Tractor thread

[Anonymous No.2749319]

/diy/ edition
Feels good when stuff runs right.

[Anonymous No.2749340]

How broke dick can one person be ?
Showing off some ancient tractor retired by the state. Where you at hillbilly, looks like Tennessee

[Anonymous No.2749357]

>>2749340
Dumb bicycle riding yank

[Anonymous No.2749393]

>>2749340
Says the person that has no land. Why are you so poor and jelly?

[Anonymous No.2749400]

>>2749319
this looks ok.
some older tractors with a tiny seat 16" from the massise back tires with no fenders look like you'd be asking to get Jeremy Rennner'd

i wonder how many farmer died or were horribly maimed by falling off the tractor seat and getting jammed and run over under the back tires

[Anonymous No.2749408]

>>2749400
It's ~8 ft wide with 18.4-30s on the rear you do the math. also it weights ~4.2tons and goes 24.9mph with unassisted disk brakes (I hope I have those and not the bands) It has a transverse leaf spring in the front to help on the road. The first version of this the champion 6g topped out at 30mph with only 45hp drawbar pull.

[Anonymous No.2749560]

>>2749393
You assume my petulant little friend

[Anonymous No.2749605]

>>2749408
I only have a ford 8N on the property. Tiny by comparison. Runs great.

[Anonymous No.2749619]

>>2749560
Burden of proof is on you. The fact that you are browsing 4chan does not bode well...

[Anonymous No.2749715]

>>2749605
it's only half the tractor by no means tiny.

[Anonymous No.2749748]

Solid looking workhorse, you find it online or an auction? Just needed a basic service? Looking at houses now and a few properties come with >15 Acres so I'm thinking of something like pic rel, used, cheap and reliable.

[Anonymous No.2749750]

>>2749748
Facebook, gauges, fluids, tyres brake and pto clutch adjustment and then hunt down the leaks man.
Cheap 135s are few and far between although I did come across a 35x with a horndraulic loader for $3500au I don't know how it is in the states.

[Anonymous No.2749761]

>>2749750
I don't know what brand is gud desu I just jumped on gumtree and looked for ones under 10k, If I can pick up something with a bucket and a slasher for half that, even better.

[Anonymous No.2749776]

>>2749761
(Massey) Ferguson, Case(international), (case)International, Ford(son), Nuffields (and Leylands) seem alright but have their quirks that let them down, Fiat, old deutz (fahr)s, SAME, Kubota, New Holland (formally fiat and ford), older John Deeres, David brown, (MTZ) Belarus (parts might be a problem), Landini, Mccormick.

In general most tractors will be reliable if looked after and All major manufacturers have always produced excellent tractors except for a few hiccups (Early power shift transmissions).
What you will want to look for is live hydraulics live pto (either two stage clutch or independent) draft control if you plan on doing tillage work, auxiliary/remote hydraulics and diesel powered (most tractors today) with good cold starting or functional glow plugs or thermostart. Petrol is fine but you'll notice that you'll chew through fuel.

Line up a few tractors in your budget and do research on them.

[Anonymous No.2749840]

Trip 3's and I pull the trigger on a new plow tractor. Dealer price will be a good bit better than MSRP. If i order now I will be lucky to have it for fall fieldwork.

[Anonymous No.2749860]

>>2749840
Wait why does he have duals on only one side?
Doesn't make sense on an articulated

[Anonymous No.2749886]

>>2749860
You are a retard. Look closer

[Anonymous No.2749914]

>>2749886
Wait I am

[Anonymous No.2749927]

How do I get into one of these? Is there some place to buy them second-hand? Out in the Ohio Valley area. But conceptually could trailer it from one of the central state areas that are more likely to have resellers.

> t. vet waiting for his payout, with a lot of trees to fell

[Anonymous No.2750360]

>>2749776
Duly noted, long way to go yet I'm only just looking at properties atm but a man can dream.

[Anonymous No.2750421]

>>2750360
Some else to add, I've been told that Belarus has had quality control issues so survivor bias is going for those that have lasted this long.

[Anonymous No.2750656]

>>2749927
That guy has to be the picture perfect meth user if I have ever seen one...

[Anonymous No.2750670]

>>2749927
2-5 grams

[Anonymous No.2750671]

>>2750656
You’ve never seen one

[Anonymous No.2752179]

>>2749927
Just web search "(thing) used prices" and there are plenty of sellers. Truck stops etc have free machinery trade papers. Study a while and get on contractor forums to find out what is good.

