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What am I in for? I have always had gas furnace HVAC. We have aboot 3 cords of wood on hand.

The kitchen oven and bedroom stove both have double wall chimney pipe. the living room has single wall. this was done because: bedroom stove is larger capacity than size of room. avoid extra heat xfer from flue pipe. kitchen oven stove pipe is inside of an interior wall, so we needed the heat shield.

bedroom stove is a Mørso 1410. living room stove is a US Stoves Defender. Kitchen oven is a Lacunza.

talk to me.

>> No.2683480

3 cords isnt enough for half a winter
A wood oven is so fucking incredibly redpilled i am in awe at the mere thought of it, I just hope your family isnt a bunch of bitches about it.
ive only had one stove in the like two houses ive had with them, it generally heats the whole house, especially if you use like a small fan to direct the warm air down a hallway into the bedrooms and stuff. not sure why you need a bedroom specific one unless your house layout is wonk.

>> No.2683483

Damn wood stoves are hard AF to keep a consistent temp on. Make sure you do a dry run with your old lady so you understand how long it takes to heat one up and move importantly how to keep a consistent temp several houses.
I would also buy a wireless pit thermometer so you can measure pit temps. Avoiding over heating and more importantly losing heat.
Fire management is a bitch but damn you'll make some fine ass bread.
Oh and get a thermal fan for each one so you can move air around.

>> No.2683490


wife and I are both looking forward to using the wood oven. it's still to hot to use it right now.

the bedroom stove is more about ambiance. we had our hoose custom designed & built, so we thought it would be nice.

the price of wood is jaw dropping. we actively collect free wood at every chance. if I see a dead or downed tree, I will speak to owner to see if they want it removed. also, I am a trade worker, so I see lots of downed trees on the job. I just grab them, don't even ask. there are some tree disposal sites within 20 to 30 miles of my hoose. I plan to pick up wood from there also. finally, my boss has 15 acres of land overgrown with trees she does not like. I will log those for free wood.

still... un-fucking-believable how expensive wood is, if you buy it. I did not realize this when we allotted for the stoves. no regrets, though.

>> No.2683491
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Always dreamed of having a rocket mass heater.
It heats the stone, which can hold a fuck ton of heat, and slowly dissipates throughout the day. Almost like a thermal battery. Take a very long time to heat up, but it's very consistent temperature all day long and very fuel efficient. It shocks me more people don't know about these things.

>> No.2683492

None of those is reburning. You'll use 3x as much wood. Study rocket mass heaters. Several commercial stoves incorporate the same idea: insulate the burn chamber, and (some) add extra forced air into the burn box, igniting all the byproducts. That also means you end up with no creosote. It's also the reason why non-reburn stoves build up creosote and eventually, when the stove pipe sets on fire, it's a 3,000 degree rocket that can't be put out.

And yes, there are ways or things you can burn to clear creosote. But why haul 3x the amount of wood, and have that extra maintenance? That if you don't do, burns your house down. Plus, you're refilling the fireplace 3x as often.

>> No.2683493

wait you are an american?
what state?
your wood usage goes down the next year and following years, its just your first year you will very unoptimally consume wood. I'm surprised you did not build in place a rocket stove if you were building the house around it already.
this is what we have in north finland, they are very efficient, even with the fire burning for months on end it consumes very little wood. Cooking is simple when the oven is just always hot too.

it is a bit late but for relative cheapness they make a heat exchanger unit that you can install in the chimney pipe and it has a built in fan to reclaim a bit more heat from the exhaust before it leaves the house

>> No.2683500

My wood boiler consumed 20 cords /year. 3 cords will heat a garage for a year on weekends in New England states

>> No.2683753

even if your wood boiler was only 50% efficient, 20 cords of oak would produce about 240 million BTU, or the equivalent of about 70,000 kWh or $14,000 of electricity at ~$0.20/kWh

Your math is retarded, or you're retarded, or something is terribly wrong with your house. It shouldn't take that much to heat a house in Alaska, let alone New England.

>> No.2683785

I live in the sticks and a cord of wood is still over $300. What are prices for you?

>> No.2683811

Nice set up. Keep your pipes clean and learn how to use the stoves and get some more wood. Don’t let the stove glow. If you have an over fire open the stove doors completely. If you have a chimney fire close the doors and block the air intake or get some chimfex.

>> No.2683888

>un-fucking-believable how expensive wood is
Where the hell do you live? I can buy two cord of pitchy pine for $400 and -- if I'm willing to bang the creosote out of the sparkcatcher every month -- keep my old house nice and warm all winter.

>> No.2683930

I hear 50% of my house in Maine with 3-4 cords a year. I run oil overnight.

>> No.2683959

I'm embarrassed to even say. it's bad.


I won't state anything aboot my location. not even a general area. internet people are crazy, cancel culture is real, and social credit scores & economic retaliation are commonplace.

>> No.2683974

I kind of miss processing firewood 12 months out of the year and burning it for 9. Timber around my house kept getting farther away though.. living in the south now and wood is cheap, could probably profit by hauling it north it if it weren't for those pesky borer beetle boys.

>> No.2683978

Question for you guys, have you ever considered coal for heating? I'm from PA and holy moly you could heat your house for dirt cheap picking up 50lbs bags direct from the mines. They would even deliver it for you.

>> No.2684011

>I won't state anything aboot my location
northern california, got it

>> No.2684031

Make sure that it is low fluoride content or you will poison yourself.

>> No.2684036

I know jack shit. I am thinking about getting a wood burner for supplementary heat in Arizona. I have plenty of wood because I am an arborist. Somebody point me in the right direction to get started understanding this topic.

