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Why is there so much work available in construction now? So many people can't find decent workers. Well paying jobs are all over the place, yet I hear people complaining about unemployment all the time. Are zoomers unwilling to work as tradies? Less migrants? What's going on?

t. midwestfag

>> No.1936096

>>1936090
yes, and location.
Look at the trends in urbanization and where people are unemployed vs where the jobs are.

>> No.1936100

I'm 23 and I hate my construction job. I'd much rather go back to industrial maintenance. No one wants to work with some broken down old fuck boomers that are bitter and take it out on you. If anything that makes me want to get the fuck out of the trades so that isn't me in 35 years.

>> No.1936214

>>1936090
IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE IN THE WHOLE FUCKIN' WORLD

>> No.1936230

>>1936090
Strangely enough, with covid isolating everyone, everyone's become obsessed with upgrading their homes.

... but of course the modern generations are fucking useless at doing anything themselves... maybe they're too scared of trying, I don't know.

Either way it results in a fuck load of jobs waiting to be filled.

>> No.1936264

>>1936100
>I'm 23 and I hate my construction job. I'd much rather go back to industrial maintenance.

How do I get into industrial maintenance? I hate construction too fren.

>> No.1936266

Speaking for the southwest, there has always been a serious dearth of quality workers in construction. It is only because of covid that people are actually paying attention to it now. The trades themselves are for those who decided college, or even high school, was not their thing. Imagine the resulting workforce. I was in it for about 20 years until roughly 2010. There is a reason all workers speak spanish.

>> No.1936293

unironically there has been a huge drop in cheap illegal Mexican labor

>> No.1936478

>>1936090
>Are zoomers unwilling to work as tradies? Less migrants?

This is definitely a huge part of it. The migrants are worried about their long-term prospects here, so they don't come. Zoomers are spending their lives getting stoned and jerking off in their mom's house. The pool of people who actually want to work and succeed is shrinking as the demand for labor is rising.

>> No.1936481

>>1936266
>The trades themselves are for those who decided college, or even high school, was not their thing. Imagine the resulting workforce.

Yeah, just imagine people who are able to afford a house and a car, have learned how to actually take care of the world we live in, and aren't brainwashed by leftist garbage. Horrifying.

I know that you said you've been in trades for 20 years but you are a fucking idiot if you think having a country full of drunk people who don't read nietzsche and drive pickups is somehow worse than a country of demoralized basedpersons who take public transport to and from their microscopic urban hovel. A total. Fucking. Idiot.

>> No.1936677

>>1936230
>stuck at home instead of cubicle wagecage
>it kinda sucks
>fill that void in your heart
>not with life outlook
>but with new home renovations and a granite countertop
That's what probably happened. Straight out of a GTA commercial.

>> No.1936787

>>1936090
Picture is too relevant

>> No.1936848

>>1936478
>he pool of people who actually want to work and succeed is shrinking as the demand for labor is rising.

Golly gee I wonder why there might be a labor shortage in the trades?

>> No.1936851

>>1936090
>Why so much work?
No immigrant labour. At least in NZ, who gets a lot of pacifica labourers, but likely in most other places in the world as well.
>Zoomer's in trades.
Based on my personal experiences in trades, and being a zoomer myself, is that it's just not something people consider unless they're going the full tradesperson route, which most people rarely do in this day and age.
More likely, you go through high school, enter retail as a wage slave, go to the family business, or go to university and become a professional in an industry, an academic scholar where you never leave, or just end up in retail/office jobs.
Most people in these areas don't really consider taking up a trade, because it takes ages to learn (because people expect you're kind of a dumbass, so you just have ages of time to mostly just fuck up until you reliably aren't likely to fuck up any more, as compared to uni style, where you get info-dumped and told to study), it's often physically exhausting work, being the bottom guy who can only be used for labour, unrewarding, as you're just doing shit older dudes don't want to do, and the kind of person, work place, and attitude can be confronting, next to other job types.

Personally, as a fairly fit, mentally hardy dude who's already used to taking shit, I've found it pretty worth it as a holiday job, but the average person my age, that's not already in there, naturally gravitates to physically less tiring, more mentally stimulating, but less fulfilling jobs like burger flipping or retail work. But I'll happily admit that through being on the bottom of individual value and experience, I've had some pretty shitty weeks, where every day I'd come home, mentally and physically shattered, sunburnt, dehydrated, and coated in a paste of dust, dirt, sweat and sunscreen. And for minimum wage, that's just not worth it long term.

