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What were foundations made of before concrete? I want to get away from modernity.
Also how to make something like pic related code compliant?

>> No.1845957

>>1845956
Stamped mud or nothing at all

>> No.1845965

>>1845956
>What were foundations made of before concrete?
Stone

>I want to get away from modernity
I mean. Concrete is pretty old technology. Maybe just consider doing the foundation of your house properly.

>Also how to make something like pic related code compliant?
Build it in an area not subject to zoning/inspection.

>> No.1845977

>>1845956
Brick

>> No.1846002
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>>1845956
>I want to get away from modernity.

Then go to South America and ask some uncontacted savages, instead of phoneposting on a Burundian harpsichord-stringing forum.

>> No.1846006

>>1846002
You get shot fulla arrows doing that shit anon

>> No.1846025

>>1845956
Stone, brick or wood (oak, chestnut or similiar, either charred or soaked in tar). Usually pillar- or strip-type foundations.
>Also how to make something like pic related code compliant?
By first realizing that you're a retard who doesn't understand that this is an international board.

In germany (where I am), for example, it would be code compliant as long as you either do not live in it permanently or have access to potable water (either grid or a tested well), heating (a wood stove would be enough) and sewage (either grid or a tested septic system). And perhaps use windows with double- or triple layered glass, if you happen to be in an area requiring a higher level of insulation.

As you're most likely american (because face it, who else would expect this mongolia-based hieroglyph appreciation board to be restricted to hisown country) I can't help you unless you post your local requirements.

>> No.1846028

>>1846025
Hans I was in your neck of the woods in the 80s plastering , great money then for bong builders , Guess your Turkroaches do all building work now

>> No.1846055

>>1846028
Turkish guest workers in Germany were a thing since the 50s.

>> No.1846060

>>1846028
Its cheap workers in general, from all over europe.

>> No.1846088

>>1845956
>Build it in an area not subject to zoning/inspection.
That would likely get through code for much of the US, things get simpler once you get away from the metros and even simpler when you get away from people.

>>1846025
>who else would expect this mongolia-based hieroglyph appreciation board to be restricted to hisown country)
Almost every OP assumes that regardless of country.

>> No.1847802

>>1845956
enormous stone blocks that defy explanation

>> No.1847822

>>1845956

Here is a good primer on what's involved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjp2qyJ4kAo

>> No.1847876

>>1846025
>who else would expect this mongolia-based hieroglyph appreciation board to be restricted to hisown country
Gee, I wonder why someone would assume he's talking to Americans on a US-based image board which was started by an American where everyone speaks English. Better just not discuss anything US-related to avoid offending the foreigners.

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>>1847876
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NO COUNTRY FOR TOLD MEN

DUMB FUCKING KRAUT

>> No.1848017

>>1845965
Yeah, concrete was invented by the Ancient Romans. Really isn't modern tech.

>> No.1848147
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Stone

>> No.1848158

>>1845956
At first, longhouses for example, nothing at all. They just rammed beams into the dirt so they had to replace them after a few years.
After that it was horizontal logs which was considerably better.
Then the first stone foundations became a thing.

>> No.1848160

>>1845956
The old part of my house's foundation is a 6 foot pile of field stone loosely held in place with mortar. Some of it has been shored up with a bit of concrete, but not all of it. I remember as a kid a rock falling down while we were playing with the train set (I bought my house from my BFF's parents).

>> No.1848162

>>1848017
Opus caementicium is chemically different from Portland cement and 40 times more durable.

>> No.1848434

>>1848147
In what part of Africa is this mud dwelling located?

>> No.1848439

>>1848162
then why is Roman concrete no longer used?

>> No.1848442

>>1848439
Because the exact recipe was lost during the dark ages.

>> No.1848446

>>1845956
lol even the romans build with concrete, whats your problem?

>> No.1848452

>>1845956
In my region they build strip foundation out of granite.

>> No.1848482

>>1848442
Vitruvius, writing around 25 BC in his Ten Books on Architecture, distinguished types of aggregate appropriate for the preparation of lime mortars. For structural mortars, he recommended pozzolana (pulvis puteolanus in Latin), the volcanic sand from the beds of Pozzuoli, which are brownish-yellow-gray in color in that area around Naples, and reddish-brown near Rome. Vitruvius specifies a ratio of 1 part lime to 3 parts pozzolana for cement used in buildings and a 1:2 ratio of lime to pozzolana for underwater work, essentially the same ratio mixed today for concrete used in marine locations.

>> No.1848486

>>1848439
it's made from ingredients specific to Roman volcanoes.

>> No.1848519

>>1845956
Probably compliant in Hawaii. Or anywhere codes are really loose/nonexistent.
Foundations:
Mud, fired clay (bricks, make your own for that old world feel), stones, large tree stumps, sand, cement isn't new as others mentioned, but it does look modern, wood, dirt.

>> No.1848564

>>1845956
My old place was built in the 1860s and had a stacked slate basement. It was very drafty and during downpours water would fountain through the big gaps. Good times.

>> No.1848572

>>1848442
>Because the exact recipe was lost during the dark ages.
It was recently reconstructed from original sources but theye're still figuring out some of the details.
https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/15190/The-Secret-Ingredient-in-Ancient-Roman-Concrete-is-Seawater.aspx#:~:text=Portland%20Cement,%22aggregate%22%20in%20the%20concrete.

>> No.1848585

>>1848434
>Africa
>needle tree
>tiles

>> No.1848588

>>1847802
the explanation is that when you only have iron age quarrying tools, large blocks consume less skilled manpower than small blocks. draft animals can pull a rope but can't swing a hammer.

>> No.1848589

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlVENzhq_Xw&list=PL4e4wpjna1vxWSCj8rNp-c3dDzoHLTItx

rocks in dirt

>> No.1848959
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>>1848434
A great deal of historical buildings in Europe are made with stone, wood and lots of mud

>> No.1849170

>>1848959
clay is not mud

>> No.1849177

>>1849170
yes it is. europeans lived in mud huts, no need to be ashamed of it

>> No.1849188

>>1849177
In fact, in many places we see wood buildings as kind of shabby and dangerous, being the proper good building materials brick and stone. The typical unifamiliar american house seem like a fire trap to me

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1849209

>>1845956
Air was a popular choice.
Water rots wood so it was a wise decision to keep it off the ground.

>> No.1849357

>>1849170
That's literally mud in that building, it's called wattle and daub

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>>1848959
would the wall break if you ran and slammed your body against it

>> No.1850263

>>1850233
More likely your body would break

>> No.1850278

>>1850263
i dont know that building looks like a hunky pile of shit

>> No.1850281

>>1850263
if you run at american walls you leave a full body imprint. if you live in a mobile home you might end up in the other room or outside depending on the wall.

>> No.1850282

>>1850278
It's been that for a very long time tho

>> No.1850283
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1850283

This is how building used to be made here

>> No.1850287
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1850287

This is my house, it's made of mud bricks with a stone foundation, it was made around 1930 and it used to be a bakery first

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1850289

There are also buildings completely made of stone which is amazing

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>> No.1850300

>>1850282
i imagine these shithole buildings have kino indoor aesthetics so im not talking shit.

>> No.1850313

>>1845956

Hi OP. As far as scholars can tell, the most common materials were poo and dog sick. Trust me, my dad works at Medieval Times.