive only ever cleaned it in WATER before, and not bothered to dry it, so i think they're great tools.

BUT if your living in the woods, i do suggest this, but i also am sure you'll need a string saw and a proper survival/archery/whatever you wanna call it knife.

[Anonymous No.290811]

>>288297
Can I ask your rough location so I can help with research on solutions and advice?

Btw was in similar situation 3 months ago... Moved into tent in (urban) woodland. Have to agree it's easier in a town/city...

[Anonymous No.290815]

>>290811
Oh, and the only knife I had was this

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[Anonymous No.290824]

Sometimes I envy you 'murricans. Legally I cant so much as carry a pocket knife unless I can prove without doubt I'm using it for work-related purposes.

[Anonymous No.290855]

Get yourself a scandinavian puukko. Will ease all your carving works and light to medium woodworking to pure pleasure. Much more better than trying to use some folding knife or bevel ground blade. And carbon steel is better than stainless, easier to sharpen and allaround better. Just make sure you learn how to sharpen a scandi grind so that you do not mess it up and make it a beveled grind

Scandi grind ftw

[Anonymous No.290860]

>>290855
0/10, would not use.

[Anonymous No.290861]

>>290217
>>288264
>>288252

I've been carrying a Gerber 600 (pic related) every day for about 13 years. I couldn't ask for a better tool. I prefer it over Leatherman tools because it's quicker and easier to open one-handed (the plier jaws slide forward instead of flipping the handles over).

That's the same model that's issued by the US military, NSN 5110-01-394-6249.

Some of the new low-end or Gerber tools do look kind of flimsy. I think they're paying too much attention to form and not enough to function. But if you stick to their professional-oriented tools I don't think you can go wrong.

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>>290824
Rly? Where?

>>288250
Girdle tree = kill tree.
Also, attack bear with knife = girdle person

[Anonymous No.290878]

>>290871
Dunno about that guy who made the post but I myself live in finland. Legal knifes to carry, none. I have had the police to confiscate my spyderco bug (yes the smallest of them all) when I opened a package with it infront of the post office after retrieving a parcel. Some guy actually fetched the police to come and confiscate my spyderco bug from opening a package infront of the post. And it was not liek waving it around opening package, it was just take it ouit of pocket and put it back in quickly.

[Anonymous No.290886]

>>290878
Wow, that stinks. I had a little 2" long Case knife confiscated at the airport one time on the way to Savonlinna. (I'm American - used to work for Ahlstrom).

[Anonymous No.290889]

>>290871
>>290878
I'm from Ireland, and its illegal to carry any knife or tool that could be used as a weapon or for breaking and entry (screwdriver etc.)

[Anonymous No.290890]

>>288252
I dunno really, well gerber has saddly had more finishing touch errors on the products I have purchaced, but they are still useable. Gerber also has a bad habbit of taking some of their product, slapping on different handle scales and selling it at a higher price (suspension, ripstop, bear grylls tool) and as far as the information goes, the only thing that has changed are the handle scales. Or at least what I have found out.

I myself like both gerber and leatherman, with gerber experimenting more on desings and styles, and with Leatherman staying in the old format trough the ages. These are both good and bad for both companies.

In my experiences I have noticed that leatherman has better quality controll when compared to gerber, but then on the other hand I liek the blades on gerbers more than the ones on leathermen. For instance the leatherman crucials blade holds a decent edge and sharpens up nicely and with easy, but leatherman wingmans blade, especially the straight blade part, I have never gotten it really sharp. Just somewhat sharp.

Leathermans flat philips is better than gerbers on most modles, because gerbers own has a rounded tip, but the leathermans have a sharper tip, making it easier to use it on smaller screws.

[Anonymous No.290891]

>>290890
But on the bottomline both companeis multitools stand, at least in my opinnion, on equal grounds. They work good for the price you are paying, they get the job done, and none have broken on me so far. I'd recomend both, just find the model that mostly suits your needs and go with it. If you find products with equal tools but one of the products is a lot cheaper, go with the cheaper one. If you are buying from these two companies chances are they will not break on you.

I know there are many stories on gerber tools breaking down during use but that has yet to happen to me and I have abused my multitools on rusted bolts and other stuff pretty heavily. Both my leatherman and gerber ave had a few rust spots on them, but no seriosu rust issues going on. But then again I usually clean rust off with oil right away if I see some and keep my mot used tools well oiled

[Anonymous No.290906]

>>290878
>>290889
You have to be shifting me,
I thought the UK had the strictest laws going,
Which was the reason given for Spyderco making the 'UK Knife', a legal carry knife for the UK market. (pic related)
The rules, beyond good reason such as tool for work/survival are-
Non-locking blade
Blade edge under 2.5 inches
Non-fixed blade

I carry the ladybug anyway, which has the same blade length but it locks and has a serrated edge,
Which are generally frowned upon by cops as they are often classified as a 'combat knife'.

