Harbor Freight Jack Stands Killing People

[Anonymous No.1826076]

>"just buy harbor freight stuff" they said
>"its all the same shit" they said

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/05/20/harbor-freight-jack-stands-recall-2020/5227291002/

[Anonymous No.1826082]

>>1826076
Oof just saw the chainsaw is recalled too, thanks for posting m8

[Anonymous No.1826083]

>>1826082
Never mind that chainsaw was back in 2018.

[Anonymous No.1826085]

haha harbor freight more like horrible fright

[Anonymous No.1826094]

>>1826076
>can't even buy something so simple as a jack stand at harbor freight.

[Anonymous No.1826129]

Chineseium, what did you expect?

also, who buys such small jackstands? all of the ones I have are 10+ tons

[Anonymous No.1826157]

>>1826129
2 ton in my car boot

[Anonymous No.1826167]

>>1826076
how do you fuck this up? you'd think it would take one engineer to figure out the necessary design for any range of shit chink materials and processes and then you'd just stick to that. it's not like the mechanics are that complicated.

[Anonymous No.1826168]

Harbor freight is for throwaway, cheap shit that you might need for one or two projects. If you buy anything that you're trusting your life with you're out of your mind

[Anonymous No.1826198]

It's kind of funny that these got recalled because when I went there last month to pick up a polishing pad the guy next to me in the checkout line was buying some of these (I guess for someone else) and he told me that I should use cinder blocks instead of jackstands and I just laughed but he insisted that he was serious. I guess he's the one laughing at me now.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1826201]

>>1826129
The 6-tons are pretty big. But this is also why I use the double locking guys whenever I’m actually getting under the car.

>>1826076
So it’s the newer red 3-ton stands only? I guess they shaved another 3¢ off with the new one and it was too far.

[Anonymous No.1826205]

>>1826201
I have 3 and 6 ton Torin Big Red jackstands that are chinese and look identical to these, ive had them a long time. I wonder if you are right, its just a new cost cutting thing that caused this. I always push and shake my car hard to make sure the stands arent going to move before I get under it.

Ive had a scissor jack fold up on me and dump my car onto the ground, so im sensitive to it.
I had no jackstands, and no real jack. I jacked it up, I pulled the tire. I stood up and looked in the engine bay. As I leaned on it I felt it move slightly and bam, car as on the ground.

[Anonymous No.1826207]

>>1826198
Yes. I used to give my dad shit about forcing me to use concrete blocks+stand when working on my ranger until one day I used a stand to hold the front end of a walk behind mower up. Was gonna change the blades out, I tilted it up and put the front end on the stand which immediately buckled as described in OP's pic. Thank god it buckled there without my arms under there wrestling the blade out, would have crushed me. It was a decent(but fairly old) stand too. It must be an issue with all of them which is why they make these >>1826201.

[Anonymous No.1826282]

>>1826129
Exactly. This shouldn't surprise anyone.

>>1826167
>Chinese tools
>engineer
Good one bro. Maybe they could get the same engineer who designed their new navy ship that caught fire?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/04/11/brand-new-chinese-aircraft-carrier-catches-fire/#70321e587f4d

>>1826168
Exactly. If you use trust this cheap shit not to drop a car on you then you're a retard.

>>1826207
My old man taught me the same thing. Jack or jack stands PLUS backup cinder blocks. Once everything was up and blocked he'd shake it a few times just to be sure before we got under it. One time he did that, the jack stand slipped and shot out from under it, and the car sat there on the cinder blocks. I'd never get under a car like that without backup.

[Anonymous No.1826285]

[Anonymous No.1826314]

I trust this with my life every time I change my oil. I have absolutely zero doubts this will save me if the jack fails. Thank you harbor freight

[Anonymous No.1826323]

>>1826076
>not using the good ol block of woods or logs
>buying chinesium mumbo jumbo instead
you deserved it

[Anonymous No.1826433]

>production dates go back to 2013
>7 years later recall
Sounds more like they are doing it to move inventory.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1826441]

>>1826205
The different model numbers on all the HF shit, from what I have seen that’s when they’re switching suppliers or tweaking the design a little bit to get it cheaper. You can see it if you look closely at the stuff over time. The free multimeters, a couple years ago the board was actually secured to the case with a couple screws, on the newer ones they got rid of those 1/2¢ worth of screws and sandwiched the board in the case.