How many acres to fell and what are the other particulars? Study what loggers in your area use. If you want to make money it may be wiser to lease so compare terms, or to buy older equipment. Have some money handy and check out equipment auctions.

Have a way beforehand to move what you buy because transport is expensive. What size truck and equipment trailer do you own or have access to?

[Anonymous No.2752510]

Seems like the best thread to ask this:
I want to build/modify something to act as a small scale logging skidder.
I want to end up with something under 1,2m wide, and with low ground pressure and ground tearing.
It should be under 1ton empty, ideally sub 750kg.

My options are:
-standard mini tractor (Kubota 7000 or similar)

-articulated mini tractor

-track driven mini dumper

I like the mini dumper the most since they are pretty cheap and have the lowest ground pressure since they're tracked, but if used for skidding it's oriented the wrong way.
Is there an easy way to turn the controls around on one of those, or is it easy enough to operate just looking over your shoulder?
Also any ideas or tips in general?

[Anonymous No.2752653]

>>2752510
First of all wtf are you even going to be able to skid with a 1 ton machine? Christmas trees from the cut-your-own tree lot?

You could probably reverse the operator station especially if it is all hydaulic. Never really been around one of those though.

[Anonymous No.2752684]

>>2752653
skidding maybe up to 1 ton trees, at 50cm diameter that should get me to 10m.
It needs to lift the face of the tree off the ground obviously, so I'm not working against that.
This is all for firewood production, not for professional grade timber, so I don't care about getting the most productive machine, just making my job of dragging out trees easier while keeping soil destruction to a minimum.

[Anonymous No.2752691]

>>2752653
Also, a 800kg machine has a load capacity of 1ton+, so I figured if it can carry it it can drag it as well.
If that doesn't work, or if its too complex to maneuver the long logs, it could go down to 400-500kg per log.

[Anonymous No.2752692]

>>2752691
Could also look into old trenchers with worn out stingers. Some of them are articulated steer and you could rig up a boom or arch on the back and winch...

[Anonymous No.2752695]

>>2752510
check out steiner tractors. they're oversized 4wd lawnmowers, but built like tanks. super low ground pressure when dualed out

[Anonymous No.2752734]

>>2752510
If you already have the option of buying a compact/mini tractor why not look into a forwarding trailer?
You could also use a older 45 horse tractor for better bang for buck. You would be able to pull a larger trailer and the crane hydraulics would be powered from the pto.

[Anonymous No.2752920]

>>2752692
That's a great idea, I'll keep an eye out for those.

>>2752695
Those are pretty neat, sadly they haven't made their way over to my side of the pond yet.
Alternatives would be older articulated mini tractors like Holder.

>>2752734
Those are great if you're transporting the logs for a long-ish way on them, but I only really need to drag them for <200m to the forest road, since I need to drive them home over the open road.
Seems like a lot of handling and expense just to drive it that far.
My pipeline would be:
-felling
-delimbing and bucking to manageable length (5m~)
-pre-skidding to the skidroads
-skidding to the forest road
-bucking to firewood length
-loading on trailer
-driving home

[Anonymous No.2752924]

>>2752734
Ah, and I forgot: the sub 1ton goal is not just for the soil's sake, it's also because I need to trailer the machine to the forest since it's a good drive away from where I live. That's also why a tractor plus trailer is hard to do for me.
And before you ask: yes, this is still somehow very cost effective, because our energy prices are insane.

[Anonymous No.2752937]

>>2752924
Skidding dolly would be my next choice.
Sorry I didn't think about weight.

[Anonymous No.2752939]

>>2752937
Oh, that's neat! That should reduce dragging resistance a good amount. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.2753016]

r8/br8

[Anonymous No.2753231]

>>2749340
>looks like Tennessee
How geographically illiterate can one be?

[Anonymous No.2753255]

>>2753016
>unmarked chinkshit
Buy a used case or jcb

[Anonymous No.2753346]

>>2753255
don't want to spend that much cash on personal farm equipment

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.2753347]

>>2749319
The killdozer you have at home bs the killdozer she told you not to worry about

[Anonymous No.2753352]

>>2753346
So buy a used case, international, jcb, ford, deere or massey ferguson backhoe

[Anonymous No.2753357]

>>2753352
I literarily found at least 5 for under 10k.

[Anonymous No.2753406]

new tires, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.2753431]

>>2753357
Where?

