>state requires 576 classroom hours to become an electrician What the FUCK

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Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:44:13 2023 No.2585382 [Reply] [Original]

>state requires 576 classroom hours to become an electrician
What the FUCK

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:59:14 2023 No.2585387 >>2585382 once you're an electrician you'll be glad these artificial barriers exist to reduce competition. you want to work for less?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:03:47 2023 No.2585389 you don't want stupid people being licensed professionals, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:29:03 2023 No.2585394 Join IBEW they'll pay you to learn that shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:36:11 2023 No.2585397 File: 22 KB, 600x743, HA4QjVV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2585382 That's what, three or four months if class is 8 hours a day?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:01:17 2023 No.2585409 >>2585387 This. Don't get paid for what you do, get paid for what you know.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 00:44:15 2023 No.2585465
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>>2585389
>basic three way switches, conduit, circuit breakers and memorizing code=intelligence
Lmao
>>2585397
Fuck no. I have a job, the class im in is three hours two nights a week

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 04:25:28 2023 No.2585556 >>2585394 This

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 04:33:43 2023 No.2585559

>>2585382
Thats just requirements inflation.
Eventually there will be so many requirements, some of which contradict each other, that it will be technically impossible.
Then, you’ll have to use based Lori Loughlin‘s method…all they really want is the money anyway.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 05:54:46 2023 No.2586150

Hahaha
I've been fucking with peoples wires for years.

Literally just do it. You gotta not fuck up... Triple check it.
And do your own homework. You should have some studying to do. But must of what a residential electrician does is pretty simple. A rudimentary understanding of electrical theory will have you rewiring fuse panels and hot water heaters like nothing.
Just be careful on the 240 volt shit. And check for live power with your beeper excessively. Obsessively.
Beyond that, all you need is a beeper, multimeter, (nope, fluke is overpriced, the 40 dollar harbor freight guy is good 99% of what you're doing) and an amp clamp. Plus your basic strippers, pliers, crimpers, screwdrivers, utility knife, I find a small file is good for cleaning corrosion on contact points when rebuilding shit, dialectic grease too, jumper cables... I carry yellow and red wire nuts, yellow for making the common two wire connection and reds for multiple...heat shrink tape is nice, lasts better than 50 layers of tape, oOoOO ya need about 1000 rolls of that, wire staples, it's all basic shit.

Knowing how to use it right though! That's the deal breaker. Fuck that Jewish school. You know whether or not you know what you're doing man. If you do, do it. If not, learn. Teach yourself! And if you can do it... Then you can charge for it. Fuck that shit.

Do a small job on the cheap, that guy will tell buddies, and so down the line. Fuck certs and all that Jewish garbage. Proof is in the pudding. If I wire x up and it works, I can do it. I've proven it.
That's more proof than a cert can give.
Wahhhhhh who'll hire me without my gay state sponsored piece of paper that only proves I'm a gullible fool???
Anybody that had thier friend tell them you can make the power flow. Come in cheap, get the shot, apply self taught knowledge, prove your skill, repeat as word of mouth spreads (the beat advertising) and eventually have work come to YOU. And fuck the rest of that pozzed garbage.

Niggers

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 05:57:14 2023 No.2586151 >>2585387 >>2585409 Principles? What are those.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 09:52:57 2023 No.2586210 >>2586150 This man will one day fuck something up and be sued and fined to hell and back

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:49:31 2023 No.2586219 >>2585382 It's 4 years, you aren't special. Either stick it out and get your j-man card, or bail out at some point and be like every other millennial/zoomer and bumble around in life and then bitch about how everything is too expensive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:51:57 2023 No.2586221 >>2586219 Or pick a profession that isnt cucked by the (((unions))) and (((licensing)))

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:58:40 2023 No.2586399 >>2585382 I had 208 hours of instruction to get a CDL for semi's, with the bare minimum being 108 hours and theory on how parts and systems work. 500+ hours to become a sparky makes sense to me, you've got way more theory to learn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 18:13:13 2023 No.2586404 >>2586399 >you've got way more theory to learn. electricians don't know theory. they know the code.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 18:54:43 2023 No.2586432 >>2585389 It's pay to win, not be not retarded to win.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 21:48:52 2023 No.2586506 >>2586219 No, I'll bail out and get into IT then learn the DIY skills in my free time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 21:50:26 2023 No.2586507 >>2585382 in 600 hours you can become a 1% programmer just sayign

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 22:29:17 2023 No.2586525 >getting a license Lmao. just learn enough on the job and take that with you and do side work. Then get some business cards and do it for yourself. That's what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:39:43 2023 No.2586554 >>2586404 >electricians don't know theory. they know the code. Hold on, let me check the code on how to wire this three way switch... Where is the wiring instructions???

