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/diy/ - Do It Yourself

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283027 No.283027 [Reply] [Original]

ok /diy/ i've been lurking for a bit and i i think this will get interesting. the DIY project of the day is.... Self Surgery. do it at home edition.

>> No.283030

cmon guys... nothing?

>> No.283032

i'm actually quite serious you know.

>> No.283033

what kind of surgery? you know that this already sounds like a horrible idea

>> No.283034

anykind from minor to major. and yes i do realise.

>> No.283035

seriously only one taker? =\

>> No.283037

Well, I've heard of people giving themselves stitches when they were unable to get to a doctor. So I would think simple things like that you could do. Anything more that you really don't have the training or education for will be an absolute disaster. There are SO SO SO many things that could go wrong. You don't have the proper tools let alone sterilization. You're gonna give yourself a nasty infection or gangrene.

>> No.283050

You know OP, MRSA is a thing....

>> No.283104

>>283027
>mfw
http://boombotix.com/skullyblog/2012/05/22/tattoo-artist-implants-magnets-in-his-wrist-to-make-strap
less-nano-watch/

>> No.283131

i've opened fairly deep boils with a scalpel before. that's as far as i've had to go. dunno if that counts. f-off.

>> No.283132

enjoy your sepsis

>> No.283143

>surgery for the sake of surgery

>> No.283151

>>283035
>>283034
>>283032
>>283030
>>283027

>"I've been lurking for a bit"
>5 posts in 16 minutes, why only 1 reply

This isn't /b/. Replies trickle in slow as hell. Lurking for a while doesn't gain any more help or respect from /diy/ers. Your incorrect unneccesary shit makes you appear dumb.

>> No.283152

>>283143
pretty much.

>> No.283154

>>283027
Actually, while we're on this (ostensibly silly) subject:
I've got a hematoma the size of a flattened-out tennis ball on my hip from a cycling accident that may need to be drained in the near future if it doesn't drain on it's own. Anybody ever done this? I've had to have it done once before for a hematoma on my leg, and it seems like a simple procedure, assuming I can get my hands on some injectible lidocaine and sterile syringes/needles and scalpel..

>> No.283166

>>283104
I've actually been planning to insert neodymium magnets into at least one finger tip (inspired by lepht anonym). I have all the materials, and even went the extra mile and got lidocaine solution from a veterinary supply (I initially was just going to use ice + drugs and have a friend do the operation). Now I just need to learn proper local anesthesia procedure and pick up syringes, and I am good to go.
going to be cool

>> No.283192

My brother once cut open our friend's hand with a chef's knife while we were drinking and I had to glue the guy's finger back together with gorilla glue. Drunk /diy/ surgery.

>> No.283199

I worked with a guy who used to be a lumberjack and he cut himself pretty badly (cut about an inch down into his arm and 4 inches along) out in the middle of forest, literally miles from medical help.
They (him and a partner) washed the cut out with vodka and superglued it shut and then wrapped a shirt sleeve around his arm.
With that they were able to stop the bleeding and everything until the emergency guys got out to him (the next morning).

>> No.283213

>>283166
Enjoy your heavy-metal poisoning death.

>> No.283242

>>283154
nononono do not try to medicate yourself unless you know what you are doing. If you want to attempt to drain it, I am all for that, just make sure you clean the area well (Iodine swabs are medically preferred, but alcohol can work too) And make sure you are using a clean needle if you must. Any knife can be used instead of going through the trouble of getting a scalpel, but its gonna hurt. In my opinion, as an EMT who sees this shit all the time, and does this shit to myself all the time, i would go get yours looked at by a doc. If its that big and thick as you describe, you can pose some serious risk of infection.

>> No.283341

>>283242
If I could afford to go to a doctor's office and have them do it, don't you think I'd do that? I can't, and if it comes down to it needing to be done I may have to do it myself!

>> No.283343

Self-surgery is needed for the kind of silicone-wrapped neodymium implants that I want to do, eventually.

>> No.283357

>>283166

Why, though?

>> No.283436

>>283213
Yes, that is a concern. The magnets will be encased in a layer of sugru.
see http://discuss.biohack.me/discussion/5/neodymium-implant-procedure/p1

>>283357
Because it's cool.

