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2544282 No.2544282 [Reply] [Original]

How do I get past my fear of these /diy/?

>> No.2544287

>Face shield
>Safety Glasses
>Respirator
>Earplugs
>Thick gloves
>Keep the guard on
>No loose clothing
>No loose jewelry
>Be aware of your surroundings
>Make sure you are using the right tool/wheel for whatever you're working on
>Grind on the side of the wheel that, if it catches something, will launch away from you rather than towards you

>> No.2544303

>>2544287
Doesn't hurt to have a condom on when you get near one either

>> No.2544324

>>2544303
This. I slipped into OP’s mom last time I was using a cutoff wheel. I would’ve caught something nasty if I wasn’t protected.

>> No.2544382
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>>2544282
Have you tried not being afraid? When I was a kid, I was afraid or angle grinders. Then my dad told me to cut off a bolt head and left me to it. I didn't want to look like a pussy so I just stopped being afraid. Now I use angle grinders in all types of dangerous situations. Never had a wheel break on me, never got hurt besides some small metal splinters to the forehead if I have to take the guard off. If it helps, I'm still skeeved out by table saws, but I use them regularly; being able to overcome a fear and put it out of your mind is a good skill to learn.
>tldr; just don't be scared

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By trying

>> No.2544426

>>2544282
Just keep the guard on and use light pressure, don't mash it down to try and speed things up. Also as mentioned above keep the debris flinging away from you and don't catch anything on fire.

>> No.2544464

>>2544287

What this guy said.

but don't wear gloves. Gloves and power tools don't mix. When you wear a glove and you are using a power tool you are giving the tool a better chance of doing horrible damage to you. If you are gloveless and the saw nicks you, then maybe you just get a cut, but if you have a glove on and it contacts the saw, the glove material can force your hand into the cutting blade.

Also, always use 2 hands with an angle grinder. Never one. Oh and disconnect the battery or power cable when changing blades.

>> No.2544480

>>2544464
Good points
>>2544282
For some reason I don't get scared. I think I should but it doesn't happen.
I prefer the gas powered 2 stroke saws.

I use earplugs/headphones, goggles and make sure the sparks aren't going to fuck anything up.
I also take it easy on the pressure against the cut object.

>> No.2544487

Take the guard off so you can raw dog that fucker and make it your bitch...

>> No.2544489

>>2544282

You don't. In this case your fear of these is reasonable. Let other people deal with them.

>> No.2544493

>>2544282
firm grip, stare it down, establish dominance. You will have no xploding discs by sheer force. Tell it you get a better grinder if it fails you

>> No.2544507

>>2544489
This is the answer. An angle grinder is, in my opinion, very rarely the best tool for the job. When you use them for things they *are* the best tool for the job for (removing mill scale from steel with a flap disk, for example) they are relatively safe. Cutoff wheels are genuinely dangerous and I will go to great lengths to not use one. Get yourself a die grinder for small work and a proper set of saws for larger stuff. They are much cheaper than an ER visit.

Get a corded one with a paddle switch. The cord limits its reach, which is a safety feature. You shouldn't be using an angle grinder somewhere that you don't have power, because if something happens, you don't want to be unreachable. I have the Bosch GWS10, and it's fantastic.

And I'm sure I'll be called gay for my great level of caution, but I've personally seen enough brutal zip disk injuries for a lifetime. I one time watched a guy drop an angle grinder with one of those fucking "chainsaw" blades and stood in horror as it ran up his leg and into his crotch. He was in the hospital for a month. Don't fuck around, you only get one body.

>> No.2544855

millions of uneducated migrant workers use them all the time and only the most special needs of them get hurt.
you aren't dumber than those people, right?

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>>2544507
Gayyyy

>> No.2544869

>>2544282
you just have to give it a whirl haha

>> No.2544905

>>2544866
Nice new gloves, with your nice new angle grinder, with your nice new saw blade.

>> No.2544959

>>2544464
Welders wear APPROPRIATE gloves with angle grinders all the time and they provide a useful degree of protection. Agree on the rest though. I would never wear gloves working a lathe for example, but with proper glove like Tillman TIG gloves and both hands where they belong gloves are not an issue with angle grinders and protect against hot sharp metal and rotating wire brushed.

Cutoff wheels are properly used by the millions every year. Keep the guard installed and aim the grinder away from you.

