YOUR MOST DISAPPOINTING TOOL

[Anonymous No.2865174]

Everybody has at least one tool they thought would be a lifesaver, yet it sits on the shelf mocking you year after year...

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2865180]

>>2865174
Because I know everybody wants to hear my opinion…

First, let’s talk about the compound action pliers that were all over the place a couple years ago, seems like a good idea like bolt cutters. However, every single pair has more resistance which means the added leverage is cut down slightly already. And then you need to open your grip much wider for a given jaw opening, so especially on the cutter when you want to chop something large, it’s hard to get a real good grip when your hand is open so much wider than the optimal grip.

The double x pliers, meh. I grab my Knipex long guys, the double X ones are heavy and larger and awkward to use in the tightest spots where you would want them to excel. Go to the medical supply store for stuff that will fit in tight spots.

And then there’s the knockoff Raptor pliers and the Channies, there’s a real specific size of fastener that fit well in those jaws, and you’re better off trying not to mangle those 1/2”-5/8” nuts in the first place.

I’m of the opinion that most of these pliers are unnecessary if you get normal pliers with properly heat treated steels. If you get quality cutters, long nose pliers, or Cobra type pliers with good steel that are sharp, then the goofy designs and double pivots don’t add anything.

[Anonymous No.2865181]

>>2865174
>YOUR MOST DISAPPOINTING TOOL
My penis

[Anonymous No.2865185]

>>2865174
I've got the newer brushless version of that rotary tool and it's great. Used it on a couple gunsmithing projects.

Honestly, I don't think I have any useless tools. If you do, you should just sell them. Taking up space is also taking up time, money, and thought. Life is better without extra things.

[Anonymous No.2865194]

>most disappointing
They sell "drill press" mounts for regular corded drills for about $20, it's an awful piece of shit. You'd think you'd at least get a good angle of drilling if nothing else, but it's so flimsy that it's not even good for that.
>>2865174
I got the Parkside ultra-cheap version of that tool and it's great. Obviously it's pretty weak, but even ~100W is enough for a lot of stuff. Diamond bits, deburring, small sanding work, occasional grinding.

[Anonymous No.2865199]

>>2865181
according to my mom, me

[Anonymous No.2865248]

I gave my dad a set of these and he never used them. Now I know why. It's because they're gay.

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2865257]

>>2865248
Craftsman had some fun meme tools the last decade or two at Sears, the bullshit that wives and daughters would buy from a Father’s Day display. Especially under the Mach label.

I bought the Craftsman pass-thru socket set with the universal spline sockets from one of those displays thinking it was a meme but it was like $20 so whatever if it saved my ass once. Then I realized Gearwrench had a long handle flex head ratchet that fit those sockets, and the nano sockets fit in there too, and that combination is actually super useful.

[Anonymous No.2865261]

>>2865174
If you consider a multitool like that useless then you're simply not doing anything interesting.
I use mine all the time.

>>2865180
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2865277]

>>2865174
I fell for the meme.

[Anonymous No.2865285]

>>2865180
>>2865277
Do they make those pistol grip pliers in the extended double jointed style for maximum reach?

I don't own any pistol grip style pliers. Never really saw a need for them. The extended needle nose pliers with the double joints are quite handy grabbing things out of deep inaccessible spots.

I also used them for picking up drip tape out of a 10 acre field that I tore out last spring. Kept me from having to bend over that last 13 inches and helped me save my back slightly. Standard trash pickers wouldn't have worked well because you actually had to grip and pull the shit out of the ground. That was a shitty job fit for illegals...

[Anonymous No.2865343]

>>2865257
That meme pass through spline set was purchased by apex and now sold for $25-30 under crescent. I grabbed one last year and just threw it in the junk drawer as a get out of jail free card when I need it. Used it 5-6 times now, it's proven worth the $25

[Anonymous No.2865350]

[Anonymous No.2865353]

>>2865350
You take that back. That was one of the first tools I bought in high school and I unironically use it more now than ever before. I like using it for pilot holes. It's one less bit I have to change and I feel like I can aim better than with the DUHWALT and also it's a little fun ok? Is fun allowed?

[Anonymous No.2865363]

>>2865174
>YOUR MOST DISAPPOINTING TOOL

[Anonymous No.2865376]

>>2865277
Now that's a ''useful-once-in-a-lifetime'' tool

[Anonymous No.2865381]

>>2865174
My highly experienced (as am I) bro bought one and offered to give it to me since he greatly prefers his Ryobi and never uses his either because he hates it. I turned it down because if it pisses him off I've no use for it.

Finding a tool neither of us want is an accomplishment.

I use various Dremels, pneumatic grinders, a RotoZip with multiple collets and my two beloved 5196

Milwaukee do make a ballsy corded die grinder that's so tough I bought mine used after maintaining a fleet of them (if ya see one missing the collet and/or nut, lower your bid by what those cost plus something for your time).

>>2865343
Those are worth owning for any mechanic though the true reason for spline offerings is splined hardware commonly used on aircraft.

This 11-amp sword of destiny is loved by pipe welders for good reasons. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/5196

[Anonymous No.2865382]

>>2865381
>This 11-amp sword of destiny
i find its little bro to be handier and easier to wield

[Anonymous No.2865385]

>>2865353
I keep my old Millers falls breast drill with build-on level, my braces, planes, hand hacksaw (fresh blades can cut surprisingly quickly), anvil, hammers and OA/OP torch plus of course plenty of common automotive (mostly) hand tools.

All that was dirt cheap and saves me far more money than those items cost because I often buy quality used tools. Estate sales, business liquidations and similar offer great deals (so ignore FOMO).

[Anonymous No.2865386]

>>2865248
Those suck indeed so I cut and bend them to make special tools (and discard the open end).

[Anonymous No.2865387]

>>2865382
Those are nice too but our students were killing them so after those we had died off we upgraded.

[Anonymous No.2865389]

I used to have an electrical buddy who used a Dremel to cut conduit

Yes he was very dumb

[Anonymous No.2865469]

>>2865174
Electric screwdriver. "eeeeeeeeee" What is this for?, a crippled person?

Slip joint pliers. Half weak pliers, half bolt scratcher.

Spring opened pliers. Just why?

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2865471]

>>2865343
I don’t think it was bought by Apex. Remember that Sears era Craftsman never had a factory to make their tools, it was a brand name, so Apex was making them for Craftsman.

I got them 50/50 for the spline drive on whatever dumb application and the pass-thru, and honestly the pass-thru saved me a couple times. Working on this Honda with a 2.4, the motor mount on the top passenger side has one 17mm nut on a super long stud and a deep socket won’t fit. Flex head ratcheting box end would fit, but once I got the handle at an angle where I could clear obstacles, it was so steep that there was no torque and I risked rounding the nut because the wrench head was getting crooked. The extensions for the pass-thru set will create an extra deep socket, add the long handle Gearwrench ratchet and it worked perfect.

