/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1859431]

who’s the lowest person on the jobsite? Someone you’d never want to be.
For me, it’s the drywall delivery guys.
>imagine being the brainlet thay literally just moves drywall into stacks all day everyday, even the drywaller beaner is above him in skill.

[Anonymous No.1859436]

>>1859431
easy, machine operator.
>machine jams
>HMI says exactly where the machine jams
>lol not readin that, just gonna press reset and start again
>machine jams
>oh no why is this happening
again and again. all day, every day. I can't even imagine being so stupid.

[Anonymous No.1859451]

>>1859431
gamedev

t. gamedev

[Anonymous No.1859454]

>>1859436
>>1859451
not trades

[Anonymous No.1859460]

>>1859454
next time specify

[Anonymous No.1859479]

the lowest form of tradie is the one whose job is literally just one thing, whether it's hauling plaster, screwing up plaster, stacking bricks, tiling or building scaffolding.
I can't imagine making an entire career getting really good at one tiny aspect of my field

[Anonymous No.1859483]

>>1859479
Braindead post

[Anonymous No.1859486]

>>1859483
but he's right

[Anonymous No.1859488]

>>1859486
Scaffolding is not a lower form of tradie than the noob that has no skills and gets to do all kinds of shitty little jobs

[Anonymous No.1859502]

>>1859431

There's a form of electrical apprentice I've seen that we always called the "pigtailer." Usually the dumbest motherfucker sent over from union local. His assigned job is sitting there and pig-tailing outlets and switches all day. He doesn't even get to walk them over to where fixtures are being installed, because he'll probably go to the wrong part of the site. He just sets them on a table and the Boomer Master comes and grabs what he needs. Half the time the boomer Master will undo the tails and go for a screw connection anyway. it's some real Sisyphean shit.

[Anonymous No.1859507]

>Welcome to /diy/, a place to:

>Post and discuss /diy/ projects, ask questions regarding /diy/ topics and exchange ideas and techniques.

[Anonymous No.1859509]

>>1859507

friendly reminder /diy/ is a tradie board and always will be

[Anonymous No.1859526]

The lowest guy in general? Probably whatever mystery meat Paco the GC hired to push a broom around the jobsite and pick up trash. I’ve seen those guys take genuine abuse from guys for sweeping at the wrong time, etc.

As far as actual trades? I’ve seen some journeymen carpenters make their apprentices do some stupid fucking shit. Breaking down boxes for hours, pulling nails with a cat’s paw out of scrap demo’d wood

[Anonymous No.1859534]

>>1859488
lel, did I really have to clarify that having no skills is better than having ONE skill?
go on and make a career out of being good at one tiny aspect of your field if that's what makes you happy. all I'm saying is I'd rather kill myself than being in that kind of job for more than a year.
I've been a carpenter for 10 years and I can probably count the carpentry related jobs I haven't done on one hand and if somebody asks me to do something, odds are I can. but good for you being able to build a scaffolding of any type much faster than me

[Anonymous No.1859604]

>>1859431
Porta-pody truck driver/shit sucker.

[Anonymous No.1859626]

>>1859431
The electrician who thinks he is hot shit because he knows how to connect coloured wires. Fucken snobby cunt.

Highest person on the jobsite is the stonemason because it's the oldest and therefore most traditional and therefore most based trade.

[Anonymous No.1859638]

>>1859502
So basically the mafia job.

[Anonymous No.1859651]

Probably me (helper). Delivery guys usually operate lift or do work at the shop. Cool foreman though so I’m helping out journeymen and doing apprentice level jobs sometimes.
Real talk tho the lowest trade of all is roofing. Maybe landscaping but def roofing.

[Anonymous No.1859658]

>>1859502
>pig-tailing outlets and switches
can you explain this?
i interpret it as attaching a bunch of short unterminated wires to an outlet before installing it
but why would you ever want to do that? maybe it's because i am a euro and burger electricity sometimes seems to be from another planet
but i can't imagine why i'd ever want a pig tailed outlet let alone a hundred to make it worth having a special guy doing it

[Anonymous No.1859660]

>>1859626
Mechanic here. My brother's an electrician he holds me in high regard. Way he thinks of it, I do his job, plumbers, welders, so on.
I explained I do none of those things the way the pros do. He says I do, so to relate I explained to him how an electrical diag goes down for me 99% of the time. I'm just doing continuity 9 times out of ten I says. He goes, yeah, that's how we do it...
But still, Im 100% sure I could do none of those jobs without more practice for welding for fucks sake I make sure exhaust doesn't leak buildings don't crumble when I make a snotty weld. Training for electrician, both for plumbing and so on.

