/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.2840336]

Remember the official list accepted by all
After weeks of voting by /diy/ /g/ /v/ and /pol/

[Anonymous No.2840340]

>>2840336
>Dremel
Are you serious? Far and away the worst tools I have ever had the misfortune of owning. Snowflake parts on everything, weak and underpowered. Honestly worse than basic bitch Black & Decker or flavor of the month chink shit.
>Hilti
>Stihl
Oh, you're shitposting. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.2840347]

>>2840336
for me it's parkside

[Anonymous No.2840436]

catch me at harbor freight nigga

[Anonymous No.2840464]

>>2840336
You saw that on /pol/, and now you think you have to some here with that shit.

[Anonymous No.2840465]

>>2840464
that's the most onions shit ever, all those unused chinkshit tools lined up perfectly
just throw your shit in a bucket and be done with it faggot

[Anonymous No.2840469]

>>2840436
Based. The power of Bauer.

[Anonymous No.2840497]

>>2840436
>cringe

[Anonymous No.2840526]

>>2840336
Not a single one of those who voted on this shit has ever seen actual contractors and what they use or been to a jobsite. My parents townhouse complex just had all their stairs and all their retaining wall and other wood thingies replaced by a pair of polish sounding older contractors over two months, 50 units, and all these two guys had was ryobi cordless and dewalt corded tools. Both of them drove shitbox vans. All tools beat to shit. It was a mid 6 figure contract...

[Anonymous No.2840527]

No Fein on there.

[Anonymous No.2840535]

>>2840526
Dumb fuck
Stupid idiot

[Anonymous No.2840536]

>>2840535
Back to /pol/, demon

[Anonymous No.2840538]

>>2840536
Kill yourself tranny
You will never be a woman
Go back to /g/ nerd

[Anonymous No.2840539]

>>2840336
Were the 3d printing ragebaits not fruitful enough anymore?

[Anonymous No.2840540]

>>2840336

Recently I bought myself an angle grinder and an impact drill, both made by Metabo. Both tools are corded and I will use them exclusively for my DYI purposes. Was this a bad idea? Are they truly inferior to the same Bosch Professional tools from the same price class? We are talking about the 160-200 euro price class here.

[Anonymous No.2840545]

>>2840540
>buying a impact driver in 2024

[Anonymous No.2840546]

>>2840469
The guys that installed my gazebo couldn't anchor it, they claimed I must have reinforced concrete because they couldn't drill it. I busted out this $40 concoction and did it myself.

lmao it's currently on clearance for $11

My masonry bits? Hyper Tough.

[Anonymous No.2840551]

>>2840545

Wait, am I missing something? The drill can be used also a normal drill, as the hammer function can be easily turned off. It has two speeds - high torque with low speed and low torque with high speed. I am not sure what exactly you mean, as I've used it as a general purpose drill so far and it's been working great. High speed, no hammer for screwdriving, high torque and hammer for drilling non-precise holes, high torque without hammer for drilling precise holes.

Am I doing something wrong?

[Anonymous No.2840556]

>>2840551
Impact driver and hammer drill are 2 different things. Impact driver is mainly just for screwing things quickly and it makes a loud brrrrrrrp when you reach the end from the impact thingy. Hammer drill is a regular drill with hammer mode for doing concrete and such.

[Anonymous No.2840557]

>>2840556
Why dont you shut the fuck up before I smash your teeth in kid?

[Anonymous No.2840558]

>>2840557

[Anonymous No.2840566]

>>2840558
Pathetic loser

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2840572]

>>2840551
>>2840556
The Yuros confuse the fuck out of everybody when it comes to this argument. I think they call hammer drills “impact drills” or some retarded shit like that and it starts internet tough guy fights.

>>2840336
I concur, this is objectively the correct list. I would be running green Bosch if I could find it. German brands that aren’t manufactured in Germany are the top #1 patrician choice.

[Anonymous No.2840575]

>>2840572
DA YUUUUUUUUUUUUROS make tools orders of magnitude better than any mutt chink-made israeli-made duwult or milwookie.

[Anonymous No.2840581]

>>2840572
>wera poorfag

Americans everyone

[Anonymous No.2840583]

>>2840581
Wera good.

[Anonymous No.2840586]

>>2840583
Idiot dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.2840587]

>>2840572
>>2840575
>>2840581
>>2840583
>>2840586
I have to poop

[Anonymous No.2840592]

>>2840572
>>2840575
>>2840581
>>2840583
>>2840586
>>2840587
Good news: I have pooped

[Anonymous No.2840596]

>>2840540
>Recently I bought myself an angle grinder and an impact drill, both made by Metabo. Both tools are corded and I will use them exclusively for my DYI purposes. Was this a bad idea? Are they truly inferior to the same Bosch Professional tools from the same price class? We are talking about the 160-200 euro price class here.