>> No.283448

>>283166
Neodymium magnets are so strong that they will attract the iron in your blood, eventually leading to a blood clot. Seriously, don't do this. The same effect could be seen if you strapped a very powerful magnet to the underside of your wrist for a couple weeks or so. Again, don't ever fucking do this, you'll get a blood clot.

Ignore the bullshit conspiracy theory crap in the following video. The reason the piece of cereal follows the magnet around is because the magnet so strong, that it's attracting the iron in the cereal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Ba1Muc_Fc

>> No.283453

>>283154
you might be best off with a sharp scalpel and a can of dermaplast. its 50 percent benzocaine. spray on, let sit, then poke. wring it all out. you may want to pack it with gauze.

>> No.283534

>>283027
>Murrica fuck yeah
Cant afford DA surgery

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3 weeks ago

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5 mins ago

self treated

>> No.283570

a few years ago I got some kind of skin infection on my forearm up onto the side of my hand. it itched and burned like hell and drove me nuts in class. I couldn't afford to go to the doc, so I just let it be until I noticed some tunneling and freaked the fuck out. ended up carefully carving the infection out with a sterilized knife, no anesthetics. I cleaned the wounds with hydrogen peroxide and applied liberal neosporin, three weeks later only mild scarring. today you can't even tell it was ever there.

>> No.283571

>>283563
Your finger nails are so dirty. Wash your damn hands.

>> No.283572

This thread reminds me why it is some awesome to be British and have COMPLETELY FUCKING FREE MEDICAL CARE JESUS CHRIST.

The idea that anyone outside of the third world is sitting around thinking "Hmm, I wonder if I can perform incredibly dangerous, potentially fatal home surgery in order to avoid the horrendous costs of basic medical care" is fucking monstrous.

>> No.283574

>>283572
Completely free eh?
I'm sure your surgeons love getting paid in table scraps.

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>>283213

>> No.283577

>>283572
Meh, several surgeons do brain surgery with black and decker equipment. Of course, 6 years at uni + 3 years internship helps a bit.


>>283563
That's some good growth.
Not really a fan of the "dirty nails on open cut" though.

>> No.283578

>>283570
>flesh eating streptococcus infection
>cuts it out with a knife at home
You're lucky as fuck man.

>> No.283579

>>283577
>Meh, several surgeons do brain surgery with black and decker equipment. Of course, 6 years at uni + 3 years internship helps a bit.

Sureons use black and decker equipment to break open the skull, you're an imbecile if you think they actually use it to operate on a brain.

>> No.283581

>>283579
Well obviously why the fuck would they use power tools for delicate slicing? Point is, they even use hand held drills on hospitals, it's not fucking science fiction.

>> No.283580

>>283570
have any pics?

>> No.283583

>>283581
Point is, what is your fucking point? You seem to be implying that if you have a black and decker you can perform brain surgery on yourself, safely, competently and with no risk of infection.

>> No.283584

>>283583
Are you fucking retarded? My point is that money and equipment is not the major factor in terms of safely performing surgery. Give a surgeon shit level equipment, and he'll still do well.
Of course prostate surgery can get a bit kinky

>> No.283585

>>283584
Therefore the OP should totally perform self surgery because clearly, he's a well trained surgeon with years of experience.

>> No.283589

>>283585
Because this is a very complicated surgery

>> No.283591

>>283589
This is what happens to your brain when you don't have free healthcare.

>> No.283594

>>283591
Implying I can't perform the surgery? Should've seen my warhammer figures.

>> No.283687

>>283571
zuk muh dick you metro sexual faggot.

>> No.283695

I'm not even replying to this for anything DIY related.


But Fuck. Yes. Zombie Powder.

>> No.283699

There was once a Russian doctor who performed an appendectomy on himself.
But he was both Russian and a doctor. You are neither, so I'd say stick to the simple stuff like stitching up cuts.

>> No.283703

>>283699

As an anon currently recovering from said operation, I can attest to this guys... well, stupidly high pain threshold, complete insanity or astronomically sized balls.