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:46:10 2023 No.2586557 >>2586554 it comes with the package

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:50:27 2023 No.2586560 >>2585387 FPBP All government-imposed occupational licenses are artificial restrictions on the supply of labor in order to inflate salaries. Every. Single. One.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:53:36 2023 No.2586562 >>2586557 >it comes with the package And yet it gets wired wrong by people looking at the pictures. Curious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:54:48 2023 No.2586563 >>2586560 And then they also employ a class of inspectors who have to check every "licensed" electricians work Plus the general contractor takes his cut

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:05:03 2023 No.2586567 >>2586554 desu that's more of a knowledge of wiring practices than of electrical theory. I've wired a few houses and I wouldn't recognize an electron if I passed by one on the street.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 00:16:45 2023 No.2586573 >>2586567 >desu that's more of a knowledge of wiring practices than of electrical theory. Where do you think knowledge of wiring practices comes from? Do you think a random drywaller came up with how to wire buildings as a joke?

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 04:02:54 2023 No.2586676

>>2586573
>Where do you think knowledge of wiring practices comes from?
Almost every electrician working in this country right now has knowledge of wiring practices without having learned the theory of physics and electromagnetism that led to those practices.

A state requiring 576 classroom hours for someone to become an electrician is not going to meaningfully increase the safety or effectiveness of their installs compared to all the other states that simply require on the job experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 12:25:05 2023 No.2586799 >>2586151 i have principles like "get ahead", "get money". you have principles like "it's okay if my wife fucks another man i don't OWN her"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 13:18:29 2023 No.2586812 >>2586799 Diff guy here, I don't see those principles as mutually exclusive. I disagree with neither

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 14:02:05 2023 No.2586821

>>2586799
Sorry, i should have said principles and a fucking brain. Artificial barriers to competition dont help you get ahead or get money beyond the short term, and even then only if the hand of fate doesnt backhand your stupid ass.

Your principles are get ahead and get money, and youre willing to base a long term station on a short term gamble? The fuck???????

>youre a cuck
Youre overcompensating, it makes you look like a cuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 15:52:19 2023 No.2586847 >>2586150 don't listen to this guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 17:41:25 2023 No.2586887 >>2586210 >>2586847 (((Electricians))) HATE HIM for discovering FREE ELECTRIC TRICK from home! Learn how YOU CAN DO IT TOO!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 00:43:19 2023 No.2587144 >>2586210 is there some legal bullshit to get around this? have every client sign a contract waiving their right to sue me? plus how exactly are certified electricians exempt from this

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:14:23 2023 No.2587160 Its always the most vocal, pissant, pedantic people in trades threads that never actually work in said trade. Go back to your gay 3d printing general dude, this thread isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:20:10 2023 No.2587162 >>2586151 I never said anything about jewing customers. I'm not a hvac faggot. Eat shit nigger

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 01:37:11 2023 No.2587172 File: 28 KB, 211x238, 81996307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2587144 >is there some legal bullshit to get around this? Get certified?? Are you this regarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:01:31 2023 No.2587187 >>2587172 I'll have you know i'm highly regarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:27:33 2023 No.2587209 >>2587162 I also never said anything about jewing customers. I was refering to >you'll be glad these artificial barriers exist to reduce competition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 02:33:08 2023 No.2587213 >>2587172 get around being sued specifically while not being certified.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 15:40:45 2023 No.2587521
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>>2585382
Good thing my uncle owned a electric company and hired me on as an apprentice. Hands on experience is so much better then sitting around a bunch of queer zoomers taking a test.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 16:09:14 2023 No.2587541 >>2586150 In the years you've been working, you could simply be certified and receiving more lucrative work. Instead you're dodging legality to do apprentice work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 16:57:29 2023 No.2587569 How does this work for someone moving in from out of state who has already worked as an electrician?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:00:18 2023 No.2587571 >>2587209 Thanks for the work. I'm the guy fixes your fuckups. Back to mexico, nigger