[Anonymous No.2753433]

>>2753357
liar

[Anonymous No.2753435]

>>2753406
very nice anon

[Anonymous No.2753476]

>>2753431
>>2753433
Original text got spam filtered lol.

[Anonymous No.2753478]

>>2753406
Nice mix of lug and lawn tire

[Anonymous No.2753666]

How bad are mechanical joysticks for backhoes? Should I opt for hydraulic control?

[Anonymous No.2753686]

>>2753666
The joystick would just be operating two spool valves anyway. I'd go with joysticks and a valve block that can run multiple rams at once if you have enough hydraulic flow to run them.

[Anonymous No.2753694]

>>2753666
>mechanical joysticks for backhoes? Should I opt for hydraulic control?

What are you even saying here? Most backhoes are going to be spool valves. Some of them each function has it's own stick, a lot of them have two functions on one stick because it can move forward and back, left and right. The 4 way stick would be my preference.

If you are talking about pilot hydraulics, that would be on newer stuff and more common on excavators as far as I know, although some of the newer backhoes probably have them as well. If you're wanting cheap, simple, and reliable, go with the old mechanical spool valves

[Anonymous No.2753747]

>>2753694
>What are you even saying here?
>pilot hydraulics
this
>If you're wanting cheap, simple, and reliable, go with the old mechanical spool valves
understood, thanks
>>2753686
gotcha

[Anonymous No.2755359]

i love my lil nigga

[Anonymous No.2755432]

>>2755359
how easily can it dig rocky compacted soil?

[Anonymous No.2755437]

>>2755432
seems to work fine in pure fucking clay what my property is
my buckets have the teeth in them so that helps too

[Anonymous No.2755573]

>>2750671
Oh no friend. I’ve seen PLENTY of guys. Believe me.

[Anonymous No.2756279]

>>2755359
Loader looks like a Baas.

[Anonymous No.2756513]

>>2756279
if i had to guess it's OG nipponfoldedover9000times steel loader
haven't seen any markings on it not that i care
works well but could be a bit faster with moves, could slap bigger pump or atleast service the valvebody to see if that affects it
done the seals on loader cylinders, 3pt tilt and 3pt lift, cleaned the radiator as that was all gunked up
other than those repairs she's been fine with just oil changes
i'd say she's been worth the 7.9k€ i paid

[Anonymous No.2756534]

>>2756279
Cool dolly.

[Anonymous No.2757744]

Thoughts on putting a vehicle speed limit sticker on my tractor? Only use would be broadcasting my top speed. I would add a smv triangle but apparently they are illegal in Australia.

[Anonymous No.2757747]

>>2749319
What backwards county in Tennessee is this worn out tractor in

[Anonymous No.2757767]

>>2749408
I checked the brakes, I have bands, they stopped pretty good unloaded despite the noticeable pull though.

[Anonymous No.2757769]

>>2757747
How stupid can this tractorlet be?

[Anonymous No.2757866]

I have to admit I am a complete tractor neophyte. I bought an older Kubota w/o hydrostatic drive, and got a huge manual but no basic troubleshooting guide. Have not been able to start it since the first two times I ran it, despite keeping it covered and on a trickle charger. Yes, it is winter, Yes I am heating the glow plugs for over a minute, yes it has good diesel fuel. Even so, it just clicks pathetically when I crank it.
Any guesses what I am doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.2757935]

Tennessee?

[Anonymous No.2757936]

>>2757866
Fuels gelld

[Anonymous No.2757939]

Tractors are cool

[Anonymous No.2757952]

Tractors are for old fat guys that wear bib overalls

[Anonymous No.2757968]

>>2757866
battery is weak and/or the terminals are shitty. if the cables are corroded where they are crimped to the lugs, it won't matter how good your battery is.

[Anonymous No.2757976]

>>2757968
The previous owner had two smaller tractor batteries hooked up in parallel with some weird bridge thing with little springlike coils screwed to a board, so I've been afraid to touch it/them.

[Anonymous No.2757980]

>>2757936
Diesel doesn't do that in less than six months at sea level in Zone 8

[Anonymous No.2758111]

>>2757968
>battery is weak and/or the terminals are shitty. if the cables are corroded where they are crimped to the lugs, it won't matter how good your battery is.

This. If it's just clicking like you claim then you don't have good batteries or an extremely shitty connection to your batteries.