Also if you want, Home Depot sells Husky nano impact sockets now, and those actually fit in those Apex pass-thru ratchets.

>>2865277
I got that too with a coupon. I figure one day that tip will help me with a sensor or electrical connection in a dumb spot. The one time that $15 set of pliers saves your ass, it’s worth the price of admission.

>>2865285
Not that I have seen. I don’t even know how you would do it with the double joint, and they would probably be super unbalanced. The new Milwaulee extended pliers are actually quite interesting, it’s a smart design. Also if you want goofy long pliers, check out medical supply places.

[Anonymous No.2865519]

>>2865174
this piece of crap

- marks the vinyl wherever it touches
- acrylic coated siding? it will scrape the coating right off

Only used as a last resort for unhooking now. For swiping, the trimmed hook of a siding scrap works better, without damaging the siding. Also, plastic bicycle tire irons are good for swiping.

[Anonymous No.2865525]

>>2865174
It was cheap as shit so maybe I shouldn't complain but having a fence that's aligned with itself and not warped and also not permanently a degree off does not seem like that big of an ask, especially from a Japanese company.

[Anonymous No.2865540]

>>2865363
>Makes every non-political thread into some political bullshit...
I wonder who is behind this post.

[Anonymous No.2865598]

>>2865174
All of my ryobi tools. What a fool I was

[Anonymous No.2865650]

>>2865598
Is Ryobi really that bad?

[Anonymous No.2865652]

>>2865389
That's called getting paid by the hour. A fucking pipe cutter would be faster.

[Anonymous No.2865671]

>>2865650
If you're just a home DIY guy who needs some tools for some random project every other month? Go for it. They're fine if you just need a decent tool for occasional use and only want one battery brand.

[Anonymous No.2865673]

>>2865540
someone who made the mistake of voting for him in 2016.

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2865674]

>>2865650
No. Everybody who actually owns them says they’re plenty good for DIYers.

[Anonymous No.2865681]

>>2865650
Their gardening stuff is good.
I bought a cheap miter saw from them that was absolute ass. It could only make crooked cuts and eventually stopped working. I went through two drills on my home renovation too

[Anonymous No.2865744]

>>2865174
this circumcision cutter is absolute dogshit at cutting insulation without knicking the conductor. the swivel blade wanders so the cut never lines up and butchers the wire end. bought it to do gayass thermoplastic insulated direct burial uhv aluminum feeder and had a miserable time trying not to break off strands

[Anonymous No.2865981]

>>2865194
this is crap from the factory, but they are really easy to fix

[Anonymous No.2865989]

>>2865194
There’s a useful version of this, it lets you drill straight holes into the ends of beams

[Anonymous No.2866033]

>>2865363
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.2866207]

>>2866033
truth hurts.

[Anonymous No.2866209]

>>2865174
can't really think of anything, worst tools I had were super cheap screwdrivers but I didn't buy them. even really cheap crappy wrenches are good when you need a very special tool as you can grind and cut them to what you need.

I have tools I don't use a lot, and tools I bought but not used yet, but no nothing comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.2866210]

>>2865174
My circular saw. I thought it would be god send when I got it. But I only use it like twice a year

[Anonymous No.2866428]

>>2865174
RotoZip 'saw'.

[Anonymous No.2866439]

>>2865194
you buying a cheap shitty one does not make the product as an idea bad

[Anonymous No.2866455]

>>2866428
If you aren't constantly cutting out utility box opening through drywall, you don't need one.

[Anonymous No.2866459]

>>2866428
I used to drool over those every time I went into home depot but couldn’t justify the expense since I already had a skilsaw.

Glad I didn’t. Spent the dough on booze instead probably.

[Anonymous No.2866476]

>>2865174
>hand sander
pretty awkward to use, better to just use a belt sander

[Anonymous No.2866488]

>>2866476
> belt sander
I remember the first and last time I used a belt sander.
I had just assembled a big entertainment-unit cabinet, but the tenons were a bit proud on the top, and the TV top piece wasn’t sitting flat.

Go out, get belt sander. Load on a 60 grit belt.
Press sander down on the top rails where the tenons were proud, press down hard and turn on sander. It only has one speed: full blast.
Made a 1/4” belt-sander shaped divot in about a second before I realized what was happening.
good times.

[Anonymous No.2866501]

>>2865174
I bought some shitty old ass cement mixer. It worked fine but it didn't mix well due to the shape of the barrel. I would have to add a shitload of water to the cement to get it to start mixing instead of all sticking to the side of the barrel.
Eventually I ripped the motor off it and threw the rest in the bushes, where it will stay forever. I went out and bought a good metal wheelbarrow instead which I use for mixing concrete. It's faster to do by hand than with that piece of crap

[Anonymous No.2866505]

>>2866455
the spiral cutout tool that is commonly referred to as rotozip isn't what anon is referring to I believe. he means the actual rotozip branded zipsaw.

[Anonymous No.2866550]

>>2865194
Got one of these for my father-in-law's tools after he died. I've got a proper drill press so I don't even use this it's been sitting on a shelf since I got it

>>2865350
Years ago when I was still doing woodwork with hand tools, I got a whole bunch of bits plus a brace to use them and one of the best ones was an adjustable bit that I could make holes up to about two and a half inches in diameter. Great for drilling just one or two holes of a weird size that you don't want to go and buy a drill bit for

>>2865381
My brother did jewelry and used to Dremel for years until it burned out and he never replaced it. I don't know why people hold those tools and such high regard

[Anonymous No.2866554]

>>2865525
Cheap compound miter saws are just an exercise in frustration. I spent good money and got a dewalt.

I was cutting all kinds of basalt with a diamond blade on mine to fit it for my outdoor wood fired oven. And now I'm going to use it to shape the hard centered fire brick into a dome shape by slicing off a bit on each side of the brick. A bit slow on this salt but that's the nature of it. I'm making my bearings grind though I guess I damaged them a bit with The Rock dust.

[Anonymous No.2866556]

>>2865650
I have one of their routers I bought it very early in my power tool journey. The first one I bought was a Makita three and a quarter inch hand planer. That tool is still going strong.

The rotor on the other hand is hard to adjust, definitely underpowered even though it claims to be two and a half horsepower, call it doesn't hold very securely unless you're really careful and the locking mechanism is troublesome to use. And the on-off switch is Tiny and hard to use

[Anonymous No.2866558]

>>2866488
I had to do a bunch of finger joints final size for a couple of my telescope case projects. I used a Spoke shave on the smaller one, and I used a Stanley Bedrock playing adjusted very finely with a Hock extra thick plane blade in it. I've got a random orbit sander, and one of those simonizers for doing large sanding jobs. Trouble is my random orbit is suffering from age and it's working very intermittently and I suspect it needs new brushes or part of this stator is gone on the wiring

[Anonymous No.2866581]

>>2866558
>random orbit is suffering from age and it's working very intermittently
Few years ago one of mine started acting up, ended up being the power switch.