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:01:49 2023 No.2587573 >>2587521 This. Texas has on the job training. Small companies working directly with journeymen and masters is the fastest way to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:04:00 2023 No.2587574 >>2587571 Did you reply to the wrong person?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 17:05:32 2023 No.2587575 >>2587574 Thought they were being a smartass

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:20:20 2023 No.2587830 >>2587575 Thats obvious enough, but it still wouldnt make sense either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:10:50 2023 No.2588091 >>2585382 That's like two college courses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 18:46:07 2023 No.2588222 >>2585382 Imagine being an europoor.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 19:59:59 2023 No.2588263

>>2585465
>the class im in is three hours two nights a week
sounds like a you problem. take a loan, quit, live thrifty, and full time it for 4/5 months then get hired and start raking in the cash.
of course, you'll be digging the low man digging ditches for a year, but presumably the pay is better than whatever minimum wage retail cuck job you have now

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 19:13:28 2023 No.2589620 >>2588263 >minimum wage retail cuck I sell hearing aids at a medical place for 21/hr >all those backflips because I was born in the wrong state No thanks, I'll move on to welding or plumbing.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:37:37 2023 No.2589779

>>2585465
>basic three way switches, conduit, circuit breakers and memorizing code=intelligence

You also have to know how to troubleshoot, which is the biggest hurdle for most of the dumb fuck electricians out in the field. Half of them are professional conduit bending technicians.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 00:41:05 2023 No.2589782 >>2586506 Good luck retard. Every faggot in the world is pursuing IT now while all the trades are desperate to get reliable help. Hope you enjoy your career path to either getting automated or outsourced to pajeets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 15:48:55 2023 No.2590019 >>2586812 who asked

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 15:50:15 2023 No.2590021

>>2586821
>Artificial barriers to competition dont help you get ahead or get money beyond the short term
>beyond the short term
lmao I love it when midwits use expressions at fucking random just to add "strength" to their arguments, it's always a great tell of their middling IQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 15:53:47 2023 No.2590022 where to get the most heat shrink tape for the cheapest? bezosmart?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 15:54:08 2023 No.2590023 >>2586506 Ah yes, getting fucked by GPT, what a great career path

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 19:56:17 2023 No.2590163 >>2590021 Or... its an expression meant to convey a point? Artificial barriers to competition provide short term gain, but long term instability and loss. What precicely is your 99th percentile brain having trouble comprehending here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 20:24:02 2023 No.2590181 >>2590163 >Or... its an expression meant to convey a point? No, it's words that have meaning. You, being a midwit, use it just to add shit to your sentence. I bet you use "per se" a lot too

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 20:40:45 2023 No.2590187

>>2587541
Oh yeah that's only six years of my life to become a journeyman working for some Jewish union doing niggerwork and kissing ass and playing politics.
Fuck that shit man.

I'm redoing the electric in my house and flipping it.
I'll provide my own lucrative work. How's that leather taste?
>>2587172
Are you? If you fuck shit up on a job, it's gonna fuck you up financially regardless.

Whether it's astronomical insurance rates, that fuck your career, or a declaration of bankruptcy, is the same difference.
You need to not fuck up. Cert or no cert. If you can't guarantee your work is safe, you got learning to do.
>>2586887
You bet they do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 21:07:34 2023 No.2590205 >>2590163 >Artificial barriers to competition provide short term gain, but long term instability and loss How exactly do they provide this "short term gain"? Elaborate on the long term instability and loss too, please

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 21:20:20 2023 No.2590209

>>2590205
Because only the over qualified ((((((professionals))))))) get to do the work, and they charge a premium.
The long term instability and loss comes from a lack of competition keeping prices down and quality high.

I've seen master electricians fuck shit up intentionally.
I attempted to explain to the man of means that had hired us both that he was fucking it up, and the dude had no idea what I was talking about.
He trusted the((((expert))))).
Which gives him a free card to fuck shit up and drag his feet and make shit more expensive and time consuming because he charges 120/hr and thinks that's cheap cause muh certification.

So then society as a whole suffers from the lack of competition and good ole boy bullshit, while the electrician makes short term gains by solving manufactured problems and performing unnecessary work. And even that, is performed slowly.