Metabo is a consistent high quality brand, every tool they sell is good. They have no "bad" tools in the lineup whatsoever. That's because they're relatively small with leadership which sets company guidelines for quality.
Their pricing for the performance you get is also pretty much universally good to great.

Especially the angle grinders of metabo are arguably some of the best on the market.

Bosch, both the professional and normal, have various tools with severe design flaws which fail prematurely.
Bosch lives of ancient "made in germany" boomer sentiment, it's an old big brand, that's why people buy it.
It is, however, not actually a good brand.
Bosch has reached a gigantic size for a company and has the typical gigantic company management issues which prevent them from actually being consistently good. Nobody is able to actually steer at a company that size.

The entire picture is a meaningless, obvious troll.

[Anonymous No.2840600]

>>2840592
Reported

[Anonymous No.2840601]

>>2840596
Kill yourself metabo shill

Dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.2840602]

>>2840600
That won't unpoop the turd I just dropped in my toilet.

[Anonymous No.2840605]

>>2840601
Ok but can you please buy some METABO tools?
I haven't reached my monthly quota yet.

Jokes aside, pricing by country varies, but here in some categories they're simply the obvious price/performance pick.

Also they have a couple tools where the competition has nothing with the same functionality at all, like their multihammers or the small cordless bench drill

t. METABO shill

[Anonymous No.2840608]

>>2840605
cringe

[Anonymous No.2840618]

>>2840336
I have bosch appliances and they're absolute dogshit. I would never buy anything from them again

[Anonymous No.2840623]

>>2840618
Spotted the tranny

[Anonymous No.2840624]

>>2840596

That's good to hear, then! I bought Metabo initially mostly due to a few positive anecdotes, the Made in Germany stamp and the great price. I purchase all of my tools directly from Germany and they usually cost me 50-60% of what I'd usually have to pay in my country (Bulgaria). But that's due to the resellers being pricks if anything. My 200 euro Metabo angle grinder is currently selling for close to 340 euro in Bulgaria. The same exact one. Sure, I had to pay a 15 euro delivery fee, but this is still preferable to being more or less robbed by those scammers.

And what about their battery powered tools, are they any good? I've only tried their corded tools so far.

[Anonymous No.2840625]

>>2840624
Fuck off with your gay ass metabo

Buy bosch

[Anonymous No.2840629]

>>2840625

Bosch is more Jewish than Israel itself. I could never bring myself to buy Bosch, even if they somehow were the best tools.

[Anonymous No.2840635]

>>2840629
Wrong. Bosch is litterally former nazi.

Metabo is for dumb goy cattle like you

[Anonymous No.2840636]

>>2840635

The key word is formely. Look up some key people from Bosch and the company, that owns Bosch. Then somehow explain why do they posses such huge noses.

Not only that, but Robert Bosch was also a part of an organization equivalent to the ADL in the US. He was also really against anti-Semitism. He has played the good Jew card during the Nazi reign as a means of self-preservation.

Bosch tools are only for the goyest goys. They are to be consoomed along with a good amount of corn syrup and dried insects.

[Sieg No.2840660]

>>2840340
Why doesn’t dremel come out with an ER collet equipped one aimed at professionals?

[Anonymous No.2840667]

>>2840660
How many professionals use rotary tools where something else isn't better suited for it like a die grinder, angle grinder, router, multi tool, etc? I'm sure there are applications, but in those extremely limited use cases, regular collets will do.

[Anonymous No.2840676]

>>2840624
>And what about their battery powered tools, are they any good? I've only tried their corded tools so far.

I got a BS 18 L BL Q cordless drill, super happy. It has that QUICK feature to pull of the chuck, which shortens and lightens the drill dramatically, making even a powerful medium sized 18V drill suitable for light stuff like assembling furniture and it really helps getting in awkward places.
Still handles 8x180mm wood screws no problem in low gear as well, so covers all my usecases without needing 2 drills.
Haven't really seen any other drill from another brand that could do the same desu.

Also got a STA 18 LTX 100 jigsaw, they have a larger 140 but the 100 already has way more power than I can imagine needing, really well made.