[Anonymous No.2866588]

>>2866558
How do you tell if the brushes are dying? Ive got this vacuum in my shop, and lately when i’m using it, there is this weird smell and it sounds a bit funny.
The smell is like… you know those old RC cars (and trains) that has those metal tracks, and you pick up the car when it was warm after racing it and sniff it? Like that. Kind of a oily/electronic smell.

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2866590]

>>2866588
Open it up and see how much meat is left on the brushes. Some of the old corded tools are super easy to access, it’s like 2 slotted screw caps.

That ozone smell isn’t always dying brushes, I think a lot of times it’s all sorts of old brush dust and crap in there getting stuff dirty and causing some extra sparks.

[Anonymous No.2866602]

>>2866590
>That ozone smell isn’t always dying brushes, I think a lot of times it’s all sorts of old brush dust and crap in there getting stuff dirty and causing some extra sparks.

Sometimes it's the armature or windings that are fucked causing a lot of extra arcing and sparking making that ozone smell.

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2866608]

>>2866602
This too happened to me on a dremel, dead spots on the motor and it was sparking like a bitch as it jumped between good spots and spots

[Anonymous No.2866624]

>>2865540
>>2866033
your nose is showing

[Anonymous No.2866681]

>>2866550
Portable presses like >>2865989 are fantastic for a lot of stuff where bringing the work to a drill press is impractical.

[Anonymous No.2867014]

>>2865650
I have ryobi wacker, trimmer, drill, jigsaw, a fucking air inflator...I just keep buying them when i need a cheap tool that i don't use constantly, and I keep thinking one day I'll get tired of them and replace them with better stuff, but they never break. My drill is about 15 years old and I use it monthly.

[Anonymous No.2867051]

Automatic spark-plug gapping tool. You would set the gap, insert the plug and squeeze the handle. Supposedly a perfect gap, every time. I don't think they even make it, anymore. Biggest fucking waste of money, ever.

[Anonymous No.2867057]

>>2865650
Some is really decent and some is really that bad.

[Kevin Van Bepis !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2867074]

>>2867014
This. People who actually own them have no issue with the stuff.

>>2867051
I can’t remember the last time I bought a spark plug that wasn’t gapped just fine from the factory. I think gapping plugs is a boomer thing like filling up batteries with distilled water, it’s totally unnecessary in 99% of situations today.

[Anonymous No.2867231]

>>2866681
If I need to bring a homemaker to a part then it's the portable drill I've never needed one of these presses.

[Anonymous No.2867371]

>>2867074
>I can’t remember the last time I bought a spark plug that wasn’t gapped just fine from the factory. I think gapping plugs is a boomer thing like filling up batteries with distilled water, it’s totally unnecessary in 99% of situations today.
You still check em though right?

[Anonymous No.2867384]

>>2867051
Sounds like the perfect tool twice a decade

[Anonymous No.2867386]

This.
Not because it doesn't work.
Not because it is cheap ancient awkward to operate.
Not because the bits are Chineseium.
But because the transparent base it has that is used to hold the attachments, has a huge plastic nib that sticks out into the cylinder that you put the router into and bottoms out a good fucking 8mm from surface flush. I'm losing so much depth of cut with this stupid design.

[Anonymous No.2867396]

>>2865174

[Anonymous No.2867402]

>>2867386
Just nut up and buy the DeWalt or Bosch, don't go Amazon bargain hunting on a key tool like this.

I personally prefer the way the DeWalt adjusts.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2867408]

>>2867371
…and I feel like I wasted my time every single time I check the gap on new plugs.

>>2867386
>>2867402
That’s actually a tool I was tempted to go cheap on, just because it’s such a basic one that it looks like they could all be Makita knockoffs and the design has been the same forever.

I ended up going Kobalt for my big router with table and the smaller palm router. I don’t really have Kobalt anything besides those, but in both situations I was thinking about Bosch because their router is super popular, never pulled the trigger, and then one day looking at the Bosch again, one of the Kobalts went on sale for so cheap that I couldn’t pass up on it.

As a non-woodworker who builds a random wood project maybe 2-3 times a year, I figured Kobalt would be good enough since they’re generally solid tools. They have worked good so far and both the big router and table and the palm router ended up being about the price of a no-name Amazon brand when they went on sale for such a low price.

[Anonymous No.2867632]

>>2865174
Bosch IXO
Bought it on sale for 20€ but it has no torque so you have to tighten everything by hand.

Bought a Metabo 12v Powermaxx BS set for 50€ and it has actual power, adjustable torq, and the battery lasts way longer.

The IXO was a mistake. Can't even unscrew secured bolts.
On that note:
Inbus is the better Locktite.
Same performance for half the price

[Anonymous No.2867641]

>>2867408
I actually splurged for a Bosch router after killing one old as hell router and having issues with another loosening up and self adjusting it's depth on me during a project.

Bought it after that particular project was done, and haven't used it once since! Lol. So goes life. I'm set up for the next time I need a damn router though!

T. Not a wood-worker.

[Anonymous No.2867642]

>>2867632
>Inbus is the better Locktite.
>Not using Locttlf...

ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.2867738]

>>2865174
The only disappoint thing in this kind of tool is how horrible the cutting disks are. You look at them and they already break in half.
And it is not a simple matter of having sideways pressure during the cut either, because they break by falling on the floor.

I bought a more expensive set and I am waiting to test it out and I hope this time it doesn't break by a simple wind passing through it.

[Anonymous No.2867744]

>>2867642
ching chong ping pong ripoff loctite has been working fine for me. ive put it in $25k cat engine rebuilds and never thought twice about it

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2867779]

>>2867738
I do a bit better with name brand accessories. Wait for Dremel to go on clearance and stock up, or Walmart had the Hart brand on clearance at some stores for super cheap. The tend to run better than the Amazon Chinesium special 1000pc sets if you use them correctly. Sanding and grinding bits are the same, generic Chinese consumables are the worst,

[Anonymous No.2867804]

i bought a 12v dewalt hammer drill because i just assumed it could hammer without drilling, i was looking forward to chipping off some mortar from a stack of old bricks i have

i even bought a set of chisels off amazon in anticipation, so now I guess I either use my large corded SDS or I use it on hammer drill mode but with a typical jackhammer bit on it and just pretend I dont see it rotate

it came with two 12v batteries for less than the cost of said batteries alone so its not a complete loss

[Anonymous No.2867815]

>>2867744
Seriously its been working fine for me too. I honestly bought the Locttlf stuff off of banggood many years ago and been using it since. Crazy how expensive name brand Loctite is!

