/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.2721486]

By 2050, there will be more people on the planet than our current food system can support.

[Anonymous No.2721491]

Yeah, so our current system will improve along with it.

That's how population works. There can never be a larger population than can be sustained, it's called carrying capacity.

[Anonymous No.2721497]

>>2721491
Yeah our system will become increasingly plant based (vegetarian) to adapt. Requires less land under cultivation for greater agricultural output.

[Anonymous No.2721499]

So you have 25 years to grow a potato and onion patch

[Anonymous No.2721512]

>>2721486
>By 2050, there will be more people on the planet than our current food system can support.

Yeah, well man-made global warming will wipe us all out by:

1990
2000
2010
2020
2030

So what does it even matter?

[Anonymous No.2721514]

>>2721512
goddammit, how do you strikethrough text on here? Should I have done each line separately or how did I fuck it up?

[Anonymous No.2721516]

>>2721514
stop being gay. I bet you love spoiler tags too.

[Anonymous No.2721522]

>>2721516
>stop being gay. I bet you love spoiler tags too.
I'm just parroting what the media has said over the years. They keep changing their narrative so I'm just recording their fear mongering "mistakes" for the sake of history...

[Anonymous No.2721607]

>>2721486
By 1980, there were supposed to be more people on earth, the the food system could support - if you listen to retarded faggot "professionals", that is.

[Anonymous No.2721624]

>>2721486
Last I heard they were projecting a decline in world population. I think you're full of shit and making up stories on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.2721625]

>>2721486
Yeah, weird how we throw-out so much food from our kitchens, restaurant's and grocers.

stop worrying about shit you are told to worry about and start worrying about real problems in your world.

[Anonymous No.2721628]

>>2721486
global death penalty from minor offences is the way

[Anonymous No.2721649]

>>2721486
>By 2050, there will be more people on the planet than our current food system can support.
The US alone could feed 11 billion people just with our current production and there's millions of acres of arable land not in use still.
>>2721497
Animals don't need anywhere near as much land as the bug and onions shills want you to believe.

[Anonymous No.2721651]

>>2721649
This makes me so mad. The whole point of animals is they feed on semi arable land with little oversight. You kick the cows out then they come back that night a few pounds heavier

[Anonymous No.2723211]

>>2721514
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[Anonymous No.2723215]

>>2721514

[Anonymous No.2723412]

>>2723211
Ü

[Anonymous No.2723452]

>>2721486
not my problem im planning to die in 2049

[Anonymous No.2723510]

>>2721649
Its more about potable water than land

[Anonymous No.2723536]

>>2721514
lol newfag

[Anonymous No.2723546]

>>2723510
Population crash coming anyway. No one is gonna breed in 20 more years.

[Anonymous No.2723569]

>>2721486
Did you know that by the 1900s, the population of the planet exceeded the food system that existed in the 1850s???

[Anonymous No.2723575]

>>2721649
>Animals don't need anywhere near as much land as the bug and onions shills want you to believe.
I never understood the bug meme, either the people paranoid about it or the WEF shilling it in online journalism a couple years back.
Lentils are a superior protein alternative to bugs and a "green" alternative to meat, are pretty hardy re. growing and the infrastructure for mass producing and distributing them already exists. My wife's cousin is a police captain in Spain and told me that almost all cops there eat lentil & pork stew almost daily especially if they're cutting to meet their protein macros.

[Anonymous No.2723612]

>>2723575
>more than one cop on the force is fit
Doubt


Sounds delicious though

[Anonymous No.2723614]

>>2721486
>By 2050, there will be more people on the planet than our current food system can support.

Stop feeding Niggers.

[Anonymous No.2723630]

>>2721651
well you can forget about that what anon has in mind is doubling down on the system where cows and pigs live overcrowded in slaughter farms or where chicks go straight into the grinder after being hatched
also it's pretty niggerlicious to turn every piece of land into some kinda crop field we need forests too

[Anonymous No.2723632]

>>2723614
>people
>Niggers

[Anonymous No.2723674]

>>2723630
There is less land under cultivation today then there was 50byears ago because we're more efficient. There's more forests and less farms.

[Anonymous No.2723713]

>>2721522
You are an idiot. As someone who has followed the policy making surrounding global warming, pretty much everything has been correct. Sure the media blows shit out of proportion-it is how they make money. Even the energy giants have been planning for rising sea levels for the last 20 years, and openly admit that man made global warming is real.

[Anonymous No.2723715]

>>2723713
No, 0 has been correct. My house should not exist right now based on what they told me when I was a child.

Enough with the narrative. The solution to the current problem is always more control over life and murdering free people.