I also got a small cordless highspeed drill from metabo, the BE 18 LTX 6. It's a total niche tool, no other manufacturer seems to make something like it.
It's a high rpm drill (5000 rpm) metabo advertises it for the metal working industry, drilling small (up to 6mm) holes in steel and such, maybe for riveting or something it could replace air tools.
What I use it for is 99% pre-drilling small holes in wood for woodscrews.
Often when I build stuff out of wood, I use a lot of long thin woodscrews and pre-drill it with long, thin drillbits. Really cuts down on cracking and let's you push that construction technique a bit more for building workshop furniture and such.
Ofc a cordless drill can do that, but most max out at like 1600-1800 rpm, which sucks for 2-3-4-5 mm wood drills.
And you kinda want 2 tools anyways to not have to swap all the time.
According to metabo it can do up to 10mm in wood, but I drilled 30mm forstner bits into pine with it no problem, but it is a rather light, low torque tool.

Some random crappy picks from my projects folder: https://imgur.com/a/iKlAdpN
That's actually all the metabo tools I have, I just got 4.

t. not-even-professional metabo shill

[Anonymous No.2840679]

>>2840660
>Why doesn’t dremel come out with an ER collet equipped one aimed at professionals?

Dremel isn't a company that caters to professionals AT ALL, they're a company which is 100% dedicated to the hobbyist market.
In the professional space, you have a big-ass motor hung up above the workbench with a 1-1.5m long flexible shaft attached to it, these things have existed for decades and last forever.
Less weight in the hand, less girth, more torque.

For heavier use die grinders exist.

[Anonymous No.2840696]

>>2840336
Poorfag here. I bought all RYOBI and build an entire mini house 1200sqft exclusively with their tools. Saved me thousands of dollars in tools and I don't think the house would've been built any different with the 'better' tools

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2840741]

>>2840679
>less girth
I’m not about that. I’ll stick with my fat Dremel and stroke it til she smokes. My only regret is that it’s not black.

[Anonymous No.2840743]

>>2840336
>/g/ /v/ and /pol/
Whew, good to know this chart can be safetly disregarded.
>>2840526
At my workplace we have Milwaukee and Dewalts, all beat to hell. Had a drill throw a bunch of plastic bits out of the back but kept on going just the same, even after a coworker threw it across a room at a steel beam. /diy/ doesn't care about using tools, this shit is all just brand wars.

[Sieg No.2840768]

>>2840667
I’ve wished for a dremel flex shaft with an er-11 many times

Deburring large aluminum housings that were freshly cut on a cnc mill is one such case

You can’t just take a 95 pound housing with slots in int over to the pedestal grinder with a deburr wheel

[Anonymous No.2840794]

What is with Milwaukee 4th Gen impact driver M18 Fuel. We just killed a fifth one at work this summer. We install fiber optics for residential areas. What the fuck, team red?

[Anonymous No.2840824]

>>2840526
My uncle is polish and owns a construction company, he switched as soon to hilti as he could afford it, still bought my dad's old shitbox though.

[Anonymous No.2840945]

>>2840824
Wrong but ok

[Anonymous No.2840947]

>>2840794
American quality for you

[Anonymous No.2840951]

>>2840794
Milwaukee had an issue with the original gear case being too hardened and not properly tempered, a compromise they didn't think about when they increased the speed and reduced the side. Original part number is 14-29-5377 where the anvil would seize and teeth would break and shatter. Smoke was also common. They quietly changed the design in late 2023 and the new part number is 14-29-5370. Any of the impact drivers of this gen4 that is coming in for warranty has the part swapped regardless. The service center said they made the change at the factory level in December 2023. Check serial numbers, 2024 models should be fine. Any serial that doesn't start with M67A24 is a ticking Murphy's Law impact driver, inevitably will fail in the exact same way as most of these have failed for over two years.

[Sieg No.2841040]

>>2840947
Milwaukee is a Chinese brand

[Anonymous No.2841062]

>>2840336
>weeks of voting
>No Fein, no Flex
>Bosch blue on highest rank despite multiple people constantly calling them crap
Lurk moar, bud.

[Anonymous No.2841076]

>>2840336
This is the best tool, bosch can't even compete.

[Anonymous No.2841094]

>>2841076
Dilate

[Anonymous No.2841105]

>>2840635
>Wrong. Bosch is litterally former nazi.
So is was every other german before they turned them into the cucked shelled out husks you see blowing around there now.