[Anonymous No.1859669]

>>1859431
The 50 year old laborer halfway through a sleeve of nips at 7 am; and this kid >>1859651, his younger self.

[Anonymous No.1859674]

>>1859651
Honestly sounds like you're on a good track doing apprentice level jobs now and again. As the mechanic>>1859660 we get what's called general service techs. They do your oil changes and tire rotations if that's all that needs done, and clean the shop up for us. When we see one we like that listens and is careful we start letting em help us with brakes and explaining how cars work in general and all that shit. It's how you move up. And most of em we just know it's not worth teaching so they'd be stuck cleaning forever. Sounds to me that they like you, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.1859679]

>>1859660
Dude like at least 3/4 electricians are retards who just rely on the one smart guy in the crew who actually knows how to trouble shoot. You don't have to be clever to pull wire, run conduit or run romex. A bricklayer could do that.

[Anonymous No.1859686]

>>1859679
He said that too. Hes moved up, I know his boss I do glass for him now and again he wants my brother to move up more but he don't like no responsibility.
Anyway, apparently half the bottom guys are straight out of county and go back regularly. He rarely knows one for more than a couple months. Drugs man, not even once.

[Anonymous No.1859688]

>>1859686
>>1859679
Oh but that doesn't count as being an electrician to me anyway. Just like being a general service tech doesn't make you a mechanic. Everyone on this board knows how to change oil and rotate their tires even if they don't usually do it themselves

[Anonymous No.1859741]

I make 22/hr doing shipping and receiving. I just open boxes, give people their shit, and cut the boxes up to make a nice stack because they pay someone else to even take that shit out

Technically I'm an apprentice but I also smoke pot so I'm too retarded to retain any of the bits of wisdom the shop boss throws my way and they don't have time to sit me on an actual machine

[Anonymous No.1859743]

>>1859688
>get my black market volvo service manual, its 7000 pages and pictures dont match up to descriptions
>just trying to change my cabin air filter
>a wiring harness flips down out of nowhere.
>doesnt reach anything
>car still runs

Well fml but I guess it's fine

I'm getting a better black market volvo tool that hopefully has a better guide in it.

[Anonymous No.1859748]

>>1859507
where the fuck are we to discuss the trades then?

[Anonymous No.1859757]

>>1859431
General labourer
Fetch, carry, clean, and even apprentices can tell you what to do

[Anonymous No.1859827]

>>1859658
>i interpret it as attaching a bunch of short unterminated wires to an outlet before installing it

That's it

>but why would you ever want to do that?

The primary reason in Commercial applications is that you can't rely on the current bypass capacity of a single fixture, so you pigtail the fixture out to a common connection with your rated conductor.

How valid that reasoning is in modern fixtures is debatable but code requires it in many places. With cheapo Chinese fixtures getting cheaper by the day, maybe it is very valid.

>Maybe it's because i am a euro and burger electricity sometimes seems to be from another planet

Fun Fact 1 - Most European commercial standards require pigtailing for certain fixtures just like the US. You just use Wagos or terminal strips instead of wirenuts.

It's very uncommon in residential over here, left up to "site practice" in most places.

Fun Fact 2 - one reason we don't use Wagos/terminal strips here is because of the bypass current requirements I mentioned. Wire nut means rated conductor to rated conductor contact. Some of that is down to 120V vs. your 240V.

[Anonymous No.1859844]

>>1859431
This poster... imagine sitting around your mom's basement all day and coming up with that.... as the question you asked...

[Anonymous No.1859852]

>>1859827
It's 228 not 240...and the biggest difference isn't voltage it's frequency. You would know that if you had the least bit of education on the subject.

[Anonymous No.1859858]

who's the biggest faggot on /diy/?
for me, it's the dumb frogposter