The free blue LED lights are the same, every 6 months there is a new number and you open them up and see one less screw or component.

If the issue is on the newer jacks, I’m sure it’s because they tried to cut one little process from somewhere that made them unsafe.

[Anonymous No.1826543]

>>1826076
Have the stands in question. Looks like the pin they used on the locking paw isnt a solid pin. It could easily sheer off and kill a man. I just used mine the other day to support a van while I was dropping the gas tank.

[Anonymous No.1826614]

>>1826076
Ive been called a faggot on /o/ numerous times for telling them it was dangerously retarded trusting jack stands from Harbor Freight

[Anonymous No.1826726]

Can I use a big thick heavy piece of square steel tubing of the appropriate height as a jack stand, after welding some curved shit on top so it sits on the jack points properly? Less shit to go wrong.

[Anonymous No.1826728]

>>1826726
Or just use cinder blocks.

[Anonymous No.1826732]

>>1826728
Cinder blocks are brittle and are heavier and larger than steel for the same strength.

[Anonymous No.1826770]

>>1826728
I grew up and still currently live on the family farm. I have broken so many fucking cinderblocks putting weight from implements down on them I don't know how anyone trusts them. I sure don't. we use the flatter pieces of cinderblocks we've broken as dunnage to lower the jackstand of implements on now so they don't sink so far into the ground. even the flat pieces will crack and split apart from heavier implements.

[Anonymous No.1826773]

>>1826314

[Anonymous No.1826778]

>>1826314
I drive a camry and don't need to jack up the car at all to change the oil. What kind of cuckbox are you driving that changing the oil requires jacking the car up? lmao

[Anonymous No.1826808]

>>1826076
I use these jack stands a great grand uncle or something made from scrap steel probably 80 years ago. I should probably stop huh... They feel stiff and safe under load but otherwise they're very flimsy.

[Anonymous No.1826811]

>Ratcheting jack stands
this shit is made by and for lazy retards who couldn't be bothered to do simple things like using a pin type stand.
a pin type stand is a design so simple and solid that even chinesium crap would be bulletproof, and yet people choose the one with a ratcheting mechanism. smdhfam

[Anonymous No.1826815]

>>1826282
No effin way a cinderblock withstood a car slamming down on it.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1826850]

>>1826614
The pics they always post on /o/ are obvious misuse and maybe one example of chinesium steel. It doesn’t take much to recall something like jack stands, and even then it was only one run of 3-ton stands. Plus it likely takes quite a bit of shaking to unlock them. I wouldn’t hesitate to tell somebody to grab the $18 pair for brake jobs, but I still shill the 6-ton with the pin when going under the car.

[Anonymous No.1827360]

So the most important question is still missing from this thread: Does anyone know a decent jack and/or jackstand that's made in the USA?

[Anonymous No.1827374]

>>1826076
Fecking pussies the stand will save you

[Anonymous No.1827375]

>>1826728
>>1826732
Or use bricks same thing

[Anonymous No.1827391]

>>1827360
I like Sumner jack stands, but they're more for fabrication than automotive use. They're plenty strong enough to hold a car, but their lowest height is typically around a couple feet off the floor.

[Anonymous No.1827398]

>>1827391
Cinder blocks are as good

[Anonymous No.1827429]

>>1827360
Buy used. I've got an old Blackhawk similar to this one. USA made and was quite cheap. IIRC I got it for $85 or thereabouts.

[Anonymous No.1827431]

>>1827429
Love how they all say its USA made when infact all parts are made in China then put together in Milwaukee lol

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1827436]

>>1827360
Hein Werner is one of the premium US jack companies. It’s only $50 more for a pair of good US stands over unknown Chinesium, so I guess that’s worth the price of admission.

“Assembled in USA”

[Anonymous No.1827442]

>>1827436
With all due Respect I wouldnt trust those at all , They scream at being for the DIY brigade , so for that reason I wont be investing !

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1827444]

>>1827442
Try these. 1” of Chinese steel must be just as good as 1/3” of Chinese steel that is “Assembled in USA”

[Anonymous No.1827449]

>>1827444
Trips there is the added Bonus there , but my gut tells me , Now would you put your fav son under that motor its a big no no , other one wifes son ok, But again thats just me anon

[Anonymous No.1827456]

>>1827442
I have no idea what this means, but that's okay because I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter.

