Dun Goof’d

[Anonymous No.2587265]

I assumed this was four wire and bought 50’ 6/4 SOOW cable. It’s only three wire, so the neutral isn’t needed. How bad did I fuck up and what should I do? I can’t return it. I’m just gonna cut the neutral for now, but I’d like to find a suitable use for the extra copper later. Is there any application that really needs four wires?

[Anonymous No.2587266]

And what is the wire it came with called?

[Anonymous No.2587269]

Here’s the wire I got

[Anonymous No.2587270]

>>2587265
I'm a big fan of buying expensive materials for a project without checking to see what I need first.

[Anonymous No.2587272]

>>2587270
I asked my electrician friend, and he told me to get this wire. I don’t know shit so I didn’t even consider there was a chance the wire numbers were different. Only $100 down the drain though, so not the end of the world, but someday I’d like to make things right by actually using that fourth wire. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.2587337]

why are itoddlers like this

[Anonymous No.2587343]

>>2587337
I dunno. Why are you?

[Anonymous No.2587506]

Any ideas though guys? I’m using the wire to run a PID that controls two 25A elements. I might just get a 4-wire PID later as an upgrade and use this one for something else.

[Anonymous No.2587509]

>>2587337
At least I’m doing something. This is one of many projects going on atm. What are you doing?

[Anonymous No.2587518]

>>2587509
ahhh good point, sorry

[Anonymous No.2587523]

I'm a Canadian electrician for reference.

First of all, consider it a sunk cost. Fucking around trying to pull a wire out of a cable sounds bizarre. You can already see a cable in your panel where the same thing was done. Happens all the time.

Also for future reference SOOW is typical of what I would use in an industrial setting, it's an extra hard usage cable rated at 600V that is oil/water resistant. Probably overkill for your application, there are likely cheaper options that fit your use case such as SJOW.

Also the enclosure in your second picture looks like it's Type 1 (indoors only).

[Anonymous No.2587538]

how are you going to get that extra wire out without ruining the whole cable? Just accept that you fuckered up.

[Anonymous No.2587542]

>>2587538
>>2587523
I’m just going to not use the wire, I’m not gonna pull it out lol. That’s what I meant by ‘cut’, cut it short.

I am considering it a sunk but may be doing more work like this in the future, so wanted to know how I might utilize the currently unused fourth wire. Thanks for the tip on SJOW. I really should’ve double checked my friends recommendations with /diy/ first but I just trusted his judgement. He wasn’t too far off but I could’ve saved a tad had I done so.

Too bad the enclosure looks indoor only, I have no other choice for now unless that’s a super cheap fix.

[Anonymous No.2587544]

I hope to be running a high kw boiler soon, so maybe the SOOW will come in handy for that? The wires only 6 gauge, so the maximum amp rating is 50, but if it can handle more volts maybe that’ll work? I want like a 25-50kw boiler.

[Anonymous No.2587548]

Right now I’m using a PID from a brew system controller (pic in OP) with two 25A elements to act as a boiler/steam generator. At some point, I’d like to retire this PID and use it for its originally purpose, brewing. So when I do that, I’ll potentially have an opportunity to rectify the wrong decision I originally made in buying this four wire SOOW.

In the future I may be running tilt kettles, autoclaves and a boiler. In particular I was looking at this boiler:
https://catalog.electrosteam.com/item/process-steam-generators/lb-40-60-electric-steam-generators/lb-40-h
And you can run it at up to 600v at 30A, so maybe that would be a good application?

[Anonymous No.2587551]

Here’s the manual/specifications for said boiler, would this be a good use?
https://www.electrosteam.com/wp-content/uploads/LB-40-60-USER-MANUAL.pdf

Not sure if it’s 4 wire yet.

[Anonymous No.2587557]

And the purpose of using flexible cord is that the layout and location of stuff is subject to change at the moment. Everything may even be moved to a different property, for example.

[Anonymous No.2587562]

Please answer someone I am on the edge of my seat over this for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2587563]

Your fourth conductor will be useful if ever you switch to three phase gear or if you have a device that uses 240/120 voltages, not super uncommon. Other than that I dont see a use.

[Anonymous No.2587570]

Maybe the tilt kettle or autoclave is a better use for the wire, I didn’t realize 480v was so hard to come by. Someday I will get my moneys worth for this mistake though.

[Anonymous No.2587572]

>>2587563
I will definitely be using three phase stuff in the near future, like for the tilt kettle. Wish I could utilize the 600v aspect too but I don’t see that happening for awhile.

[Anonymous No.2587578]

So this is what I should’ve bought?
https://www.platt.com/p/0096310/soow-portable-cord-6-3-black-1000/980130456178/63sox1000mcr


Instead of
https://www.platt.com/p/0069402/soow-portable-cord-6-4-black-1000-or-cut-to-length/980130456215/64sox1000

?

[Anonymous No.2587580]

>>2587578
Thats correct. But like the other poster mentioned youd likely be fine with service junior, and dont buy commodity goods like heavy copper wire online.

[Anonymous No.2587595]

>>2587580
I bought it in person at the Platt’s store, I was going to risk Amazon or whatever else. Luckily I only overplayed 102 bucks though, and I think I’ll have some use for it when I do the triple phase stuff.

[Anonymous No.2587597]

>>2587580
Oh shoot I thought that link was SJOOW, does Platt’s not even sell 6/3 SJOOW?

[Anonymous No.2587600]

>>2587595
*I wasN’T going to risk

[Anonymous No.2587893]

>>2587600
We're moving onto my new thread btw: >>2587864

[Anonymous No.2588377]

>>2587509
not fucking up and researching before consooming. you tried it?

[Anonymous No.2588410]

>>2587265
>I assumed this was four wire
Yeah, they look like the plugs that go to spider boxes. I'd assume it took the wire you bought, too. Never seen one that didn't take 4 connections..

[Anonymous No.2588768]

>>2588377
I asked my electrician friend. Yes I should’ve double checked regardless but it didn’t even occur to me this was a possibility.

[Anonymous No.2589757]

>>2587265
nothing much you can do. I would just ignore it, but if you HAVE to do something with it, you can just cut the other wires short so you have an elongated neutral and then just use the neutral as a back up chassis ground. Mark it as ground on both ends or you will die.

[Anonymous No.2589803]

>>2587265
>Is there any application that really needs four wires?

Do you guys not have 3 phase power?