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Which setup is the best?
Advantages?
Disadvantages?

A. Isolated side is just hot and neutral, ground and neutral not tied, no connected ground.

B. Isolated side has ground and neutral tied, but not grounded.

C. Isolated side has ground and neutral tied, but is connected to it's own grounding rod, not tied to house's main ground.

D. Isolated side has ground connected to the house's main ground. Neutral is not tied to ground at isolation transformer.

E. Isolated side has ground connected to it's own grounding rod, not tied to neutral, not tied to house's main ground.

>> No.2414444

>>2414440
>Which setup is the best?
>Advantages?
>Disadvantages?
>A. Isolated side is just hot and neutral, ground and neutral not tied, no connected ground.
>B. Isolated side has ground and neutral tied, but not grounded.
>C. Isolated side has ground and neutral tied, but is connected to it's own grounding rod, not tied to house's main ground.
>D. Isolated side has ground connected to the house's main ground. Neutral is not tied to ground at isolation transformer.
>E. Isolated side has ground connected to it's own grounding rod, not tied to neutral, not tied to house's main ground.
What exactly is the logic going through your head writing a post like this? Are you an AI? Why list out facts that don't need to be in a list and are mostly redundant even to the ignorant?

>> No.2414445

>>2414444
>Not an answer
>Probably hasn't a clue about the subject matter himself

>> No.2414453

>>2414440
If you know what you are doing you do not need any grounding on the isolated side. To provide protection similar to what the US NEC requires, you'd connect neutral and ground to a suitable earth ground, whether it's an independent one, or the one used by your main service panel (C or F which I have added).

>> No.2414465

>>2414453
>you'd connect neutral and ground to a suitable earth ground, whether it's an independent one, or the one used by your main service panel (C or F which I have added).
exactly the opposite, once you connect the isolated side ground to "real" ground, you lose isolation, which kind of defeats the purpose of an isolation transformer

>> No.2414471

>>2414465
>isolated side ground
I meant isolated side neutral of course (or rather one of the power carrying terminals you decide will act as neutral). Isolated side Ground (if present) is or at least should be of course connected to supply ground to protect from device failures and should not be connected to neutral.

>> No.2414497

>>2414440
If you are using something that is not UH compliant, you have to isolate it from all the other UH compliant components. If you are working with signals, then there is a chance you may need one to protect your equipment from power spikes. You also do it when the power in your system is high enough to possibly cause a current leak and exposed metal can harm the operator by contacting the component.

For home and office I don't see a huge reason to have this. Most consumer electronics have some sort of power conditioning. These types of circuit methods are used often in industry.

For residential I

>> No.2414526

>>2414440
dude I ain't reading all that shit.

an isolation transformer is line and neutral come in to one side of the transformer and NOTHING is electrically connected to the other side (the secondary) wirings.

If it makes you feel better the ground can go to ground in the outlet but in most cases you don't connect ANYTHING from one side to the other because it is not isolated if you do that.

>> No.2414550

>>2414440
Here's a clue, asshole: Every transformer is an isolation transformer unless it's specifically made to not be an isolation transformer.

>> No.2414605

>>2414550
>2414550
That's basically true, but the transformer pictured has very low capacitance primary to secondary. It is needed for some measurements such as radiated EMI. It also has guaranteed isolation specifications rather than some random numbers.

>> No.2414607

>>2414605
Correction. Make that conducted rather then radiated EMI.

>> No.2414693

>>2414440
>Which setup is the best?
... ... sigh
Perhaps you'd like to provide ANY criteria?

>> No.2414720
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2414720

>>2414550
Not true.

>> No.2414818

>>2414440
OP, youre a fucking idiot. Noone wants do to your fucking homework. Go take a fucking course and fuck right off you starry eyed fucking student.

>> No.2414990

>>2414720
that's just an inductor.

>> No.2415006

>>2414720
That's a choke not a transformer

>> No.2417484

>>2414550
Autotransformers are common and provide no isolation.

>>2414990
Transformers are really just 2 inductors and a metal core

>> No.2418583

>>2417484
>Autotransformers
You mean those one kind of transformer that are specifically made to not isolate do not have isolation? I better re-think my whole stance.
>Transformers are really just 2 inductors and a metal core
V8s are really just two inline fourbangers 90° apart, but they're not quite the same thing, are they.

>> No.2418783

>>2418583
not this guy but lets not forget zigzag transformers.

>> No.2418822

>>2418783
I had to look that up. Interesting. I had no idea. In the past I have made a virtual ground for voltage measurements of a 3 wire 3 phase source using 3 resistors and 3 differential voltage probes. The zigzag would provide a much lower impedance, if that were needed.

>> No.2419798

>>2414818
Give me money then.

>> No.2419867

>>2419798
>year of our lord 2000 + 22
>wants money to take a course
even today you cant fix stupid

>> No.2421367

>>2418583
Autotransformers aren't specifically made to not isolate.
They're used because they're cheap, and they're an easy way to make a transformer with a continuously variable winding ratio.
Not isolating is just a side effect of how they work.