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Rate my first build. I wanted to build a treasure chest, I don't have any treasure or wood working skills. I followed a 4 minute guide and a dream I had. How do I improve on this? I am happy with this result and I think I will put things in it.

>> No.2622962
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>> No.2622967
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Toilet for scale. I think I did ok, it's heavy and I think I'm going to put my bathroom bourbon in it. Maybe a few silver coins and 3 gold plated collectible McDonald's pokeballs, with stat cards inside.

>> No.2622973

That looks great! I'm not sure if you can improve on this one without redoing a lot of work, but there's some build quality that could be tighter and for some reason the use of philips head wood screws bothers me.

>> No.2622975

>>2622960
Looks good anon, I like how the wood turned out. Nice project.

>> No.2622977

>>2622973
I used deck screws because I use drills a lot and they seem to hold forever. I am not sure about nails as I dont use nails for anything but using a hammer to pull nails at work. I want to do better with wood working and techniques. I do plumbing, I am building another chest currently

>> No.2622992

Not bad anon. Could try to fit those slats together better. From afar they have a sort of 'old pirate chest that's worn from time' look, but up close it becomes apparent that a lot of these are just badly cut.

>> No.2623022

>>2622992
This was my first attempt cutting wood, I learned how to replace deck board from this

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>>2622992
Forgot pic. I don't want to use screws but these type are the best I could think of to keep things held together really well, I need advice from a wood worker hopefully on how bad i did and how to fix the new one I'm working on

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>>2623023
You're used to wire nails. They're made from steel wire that's been cut, possibly rolled or stamped, and headed with a die of some sort. They sort of suck. For furniture you'd want to use the modern equivalent of nails made by a blacksmith. A blacksmith would forge out a somewhat conical nail and the modern version of that is cut nails.
As for the poor tolerances, unless you're using a table saw with a fence, you're never going to get flat faces from sawing wood. You need to plane it to fit and because you're arranging your slats in a semicircle you'll need to plane them into trapezoids so they mate up against each other at least somewhat tightly.

>> No.2623038

>>2623030
I am ashamed to say I cut all of those with a sawzall and the longer cuts by hand. I don't own a table saw, but it's on my list tomorrow for the swap meet to pick up. Can you recommend good planning tools?

>> No.2623295

>>2623038
I use a series of hand planes, in order of roughness: a wooden scrub plane converted from an old smoothing plane, an iron low angle jack plane with a 38° blade bevel-up on a 12° bed, and a wooden jointer plane with a 45° bed. With these 3 planes, only one of which wasn't dirt cheap, I can very quickly make something flat. Add a machinist's square and I can flatten and square 2 sides. Add a marking gauge and it's 4 sides. I also have a 25° blade for my jack plane so I can shoot end grain flat with it. You don't need power tools but hand tool woodworking is a completely different (and far less popular) discipline. If you want to make stuff similar to what was made hundreds of years ago you're going to need at least some hand tools. There's no shame in cutting what you need with what you have. A hand saw will never give you a flat surface either. That's why we cut over-size and add retroactive precision with increasingly finer tools. As you make more stuff it becomes increasingly clear why old stuff was made the way it was.

>> No.2623455

>>2623030
cut nails are severely overrated, since that one boomer featured them, the trick with using wire nails is to use two and dont drive them in straight but at opposing angles. that way you will never pull the piece out without breaking the wood, an actual joint

>> No.2623527

>>2623455
And that's fine when you're hiding it somewhere that won't be seen. Cut/forged nails are for form as well as function.

>> No.2623534

>>2622960
Easiest way to improve this one would be to add another set of metal bands at the edges, that would be a more accurate representation as well as cover the modern fasteners.
FWIW many of those kinds of chests used that barrel shaped form because they used the same principles to hold them together ie no nails or other fasteners joining wood to wood, just rivets on the bands and clinch nails (essentially rivets) to hold them and any hardware in place when it's opened.
Anyway, it's not terrible at all for a first time project using minimal tools...a very minor detail that jumped out at me as someone who has done historical restoration and replicas, props, etc. was that although that kind of box might have been left pretty rough, the rough circular saw marks in the lumber are nothing like you'd find on a vintage pirate chest.

>> No.2623536

>>2623527
simple stuff where nails are sufficient doesn't need to be beautiful and artsy, that just hipster wank.
like if i do a step stool for the shop. we both know it aint a masterpiece

>> No.2623537

>>2623536
I'm just thinking about what I'd use a chest for and all I'm coming up with is a toy chest for my kids. If it goes in the house I'll make it nice. I don't disagree with you.

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>>2622967
>Toilet for scale

>> No.2624196

>>2623023
You can easily hide those if you want.
>remove screw
>drill out hole slightly with countersink bit
>replace screw
>glue/dowel the recess left by the countersink bit
>trim dowels with a flush cut hand saw
a contrasting wood might look nice and hiding the screws will lend to the rustic look you've got going
nice project, OP

>> No.2624321

I’m sorry but If theirs no booty inside then it’s a 0/10

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>>2624196
Dowels aren't really the right way to do that, besides being a pain in the ass to trim and sand flush, the exposed end grain can cause them to swell and split the wood they're in, especially near the ends of boards.
Picrel is how you make wooden plugs, they're sized to work with countersink bits and can be purchased together.

>> No.2624403

>>2622960

Wow, it actually looks really shit

>> No.2624416

>>2624403
What a misery you are

>> No.2624449

That is cool man