[Anonymous No.2758266]

>>2757968
>>2758111
Okay, thanks, folks- I will start by disconnecting and wire brushing the terminals and battery contacts. There's no power where the tractor is, so I'm going to have to drag the batteries somewhere else to charge them if that doesn't do it, so I've been avoiding it. Guess this is what I get for using a Hazard Fraught solar trickle charger instead of just taking the batteries home for winter.

[Anonymous No.2758318]

>>2758266
You can just charge them up off your car. Park right next to where the batteries are, then use jumper cables and connect them to your car. Let your car idle for like 20 or 30 minutes, and then try to start the tractor.

[Anonymous No.2758373]

Push the old pos up one of those Tennessee hills and coast down to jump start the pos
Then putt over to yer cuzins for some squeeze box akshun

[Anonymous No.2758374]

>>2753016
BASED

[Anonymous No.2758483]

Sorta related stupid question.

I'm looking for a budget "yard hauler" for dumb shit like rocks and wood I normally pull around in my gorilla cart.

Would getting something like this be retarded?

[Anonymous No.2758940]

>>2758318
>Park right next to where the batteries are,
I made the mistake of parking the tractor on the other side of a seasonal stream, to prevent easy theft. ...It is currently the season, and I don't drive an amphibious vehicle. ...Maybe that should be my next purchase. Sell the tractor and just get a Schwimmwagen.

[Anonymous No.2758947]

>>2758483
If it truly just needs a carb, that's a good deal. They're like $20 on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.2760927]

>>2753406
They look like they'll do the job.
I've got a 2004 cub cadet. Rear tires are dry rotted and needs replacing. It's got a single bolt threaded into axle holding wheels on. I've removed the bolt but the tires will not come off, tried everything. The bolt is out and I ran it all summer hoping the wheels would fall off but hasn't. Any body know the secret?

[Anonymous No.2760945]

>>2752692
>Could also look into old trenchers with worn out stingers.

Now I've been looking at a Davis 40+4 trencher for sale locally... She needs some work but has a Deutz Diesel engine. I don't need any more projects, but it's just sitting there needing some love.

[Anonymous No.2760960]

>>2758374
>ching chong ping pong

[Anonymous No.2760980]

>>2760927
heat and cold water+ air hammer
check taryl fixes all on juutuub

[Anonymous No.2762925]

behold, i have made a thing!

[Anonymous No.2762949]

>>2760960
huh¿

[Anonymous No.2762967]

>>2762949
que pasa?

[Anonymous No.2763091]

>>2762967
was¿

[Anonymous No.2763100]

why farm half, when you can farmall

[Anonymous No.2763120]

>>2763100
compared to this that's a steal.
Why the fuck are crawlers so expensive?

[Anonymous No.2763177]

>>2760980
Thanks.
I'll check that out. Willing to try anything.

[Anonymous No.2763181]

>>2763120
aussie prices are nuts. an old beater little dozer like that would be around $10k usd. the imported, narrow farming crawlers for vineyard work bring big bucks though

[Anonymous No.2763254]

>>2762925
Are you reversing all the time while snowblowing?

[Anonymous No.2763299]

>>2763254
not anymore and yes i was as it's smol 25hp tractor

[Anonymous No.2763311]

>>2750656
He's an orthobro who died sometime in the last year, shortly after that video where they take 2 HEXA chains and combine them for their 30" bar. That's where I saw traditional icons on his work bench. Makes me think orthodox. Beard etc. The gaunt figure (where you get the meth accusation from) is because they fast like vegans for 1/4 of the year. {Even plants feel pain, bro. You need meat, eggs.} Probably fucks with their brain development [The brain continues to develop well past teenage years].

'Hanger' limb dropped on his head. Was called 'inbred jed' on 'Guilty of treeson', a cringe channel title. I looked up, of course: reddit has eulogies. 'He was experienced'. Apparently not enough. Not safety-minded, which is part of well-grounded experience.

I watched a previous video of theirs about felling, before I heard anything about his death, and wasn't happy with their lack of a safe approach. Young guys stupidly getting close to a tree that's falling, to the stump to get a close-up. Reddit-tier lack of safety. Hint: There's a zoom feature on your camera for a reason. It made me not want to watch any more of their crap, but youtube had suggested that vid, and it had that skidsteer with the claw and tracks.

WTF was he under the work area for? He was a family man and a gofundme or givesendgo did well raising funds for his widow and (at least 1, I think 2) children.