>> No.1936884

>>1936090
>t. midwestfag
Found the problem.
The Midwest is very far from average the average American. You are a minority culturally and economically. Most Americans are urban/suburban.

>> No.1936958

>>1936090
everyone fails the drug tests

>> No.1937451

>>1936481
>how to actually take care of the world we live in
>brainwashed by leftist garbage

I'm truly sorry for you. Whatever caused brain damage that serious must have been very traumatic.

>> No.1937549

Same story in Serbia. All the good ones are going to retier soon or went to Germany a long time ago.

>> No.1937569

>>1936884
Nice bait.

>> No.1938086

>>1936090
>Apply to several Unions back to when I lived in Ohio because waaahhh tradies at all time low
>Interview with them all, one even put on on the list as 37.
>No one followed up
>Live in Indiana now
>Have to go to college to even have a shot

A part of me wants trades to fuckin burn.

>> No.1938136

nailed it right there mate. I tried the trade route myself in Aus, couldn't cut it physically and mentally and went to Uni instead.

>> No.1938365

>>1937569
>Statistics are bait.
K

>> No.1938456

>>1936264
being that young? knowing somebody
>>1936100
are you me?

>> No.1938460

>>1936090
>So many people can't find decent workers*

*for the pay they are offering

>> No.1938502

>>1938086
everything is rigged bro. everything

>> No.1938510

>>1938456
Yup. I knew someone who got me the job and they're trying to get me hired again for weekend shift. 12hrs Fri - Sun it's a based schedule because I can focus on my business the other 4 days. I only quit because I got moved to thirds from covid bs. At least quitting prompted me to learn a new skill set to work for myself because of how much I hate this new job.

>> No.1938514

>>1938510
To expand I'm glad I've had my experience with industrial and resi shit because I won't be nearly as reliant on having people come fix my shit because I have tools and enough experience to figure it out. But as far as doing this for life I'd rather be an hero.

>> No.1938536

>>1936266
College is what actually got me into it, community college here has a bunch of courses with certs/degrees for welding, car shit, electronics/electrical, etc. and some companies like the light rail promoted them as easy ins to work for them.

>> No.1938537

people my age scoff at the idea of manual/skilled labour and think it doesnt pay much. I gave a quote to a couple of friends (at a discount), told them how long it would take and they seemed insulted that i make more than.them for their shitty office job.

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1938604

>>1936214
It's made of candy canes and planes that fly like chuchu trains, and the meanest little girls 'n most innocent little boys AND YKNOW I WISH THAT I COULD GO THERE, it's a road that i have not found but when the farm is good and bought youll be there without a thought and eternity, my friend, is a long fuckin time

>>1936090
How does one make an illusion like OP's gif?

>> No.1938799

>>1938460
This all day

>> No.1938913

>>1936090
This. I almost shat when I heard they are hiring carpenters at $25 starting in Austin. Last time I looked it was $17

>> No.1938922

>>1937451
>our progress is the -only- progress
>now eat bugs and live in a closet

I'd prefer being drone-striked in a civil war than to suffer in your "benevolent utopia".

>> No.1938932

Construction is a really difficult line of work and honestly there is no real reason to pursue it unless you're some criminal wife beater who can't find employment anywhere else.

>> No.1938945

>>1936230
This is fully correct.
It needs to be paired with race to the bottom economics. People want to hire the cheapest labor and products expecting high end results. Then there is frustration at added costs because they haven't taken enough care or their home to properly install the new products.

>> No.1938950

>>1938932
Construction management isn't bad. Just get the certs, start the business, then find indentured craftsman.

>> No.1941134

>>1938537
iktf

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1941156

>>1938604
here's a much older version, this timestamp's from ~12 years ago
it's so old the person who made it might have actually died of cancer or heart disease by now

>> No.1941159 [DELETED] 

test

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1941160

>check timestamp out of curiosity
>40,000 years in future
wtf they're all like that

>> No.1941658

>>1938604
Something to do with fractals and infinite recursion. Fractals are patterns that repeat itself no matter what scale you look at them with

>> No.1941701

>>1938365
City dwellers are literally not American. They are not even human beings.

>> No.1941860

>>1936090
That's the real "white privilege"
"You" think that manual works are inferior because someone on tv keeps repeating that blue collars are retarded, others want to go to the "dreamy" california or new york to live like rats

Someone should offer blue collars cheap or free online studies.
The news mentioned that you need almost 2 million workers in 2019