[Mrcrummy No.1827457]

I've been using the hf jack stands for years and I will continue to use them and I dont give a fuck about a recall, they're fine.

[Anonymous No.1827461]

>>1827456
that was almost funny , esl spic

[Anonymous No.1827465]

>>1826076
>Buy Harbor Freight
>Die

[Anonymous No.1827478]

>>1827461
>esl
>defending his own stroked out post

[Anonymous No.1827479]

>>1827478
what a complete sad loser , stop raging an add to the thread ok , Retard , or leave Loser ! Last warning ok !

[Anonymous No.1827480]

>>1827465
This Right , Cheap chinese imports an we still let US companies say its all US Cert/ to Code , lots of steel firms lost cos chinks can do it it with inferior *steal* an paid a bowl rice a day , sleeps at bench . <thats nots racism .. that W.H.O. said that .

[Anonymous No.1827974]

>>1826778
>drives a camry
>accuses someone else of driving a cuckbox
Those who live in glass cucksheds ought not to throw stones, Anon.

[Anonymous No.1828427]

Doesn't look like mine are in the recall. I've had the weight of a car on them dozens of times. What is the defect on the ones being recalled?

[Anonymous No.1828431]

>>1828427
some yt asshole says the dies were worn out and that a wiggle with a shift in weight might cause the latch to slip

[Anonymous No.1828479]

>>1826167
According to AvE factory just continued used old casting molds for the thread inserts way past when they should have been thrown out and as a result all out of spec. Seems a bit too long an explanation to not be legit. Also more dangerous - affect 100% new manufacture.

[Anonymous No.1828560]

>>1826076
>Buy cheap shit
>Shit is cheap

[Anonymous No.1828639]

>>1828479
Sounds like a bunch of conjecture from a faggot who is the king of Dunning-Kruger

[Anonymous No.1828641]

>>1826076
>harbor freight
Based
>harbor freight jack stand
Oh no. nonono
Thing with HF is they're great for those tools you need but don't need often and aren't mission critical. Save a few thousand pennies on a bingobango wrench. Don't skimp on the only thing keeping you from becoming a pancake though.

[Anonymous No.1828799]

>>1828479
>>1828639
Does this board hate him? His voice is almost perfect but he stumbles on words too much.

[Anonymous No.1828800]

>>1828431
>>1828479
>>1828639
>>1828799
Vijayo

[THe_KvD !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1828811]

>>1828799
He gets old real real quick and he talks out his ass a lot, pretty much this >>1828639

I still like the teardown videos to see what they’re actually putting in these items, but then he starts rambling about how one thing is definitely going to fail in the Hercules tool but when they do it the same way in the Hilti, it will probably hold up for decades.

[Anonymous No.1828819]

>>1826076
>Hazard Fraught "tools"

Is anyone surprised?

It is a bitch though that's it's near impossible to find stands that AREN'T made in some third-world corrupt cesspit.

my last jackstands got stolen and I'm using some AC Delco Taiwanese shits I got from OReilly's.

[Anonymous No.1828895]

>>1826076
These were failing in New Zealand too.
Different branding, but looks like same Chinese shit.

[Anonymous No.1828965]

>>1826314
I had to go check, mine are these as well. Bought them three maybe four years ago.
>If the jack fails
I was taught to let the car rest on the jack stands, give it a good push from three or four directions, then shove the spare tire under. I also tend to leave the jack extended but barely touching the jack point.
The reason for leaving it resting on the stands rather than the jacks, is that way you make sure the stands are properly positioned, rather than risk them shifting as the failing jack drops the car onto them.

[Anonymous No.1828975]

>>1828799
Yes and no. Some folks like him for his humor. Others hate him for a variety of reasons, some even without. Could be the mans popularity, could be that he does tend to talk out of his ass a lot, could be that he lets not-tradies into muh secrut club, or simply that he sometimes criticizes a sacred cow, validly or not.
I could take it or leave it, I often find myself muting him whenever he goes on an unrelated rant, but he does take apart interesting things and introduces concepts and ideas that I wouldn't have come across, but it's still not a bad idea to verify from a different source.
Regardless, I am kind of jealous that he has both the capacity and time to just fuck around with things he likes. I also like how he has apparently no fear to just jump right into something and start messing around, even if he knows next to nothing about what he's doing. Meanwhile, my brother in law can't even change a tire and is too afraid of a wrench.