[Anonymous No.2841125]

Ryobi router I bought was out lasted by a Delta one that was 40 years old. My DeWalt drill lasted through five big projects and the only reason I stopped using it is the battery packs were going on it. I was going to rebuild the drills but I decided not to bother and just got a new one on sale. Have a DeWalt compound miter saw as well a rigid Shop-Vac and 13-in power planer back from when they still made quality tools the new ones are garbage

[Anonymous No.2841222]

>>2840340
>Are you serious? Far and away the worst tools I have ever had the misfortune of owning. Snowflake parts on everything, weak and underpowered. Honestly worse than basic bitch Black & Decker or flavor of the month chink shit.
Perfect example of what the kids call "skill issue."

[Anonymous No.2841223]

>>2840336
Is "Professional" some gay catch-all name for unnamed products?

[Anonymous No.2841241]

>>2840336
makita bros...

[Anonymous No.2841244]

>>2840336
>The Bosch company accepted armaments contracts and employed an estimated 20,000 slaves (including some 1200 concentration camp inmates who were "brutally abused at the Langenbielau plant") during the war.

[Anonymous No.2841266]

>>2840623
The oven loses heat if there is even a slight presence of moisture so cooking anything takes 2x longer than it should and the ice maker will not allow you to just take out ice easily and the dispenser has no nozzle so it sprays ice all over the floor no matter how near your glass is to it. It's also thr loudest icemaker I have ever heard both when dumping a new batch and when corkscrewing the ice.

[Anonymous No.2841295]

>>2840605
Im in the market for one of their paint scrapers, strange how the chinks didnt rip of that one yet

[Anonymous No.2841387]

>Festool
>Good
People actually fall for that German scam?

[Sieg Heil !NP2jUmGKeo No.2841394]

>>2841244
where can i buy bosch tools?

[Anonymous No.2841410]

>>2840596
Delusional europeon.
I have two metabo tools: a cordless drill/driver and a planetary-gear die grinder
Both of them have ludicrous amounts of runout. I can't even polish stuff well with the die grinder because it chatters uncontrollably. For any real task I bust out my $30 chief air die grinder from HF, which somehow manages to be more concentric than the $150 metabo garbage.

The drill is underpowered and the chuck attachment method is stupid. The beat up milwaukee at work is way better.

I will never buy another metabo tool. Fein on the other hand... their metal carbide chop saw is worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.2841436]

>>2841062
Just because these two invented popular power tools, doesn't mean they are any good. Just like Dremel

[Anonymous No.2841437]

>>2841436
Fein is indeed very very good, lurk moar.

[Anonymous No.2841438]

>>2841410
their newer angle grinders, their 4 speed drills, their metal chop saw, and their multitools are definitely head and shoulders above the rest. are the prices high and possibly not justified? probably, but they are definitely high quality stuff that last a long time (hopefully).

[Anonymous No.2841465]

>>2841394
You can't. That's why they're so good.

[Anonymous No.2841470]

>>2841387
Name something bad about them, besides price.

[Anonymous No.2841474]

>>2841244
Wtf i love bosch now

[Anonymous No.2841574]

>>2841410
>I have two metabo tools: a cordless drill/driver and a planetary-gear die grinder
>Both of them have ludicrous amounts of runout. I can't even polish stuff well with the die grinder because it chatters uncontrollably. For any real task I bust out my $30 chief air die grinder from HF, which somehow manages to be more concentric than the $150 metabo garbage.
>The drill is underpowered and the chuck attachment method is stupid. The beat up milwaukee at work is way better.

Are you very retarded or mildly retarded and making up bad lies? All metabo die-grinders have ER style double slit precision ground collets, aluminium spindle housings and precision ball bearings. For them to have any runout past 0,01mm is unthinkable.
You're probably using low-quality attachments or somehow ripped the collet out of the captive nut and not re-seated it properly.

The metabo drill lineup covers anything from tiny 12V for assembling furniture to 130Nm monster drills for assembling large timber installation. If yours is underpowered you bought wrong, which is your fault since the metabo catalogue tells you SPECIFICLY what drill size can handle which drill and screwing job.

[Anonymous No.2841581]

>>2841574
>130nm drill is a monster

Lmao pathetic bosch drill is 150nm

[Anonymous No.2841626]

>>2841581
nobody needs that torque on a fucking drill in the first place
>t. owner of an older ~120nm bosch

[Anonymous No.2841629]

>>2841626
>im to poor to upgrade so ill make up stuff

[Anonymous No.2841687]

>>2841581
Not to compare dick sizes, but red team's 2904 4th Gen one can do 160 N.m and is more compact than the Bosch.

[Anonymous No.2841724]

>>2841687
Seek help adhd kid

[Anonymous No.2841820]

>>2841574
The metabo ltx has a 3rd high speed gear which is actually usefull on a drill and mostly absent on other brands. unlike the torque pissing contest