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2867822]

>>2867804
Tons of the smaller SDS-Plus type drills don’t have a hammer only mode. I’d assume a 12V barely has any more hammering force than a typical 18V hammer drill/driver. If you go big like SDS-Max, then you should have a little more force for the hammer only.

[Anonymous No.2867835]

>>2865174
Sawsall, used it for demo, but a circular saw an oscillating multi tool and a hack saw are always closer at hand the sawsall is a sledgehammer in my tool belt big and cumbersome.

[Anonymous No.2867873]

>>2867804

You kids.

[Anonymous No.2867956]

>>2867873
i have rsi/tendonitis from working with my hands my whole life and they go numb if i use them too much

[Anonymous No.2867985]

>>2867956
same. didn't take my whole life to get there tho

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2867999]

>>2867985
>>2867956
Kek, go talk to this anon
>>2866807
>>2866754

[Anonymous No.2868091]

>>2865350
Is that an analog dilator?

[Anonymous No.2868109]

>>2867999
>34
>gaming since 4 years old
>every job since 18 has been hard on hands/wrists
>completely absolutely fucked
>wake up in morning and arms numb
>hold hands above chest
>arms numb
>hold them out to side
>arms numb
>rest them on desk
>arms numb

>>2867985
no matter what age you got rsi it took your whole life at that point

[Anonymous No.2868122]

>>2865744
Just use a knife, utility knife with disposable blades. You score the circumference at whatever length, and then either bend the end of the cable until the insulation parts and you slide it off, or you add one more score perpendicular to the first out to the cut end of the cable and peel it off.

[Anonymous No.2868161]

>>2867744
> loctite for circular parts
Wait until you look at the msds and test them and realize the 100 different loctites are all basically the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.2868221]

>>2868161
Red, blue, and sleeve retainer are the 3 I keep on hand. I heard you can use the sleeve retainer as a super duper loctite for threaded fasteners that is even harder to disassemble than red loctite. Dunno how true that is, but i have put it on a few things i really didn't want to come apart again.

[Anonymous No.2868229]

>>2868161
yeah they have the same base compositions, and have slightly different proportions to tune the strength, what is your point anon? bc they clearly behave different

[Anonymous No.2868283]

>>2865650
No but actually yes

[Anonymous No.2868292]

>>2865363
Unironically go outside and touch grass, tranny.

[Anonymous No.2868294]

>>2868292

[Anonymous No.2868295]

>>2865174
A few years ago I bought a pretty nice hardwood flooring cleat nailer for a job and thought I would get plenty of use out of it, but it seems like any time I install flooring these days it's all just laminate and lvp garbage. Haven't touched it since that one job. Would have been way better off just buying a fucking laminate cutter (still probably going to)

[Anonymous No.2868307]

>>2865989
I used one of these (someone else's) to drill holes to mount a solid wood mantle to a bracket and it seemed to work well enough, it just seems like a lot of extra work for a slightly straighter hole

[Anonymous No.2868361]

>>2865181
don't worry, I'm 6'5" with blonde hair, blue eyes, 250lb of strong with 11in long, and thicker than half my exes wrists. It's no better for me
the problem isn't you, it's women
now I'm just gym, motorcycle, computer games.

[Anonymous No.2868788]

>>2868361
>6'5" with blonde hair, blue eyes, 250lb of strong with 11in long, and thicker than half my exes wrists.
Way more gay dudes will be into you than women. A lot of women won't even try to take that.

[Anonymous No.2868865]

>>2865744
Skill issue. I used one of these professionally for years to strip large and fucking massive cables. Adjust the cutter for your insulation, pull the cable tight to keep it from twisting with the tool and dont be retarded.

[Anonymous No.2869022]

>>2868307
the point of those are often getting angled holes, not so much straight ones

[Anonymous No.2869046]

>>2867384
Not even. Didn't work, worth a shit. I could consistently hand-gap 8 cylinders, just as well and almost as fast.

[Anonymous No.2869050]

>>2869046
I stopped gapping plugs in 1986.

[Anonymous No.2869147]

>>2865363

[Anonymous No.2869538]

>>2865194
get a wabeco but then it costs as much as a cheap drill press.

and you need a good corded drill with small runnout not the old one you used to mix bags of mortar.

[Anonymous No.2871411]

>>2869538
it looks sturdy as hell, and the kind of shit i would integrate in an asembly line, not the kind you see in a home /diy/ but sure it would be useful

[Anonymous No.2871412]

>>2869538
But then why not buy the cheap drill press in the first place?

[Anonymous No.2871413]

>>2871412
while not as convenient, you cannot deny that is way more versatile.

[Anonymous No.2871523]

>>2871411
you could use it to mass produce some stuff really well if you build the right jigg.

you can also buy a 2 axis milling table or really long columns for it.

[Anonymous No.2871531]

>>2871523
yeah the more i look into it the more it looks like it could be really useful in a small manufacturing workshop

[Anonymous No.2871538]

Battery vacuum. Thought it would save lots of time during maintenance at a hotel but it hadnt much suction.

I did find a use for it sucking bugs out of upturned chandelier shades.

[Anonymous No.2871637]

>>2866428
I used mine and a CNC spindle

[Anonymous No.2871646]

>>2871538
The one I've got is great when I'm doing stuff I do at work, like hanging TVs and putting holes in tables and cabinets for conference calling systems.

[Anonymous No.2873148]

>>2871646
the cheap home appliance kind ones are really shit

[Anonymous No.2873156]

>>2871646

The one i got was similar to pic rel. but about 8-10 years ago. I wanted a cheap one that i wouldnt mind killing with concrete dust because standard walls are RCB so to put up even a picture frame its usually a hammer drill and concrete screws or wall plugs and screws

[Anonymous No.2873166]

>>2873148
Yeah, that's one's a proper HEPA wet/dry that also works great with my Bosch random orbit sander. Don't even need a different adapter for it.

[Anonymous No.2873248]

>>2873166
how much the battery last?

[Anonymous No.2873282]

>>2873248
Haven't had it drop more than a bar even with multi-stage sanding of a decent sized 30" walnut slab. The kit comes with a 4AH XR battery.

[Anonymous No.2873920]

>>2865674
Including my bro and we're both long-experienced tool fetishists including running USAF maintenance support sections (designing and assembling tool kits etc). He bought Ryobi on the road to fix surprise fuckery at his relatives home and loves them including the rotary tool.

[Anonymous No.2873921]

>>2866428
They make good high-power "Dremel" tools, the reason I bought my motor at a yard sale. I've never needed it as anything else.