>>2544507
Ever see a grinder injury when the operator used it properly? There is no excuse for dropping one and no excuse for not positioning oneself properly or not wearing proper PPE including a full face shield.

OP should note almost no DIYers need a 9" angle grinders. Most useful size is 6" (for the cutting wheels) which also take 4-1/2" accessories

>> No.2544966

>>2544464
welder here, I only use grinders when necessary because I'm not shit.
paint department throws a hissy fit over scale but It's typically just flap disks that we use unless you fuck up royally. we wear heavy lined gloves and it doesn't affect anything. the one more dangerous thing is we have pneumatic tools where the trigger safety wears down and it'll idle or spin with low pressure and cut through your tendons and veins before you know

>> No.2545287

>>2544866
last pic you will ever take m8

>> No.2545292
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2545292

>Poor mans safety glasses

>> No.2545518

are discs really exploding that often? are people pushing into them or something?

>> No.2545533

>>2545518
cheap discs explode

>> No.2545556

>>2545533
Every disc can explode if they're damaged which can be simply because the packaging felt down on the ground earlier before in storage.

>> No.2545616

>>2545518
often times people are using the thin cutting disks for grinding tasks, leading to breakage. Also they can be damaged due to rough handling, which you won't be able to necessarily notice by simply looking at them.

And some people are just rough and dumb with the operation of the grinder.

>> No.2545623

>>2545518
It's happened to me a few times where I'm cutting things that are close or embedded into another kind of material, e.g. had a metal cutting resin disk explode when I went through a rusted bolt and glanced the brickwork behind it.

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>>2545292

>> No.2545712

>>2544966
>welder here, I only use grinders when necessary because I'm not shit.

Must be structural or have a fitter if pipe welder but those guys still grind their tacks.

>> No.2545719

>>2544464
>Also, always use 2 hands with an angle grinder. Never one. Oh and disconnect the battery or power cable when changing blades.
Kek I always ignore these
>safety guy comes around and tells me how to use my grinder
>MY grinder that I brought from MY home and bought with MY money
>fuck off this is my tool
>I'll listen to you when I use shitty company tools
Never had any of these scares that people complain about

>> No.2545769

>>2544282
why are you afraid of angle grinders? they're very basic tools

>> No.2545792

>>2545623
>It's happened to me a few times

Sounds like excessive pressure. Quality discs like Pferd and SAIT (I buy boxes from the local welding supply or online) hold up very well. I let the disc float and maintain control, and importantly I rock it forward and backward in the plane of rotation to avoid binding like the industrial abrasive cutoff saw I used at my first job.

I prefer 6" grinders for the reach, easy control and edge speed, and modded the guards on my 4-1/2" cordless grinders to 6" by variously buying a 6" guard and removing the internal nubs (DeWalt) or cutting and welding (Makita, Milwaukee) to combine their mounts with 6" guard shells. Works great.

>> No.2545797

>>2544959
Agree, leather welding gloves good for angle grinder, cloth gloves bad.

>> No.2545798

>>2545769
Google image search angle grinder accidents. It's worth having a healthy respect for the damage those things can do when not handled properly.

>> No.2545807

>>2545798
any tool can kill or maim someone when used improperly, with approximately the same ease. people just get fucked up about grinders in particular

>> No.2545813

>>2545798
Angle grinder explosions happen when you buy garbage quality discs, or you twist the grinder and subsequently the disc, while its cutting. lrn2cutstraight and you won't have problems

>> No.2545814

>>2544287
You’d get laughed off my job you fucking pussy

>> No.2545821
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2545821

Never let your guard down.
Learn the right way to operate something and the reason why most accidents happen with that particular tool (literaly, 10 minutes on youtube can save you a lifelong of shame).
Again, don't lower your guard just because some machines looks very safe. I say this as someone who actually cut a finger off on a really safe benchsaw.

And trust yourself. Don't rush things and don't do retard shit.

>> No.2545822

>>2545821
>benchsaw
bandsaw. Sorry, ESL.

>> No.2545844

>>2544959
>>2544966
>>2544959

I agree with what you guys are saying about welding and gloves, and other types of construction and gloves.

But any time I have a cutting wheel or saw, I do not use gloves. I think they give you a false sense of security. You should always cut carefully in a way that there is no chance your hand or fingers are gonna hit that blade.

>> No.2545961

>>2545792
you should never do that
4" grinders have bigger RPM and many 6" cutting wheels are not rated for it (could explode from centrifugal force)

>> No.2545984

>>2544489
This.
Angle grinders will fuck you up.
The danger is that they can kick in strange directions with small changes in angle.