I know of many people who carry multitools etc with bigger blades on their belt with no bother from the law as long as they can justify regular or recent use.
Police can use their discretion and aggravating factors usually play a part if an arrest is made.
Cops have searched me and looked it over before with no problems, once I got asked why I carry it and I said for cutting the tags off mailsacks at work since no scissors are provided (true story)

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>>290906

>>290878 here
I wish I was

[Anonymous No.290920]

>>290906
Seriously you should see the law here (Ireland)
It basically says its a criminal offence to carry in public any item that can be used to injure or incapacitate a person, and any item that can be used in a burglary. That covers pretty much every object known to mankind, and burden of proof for legitimate use falls on you, not on the cops.

[Anonymous No.290922]

>>>/ck/3868141
>>>/ck/3868017
http://fuuka.warosu.org/ck/thread/S3864630
These might be helpful.

[Anonymous No.290979]

here in Germany, it is also illegal to carry folding knives that are not tools (?) and can be opened with one hand. I don't know the law concerning this exactly, but I don't think they made a distinction between assisted opening and the ability to open the knife with one hand.

When the newer Leathermans with the blades on the outside came out, multitool enthusiasts were concerned about the legal status of e.g. the Wave and Surge because technically, they can be opened with one hand.
So someone mailed the agency dealing with these matters only to get someone who absolutely has no clue to answer that "rescue tools" are legal to carry around. The person never got a real definite answer on this matter, even after posting pictures of the Wave and stuff.
Anyway, I take my Leatherman SuperTool 300 with me all the time. It's not like it can be opened easily with one hand (although the blade may be longer than those of the evil one-handers, lol).

Pic related: it's what google returned for "rescue tool". Sure like to carry that around all day.
Also captcha: nuthok concrete

[Anonymous No.290985]

>>290979
I always understood germanys knife laws as you can have a locking blade or a one hand opening blade, but not the two in the same knife, for instance taht woukd make spydercos one hand opening slipjoints legal (UK market ones) and for instance kershaws wildcat ridge legal to carry

[Anonymous No.290994]

>>290985
yes, you are right. I have read up on that just now.
But actually, it is quite stupid to use a non-lockable knife for heavier-duty stuff. Oh well, I just don't comprehend legislation...

>>290889
Oh great, what about craftsmen? Or other people who have to use tools on a daily basis?

[Anonymous No.291011]

>>290994
Of course its legal to carry tools for professional purposes, but you are supposed to carry them in a toolbox or bag, not on your body. If the cops search you, you have to find some way to prove you are working or on the way to/from work, like get your boss on the phone or something.

[Anonymous No.291016]

>>291011
Ah I see. Thanks. Still would be silly to carry one or two tools that you constantly need in an (oversized) extra box. argh

[Anonymous No.291018]

>>290979
>rescue tool
>pic

Yeah, those are used to open up metal on vehicles to recuse people trapped in crushed vehicles. They are often called, "The Jaws of Life" and are hydraulic,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_rescue_tools

[Anonymous No.291023]

I forgot to add, n the UK, a notch or thumbhole is legal, but assisted opening is not. For instance, a spring loaded switchblade

[Anonymous No.291083]

>>291018
Yep, those things are awesome. With the pic I wanted to point out how the term "rescue tool" that the officer used is rather misleading, although he probably meant something more in the line of what is pictured here. Still, this is completely unlike a multitool, so the legal status is not officially resolved (yet), although one could pay 400€ for an agency to assert the legality once and for all.

Another problem is that in Germany it is quite common to use English terms for all kinds of stuff, like the "rescue tool" in this example, sometimes completely muddling the original meaning or being obviously unnecessary because we also have terms to describe what is expressed in occasionally hilariously maimed and mutilated English, but I went far off topic now.

[Anonymous No.291431]

Whatever needs to be in this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bug-out_bag

...can be found here...

http://www.ebay.com/vlp/sporting-goods/camping-hiking/16034?_trksid=p2049127.m2029.c382

...and knowing things mentioned here doesn't hurt either:

http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/FM21-76_SurvivalManual.pdf

Good luck!

[Anonymous No.293077]

>>288264
>>290861

The US Army-issue argument is cute. You do realize that the Army contracts the lowest possible bidder, right? Meaning they issue the cheapest of the cheap. The Gerber they issue us downrange is hella cheap. Leathermans are bro-tier.

[Anonymous No.293998]

can you get a .22 gun and plenty of bullets?
if no, learn how to make bows (theyll break eventually) and practise target shooting. also, practise sneaking in forests if you plan on hunting

[Anonymous No.294038]

Anyone got any good info on how to diy char cloth?

[Cheshire Cat !!GnpRNMAnL6W No.294053]

>>290824
Really?
I have 3-4 knives on/around me a day that I use.

>>290906
>non locking
>non fixed

Why would I used a knife? I'd be better off with a sharp rock or something.

>>293077
Nu uhh!
The gubmint gives all it's employees the best
>mfw we went to the moon on lowest bidder
>mfw my work truck is about to kill me or someone else because the county is cheap.

>>293998
I don't think OP is going full on innawoods, and since he isn't, it might not be worth the risk to carry around a .22 when trespassing.

[Anonymous No.294059]

>>293077
the cheaper that can provide certain specs, or the only one willing to make it under certain specs