[Anonymous No.2873935]

>>2867396
That would be a decent deburring tool for 3d printing

[Anonymous No.2873947]

>>2868161
The msds is not good a way to compare 2 chemical mixtures but if you insist, the ones for 602 and 243 dont even list all the same hazardous compounds, eg propylene glycol

[Anonymous No.2873989]

>>2873947
>propylene glycol
>hazardous
It's a neutral carrier fluid, as long as you aren't chugging it it's food-safe in small amounts.

[Anonymous No.2874002]

I got it for free for testing it out so it could be worse, but the cabinet door alignment jig in picrel is so sloppily machined that it can't even begin to position anything within a typical cabinet door reveal tolerance...the adjustable plate that holds the door not only moves up and down when it needs to be fixed, it wobbles side to side so that a typical cabinet door corner can move up and down as much as 5/8".
It's totally useless and what makes it worse is that it looks gorgeous with anodized extruded aluminum and chrome parts, like it's going to be some kind of precision jig...and because it's so specialized it's not even suitable to cannibalize for parts to make something else useful out of it.

[Anonymous No.2874010]

>>2874002
>I got it for free for testing it out

What are you some kind of influencer or jewtoober?

[Anonymous No.2874013]

>>2874010
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/amazon-vine-reviewer-free-stuff/

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2874017]

Tempted to snag picrel, but worried I will regret it. For $75, it looks perfect for tossing in the car when I need to go help people with projects because lately it has been a shit show trying to load up a few plumbing things and a few drywall things plus some stuff for wood framing/repair in my shitty tool bags.

I worry that I will be disappointed though. Milwaukee is the most tempting but $$$$, the DeWalt system looks straight, Ridgid is cool and well built but not as comprehensive as the others. The Craftsman system is like DeWalt Jr and can be found for cheap, maybe I’ll look at that more, especially if DeWalt boxes will fit on it. It would suck if the Hart system gets discontinued or the lack of compatible boxes leaves me wanting more, but if I drop <$150 on a 3pc base plus a 3 drawer compartment and 2 half size organizers, it wouldn’t be that much invested.

[Anonymous No.2874229]

this drill press cost me like 1000 bucks and the entire spindle wobbles like 0.010"
impossible to reasonably drill accurate holes

[Anonymous No.2874239]

>>2874229
>not buying quality tools from the golden age of manufacturing
youll learn eventually

[Anonymous No.2874241]

>>2874229
>>2874239
Yeah, I recently had to deal with that exact model grizzly at work as a drop-in "upgrade" for another relatively new press. Disappointing is right. Cheap in a lot of little, unexpected but seriously annoying ways. Effortlessly wrecked even by our other old rockwell/delta machines that have barely been maintained and have taper problems...

[Anonymous No.2874248]

>>2867744
Been using Eskonke for thread locker and retaining compound.

[Anonymous No.2874255]

>>2874241
Old tapers can be reground and those machines returned to service making money. It's not difficult to do so if your work will sell them to you for scrap or trade for some labor you could take one home and start that machine tool accumulation journey.

BTW don't bother with machinery skates which slip and tip. Fabbing a suitable dolly doesn't even require a welder but one comes in quite handy.

[Anonymous No.2875619]

>>2874229
maybe change the bearings or look if you can change the preload of them
cheap drill presses use radial ball bearings instead of proper bearings.

[Anonymous No.2875674]

>>2865650
Most of it is not bad at all. Someone specific ones are well behind on features thought. Their track saw is basically only good for cutting panels, the power and the crappy baseplate will disappoint you with more involved stuff. But I bought a bunch of their stuff 5 years ago when I was gutting and rebuilding a house that had a fire. Its all still going strong. Only issue is that the chuck on the original brushed drill/driver has gotten crunchy. Only 1 battery pack (one of the old 1.5Ah) out of maybe 8 I have has given up.

>>2865744
I have this same multi-head tool with the edger and string trimmer. Works great except that the edger eats the batteries pretty quick (usually need two 4Ah to trim and edge 1/3rd acre lot), and the speed selector switch on the side is positioned just right to rub against my knee and switch to low speed when I'm walking with it.

[Anonymous No.2875721]

What the actual fuck is this thing even for? Don't think I've used it once.

[Anonymous No.2875734]

>>2875721
You dont need that tool, until you need that tool. Works good for removing sections of wood for repair. I just used mine for relacing some rotted wood in a pole barn. whole piece of wood didnt need to be replaced just a section. Cut it out patch it in. Also works good for cutting outlet holes and such.

[Anonymous No.2875756]

>>2867386
>ancient
why is it ancient
i was about to buy the same style of trim router about a month ago but from a slightly reputable chinese manufacturer
what about the 12mm large one
>>2867402
>just pay 10x for a tool you'll need multiples of anyway

[Anonymous No.2875806]

>>2875721
It's perfect for cutting in tight areas where a normal saw has no room to move or can't fit, and also where typical saws risk damaging adjacent to finishes. Door and flooring installers use them a lot to make small adjustments to trim like casings to accomodate a thicker floor plank or vice versa, without the risk to surrounding finishes that a normal saw creates. They are also great with an abrasive blade for removing grout, and with a scraper blade for liftin old tile and glue residue.

They also don't make a lot of dust and are very safe as far as cutting skin that touches them- the original idea came from saws used to cut casts off.

[Anonymous No.2875813]

>>2875721
It's kind of like a power chisel. It does plunge cuts really well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzv3IBnNVzo

[Anonymous No.2875816]

>>2875806
>They also don't make a lot of dust and are very safe as far as cutting skin that touches them
Fun fact: the amount they jerk back and forth is less than the elasticity of skin, so you literally can't cut yourself if you try.
However, blade gets hot because of friction, and you absolutely can BURN yourself with it.

[Anonymous No.2875824]

>>2875816
>>2875806
and no, depending on the type of blade and teeth geometry, you can absolutely cut yourself with oscillating tools, it just won't be a life-altering injury.

[Anonymous No.2876261]

>>2875721
Great for reno. Screws with no head holding shit to a structural beam? Rip this mofo between them and it's no problemo.
Basically just for ripping screws, rotted wood and wire in super weird places and nothing else. Useless until you need it kinda deal. Mines always covered in dust every time I end up using it but I'm glad it's there.

[Anonymous No.2876280]

>>2874017
I have used this tool box for 4 years. It's not as stout as a name brand, but is ergonomic and does fine.