That's when I show up and do it with harbor freight tools for 30/hr in half the time

Fucking cocksuckers
Fuck the cert
Fuck the nec
Fuck fluke
Skills and basic tools>everything else

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 21:26:10 2023 No.2590215 >>2590209 >I wildly underbid a contractor, and do things with no warranty, permits, inspections, training, or insurance >oh yes I only take cash, don't call me back ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 21:27:27 2023 No.2590216 >>2590209 Sounds pretty good for the other guy. The advice is to BE the other guy

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:18:48 2023 No.2590244

>>2590215
I only take cash, after the job is done and it works.
And yeah you call me back. To fix other shit.
I did a plumbing job the other day, replaced a cartridge in a shower faucet.

Week later guy calls me back and said he had a leak.
I go over there and cut open the wall, and it's the fitting going to an adjacent shower valve connected to the same pipes I was working on. Damn valves weren't even mounted to anything other than the pipes! First one was inaccessible, sandwiched between the two fiberglass shower stalls. Second one though, I put some blocking in there for him.
I had anticipated this, and used a shark bite on it I picked up on the way there. I accepted my blame in the matter, but noted the corrosion on the fitting, and explained it had been imperceptibly leaking for awhile, my slight jostling of the pipes was the straw that broke the back. So I asked for gas and material money, 20$.
He gave me 50
Just called me back earlier. Gonna do some new fixtures and a receptacle.
It's not in my interest to half ass anything.

You just never dealt with a decent contractor.
Hahahaha go call big corp electrician USA!!!!!!
great reviews on Yelp!
And pay for it lol.
>>2590216
I've got morals. We live in a society, you know lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 22:24:52 2023 No.2590248 >>2590244 >I've got morals Then don't fucking say "it's le good short term, but le bad long term!" if it's not true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 23:01:35 2023 No.2590274 >>2590209 >30 per hr Please tell me this is just a hobby then. because if it's your full time job you should absolutely be charging no less than 50. I charge 75hr on my own jobs. I get paid 30 when I work for the boss.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 23:06:28 2023 No.2590279

>>2589779
>You also have to know how to troubleshoot, which is the biggest hurdle for most of the dumb fuck electricians out in the field.

Absolutely agree. I'm an electrician and it always surprised me how bad other electricians were at troubleshooting. I think I'm just being logical but that's over their heads sometimes. I did a job once where someone's dishwasher didn't have power. Apparently it took two guys two days to try to figure it out and they gave up. I was over there for like an hour and a half and I was done. The dishwasher wasn't connected to anything and the box that it was connected to was also not spliced in the box above it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:18:03 2023 No.2590314

>>2590274
I get to show up kind of whenever, and if I take a while to do the job it's not a big problem, I get a lot of advertising through word of mouth, and I get to help people have repairs done that otherwise couldn't afford them.

It's not all about the money man. I like to make enough to get by maybe A little extra...
For me it's about the love of The Craft.
I'd rather charge little and have the freedom to do the work basically however and whenever I want.
If I want to get creative and try to save some money rebuilding something that usually isn't rebuilt... And it fails.... No one's to worked up about it I'll show up in a few days and replace it according to proper procedure and it's not a big deal because the customer knows they're saving a couple hundred dollars regardless.

I could charge a lot more and in the past I have, and it creates a very high stress work day.
I'd rather charge little and have a guaranteed pleasant work day, with the space in it for me to enjoy what I'm doing.
>>2590248
The way anon meant it, it is true.
Fuck the union
Fuck the NEC
Jannies, trannies, and inspector nannies tongue my anus

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:18:54 2023 No.2590317 >>2590314 >It's not about the money Then you aren't operating a business or being a tradesman, you are a weekend handyman

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:32:48 2023 No.2590329

>>2590317
That can rewire a house or plumb it, for half the cost you charge.

Hey...
What's the difference between a weekend handyman that can fix everything, and works all week long,
And a((((((((professional)))))))) that works on the weekends and charges twice as much for the same work???

I'll jack your work in a heartbeat sir. It isn't I undercharging. You're overcharging.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 00:38:30 2023 No.2590333 >>2590329 the professional is insured, licensed, and paying taxes.... The home owner can then sell the house without hiding anything that was done...

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 02:01:35 2023 No.2590380

>>2590314
>It's not all about the money man. I like to make enough to get by maybe A little extra...

I mean it kind of is if that's what you're doing to make a living.
>For me it's about the love of The Craft.