[Anonymous No.1829000]

>>1828427
>>1828965

38846

>same model number
>completely different design

[Anonymous No.1829128]

>>1828975
>I also like how he has apparently no fear to just jump right into something and start messing around,

Why would he? What repercussions are there?
His retard fanbase just accepts that he doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about, so he can bullshit about anything.
His patreon videos and sponsors give him tools/pay for the things he messes with. A $250 tool breakdown costs a mere fraction of what that single video will make in revenue.

So, nobody cares he doesnt know what he is doing. He isnt actually paying money for the tools. And he doesnt give a shit about breaking or properly putting anything back together, or running anything correctly because he can just throw it away and it cost him nothing.

Thats not a great skill, thats not him having balls, its him making a dollar. Its akin to tech youtubers "torture testing" $1000 smart phones by dropping them off a roof.

>>1828799
>Does this board hate him?
He used to be liked when he was early in his youtube career.
Once the money started coming in, once Patreon happened he completely changed as a youtuber.
He right now has 12600 patreon subscribers at $5 a month. This does not include his revenue money from each and every video he makes

His early videos were him being a canadian saying canadian phrases and every once in a while making a video he was knowledgeable about.
He ran out of material, turned himself into a caricature with a made up shop language (stolen Red Green shtick btw) , started pumping out filler and quota videos on things he knows nothing about to keep his cash rolling in.
But since he created shop memes (haha safety squints) people suck his dick like its a good channel.
He just throws out half assed videos, letting youtube comments correct him and teach him how to do shit he has no clue about.

Literally no other youtuber would get away with it. When you boil it down, no other youtuber gets paid copious amounts of money to crash course learn shit.
But cunt hairs my nigga!

[Anonymous No.1829133]

>>1829000
Every company does this.
"Revision" is code word for "cheaped out on"
Like how rev 1 and 2 dewalt DW715 miter saws were Mexican made and had provisions for laser modules, then Rev 3 came out and the laser option was gone and it was made in china.
Or how a company like Craftsman or Crescent sells the same exact pattern of tool, was USA and then became chinese overnight.

Harbor freight does it very often though.
They will cheap out constantly so the older stuff on the shelf is usually better. They also literally use different suppliers for the same exact tools.
Look at their 20 ton presses.
They have the same part number, but one manufacturer welds the frame together. The other makes you bolt it together. The bolt together one actually has a bigger capacity.

[Anonymous No.1829152]

>>1827442
Based schizo-boomer poster

[Anonymous No.1829153]

>>1827457
This is literally natural selection removing you from the gene pool

[Anonymous No.1829160]

>>1828799
I don't necessarily hate the guy, but his retard speak gets obnoxious on his newer videos. I hate how in some of his older videos he'd talk down on people correcting him in the comments. As a machinist I can tell in some of his older stuff he has no real idea of what he's doing, not so much now but i don't really watch him that much. He's also got flak for purging a lot of his older content.

[Anonymous No.1829168]

>>1829160
>He's also got flak for purging a lot of his older content.
Since I refuse to watch him, I didnt hear that. What a faggot

[Anonymous No.1829173]

>>1828799
I used to like him somewhat years ago, but he went from being somewhat annoying to full red green barely speaking english while also stop doing anything interesting like the tear downs.
The one that really sent me over the edge (though I unsubscribed much earlier) was the harbor freight drill master drill and light video where he's
> hahawacky I smashed it with a hammer and cut it will a milling machine xDDD
I legitimately enjoy seeing how people cut costs to meet ridiculously low prices, so seeing what sort of methods they used to achieve that end would've been interesting. Instead he made a shitty 10 minute gag about it.

[Anonymous No.1829178]

>>1827436
>“Assembled in USA”
aka we had the chinks leave the roll pins out so we can have an illegal in eagle pass tejas hammer them in and slap a PROUDLY made with global materials and *assembled* IN DA OOOSSSA sticker on it

[Anonymous No.1829251]

bought a pair of these http://usjack-com.3dcartstores.com/6-Ton-Garage-Jack-Stand_p_41.html , 100% made in USA. Company that makes it has military contracts and works with a lot of big name companies(Lockheed,boeing,etc). Its more expensive than most jack stands , but trying to save money on something that youre trusting your life over is pretty stooped desu.