>> No.2545997

>>2544905
Well I didn’t want to take the pic with my bloody gloves and the last blade is in an evidence locker.

>> No.2546077

>>2545814
and I'll laugh when the government hands you an enormous, bankruptcy-inducing fine for endangering your workers and facilitating a work culture that views safety as a joke.

Fuckers like you are the scum of the earth. Your employees deserve to go home each day with all of their limbs and appendages intact, even if that means you can't live out your alpha male fantasies. Eat shit.

>> No.2546203

>>2546077
Just when you prove what a total smoldering cunt you are, you raise the bar. It’s a shame we can’t meet id bitch slap the living dog shit out of your bitch mouth you’re a cunt

>> No.2546208

If you can’t use a side grinder stick to doing nails and hair faggots

>> No.2546214

>>2544287
This is so fucking cringey. You must be over 60 and afraid of everything. Safety Boomer you embarrassed me just reading it. Jesus what a pussy. You forgot to mention setting up safety cones in. 30 perimeter. Let’s me guess you’re the homo at Home Depot holding the red flags in front of the fork lift..haahahahahahahh

>> No.2546215

>>2544282

Hey OP, You aren't using one of those cheapo harbor freight grinders, Are you? have a cheap $9.99 drill master with a stone wheel and the damn thing sounds and vibrates like its getting ready to explode at any moment.

>> No.2546251

>>2546077
Do you even work construction dude? The number one safety principle is "don't be a retard". That means putting your body and the material in such positions as to not need a ridiculous amount of gear. If you cut off some fingers using bad technique, that is on you, not the employer.

>> No.2546297

>>2545814
Hey look its the supervisors lap dog. Good goy keep ruining your body and struggle through old age if you make it that far.

>> No.2546336

>>2544464
>but don't wear gloves.
Same, I don't like wearing gloves around anything spinning, or rotating that could catch my hand, power saws, sanders, chainsaw, etc.

>> No.2546341

This thread is full of arm chair faggots
I use an angle grinder daily in metal fab, no safety glasses or anything else. It doesn’t have a guard and the cord is cracking and taped at the body of the fucking thing. I do have a guard on my cut off tool. Unless you use these tools on the regular shut the fuck up you’re making a fool of yourself

>> No.2546350

Mine throws sparks right in my face that gets kinda painful after an hour or two. Closing my eyes helps

>> No.2546358

Omg asbestos, exploding discs, ladders, lathe chucks, skill saws, chains saws
I’m surprised and of you cunts ever leave the house

>> No.2546372

>>2546341
I use an angle grinder daily with no guard, no handle, no safety glasses, using my only remaining hand and my three remaining fingers, and the cord fell off so I replaced it with hanger wire. I welded carbide bits to the face of the disc and I overhand swing it at the piece like a hammer to make the work go faster. So don't FUCKING talk about angle grinders, you PUSSY.

>> No.2546378

>>2546372
What she said

>> No.2546379

>>2546372
Grinding discs don’t cut your fingers off you limp dick queer….get away from me before I make you cry bitch

>> No.2546380

by using it. the fear is healthy and never really goes away. that's a good thing, i was taught to use it without the handle witch forced me to always see exactly in what proximity to the disc my hands were. it's my fav tool.

>> No.2546384

>>2544282
>how do I get over my fear
Stop being a pussy and turn it on and attack a piece of metal until you aren't afraid anymore
Don't forget eye and ear protection and gloves,also update your insurance policy and will

>> No.2546386

If you’re afraid of it find another hobby / job like say a waitress in a queer Bart,4t2

>> No.2546388

>>2546384
Go away….gloves, ear and eye protection
Make sure your skirt don’t get sucked in princess

>> No.2546390

>>2544464
>but don't wear gloves. Gloves and power tools don't mix.
>>2546336
>I don't like wearing gloves around anything spinning
Don't wear gloves (generally, there are exceptions) when using stationary power tools where you manipulate the work piece or controls. Do wear gloves when using hand-held power tools where your hands are on the tool.

Angle grinders produce sparks, heat, and vibration, and they're high-speed low-torque tools. Gloves provide a favorable risk balance against the hazards they present.

>> No.2546391

>>2546390
Save my manicure…queer

>> No.2546392

>>2544866
The blade is on backwards.