[Anonymous No.2877631]

>>2865180
I have X pliers from Crescent (the long nose model that I see everywhere) and they're really smooth as long as they're not opened really wide. I only need them for small stuff and opening the handles by a few milimeters opens the jaws that much as well, so I never noticed any difference compared to regular pliers
>Go to the medical supply store for stuff that will fit in tight spots.
this. hemostatic pliers are the best thing for grabbing and holding small stuff, and you can lock them shut, so you don't even need to keep holding anything. hard to get anything longer than 9-10'', though

[Anonymous No.2877837]

>>2865174
the ultimate meme product. It doesn't fit where you need it to be 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.2877841]

>>2875756
Why ancient? Because I meant to type and

[Anonymous No.2877939]

>>2875756
>just pay 10x for a tool you'll need multiples of anyway
Why the fuck would you need several of the same type of router?

I can understand getting two 2-1/4 HP routers so you can leave one in your table full time, but if it's for personal use why would you need multiple trim routers if you have one good one? And if its for a business, buying multiple good ones is a far better financial decision than cheap ones you have to replace every six months.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2877944]

>>2877837
I got that thing maybe 6mos or a year ago and I don’t think I have used it. Maybe it will be a lifesaver at some point, but so far I have been doing ok with the pliers already in my little tool bag.

[Anonymous No.2877987]

>>2877939
not the same type just multiple routers so you may as well get some low powered ones too
one for router table, one for engraver/carver, one for mortiser, at least one to freehand and maybe one for your future homemade cnc lol
>cheap ones you have to replace every six months
that's an exaggeration even cheap things last a while you're just spoiled

[Anonymous No.2878016]

>>2877987
Use them in a business and you'll be pushing them a lot harder than they were made for. They also really suck to operate compared to even budget brand tools like Ryobi or Rigid. It's a scam to exploit people trying to get into the tools and get them to give money to a fly by night Chinese company that'll disappear before it inevitably breaks.

And if you think they'll be good for a CNC, do I have bad news for you.

[Anonymous No.2878036]

>>2878016
>budget brand tools like Ryobi or Rigid
those are the tier of tools i'm talking about no? like total

[Anonymous No.2878047]

>>2874229
>wobbles like 0.010"
oh poor you

[Anonymous No.2878068]

>>2878036
Please read up the reply chain, jackass.

[Anonymous No.2878073]

>>2877944
it's physically the biggest waste of space in your tool box

[Anonymous No.2878212]

>>2865174
I needed a new romex stripper in a rush because I lost mine, all they had was this piece of shit. It doesn't strip romex, it shaves the jacket like a retard with a potato peeler and either doesn't shave enough off or it shaves straight through both the outer jacket and the inner insulation, usually nicking the wire to boot.
The worst part is that it cost me like 15 fucking dollars when the cheap romex strippers are like $3 and work 100x better.

So I tossed this infuriating thing into the mississippi river and bought 10 of the regular ones to stash in my truck.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2878225]

>>2878212
Sort of reminds me of picrel and those shorts you see of guys twisting 20 wires in one box and then putting on another bit to twist the wire nuts. As if constantly changing tools and bits and using those meme tools wouldn’t waste more time than using the pliers you already have in your hand.

[Anonymous No.2878421]

>>2878225
Yeah, but stripping romex with a utility knife, or even worse a pair of linesmans, is both time consuming and likely to damage the insulation and potentially the conductor itself. The pliers style NM strippers suck and you can easily nick the conductor if you're not careful, unironically the cheap stamped metal rippers are the best way to strip romex outer sheath and expose the inner wires without damaging the insulation.

[Anonymous No.2879189]

>>2878068
i am the reply chain

[Anonymous No.2879329]

>>2865650
I have a handful of ryobi tools and they're all good enough, except the miter saw which is crooked

[Anonymous No.2879335]

>>2879329
Cordless saws are cooked I've used maybe 2 good ones and they're both contractor grade. Like Hilti/Milwaukee $$$. Ryobi is not contractor grade. If you're a /diy/er looking for cheap shit don't even bother with cordless saws it's a mess.

[Anonymous No.2879359]

>>2878421
Why are you posting a speculum?

[Anonymous No.2879378]

Angle grinder and 1/2" impact. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I have them when I needed them, but I've barely used them since getting the kit they came in. On the contrary, the recipro saw I got as a redemption gift on the kit (which I expected to never use) has been abused to hell and back.

>>2875721
I concur with the other anons; you're glad you have it when you've got it. Got one to cut off a welded nut in a real cunt of a place on one of my motorbikes, and didn't use it for ages until I had to do the same thing on a stationary motor that had a stripped thread on one of the nuts on the intake. Recently started using it a bunch for cutting holes for ducting through plastic, and cutting through old buried Ag pipe we needed to take off a site (rocky ass soil and fencing debris strewn everywhere made it too nasty for recipros). Was amazed by how fast it cut through the thick ass ag pipe actually, considering I only packed it to help one of our operators clear snagged fencing wire from an attachment on their machine.

[Anonymous No.2879581]

>>2879378
It's funny, as somebody who primarily does woodworking as well as homeowner DIY stuff and basic repairs, I have perhaps used an angle grinder like 2 times a year if even that much. It's just such a niche for me personally, and I agree that it has been the most... not disappointing, but just not used tool in my toolbox. The 1/2" impact only gets used when I have to work on my car or truck, which also happens to be only a couple of times a year.

[Anonymous No.2879593]

>>2879359
Are you being retarded on purpose?

[Anonymous No.2879594]

>>2865285
lol its like a shitty kerrison rogeur but without the long reach

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2879705]

>>2879378
>>2879581
Once you put the diamond blade on the angle grinder and realize you can cut and shape bricks and tile, it’s pretty useful. I snagged a 2pk of those Spyder diamond grit multi material blades when they were on sale for cheap, and it’s a mainstay on one grinder now. Anything I need to slice where the sawzall is going to drag or burn through blades, that little diamond blade is nice and it’s not all explode-y like cutoff wheels.

[Anonymous No.2879828]

>>2879705
I should look into that. I will say that diamond blades were life-changing for renovations on a multitool, so I can imagine it will do wonders on an angle grinder too, but it will be loud...

[Anonymous No.2879839]

>>2879705
There's also the Kutzall burr discs for powercarving wood.

[Anonymous No.2879842]

>>2865363
lol seethe harder faggot

[Anonymous No.2879864]

>>2865174
i hate dremel brand dremels, they run for a few months, start losing speed function and only go WOT or just stop working, and the old ones would just get hot and seize right the fuck up after a while, does anyone have a better alternative?

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2879899]

>>2879828
They’re worth trying at this price. Not much louder than a cutoff wheel going through metal. I wouldn’t do like finish glass or tile work with it, but they cut anything

[Anonymous No.2879901]

>>2879864
Don't buy a rotary tool when you need a die grinder.

[Anonymous No.2879905]

>>2879899
I've used diamond blades on grinders and not really a fan, but at that price I'd get them just because why the fuck not. Where and when did you find them at that price?