[Anonymous No.1829254]

>>1826076
buying anything harbor freight

[Anonymous No.1829272]

>>1826441
>The free blue LED lights are the same, every 6 months there is a new number and you open them up and see one less screw or component.

they did upgrade from a grid of dim ass LED's to a modern yellow square super wide LED

[Anonymous No.1829279]

>>1829272
You know that it wasnt an upgrade for the sake of upgrade.
The older boards probably cost more as the newer boards got cheaper.

[Anonymous No.1830120]

>>1826076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqvEA74-Edw

lol

[Anonymous No.1830149]

>>1828479
>According to AvE factory just continued used old casting molds for the thread inserts way past when they should have been thrown out and as a result all out of spec.

Ah of course.
AVE would know, the man is an expert. The video here confirms it >>1830120

>video from August 29, 2016

OH NO NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.1830174]

>>1826076
Isn't that a known flaw for all post jackstands like those?
When I was in highschool our teacher would rant about how awful normal jackstands are and had a couple fucked ones in the class for show.

He always insisted on double locking stands, having blocks put under the car before anyone does any work, and keeping the jack partially lifted on one side of the car in case the stands do fuck up.

[Anonymous No.1830177]

Is there a safe way to straighten a slightly bent threaded rod?

I’ve bent the threaded rod that locks the table on my drop saw

[Anonymous No.1830179]

>>1830174
Its a weak point in the design yes, but if that stand is in good shape and it was made correctly itll be fine.
What we are seeing is manufacturing defects actually allowing the weak point to fail out of the box.

With that said, I have this type of jack stand and I dont feel unsafe with them.

[Anonymous No.1830181]

>>1830177
Weird thread to ask this in.
But ive straightened threaded rod, a quick and easy way to do it is 2 v blocks in your hydraulic press.

[Anonymous No.1830269]

>>1826076
Was literally about to go to Harbor Freight today and buy some jack stands. Thanks OP, you're not a faggot and possibly saved my life.

[Anonymous No.1830273]

>>1828560
BUT THEY PROMISED ME QUALITY TOOLS! ITS RIGHT IN THEIR SLOGAN!

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1830328]

>>1830269
Find a Northern Tool nearby if you can with the double locking stands, they’re only a couple bucks more than the HF stands and won’t disengage on you.

[Anonymous No.1830602]

>>1829178
>https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/05/20/harbor-freight-jack-stands-recall-2020/5227291002/
true and
hahaha that fuckin pic

[Anonymous No.1830603]

Literally just bought these. 56372. The serial numbers are so close and they look similar. Are they the same? Did harbor freight fix the issue and start selling these this quickly after the recall?

[Anonymous No.1830613]

>>1830149
There is no fucking way that dies in a machine were used for 4 years after they were out of spec.

[Anonymous No.1830643]

>>1830613
Not only that, if you look at the differences between the good and bad stands, it's clearly a design flaw, not a worn die, no way, no how.

AvE just likes to talk out of his ass, and has no clue what forging die wear looks like or how it fails.

TL;DR AvE, as usual, saw something happened, and made an assumption rather than doing research.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1830666]

>>1830643
Hey bro but he knows how the bridges fall and where that Malaysian 777 went! It was because they didn’t put enough fiberglass in their plastic!

[Anonymous No.1830718]

>>1830666
lol

The funny thing about the bridge and plane were that those weren't even his conclusions.

He was just spouting off what others had speculated at the time, you could tell by the way he stumbled through the explanation of "his thoughts" on the matter like he had no clue what he was on about.

[Anonymous No.1830724]

>>1830643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwcWdKwPvhI

>vid related

[Anonymous No.1830728]

>>1830724
Thats pretty fucking egregious.
Like holy shit those are bad.

I have ratcheting, non-HF branded ones and they look nothing like that. So that makes me feel a lot better.

[Anonymous No.1830730]

>>1830724
>no cap
>less machining on the ridges
Each model number is that shady company trying to save half a cent. I hope they fucking eat it on those stands.

[Anonymous No.1830744]

>>1826076
I had a pair of the affected part#
Returned for a full refund.
Yet none of my jack stands showed any signs of wear
Wheel Crib master life.

[Anonymous No.1830754]

>>1826433
Are you being serious?

[Anonymous No.1830756]

>>1826815
Depends on where it hit the cinderblock and what type of car it was.