>> No.2546395

Sparks heat vibration oh my…
Tip make sparks fly away from you
Heat…don’t touch the metal you just ground on
Vibration….oh brother…eye roll

>> No.2546402

>>2546395
>Tip make sparks fly away from you
>Heat…don’t touch the metal you just ground on
Or you can wear gloves and cut whatever in whatever position you want, and handle your work pieces without waiting for them to cool.

>Vibration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibration_white_finger
>suck up the nerve damage bro

>> No.2546403

>>2546402
Said the larper that’s never used an angle grinder
Here’s my tip skippy
Be smarter than what you’re working with

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>>2546403
I get maybe five hundred hours of angle grinder time each year at work. Pic related is one kind I use, a 125 CFM air grinder.

>Be smarter than what you’re working with
Like not making problems for yourself that you need to be "smart" to deal with, rather than focusing on productivity?

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>>2544866
This guy gets it.

>> No.2546447

>>2545518
The answer is no

>> No.2546471

>>2546430
Sure you do bubbles sure you do

>> No.2546495

>>2544464
>>2546336
I agree. Furthermore they give you the illusion of protection, leading you to take risks you never would with bare hands even though fucking up with gloves on would be just as bad if not worse.

>> No.2546537

>>2546495
>even though fucking up with gloves on would be just as bad if not worse.
It takes a fraction of a second for an angle grinder to cut through a leather or kevlar glove, but that's a fraction of a second it's not cutting into your hand.

>> No.2546573

>>2546214
kek

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>>2544287
>We need to actually get shit done son because if we don't fill out this impossible order in this instantaneous work space environment, our boss won't be able to afford going to the strip club tonight and doing cocaine.

>> No.2548978

Sparks go backwards

>> No.2548981
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>>2544282
Calibrate safety squits with bench grinder

>> No.2548999

>>2544464
always wear leather gloves
worst thing is getting your skin scorched by the sparks
not like a cutting disc grabs fabric anyway

>> No.2549016

>>2544282

>> No.2549033

>>2546203
someone's triggered

>> No.2549131

>>2546214
>You forgot to mention setting up safety cones

in my workplace if you use a angle grinder outside a designated welding area you need to call the company firefighting station and tell them you set up fiberglass blankets fire extinguishers and do after searches for smoldering fire every 30 minutes after grinding.

>> No.2549181

Some yall passes don't feel the fear and do it anyways, and it really shows. Wasn't aware so many anons on the /diy/ board were raised by women.
https://youtu.be/Epscc8Z5niQ

>> No.2549940

>>2548659
this is unironically the chad move, because bossman will likely cover for you when its your turn. also most of the time that's all bullshit anyway to see how their people react to a rush order

>> No.2550049

>>2544282
Meth, you need to smoke meth.. Then you will want to use one at 3am every night!

>> No.2550053

>>2548981
>chinese welder torture

>> No.2550058

Use proper safety gear and get used to it. Start off incredibly nervous and death grip it then eventually you'll relax around it. Then one day you'll get complacent and drive one into your foot

>> No.2550079

>>2549181
Doug is a tool, but he's right this time.

>> No.2551188

>>2544287
Get some kneepads too so you can suck the safety supervisors dick off later too

>> No.2551370

I've got some 5mm thick steel tubing to cut through, what's the cheapest thing I can buy to do the job without killing myself? I've got a hacksaw and an angle grinder, I used the hacksaw last time I had to cut 3mm steel pipe and I wanted to kill myself after half a dozen cuts.

>> No.2551394

>>2551370
Use the angle grinder and don’t kill yourself?

>> No.2551598

>>2544282
Have you tried not being a pussy?

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>>2544282
By not being a faggot lmao

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>>2544282
don't slip and get it caught in your pants
it hurts

>> No.2551760

I don’t understand why everyone here’s so afraid of angle grinders I’ve used one almost every day for 15 years. Yeah I’ve been bit a few times but it’s not like a lathe that’ll take you for a ride, it’s a deep nick at worst and you don’t even bleed, they cauterize you on the spot.

>> No.2552649

>>2551188
top fucking kek

>> No.2553029

>>2544287
Shut off workplace distractions like music, cell, etc.

>> No.2553118

>>2545844
>You should always cut carefully in a way that there is no chance your hand or fingers are gonna hit that blade
No shit, but why not both? Operate it carefully AND wear gloves for the stuff that you can't possibly control or predict.