[Anonymous No.2723726]

>>2723632
Dumbfucks treat them like people.
Stop treating vermin like people.
Stop sending aid to places like africa.

[Anonymous No.2723809]

>>2723614
>>2723632
/pol/ has rotted your minds

[Anonymous No.2723826]

>>2723713
He fell for the media hype! Lol. Lmao even!

[Anonymous No.2723838]

>>2723826
You’ve probably never seen, much less read, a policy journal. Your “opinion” on this issue doesn’t have much value. You’ve chosen to believe what is convenient for you, rather than looked at and evaluated competing arguments from experts in their fields.I don’t really blame you, we all do it in some areas of our life. You can’t be an expert on anything.

But here is a good trick you might learn from, somethings are worth believing in, even if they aren’t true. Not fucking up the environment makes sense even if you don’t believe in man made global warming.

[Anonymous No.2723842]

Here's the thing faggot. I'm not fucking up the environment. Never have and never will, yet the government will take my money and solve nothing.

[Anonymous No.2724536]

>>2723674
doubt there are more forests today than in the past

[Anonymous No.2724611]

>>2721486
That's not true, anon, this is why you didn't post a link.

[Anonymous No.2724612]

>>2721497
Congratulations, you have been subverted by propaganda. Learn to do your own research or you will be misled your whole life, anon.

[Anonymous No.2724613]

>>2721486
OH NO! how could this be happening to us?!?
And who will take care of the elderly? :O

[Anonymous No.2724623]

>>2724536
There's probably a new iceage around the corner but let's just pretend to worry about heating instead OK?
That's the nice thing to do.

[Anonymous No.2724633]

>>2721649
>Animals don't need anywhere near as much land as the bug and onions shills want you to believe.

From google - "livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world's supply of calories".

The main vegetarian point appears to be that if they grew something just for people, they could grow way more of it.

[Anonymous No.2724721]

>>2724536
Take one forest, build a highway through it, you now have two forests

[Anonymous No.2724774]

>>2724633
>"livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world's supply of calories"
They're comparing situations where a few cows are roaming on thousands of acres of scrubby prairie to a similarly sized intensively cultivated farmland.
It's an apples and oranges comparison because there are lots of this "agricultural land" that wouldn't be suitable or used for intensive onions production anyway.
Additionally, most people who "farm" large acreage plots by having cows roam on them don't have the capital to have converted their land into an intensively cultivated plant farm anyway. We're not having a problem with global hunger or poverty right now because of a lack of arable land on which to grow enough food.

This entire conversation is a red herring.

[Anonymous No.2724780]

>>2724623
>There's probably a new iceage around the corner
Within the next 100k years, yes.

[Anonymous No.2724809]

>>2721486
Then the less competent nations must adapt. Not my problem and not DIY so fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2724813]

>>2721486
>By 2050, there will be more people on the planet than our current food system can support.
27 years in the future. Wanna bet our food system from 27 years ago wasn't able to supply enough food for our current 2023 population?
This is a non-issue stupid click-bait.

[Anonymous No.2724832]

>>2721486
I love this ebic maymay
On one hand, it encourages locking up all of the !type of! people likely to create more people than they can support/add value to society for and on the other it pushes whites and high performing tans to continue to prove themselves as the dominant races in evolution
No racism tho haha

[Anonymous No.2724996]

>>2723838
i will believe your bullshit narrative when the obamas sell their waterfront marthas vineyard property and al gore moves out of his coastal home

[Anonymous No.2726277]

>>2723809
Look at this little bitch... Sucking on the tranny jannies pathetic estrogen shriveled dick... Quit being such a worthless little propaganda echoing cuck.

[Anonymous No.2728705]

>>2721486
They keep rolling back Overshoot Day. This doesn't bode well.

https://overshoot.footprintnetwork.org/
https://www.sciencealert.com/we-ve-just-crossed-an-important-line-in-the-amount-of-resources-we-consume-each-year
https://www.sciencealert.com/major-population-correction-coming-for-humanity-scientist-predicts

[Anonymous No.2728894]

>>2721497
You may be eating plants, I will be feasting on bugs

[Anonymous No.2728896]

I produce my own food for me and my family, so idgaf

[Anonymous No.2728985]

You mean Europe will be completely fine due to low birth rates, as will most of China and America, while blacks will have trippled with no regard for resources or infrastructure, still entirely depending on the now disillusioned, disappointed, angry and decaying European civilization?
Yeah. This is the reason they always fear monger about climate migration.
The reality is that people in 2050 will be so radicalized that they'd rather nuke Africa than let them mass migrate to Europe again.