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2879921]

>>2879905
Blowe’s

Don’t know who actually makes that Spyder stuff, but it’s supposed to be a more premium brand. I’ve snagged a handful of saw blades from them because they go dirt cheap on clearance at Lowe’s where the boomers would rather buy mediocre Craftsman, and all of the Spyder stuff has seemed on par with Diablo or DeWalt.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2879922]

>>2879905
>>2879921
Also those blades aren’t like regular tile blades for grinders and circ saws. It’s more of a diamond grit like the type they put on gold OMT blades made for grout. It just chews trough whatever you plunge the blade into.

[Anonymous No.2879979]

>>2879901
i have both but those cunts dont get into where i need to get to.

[Anonymous No.2880044]

>>2879922
>Also those blades aren’t like regular tile blades for grinders and circ saws. It’s more of a diamond grit like the type they put on gold OMT blades made for grout. It just chews trough whatever you plunge the blade into.

Yeah I know the type of blade, I've used the lennox metal maxx ones. Run 6" ones on a 4.5" grinder for some extra cut depth, and even have some 14" ones for chop saws. They're louder and slower than abrasives and leave a nasty burr. I have also used them in a pinch to cut concrete and other masonry.

[Anonymous No.2881423]

>>2867632
I saw an interesting video on youtube about loctite 241 threadlocker Vs regular superglue. The loctite only took something like 8 pounds on a digital torque wrench to undo after being left setting for 24 hours. Same test with regular superglue took 33 pounds to undo. Superglue is way cheaper and works way better as a thread locker.

[Anonymous No.2881432]

>>2881423
try >>2856266

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2881438]

>>2881423
I don’t think loctite is meant to superglue threads together though. I’d be curious to see the same thing done on an engine that went through 2 years of heat cycles and vibrations. If the super glue rattles itself apart in 2 weeks and the bolt is spinning and the loctite keeps the bolt from backing out, which one did its job? Especially blue loctite, that’s not supposed to make fasteners hard to remove, it’s supposed to keep those fasteners from coming loose unless a purposeful torque is applied to it.

[Anonymous No.2881439]

>>2881423
>A formula meant to prevent loosening by vibration is "beat" by a permanent glue
This tells you exactly nothing. Blue's purpose is that it's not hard to unscrew it with a tool. Red is what you use to set it permanently.

[Anonymous No.2881785]

>>2879921

[Anonymous No.2881796]

[Anonymous No.2882211]

>>2865363

[Anonymous No.2882217]

remember this list before buying tools so you dont get dissapointed

[Anonymous No.2882269]

>>2882217

[Anonymous No.2882281]

>>2881796
When I was a kid in Boy Scouts all the kids oohed and ahhed over those cheap knockoff "Swiss army" knives that had so many tools (including a full size dinner fork and soup spoon) that you had a hard time gripping them.

My dad who was a major tool guy based on his work knew they were ridiculous and said so and wouldn't let me get one, one Christmas I got a gullible relative to give me one as a gift. Took it camping and it *was* a ridiculous POS that didn't do anything well and could hurt you since none of the tools locked; there wasnt any room left for the mechanism.

Fast forward a few decades and all the same kids who are now grown men are oohing and ahhing over the Leatherman concept and after friends keep handing me theirs instead of a real tool when I ask for one, I realize it's just an adult version of the same wannabe McGuyver LARP.

The point was driven home even harder when someone gave me a Snap-On version that was absurdly fat and hard to grip when using the knives and screwdrivers and similar tools, and guaranteed to pinch the fuck out of your palm and/or meaty parts of your fingers when using the wire cutter and the handles snapped together.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2882285]

>>2882281
Leatherman Wave is good if you have nothing else nearby. Anything larger than that is full of useless crap unless you get a specific tool like the one designed to rebuild an AR in the field. No substitute for a Leatherman when you need pliers, and that comes up a lot in beyond-boyscout life. But whether it’s a Leatherman knockoff or SAK, if you can’t open the knife with one hand and lock it, they’re a pain in the ass to use.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.2882286]

>>2882281
>>2882285
…but I must add, you’re correct. Every time somebody in an /out/ thread asks about multitools, I tell them to spend the money on a damn Wave. Anything less than that has disapponted me because shitty Chinese metal and it’s not worth using if you need to unfold the pliers and then break a fingernail just to access the knife. And the larger Supertool things become so bulky and heavy that you don’t want to carry them on the daily. Also Leatherman’s flat screwdriver bits aren’t perfect, but they’re far more useful than most multitool screwdrivers.

[Anonymous No.2882288]

>>2882286
>>2882285
>>2882281
Gerber MP600 or whatever the model number is with the blunt tipped pliers is the best ever made IMHO. Full size pliers head is out with a quick flick. I like the older ones with the integrated wire cutter instead of the inserts. The crappy carbide wire cutter inserts can be swapped out with high speed steel inserts for better performance, but I still prefer the old ones. Unfortunately I don't think they produce any of them without the insert cutters anymore...

[Anonymous No.2882320]

>>2881796
>>2882281
>>2882285
>>2882286
>>2882288
TBF here, when I was in the Army basically all of us had a Gerber or Leatherman plus a proper pocket knife. Having a multitool in the moment when you need to do something that needs one of the tools is always better than needing the toolbox 20 miles away.

[Anonymous No.2882321]

>>2882286
I had the Gerber Legend, but similar reasoning that you don't need to open the pliers to get at the handle tools.

[Anonymous No.2882556]

>>2865174
dewalt miter saw. its 0* mark is not true 0.

[Anonymous No.2882567]

>>2882556
>I didn't know my power tools have calibration setup you need to do once it's out of the box!

[Anonymous No.2882608]

>>2882567
lol ive been trying to calibrate this thing for 3 years. the thing is simply off and wont cut a clean joint. face it dewalt isnt what it used to be.

[Anonymous No.2882621]

>>2865174
huh, I was thinking about buying an immersion blender but why not get one of these instead? if I can fit some kind of blender spindle in the chuck that is

[Anonymous No.2882700]

that's a real tough call. the butane soldering iron that leaks gas? the rotary tool that can't cut anything? every ratcheting screwdriver ever?

[Anonymous No.2882701]

>>2882700
Dude I hate ratcheting screwdrivers...
>Until
Wife got a Kobalt on sale at lowes for $5.
>initially pissed at wasted $5
Bro.. That thing is really good. Had her buy another for $5 to have in the shop its so good.

[Anonymous No.2882712]

>>2875721
this is a joke right?

[Anonymous No.2882715]

>>2866624
Why are you fuckers infecting every board when there's a special one made for you?