>> No.283707

Simple things like sutures (or skin staples) for deep wounds or incision and drainage of an abscess are relatively safe... Superglue works very well as a suture material.

There isn't much else I'd try outside of a hospital unless forced to do so... I've heard of chest tubes being inserted with wire coat-hangers and catheters and tracheotomies done with ball-point pens (although a large gauge fenestrated needle would be better). But those procedures are relatively straight forward and do not require and major "cut down" or opening of body cavities.

The risk for infection is extremely high...

>> No.283740

>>283707
Risk of infection is certain for suture, skin staples, deep wounds, incision, and drainage of abscess. You need to flush with iodine and take antibacterial medicine even to treat those relatively minor wounds. If you do not you are going medieval and betting that your body can beat the infection. Protip: There is a huge chance it will not, and you will either die or end up in the hospital where they amputate a limb or two.

>> No.283741

>>283740
>taking antibiotics for slight wounds
Genius

>> No.283742

>>283687
Wash your hands. What are you, a medieval serf who has no idea why disease spreads?

>> No.283744

>>283572
protip: America is the third world.

>> No.283748

>>283741
A suture is not a "slight wound." Putting an antibacterial solution on broken skin is smart and that is a slight wound. Or are you just one of those retarded cartoon characters who thinks he can ignore reality because it makes him feel mortal? This behavior is self-limiting.

>> No.283749

>>283748
I'm the cartoon characters who's not retarded enough to abuse antibiotics, risking antibiotic resistance.

>> No.283755

>>283749
You're a hippy cartoon character who thinks saving human life is an "abuse" of antibiotics. I have a medical certification and a scope and I understand the concept of antibacterial abuse, and you have none of these things. Force-feeding millions of healthy cows causes antibacterial resistance. Turning the homeless out on the street before their TB is cured causes antibacterial resistance. Millions of people living in close proximity with little sanitation as in India causes antibacterial resistance. Antibacterial soaps used daily by healthy people causes antibacterial resistance. Applying neosporin to a cut does not cause antibacterial resistance. Taking antibacterials when you have a bacterial infection does not cause antibacterial resistance, it saves your fucking life.

>> No.283757

>>283755
>medical certification
If you don't understand taking antibiotics for suture, skin staples, incisions, and drainage of abscess - as a precaution, someone needs to take your "certification", right now.

>> No.283767

>>283757
I do understand their use. You do not. I have the education. You do not. I made an argument. You did not. I also understand the legal issues regarding the spread of medical misinformation. Do you? Or are you just some garbage whose education consists of "I thought about it for a few minutes" and whose peer review consists of "I won an internet argument about it by ignoring what other people said until they did something more constructive with their lives than talk to me."

>> No.283768

>>283767
Medical certification doesn't mean shit you imbecile. You can get a medical certification as a fucking massage therapist.
I intern at my father's firm, he's a specialist in primary care. So was his fathers before him, and my mother - and even my sister is taking up her med. studies. And I do question your understanding of medicine when you claim " Taking antibacterials when you have a bacterial infection does not cause antibacterial resistance, it saves your fucking life."


>I also understand the legal issues regarding the spread of medical misinformation.
lel

>I made an argument
You presented a list of facts, actually very irrelevant in this case - and you proceeded to use several posts repeating your ignorant ad hominem.
What you need to do, is revise your understanding of practical use of precautionary medicine, look up the guidance given to your local hospitals, and shut the fuck up.

>> No.283800

This whole thread is retarded.
All of you need to fuck off back to /pol/ and /b/

Also, OP, you emo blood-fetishist twat, do not cut into yourself unless you genuinely know what you're doing. If you badly need to modify your dumb ass, at least find a med student or some shit, jesus.

>> No.283817

I once tripped face first onto a concrete slab and opened a wound from the tip of my chin to my neck. It tore through all sorts of shit, and being the dumbass I was, I mopped up the blood, bandaged my skin into a relatively flat mess again (so the two sides and all the floppy muscle shit stopped hanging out) and just wore this bandage for 2 months. I looked like an idiot.

I didn't get an infection, but I have one hell of a scar. The body does its own healing!