And what the fuck is this shit man. I mean I take pride into work that I do cuz you kind of need to if you're going to do a good job. But damn.
>I could charge a lot more and in the past I have, and it creates a very high stress work day.

How does this make the job more stressful? I'm only stressed out when I've quoted for a certain amount of time and I'm running right up against it. No one likes to be quoted a number and then later on have to be quoted a different larger number. That's just me not be good at estimating.
>Fuck the union
>Fuck the NEC
>Jannies, trannies, and inspector nannies tongue my anus

I agree with this though. Independence is the key to happiness.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 03:04:02 2023 No.2590419

>>2590333
Repairs to pre-existing stuff don't need to be hid
>>2590380
I believe in contributing what I can, and taking what I need. The accumulation of wealth beyond that doesn't interest me, my contentment is a choice, and beyond the survival needed to make that choice, or achieve that state of mind or whatever you wanna call it, income generation isn't that relevant to me. It's just a game at that point. With the ultimate goal being my happiness, stress and deadlines is the enemy. Monotony too. I hate the procedures. I like to try to come up with new ways to fix things, to manufacture parts or make tools, too improvise really, but achieve the same quality of work. That can be a process of trial and error, so charging little gives me the freedom to do that. It lowers the customers expectation from "everything will be done perfectly, and quickly"
To "this weird guy is gonna make this work for half the normal cost, but it might take a little longer, or hell have to come back again, but that's cool cause +500$ in my account" that's obviously less stressful. And fun.

The whole dynamic changes man. With trust between me and the customer, the focus is on helping him, as inexpensively as possible.

The job becomes a game. Rather than perform x task per a contract for y money, in order to legally obligate the customer to pay, it's just a human being with skill repairing shit, helping a person with skills in other areas maintain his home. The focus moves to providing genuine assistance, with room for experimentation, and unconventional means, and if time or cost changes or goes out of expectations, it's no big deal.

You can't operate like that off a contract. With your insurance and shit.
I first and foremost ply my trade, to help my neighbors.
The living I make from it is incidental.
I don't like living in a world driven by greed, and am the change I want to see.

I like pissing off bootlicking union electricians too. Hehehe.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 03:09:03 2023 No.2590422

>>2590333
Also, in the USA, electrical work just needs to pass inspection. The person installing it doesn't need to be certified lol. Well that's how it is in my state anyway. And of course repairs don't need inspected at all.
No need to hide anything!
Pay through the nose for your illusion of security dude. You think you're getting one over on me?
> Hrhrhrhrhr I would never hire you!
Hrhrhrhrhr you're gonna pay.
And my work speaks for itself. I'm proven. Shits really not all today complicated.
Just gotta take time in the beginning to truly understand, in a practical capacity, electrical theory. That's a bit of reading but once you got it, it's smooth sailing from there.
Those certs and associated Jewry are for the fools, who are soon separated from thier money.
Or time.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 03:34:59 2023 No.2590437

>>2590419
hmm that's a pretty admirable way to work honestly. that is a big reason why i want to stay residential. i like talking to the owners and making them comfortable and making them happy. showing them neat things they wouldnt have known about and showing off my work when its good. a really happy customer makes jobs a lot more satisfying than just laying pipe all day in an empty warehouse for someone who won't even notice if you even did anything. i got into the trades because i wanted a job people needed. and i like fulfilling people's needs. feeling useful. and there are no truer people than an average homeowner. not company boses or property managers.

but its all not worth it if i cant live comfortably financially. thats why im doing it at all. i like a big monetary safety net. so i dont have to worry about what i can and cant afford, and in case of any accidents. i dont need to be a millionaire and i dont want fancy things. it feels really great doing a good job for nice people that like you and also going home with $600 at the end of a day. it wont feel nearly as good for $250

consumerism and money can be a curse, but theres no denying how much of society is dependent on you having money. and also, ive had two jobs where after i told them the price they were astounded how little it cost. and thats me charging 75 an hour. so for your own sake, charge a little more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 05:43:50 2023 No.2590487 >>2590181 >No, it's words that have meaning. Thats what i said...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 05:46:38 2023 No.2590489 >>2590248 They said its good for THE GUYA in the short term, you illiterate fuck.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:17:04 2023 No.2590498

>>2590437
And what about the sake of the community sir?
No.
It's not right that person has to work four or five hours to pay me for one hour of my work.
Am I truly contributing that much more than they are? Probably not.