[Anonymous No.2728986]

>>2724633
Try eating only dent corn no. 2 and see how that goes for you ffs

[Anonymous No.2729001]

>>2724536
In the mid ages there were almost no forrests left in europe

[Anonymous No.2729058]

>>2729001
yeah right they must've planted them during the industrial revolution

[Anonymous No.2729072]

I work at a grocery store and im always amazed the system works at all

[Anonymous No.2729079]

>>2729072
>I work at a grocery store and im always amazed the system works at all

I feel the same way when shopping. My store has piles of fresh bananas. Every other store has piles of fresh bananas. Just imagine the infrastructure and the coordination of efforts to accomplish that week after week.

Same thing applies to everything in that store. How the fuck does everything work so close to perfection. Inexpensive sardines in particular blow my mind.

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.2729082]

>>2721486
Malthusianism is a fearful, superstitous, false religious belief system.

[Anonymous No.2729096]

>>2729079
>How the fuck does everything work so close to perfection.
You have to be careful about that. This is because grocery stores usually have 3 days worth of supply at best. During extreme weather you will see a lot of bare shelves. All it takes is a gas crisis or specific sector strike and you will see mass run on the stores and panic.
Best to learn how garden beds and potted plants growing works. Get started now. Expand and teach the family and friends. Once the crisis starts, it may be already too late to start.

[Anonymous No.2729117]

>>2729096
This just makes the stores seem that much more impressive when you get into it
I bought a house and a little bit of farmland recently and the effort and expense i have to put in for pithy yields and failed experimnt is staggering
>build a fence
>build raised beds
>build a green house
>build animal housing
>pest and predator proof
It goes on and on and ill maybe get a bushel of food out of it
Meanwhile i can go to the store at the right time of year and buy 3 bushels of tomatoes for $60 and im set for the year

[Anonymous No.2729120]

>>2729079
aren't you wanted in ohio?

[Anonymous No.2729566]

>>2723838
>Not fucking up the environment makes sense even if you don’t believe in man made global warming.
I could not agree more
We need to stop worrying about cow farts and instead focus on the increasing sprawl of cities and suburbs and just how little nature there is left in some areas
NTA btw

[Anonymous No.2729593]

>>2721497
>>2721486
>>2721649
>>2724612
>>2728894
Instead of huge farmlands, why not have huge high rise mega indoor warehouse farms?
Solar and water powered. Bring the soil/compost inside.. or even just hydroponically grow rows and rows stacked high as the moon of vegetables.
Then you can have outside for more Low Income Family Apartment complexes

[Anonymous No.2729675]

>>2729593
>Then you can have outside for more Low Income Family Apartment complexes
Why would you want this?

I would rather have open expanses of farmland with nobody around for miles and miles. Keep your scum contained to the cities.

[Anonymous No.2730063]

>>2729117
Indeed. But worth pondering how fragile it is and what you're gonna do on the day when it doesn't work. I've been toying with growing my own food for about 15 years now and it takes time to see how you could produce enough to meet your needs. It becomes clear why staple crops are so vital - Going hard in on potatoes and having them be the bulk of your calories is viable, but every bit of diversity you add into the mix complicates things greatly, and you're always at risk of a failed harvest.

[Anonymous No.2730076]

>>2721499
You need a lot of space to be growing enough to sustain one person.

[Anonymous No.2730103]

>>2721486
And that problem will resolve itself in a matter of a decade one way or another.

[Anonymous No.2730106]

if it can't support them how are they alive?

[Anonymous No.2730108]

>>2729120
Kek

[Anonymous No.2730167]

Wouldn't be a problem if white cucks didn't send what's supposed to be their children's money to donate food, fertilizer, and medicine to shitskins.

>>2724536
The world is greening.

>>2729079
It's all just-in-time supply chains. Production stops and the show stops pretty much immediately.

>>2729593
If you did not have enough land but a lot of energy, you could do that, but this is not the case.

[Anonymous No.2731436]

>>2729117
once the prep work is done, most everything is automatic assuming you aren't buying constant maintenance shit. Get produce that's local to your area (and would grow without you being there) and you will be inundated with insane amounts of veggies/fruits.
blackberries in texas is an easy example, we tried to plant some plants many years back, they never did well. then they decided to move and show up and we kept wacking them, finally said fuck it and let it grow by accident.... then 1 year later we got 60 lbs of blackberries out probably ~$600+ in value. the only work was picking the blackberries, which was fun and enjoyable.
repeat that for everything else you want to grow (make sure your growing zones/climate/soil acidity/nutrients are right) and it's 'free' shit forever.

[Anonymous No.2732568]

>>2721486
>By 2050, there will be more ~~people~~ niggers on the planet than our current food system can support.
Only if we continue artificially boosting the population of africa.
All other populations are on the decline.