[Anonymous No.1830763]

>>1830754
>According to a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration safety recall report, the stands were produced between June 2013 and November 2019.

Literally in OPs link.

[Anonymous No.1830770]

>>1830763
You know, HF is giving out full refunds right?
You can't make money that way.

[Anonymous No.1831165]

>>1826614
You ARE a faggot... but so is /o/, they dont wrench on the cars daddy bought them.

HF has sourced millions of jack stands, and those jack stands have helped make millions of automotive repairs at the hands of millions of people. A relatively small portion are junk, and those should get taken care of.

But in general, people should use caution when working under multi thousand pound death traps supported temporarily.

No need to be a reactionary safety susan faggot though.

[Anonymous No.1831167]

>>1827442
Oblivious zoomer is oblivious.

Hein Werner is an old school company. If you see random 60 year old jacks still in use in 2020, theyre probably hein werners.

the only "diy brigade" faggots i see is you.

[Anonymous No.1831241]

>>1830603
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.1831256]

https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/harbor-freight-recall-jackstands-collapse-safety/
>According to Harbor Freight's NHTSA filing, the problem with these jack stands is that due to worn tooling at the factory, the pawl that engages with the toothed height-adjustable part of the stand doesn't do so sufficiently to reliably lock it in place. A bump or a knock could cause the pawl to disengage, dropping the vehicle suddenly.

[Anonymous No.1831329]

>>1831256
>used worn tooling from 2013-2019 and it didnt get caught in quality control when they sold other models alongside them that didnt have this problem

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1831400]

>>1831241
Look at this video >>1830724

If anthing, shake them a little with your hand pushing diwn and see if it disengages.

[Anonymous No.1831435]

>>1831241
here's the difference in tooling, the shit stands have locking pawls that are not square so half the pawl barely grabs what's left of the tooth

it's pretty fucking clear they were pouring that shitty chinesium into the same molds for a fucking decade while they slowly eroded away
just go back to HF and they will swap them with a new version on the spot

[Anonymous No.1831619]

>>1828479
>>1830149
>>1830613
>>1830643

[Anonymous No.1831704]

>>1830328
>Literally none in Pennsylvania
Why does this state even exist?

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1831716]

>>1831704
I think that company is from the Midwest, somehow there’s 3 of them in this whole half of Florida and one right by my work. It’s a nice place to go when Home Depot doesn’t carry the shit and you don’t want to deal with Harbor Freight.

You could order online too, the 3-ton, basically like the Pitt stands with an extra pin wnd no recall, are on sale online for $19 a pair and the 6-ton pairs are $44.

[Anonymous No.1832105]

>>1828799
I envy him his wife.

He does say stupid shit that makes one want to punch him sometimes, like that one time he uploaded a drunken rant against men that where abused by their parents as children.

And more recently making light of Covid19.

[Anonymous No.1832107]

>>1830770
What is inflation.
What is interest-free loan.
What is not 100% of buyers will ask for a refund.

[Anonymous No.1832169]

>>1831435
>it's pretty fucking clear they were pouring that shitty chinesium into the same molds for a fucking decade while they slowly eroded away

Not really, the overall finish is poor but its still square in the weight optimizations in the mold. If the wear would have happened slowly over time to fundamentally change the original shape, the actual shaft wouldnt be closer to square either.

[Anonymous No.1832615]

>>1832169
They might have "repaired" the molds, but without addresing the actual problem areas properly.

[Anonymous No.1832638]

>>1832105
>And more recently making light of Covid19
>not making light of a typical flu
?

[Anonymous No.1832644]

>>1832638
Fuck you, my uncle died.

[Anonymous No.1832645]

>>1832644
That's unfortunate, did he have any preexisting conditions? Also someone's uncle dies from the normal flu every year. Did you also rush out and stockpile toilet paper?

[Anonymous No.1832661]

>>1830613
If only you knew how bad things really are
when you make 1 cent profit on part those dies are not worth fixing ever
probably they were hand me downs from OG manufacturer in US and abused for many years by unskilled workforce
I saw that happen with my own eyes, factory moved from 1st to 2nd world country because cheap
some tools were too beat up to be used but they were anyway
machines were in appalling condition too, would be scrapped in any western country
but company was competing with chinese cheap crap so there you go
you can have cheap or good quality, never both