Sigh.
Though you're not wrong to an extent. Causing charging basically the same amount per hour since when I started doing this when I didn't know how to do electric or plumbing.
I suppose it's growing up a little bit but that's in correlation to my skills.
I really haven't adjusted for inflation at all. And that's over a course of 5 to 10 years.

Still it feels good to help people out. I end up doing a lot of jobs for people that really can't afford to pay me much at all. Though I do earn their appreciation then consideration. Most people just go wow I saved $500 that guy was kind of an idiot haha. Got em!

My relationships with those people generally quickly dissolve. They try to take advantage and squeeze more out of me and I catch on pretty quick.
BUT....
Some people see what I'm trying to do and return the favor. Before you know it you build up a lot of trust really quick, and a lot of good s*** can sprout from that type of business relationship. Really just any relationship in general. I've been burned plenty but I have a short list of people I can call for work whenever I want it, that trust me completely, and who I trust completely.
I don't know man ever since I started working this way and backed away from the money, it's just been so much less stressful. I usually genuinely enjoy doing my job in the moment. Laying pex is really nice when if you f****** it doesn't even matter you can just go get another fitting and come back tomorrow sometime.
Or try and get it all done today if that's what you feel like doing.
I just kind of wake up and build s***. There's as much complexity and b******* as I feel like handling in that context and after that point I just kind of go home and it's not a problem.

I'll take a pay cut for that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:23:25 2023 No.2590500 >>2590437 What if I said for all our sakes charge little as you can??? That might be some s*** huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:24:26 2023 No.2590501 >>2590500 Charge as little as you can*

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:32:38 2023 No.2590739 >>2590500 Its almost like theres some sort of... dynamic involved. Some sort of balancing act. A kind of invisible conceptual force. A hand of some sort, if you will.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 01:43:50 2023 No.2591767 This thread is so cringe. I'm going into welding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 02:23:04 2023 No.2591774 >>2590422 I'd never pay someone else, I'd do my own home electrical work, its all piss easy... Repairing the drywall afterwards is more complicated than hooking up romex to a switch/socket

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 03:15:16 2023 No.2591799

Here to back my HARD WORKING freedom bros.
Fuck unions, and fuck entitled union boomer tradies.
You're literally commies, and I fucking hate commies.

The most dysgenic, degenerate, bootlicking fucks that couldn't support themselves without 300 organizations of middle managers and corrupt mafia fronts propping up their "trade."

>HURR DURR HAVE FUN HIRING MEXICANS
Kek, the beauty of FREE MARKET means I don't HAVE to hire Mexicans, OR a corrupt, lazy, greasy fucking union "professional" either.

I can hire the honest hardworking handyman, or, worst comes to worst, I can do it myself.
BECAUSE I'M NOT A GAY FUCKING COMMIE FUCK.

God Bless and I Love Freedom.
To fellow freedom-lovers, don't mind the lazy union retards - 99% of people are stupid NPCs now, and 4chan is no exception.
They'll just worship their unions and gubbermint bullshit because it gives them a way to gatekeep honest professionals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:31:01 2023 No.2591836 >>2591799 Youre based but also type too much, cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 06:59:07 2023 No.2591906 >>2590500 Once I start working 40 hours a week only on side jobs then maybe I'll lower my prices. And maybe once the cost of literally everything goes down then I'll lower my prices. And maybe fuck off I'll charge what I want. Free market and whatever

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 08:06:17 2023 No.2591926 >>2591906 >gets outbid Free market and whatever

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 22:45:24 2023 No.2593244 >>2591926 I have no problem with this. I'm not going to work for less than I've decided im worth. If other people value their time less, than that's fine with me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 01:24:33 2023 No.2593336 >>2593244 Thats very childish. You dont decide what your labor is worth, anon. The person buying it does.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 02:20:50 2023 No.2593362
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>state doesn't even require you to get a contractors license
>State doesn't even require you to be be bonded and insured
>State merely asks for a one time payment of $35 to register as a contractor
I fucking love it here

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 02:44:24 2023 No.2593377 >>2593336 And some people are willing to spend more or less for the same labor. I'll work with people who agree with me on my rates. If I want to work with everyone I'll just charge $1 an hour. But I don't and won't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 02:55:26 2023 No.2593381 >>2593377 >ill only work for people who overpay Lmao even