>> No.283826

>>283563
>thumb
>>283562
>thumb is out of picture

>> No.283849

I sliced off a big chunk of my fingertip, left index finger, starting at the top and going down about about a 45 degree angle. I held it in place with a pair of band-aids, one over the top, one going around that to stop it moving sideways, and it healed up fine in a few weeks with only a slight drop in sensation. I'm not sure having it stitched would have produced a better result.

>> No.283851

>>283436

Why is it cool? What can you do with it?

>> No.283872

Eurofags think their free health Care covers voluntary unnecessary hazardous surgery like putting magnets under your skin.
People think hemoglobin is magnetic because it has iron in it. It's part of a complex molecule which is over almost totally non polar. Your blood isn't magnetic. Attaching a magnet to you won't do shit.

Do you believe in troll threads. Gif

>> No.283881

Grinder here. Body modification and self surgery are pretty much our thing.

you will like this (friend of mine):
http://vimeo.com/23836862#at=0

I met a woman named Poppy at a party once who removed here own tonsils. Tha'ts fucking hardcore.

>> No.283908

Americans clap when they over pay for healthcare

>> No.283910

>>283872
>Eurofags think their free health Care covers voluntary unnecessary hazardous surgery like putting magnets under your skin.

Try going to a hospital in the UK with magnets under your fingers and infected wounds.
They'll remove them, call you retarded and tell you mot to do it again. They don't refuse people treatment the first time, no matter how retarded they are.

Try pulling that shit a third time they'll probably just let you die though. Or have you sanctioned.

>> No.284054

I had an abrasion on my gum that was just hanging over the outside of my molars for about two years. It was just extra tissue from my gum, so I decided to go to the dentist to see what they could do about it. Dumbass dentist could have cut off the abrasion in under 5 minutes but instead, tries to send me to an oral surgeon. So I'm like fuck it, I'll save a couple hundred bucks and do it myself. I got some numbing goo from a hospital and some surgical equipment and prepared myself for the procedure. I put the surgical blade in my mouth and cut off that shit like a boss. Didn't hurt a bit and barely bled at all. That was the day I said "fuck you" to the medical system.

>> No.284117

>>283755
I hope someone already said this, but antibiotic and antibacterial are very different things mister doctor sir.

>> No.284133

>>283594
orly? not the guy you were t[alking to but I just came here from /tg/, I wanna see them.

>> No.284309

>>283872
>>283910
Dear non-britfags:

If you're a British national, the NHS covers any and all necessary health requirements, including gender re-assignment and repair of the hymen. If you get magnets under your skin repeatedly, they investigate your workplace/send you to counselling etc. not sectioned/refuse treatment, as it's illegal to refuse treatment to a non-violent patient

>> No.284328

Trepanation. People used to do it all the time their selves. It involves cutting a small triangular peice of the skull out. Google it and you will find more info then you really want, I'm sure

>> No.285184

>>283448
I'll look into the clot issue. I've never heard of that being a risk, even from people who have had the implants for months, but thinking about it, I don't know why it wouldn't cause clots.

>>283851
Can sense EM fields. The fingertips are one of the few places on the body sensitive enough to detect the force on the magnetic implants.

>> No.286462

>>283563
>>283562
I remember seeing that, ive done similar.

Also had a gash going from one side of my center knuckle to the other, deep, on index. Superglue FTW. Happened during a party, came back from store and drank some more. Then everyone got on the floor and did the dinosaur

>> No.286464

>>286462
It took a few applications to completely stop the flow, eventually it healed and i removed the finger formed glueblood cap in two sections, looked kinda like a barnacle. Now ive got iodine pads, glue, steristrips, etc

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Colonoscopy anyone?

>> No.286648

I once dug a sliver out of my palm with out even consulting a dermatologist. Too bad it got infected and I died later that day.

I want complete control over my body, no fucking doctor gonna do any kind of non emergency surgery on me with out me fully understanding what the fuck he is up to.

I also hate oral antibiotics, topical is best intravenous next but I fucking hate oral. My gut flora is precious to me. You take too much oral antibiotics and you have to get a shit enema from a family member to get a healthy guts again.