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2789714 No.2789714 [Reply] [Original]

I had to replace the compressor on this thing after 6 years, would like to extend the life of this one. The thing switches it on and off too quickly, under 5 minutes, I've heard this is bad for the compressor, you should wait around 10-15 minutes after turning it off to turn it back on again. It switches that quick because I have a window open and an exhaust fan running 24x7 for important reasons. It still cools down the room very well. How can I change it's logic and set a minimum time before the compressor kicks in?

>> No.2789726

>How can I change it's logic

not a snowball's chance in hell
you can only work around it
ex.: set the unit to max cold and use external thermostat to activate the remote to switch it on/off

>> No.2789738
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2789738

>>2789726
>not a snowball's chance in hell

Modifying the factory logic yes, but adding your own controller might be possible if OP is truly a /diy/ guy. I've never modified an AC unit, but aren't they just one or two fans and a compressor? Add one or two temperature sensors and a microcontroller and SSRs and have fun.

>> No.2789767

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hvac+hysteresis&ia=web

>> No.2789771

>>2789714
are physically hitting the on/off switch on the remote/mhk2? the unit doesnt ever actually shut off, it just goes into a very low state to meet the setpoint.

>> No.2789816

>>2789714
i hate these room AC units for that reason - they try to maintain an exact temperature by switching on and off too quickly which is really annoying - it would be better if it tolerated a wider temperature range by remaining off for a longer period ... here's a guy who added one for external unit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_Yk5Ld558

>> No.2789818

>>2789714
take it apart, find thermistor and wrap in in foil tape or foam or something
slow down how fast the temp sensor can sense changes in temperature

>> No.2789832

>>2789816
this is not an inverter condenser. this trick will not work. they dont have contactors like normal split systems, everything runs off the inverter board.

>> No.2790021

>>2789714
>because I have a window open and an exhaust fan running 24x7 for important reasons
Grow your weed somewhere else.

>> No.2790028

>>2790021
Exactly. Original post stinks. No good.

>> No.2790049

>>2789714
Set it to max, if it’s on its own circuit install a wifi breaker. The app will have a loop timer.

>> No.2790104

>>2789832
It does have a contactor that is used to switch on the compressor. Any sane ideas on what I could do with that?

>> No.2790151

>>2789714
get an inverter unit poorfag
>>2790104
whatever the fuck you want then since it's clearly not an inverter it just has 2 states, on or off

>> No.2790216

>>2790104
Lmao this dude out here with the mr cool minishit. Get a real AC.

>> No.2790222

>>2789726
>set the unit to max cold and use external thermostat to activate the remote to switch it on/off

This is totally doable with home automation. But it would require some overhead cost if you don't already have any home automation already in place.

I'm running a Home Assistant server, so all I'd need is a smart outlet and a temperature sensor to make this work pretty easily.

Seems like it would be easier than >>2789738

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2790246

>>2789714
>>2789726
Nah, it's EZ.
>find a room thermistor
>not the coil thermistor retard, leave that one alone
>splice in a resistor+relay in parallel to it, IDK 10kohm or so
>experiment negro, resistors are cheap, you can even add a pot
>set ac to high temp, something like 30c/90f
>have an external logic board control the relay
>when relay closes the ac thinks temperature in your room is suddenly over 9000 and kick on

>> No.2790275

>>2789714
replace the starter lockout device. the delay is never in the logic but controlled by the starter itself.

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2790936

>>2790246
I think this is my best option, to create my own temprature control circuit and hook it up to where the thermoresistor connects on the board. Connecting the pins to a lower and higher resistance resistor to switch the compressor ON or OFF. How do I get an arduino or something to do the following-
1. Measure resitance of the thermoresistor
2. Connect the pins on the board to a different resistor when thermoresistor reaches a target
3. Wait 15 minutes before checking to see if whether it should turn the compressor ON by switching the relays to the higher resistance resistor

>> No.2790964

>>2790246
>>2790936

Are you guys retarded or just bored? The system already has controls. Just break the voltage going to the contractors coil with a time delay relay

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2790985

>>2790964
I am actually retarded. What are the odds that this hong kong ching chong bomb blows up my AC?

>> No.2791326

>>2790985
>blows up my AC
absolutely nothing actually
it itself may blow up if it cannot handle the current but it should handle it because most split ACs won't draw over 10A unless they are especially big
unless the relay is full of shit but once again, the chink relay may melt to shit but the AC won't be harmed

>> No.2791332

>>2790216
>Get a real AC.
what about a mini split is not "real AC"
it's far closer to a central unit than a window unit
they made over 30K BTU even but I struggle to see quite where you'd use one that big

>> No.2791371

I've never seen a modern inverter mini-split actually turn off its compressor under normal usage, unless you manually change the set temperature. They usually start at high speed, ramp down a bit while cooling/heating and then once the temperature setpoint comes close start slowing down the compressor gradually, until they reach equilibrium, after which point they maintain that very slow speed.

Non-inverter ACs are either 20 years old or US windows/central air units.

>> No.2791385

>>2791332
Any minisplit that isnt an inverter, ie using a contactor, is not a real ac. Its real chinkshit. If op is so concerned about his conpressor he should get a brand with something to stand behind.

>> No.2791514

>>2791326
I'm only going to wire it up so that it disconnects the signal wire to the main contactor running the compressor. No way this little shit can handle anything close to 10A.

>> No.2791524

>>2789714
Check your thermostat.

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>>2789714
>It switches that quick because I have a window open and an exhaust fan running 24x7 for important reasons. It still cools down the room very well.

well, theres your problem retard... its detecting a change in temperature and turning the compressor on... its doing exactly what it was designed to do. they dont design these so retarded idiots can just leave windows open and expect it to KEEP the room cool.

I bet you have the window open and exhaust fan cause you smokin weed all day or growing the shit. fuck you, dont blame the appliance for not working properly when you are the cause of it.