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 03:07:55 2023 No.2593394 >>2585382 Man for all the right wing shit on this site yall are surprisingly socialist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 03:28:22 2023 No.2593401 >>2593394 Implying the right wing and socialism are mutually exclusive

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 03:40:40 2023 No.2593403 >>2593362 >TYRONES RELIABLE JENKEM AND HIGH VOLTAGE Sounds like a nightmare

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 03:58:03 2023 No.2593411 >>2593394 You mean like... Nationalist but also socialist? Yeah there are a few people like that here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 04:03:54 2023 No.2593416 It's 1800 hours in my country and I would never hire some retarded chucklefuck to work on my house who couldn't even pass the apprenticeship but passes himself off as an electrician

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 04:13:07 2023 No.2593420 >>2593381 I'll lmao on my way to the bank to cash my checks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 04:17:39 2023 No.2593421 >>2593420 For now, lmao. Imagine basking in an inherently unstable market strategy. Wall street wept.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 15:51:20 2023 No.2593670

i've got an interview with the jatc committee in about 4 hours. i'm nervous as fuck especially since I don't have in diy hobbies and have worked the last 6 years as a receiver at a grocery store, i've looked up a pdf of the questions they ask and I'm gonna have to bs some of these ones that ask about projects i've done. I got a 7/9 on the test and Im hoping the rest of the candidates are too stupid or on drugs to compete since this is oklahoma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:26:22 2023 No.2593725 >Only 576 We have to go to class eight hours a week for five years, here, with 5000 hours of on the job working time. Don't like it, don't become an electrician.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:28:04 2023 No.2593729 >>2586150 >I break the law so I can be paid less You sound like a Mexican. Post your hand to prove you're white.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:29:27 2023 No.2593732 >>2587144 Being a certified electrician exempts you from criminal liability for anything except gross negligence. You're still civilly liable for shit you do, but you won't go to prison like that dumb nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:32:15 2023 No.2593733 >>2589779 I once watched an organized in Journeyman of twenty years spend a week and a half trying to figure out why one circuit had 20 extra volts and another circuit 20 less. Some people are just retards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:35:50 2023 No.2593738 >>2590329 No, you're just a nigger scab. I don't really give a fuck about residential, but you sound like a cuckold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 19:56:14 2023 No.2593824 >>2593670 It's just a formality. The JATC is desperate for new blood outside of, like, Local 1 and New York.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 13:32:02 2023 No.2594191

>>2593824
The guys were nice enough, i got pretty mixed signals but based on how ot works i dont think even they know where ill land in the ranking, one guy made it seem like im all set but the other still gave the speil about what i can do if im too far down the list to get a call. At the end of the day it really depends on how i stack up to the other candadites. They seem to like that i said im always on time when i had the opportunity to sell myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 07:47:37 2023 No.2594811 >>2594191 Everyone says that shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 23:20:10 2023 No.2595293 >>2593733 why would it be like that though are we talking about an american system with a center tap transformer feeding a house?

Anonymous Sat Apr 8 11:54:35 2023 No.2595630

>>2594811
i said more than that but one of the interviewers said "thats the impotant one" so its at least necessary to say. I got a 91 on the interview score, idk how generous they are, for all i know most people might manage a 90, gotta wait till i see the rankings list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 02:02:24 2023 No.2596717 File: 619 KB, 498x243, right_on.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2586150 Based. Electricity isn't hard, and the laws are gay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 02:43:53 2023 No.2596730 Bros i've been in marketing for many years, but build all my own furniture, car repairs etc. What electrical route should I take?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 16:05:59 2023 No.2596957 >>2596730 Ham radio route

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 18:08:21 2023 No.2597001 >>2585382 I have more hours in euro truck sim you fucking pussy

Anonymous Tue Apr 11 02:46:36 2023 No.2597273

>>2590419
>>2590498
Impossibly based. Where are you located?
I'm a programmer dying to do what you do temporarily, to learn how to fix things and to meet random people. I assumed I'd be able to find a "master handyman" to apprentice with, but it turns out there's all kinds of regulatory bullshit that I can't feel good about complying with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 02:57:01 2023 No.2597278 File: 61 KB, 300x300, compressed george noory.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2597001 sure you do

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