+90% of workplace accidents and deaths happen to males. Males tend to take risks, without enough frontal lobe activity. And to your slight, meth and other drugs are a way to temporarily distract from a low-T, brain damaged mental environment. And that is the real issue; brain damage. Quite routine in the west to infants, on up. Which means less frontal lobe activity/control of the rest of the brain when engaging in any action, but most critically, risky ones.

[Anonymous No.2763345]

>>2763100
My wife was at an auction where a steiger bearcat with a 3208 caterpillar engine sold for $600. I was both slightly angry she didn't buy it for that price as well as relieved I didn't have to figure out a way to drag it home.

Also bought a john deere 8650 last summer for $23k and an international 4366 for $3k off a neighbor (it needs 8 new tires sometime in the near future).

[Anonymous No.2763346]

>>2763311
That is a lot of text to say guy who looked methed out died from dumb actions.

[Anonymous No.2763569]

>>2763346
And too few characters to have added anything meaningful to this thread.

[Anonymous No.2764890]

How important is is to change the hydraulic fluids regularly on my Ford 3230? I change the oil yearly but I've never touched the hydraulic fluids. My only experience on this topic was changing the fluids on a MF135 and the stuff that came out was like gravy and looked decades old. The tractor was fine before and after. The fluids on my ford--which is garage kept unlike the MF-- are perfectly crystal clear. I'm only putting like 40 hours a year on it so if it can make it a long time I'd prefer to not bother.

[Anonymous No.2765006]

>>2764890
probably fine to keep the old one in if it looks good
might want to swap the filter and open it up to see if there's some shit innit

[Anonymous No.2765022]

>>2764890
if it's inside and not run hard, hydraulic oil is almost nonconsumable. spin a new filter on every 250 hrs and pull a lab sample if you really care. otherwise just run it.

[Anonymous No.2765089]

>>2764890
Run it till it gets low and add more. If it gets nasty looking then change it. Usually there are enough leaks on equipment for hydraulic fluid to "change itself"

[Anonymous No.2767254]

bump going to start a general for the next thread

[Anonymous No.2768540]

>>2763100
>>2763345

sick. i just about picked up a stieger a few years back with a blown 3306. love those green motherfuckers.

[Anonymous No.2768603]

>>2768540
>sick. i just about picked up a stieger a few years back with a blown 3306. love those green motherfuckers.
There is one going up on a local auction here soon. Probably go for more than I want to pay, and I really don't need another big tractor. Have an 8630 John Deere, an 8650 John Deere that I picked up last summer, and a 4366 IH that I bought last summer as well. (Stieger actually made the 4366 for International)

I actually just fired up the ol 8630 the other day and hooked it to the mulcher because I need to roll some fields and get some water started asap. Fixed a flat on the mulcher and pulled the exhaust stack off the 8630 today because it is absolutely fucked and I need to do some serious fixing on it.

[Anonymous No.2768822]

>>2749750
It depends. If you run into a good ol boy and he has an idea that you are actually gonna use it, you can pick one up for a song. Big time farmers or ranchers are gonna fleece you though.

[Anonymous No.2769027]

>>2768603
Got my stack "fixed." Pretty much straight piped now, but at least it's in one piece and not gonna leak all around at the base like it was. It completely rotted out and was wobbling all over. Saved me $475 over buying a new one.

[Anonymous No.2769028]

>>2769027
After this pic I cut the top pipe down some and added the original tip and exhaust flapper to the top. Ended up being about 4" taller than the original. I figured getting it up a bit taller would help with the noise from it being pretty much straight piped now. Put it on this morning and fired it up. Really didn't sound much different! lol.

[Anonymous No.2769089]

>>2769028
Do you have to worry about spark arrestors up in the united states?
Down in Australia an iconic muffler/spark arrestor here is the yuba which is a centrifugal type

[Anonymous No.2769225]

>>2769089
Some people harvesting wheat might be more concerned with a spark arrestor being in tact. This is one of my spring tillage tractors so flammable environments are pretty much non existent where i will be running it.

[Anonymous No.2769229]

>>2769089
Only west of the Rockies.

[Anonymous No.2769600]

>>2749319
Very nice Chamberlain mate, I'd love to get one one day. How much did you pay for it?

[Anonymous No.2769668]

>>2769600
Dad would say too much, 6300 I reckon I got it at a good price because there was a 9g without a muffler for 5k and a bunch of mf 35s for the same price. there where other tractors the same engine power going for less but they don't have the road gears that chamberlains have, at least until the 80s.