[Anonymous No.2882727]

>>2882715
>bumps to seethe about a 2 month old post that would have otherwise gone unnoticed
>adds nothing to the conversation
>in a USELESS TOOL thread
absolute pottery

>>2865174
to stay on topic, i was utterly disappointed by the m12 hackzall. the stoke length is too short compared to the m18 so it cuts way to slow

[Anonymous No.2882740]

>>2882608
Weird, literally just put edge bands precisely miter cut around a sheet of plywood using a dewalt 12" slider. Sounds like a skill issue.

[Anonymous No.2882742]

>>2882621
Don't, keep your kitchen and woodworking tools separate.

[Anonymous No.2882743]

>>2882608
>>2882740
multiple people complaining ITT about miter saws, they're pretty simple tools. Get a square and check the cut pieces while fiddling with adjustments until they match.

[Anonymous No.2882744]

>>2882701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

There's some great ones now. The PB Swiss is fuckass expensive but tough, Megapro's is pretty good, and the Linus Tech Tips evolution of it is excellent for IT work.

[Anonymous No.2882761]

>>2867641
Same, but I'm not broken up about it. Dicking around with a janky router really isn't something I'd like to do, and it's a good core tool to have around even if I don't do too much with wood.

[Anonymous No.2882762]

>>2877837
Yeah all those suck. You already have pliers and wrenches for most of its "uses", and that basically leaves drain removal. It fails at drain removal though because chances are it will deform or snap the crossbars and you'll really need this lil nigga.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2882935]

>>2882744
I’ve always been meh on ratcheting screwdrivers after having a handful of shitty ones in the past, but this Vessel might change my opinion. I had a couple of Ballgrip + drivers in the past, and it might be my favorite screwdriver handle. Plus this thing has a grip right under the yellow selector that you can spin with your thumb and forefinger. And the ball part comes off and turns into a ratcheting stubby driver. We’ll see how it works out. If I like it, I’ll try the Anex next for a similar handle shape.

As for useless tools, I just got this chip lifter. I did not know chiplifters were a thing until one day my autist ass watched a video from that “Last Best Tool” collector guy who talks about how well all his unused tools work when he doesn’t use them. He was like “Everybody should have a chip lifter!” and I’m like “For $8, why not?”

Now I’m looking at the thing and have no clue what to do with it.

[Anonymous No.2882936]

I’ll get banned because it’s a blue board. But turns out size does matter when you’re 3” for mast.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2882940]

>>2882936
Stubbies have their place. You don’t always want to go so deep

[Anonymous No.2882961]

>>2865363
You must be lost, no karma here, faggot.

[Anonymous No.2882966]

>>2878047
0,25mm is a shitton if you have to drill small holes into metal.

[Anonymous No.2882968]

>>2874229
My old boss’s shop had that same piece of shit. The rack decided it would rather be a bent piece of chinesium shit and it bent itself and broke off. Garbage.

[Anonymous No.2883127]

>>2882217
dremel is fucking shit tier, ive managed to kill 2 of them doing sheet metal, I will kick everry single one of you in the dick for defending their products.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2883146]

>>2883127
My ol’ Dremel is biting the dust too. 1/3 of the motor is dead spots. I prefer their consumables when they’re on sale, but I’m probably going to replace it with a cheap one because they’re all bound to burn up anyway and even the $20 versions have a motor with the same power and the threaded nose cone part that will accept all my Dremel(tm) accessories.

[Anonymous No.2883228]

Why don't more people use foredom style flexible shaft grinders instead of stupid dremels?

[Anonymous No.2883238]

>>2883228
cost, size, portability, availability, etc. most people aren't using dremel in a production/manufacturing setting with stationary rotary tools, and one has to really use rotary tools enough to justify setting up a foredom style flexible shaft rotary at the workbench.

[Anonymous No.2883252]

>>2882940
Picrel is better in every way

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2883291]

>>2883252
Nah they’re useful in different cases. The ratchets are for places you can’t fit a stubby, but stubby is preferable in a lot of cases because the ratchets are awkward with a PH bit that’s trying to cam out and you need to try and squeeze a finger in there to keep pressure on it.

[Anonymous No.2883294]

>>2883291
If you can't get a finger in there then you can't get a stubby in either. And if you're near the limit of being able to fit a stubby then you're not going to be able to put much pressure on it, where as you'll have plenty of space to press down on a ratchet. As well as that you won't be constantly releasing and repositioning your grip and tiring out your forearm.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2883295]

>>2883294
Doesn’t sound like you have used much of either. Never seen somebody want to use a micro ratchet on something where a stubby + hand would fit and it’s not some overtightened T-30 or something.

The little bit ratchets are for when there’s like 2” clearance and not much room to swing a handle. Stubby screwdrivers are for spots where you don’t have 10”-12”+ for a full size screwdriver. You could fit a full 3/8” ratchet with a bit socket in most of the places a stubby driver would fit, and it would be less awkward to handle than the tiny bit ratchets, but people don’t do it because screwdrivers are typically faster on screws than a ratchet and you don’t need to swing a handle 1/3 of a turn like 90 times to remove a screw.

[Anonymous No.2883297]

>>2883295
I've used both plenty. The thing is I only use the stubby because it's small to carry around, not because it can fit in smaller places. If there's enough room to get a decent grip on a stubby then a lot of the time there's room for a normal sized screwdriver. If there isn't then I'm going to be grabbing and twisting the stubby like a motorbike throttle and that's just not ergonomic, and in that case I would rather use a ratchet (micro bit ratchet or full size) so I can put downwards pressure with one hand and apply some decent torque with the other.

Speaking of motorcycles removing some plastic panels on mine is a situation where the bit ratchet works very well. There's a space where a stubby will only just fit but there's not enough room to get a full secure grip on it, but the ratchet has plenty of room.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2883306]

>>2883297
You’re talking about mechanic stuff. Of course ratchets are going to be useful in plenty of spots there when you’re fucking around with metal on metal bolts. Not a wood screw in a cabinet or something. Two different tools for different jobs. Ratchets are tight quarters where more torque is required. Stubby screwdrivers are for all the situations where you would use a normal screwdriver but the 10” OAL of a normal driver isn’t ideal. It’s not the same type of tight quarters. The bit ratchet is going to be slower in a spot where you have room for the stubby.

[Anonymous No.2883308]

>>2883306
The panel on my bike is a "wood" screw into plastic, no different than one in a cabinet or whatever. The bit ratchet is much quicker to use than even my ratcheting stubby and more comfortable. There isn't the room to get a normal grip on the stubby where my arm is inline with the driver so I'm having to flex my wrist instead which is both slow and unergonomic. With the bit ratchet I just use one hand to apply pressure and with the other I flick the handle back and forth with my thumb and finger like I'm jerking off a micropenis. Other than this specific situation I've been in many others where I can't get a straight shot with a screwdriver, stubby or otherwise, and it really fucks up the forearms when you can't twist the driver in the normal way.