>> No.2684041

my guy you live in arizona, the coldest that shithole has ever gotten on record is 30c

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not OP but mine has a fan built in but i used one of these bad boys if i want to save on my power bill, and youre correct about cords. i think i average 6 - 7 cords a winter.

>> No.2684048

You are incorrect, good sir. The coldest that I have experienced here is -7C.

>> No.2684058

Are any of these better than the others?

>> No.2684065

They say that about the water too and I'm still posting frequently to this board

>> No.2684067

>I'm still posting frequently
You need acute poisoning to get the warped spine or to have your teeth rot. The gradual poisoning will just cause diminished mental capacity and earlier onset of dementia.

>> No.2684071

no clue, i got mine as a gift years ago so i havent really bothered to look into whether any are better or not. if my stove didnt have a powered fan built in id probably have done some more research but i cant really be assed.

>> No.2684125

>he's spelling house like that intentionally

>> No.2684127

>Your math is retarded, or you're retarded, or something is terribly wrong with your house.
por que no los tres

>> No.2684139

/diy/ I bought around 600 bricks to build a masonry heater, but instead went with a pellet stove because it had wifi. Did I miss out? Anyone /diy/ a masonry stove or other mass heater? How did it go?

>> No.2684148

You could still build a RMH. I would. Put the bricks to use.

>> No.2684172

Install a heat pump

>> No.2684175

I have free wood.

>> No.2684182

Forever? How big is your house? Some days youre might want to heat it without having to light and stoke 3 fires

>> No.2684198

Yeah, pretty much. I am an arborist, so I get my pick. I toss more in the garbage than I burn. I live in a small house in a warm region. I could probably heat the whole house with one stove, with just some minimal touch up from the gas furnace. I already cook outside over an open fire quite a bit. That helps for the Summer by keeping the cooking heat outside. I am just trying to do what makes the most sense for the assets that I have available. Like you indicate, building and maintaining fires can be a pain, but I am already aware of the labor required due to cooking. If I get everything squared, then it just becomes habit to toss another piece on.

>> No.2684204

get a blaze king catalyst stove. i load mine once every 24 hours and i live in alaska.

light it in september, put it out in may.

>> No.2684210

christ, man. that would heat two of my hooses.

didn't see any pricing on several sites, but I bet they are expensive, too. Our Morsø was not cheap, but our options were limited... nay... non-existant, for small space stoves.

>> No.2684231

>>not even a general area. internet people are crazy, cancel culture is real, and social credit scores & economic retaliation are commonplace.
Damn, man. Who hurt you?

>> No.2684238

So not even winter. Got it.

>> No.2684248

Lived in a trailer house with a single wood stove for heating for most of my childhood. Its a super comfy experience in the winter. get a big shitty pot to throw on top and fill with water to keep humidity up, and beware the occasional backdraft smoking your ass out if the weather gets weird. I'd also clean out the chimneys now and be prepared to do it later in the season depending on how shitty your stoves are.

>> No.2684249

move back to the city, you faggot

>> No.2684251

Should've bought stoves that pull outside air for burning. Trim is fucked up near the greenish tile, should be done the same as in the pic below it.

>> No.2684361

It's just a cast iron stove but with more steps and a bigger foot print.

>> No.2684363

A friend built a house recently and cut down a bunch of ash. He let me take as much as I wanted. I wanted some for projects but every single one had beetle tunnels through them. I cut some open and found larva inside. So now it's firewood but I found a few good pieces to work with.

>> No.2684364

>30 Celsius
Speak English

>> No.2684380

>Speak English
That is the least of his problems. All he can do is shitpost about how I do not need to heat my house because 19 F is not cold enough to warrant heating my house. I highly doubt that he is letting his inside temperature drop to 19 F during the winter.

>> No.2684397

I've seen -13c inside temps when im not there but me being in the room and also cooking dinner keeps it up around 0
during the winter I just bust out the giant stack of blankets and stay very comfy all night, then in the morning, crack on my 30,000btu kerosene heater from in my bed and it brings the house up to 20c quickly so I can get out of bed.
I installed heating for my water lines so I can do this, you may not be able to.

>> No.2684419

6 cords a year! Do you live in a canvas tent? My normally insulated house uses 2 for a season. No breaks constant 80 F.

>> No.2684420

t. florida resident

>> No.2684465

I heard of someone who built on a forested lot and got some wood burning stove brand from Vermont to burn all the trees he cutdown. He used the stove to heat a boiler for radiant floor heating that went throughout the entire house and even the driveway. Unfortunately the stove wasn't as efficient as it claimed to be and they burned through the wood on the property in no time and started buying tons of firewood. Also it made the house uncomfortably hot at times and the only way to cool it down was to open all the windows but it took forever.

You could set up a geothermal system to cool the water if it got too hot and dump the heat underground. Just as well use the warm water to heat something like refrigerant and then send the expanding gas through a turbine.

>> No.2684472

Northern Canada here. I get -40 and 6 months of winter.

I only use wood heat. I have a big old woodstove and a cookstove like you got too.

Cookstove is used on the weekends, otherwise we use our gas range for cooking after work. Love the cookstove so much on a comfy winter night.

I think we use about 4 or 5 cords for 900sq ft house

>> No.2684490

I heated a house, garage, domestic hot water, and ran a modified dryer off the boiler....Year round. My garage had exhaust fans for, you know, actually doing stuff
I burnt wet dry whatever, all year long, you're calculations are dreaming off

>> No.2685530

Outdoor wood boilers are super inefficient. Guys that run them out here will order wood by the logging truck load.