What's your biggest pet peeve for home design? I don't mean in terms of shoddy work, but deliberate choices, no matter how well or poorly executed. For me: >Tile floors in bedrooms/living room These should be carpet or wood. Nothing else.

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Anonymous Sun Apr 5 19:33:24 2020 No.1793198 [Reply] [Original]

What's your biggest pet peeve for home design? I don't mean in terms of shoddy work, but deliberate choices, no matter how well or poorly executed.

For me:
>Tile floors in bedrooms/living room

These should be carpet or wood. Nothing else.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 19:59:53 2020 No.1793216

>>1793198
>These should be carpet or wood. Nothing else.
Not when its a rental.

That said, yeah, I feel you. I hate the McMasions "style". Where they just mix a bunch of other styles together and hope for the best. Hell, the whole idea of a suburban "house" that is plopped on a tiny lot is just stupid to me. Either save up and get a place with a yard or get a townhouse. Having 4 feet on all sides, even the back, isn't doing you any favors.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ugliest-mcmansions-in-america-2017-6

I also hate it when they design systems that just don't work. Like covering a roof with dormers that channel all the rain down only one or two drainpipes. One good rain and the system fails.

Wasted spaces are also a bad idea. I can't tell you the number of houses I've walked into with these huge foyers that are just awkward and empty. What do you use it for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:06:17 2020 No.1793350 >>1793198 I want a house like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:50:17 2020 No.1793360 >>1793198 J showers. Feels like a fucking college dorm.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 15:52:30 2020 No.1793661

>>1793198
>shower in bath
>fake wood
>deliberately visible seams between drywall plates (this is sometimes done on ceilings)
>cover doors (especially those with cardboard centers)
>pvc or laminate floor (see: fake wood)
>obvious scams like kitchens where everything is plastic veneer but you know top dollar was paid for it
>in-stove range 'hood'

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 16:22:59 2020 No.1793678 >>1793198 >Interior casing for a window done picture-frame style instead of having a proper stool and apron REEEEEE

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 16:27:37 2020 No.1793681

>>1793198
The biggest problem I have with modern home design is that the architects try so hard that they end up making a caricature of a house.

Also,
>open floor plan with different floors "separating" the "rooms"
>bedrooms with 1 window shoved all the way to the side of the room
>bedrooms with 2 windows all the way in one corner
>bathrooms that require you to cross an opening to the living room to get to
>bedrooms that are next to/open up into the foyer
>jack and jill bathrooms that are a single room
>flush mount globe fixtures
>exact same shade of paint on the ceilings and walls
>fake closed shutters instead of a window
>when the main focal point of the house is the 2 car garage
>J-swing houses
>4000sf house on 6000sf lot
>A/C unit right next to a bedroom window
>microwave over range with """"hood"""" that just recycles the air
>breakfast area AND a dining room
>tiny back porch that cannot fit a table and chairs
>every single tree clearcut, no shade
>sod from other side of the country (turns brown in winter while my yard stays green, boomers be seething)
>roof pitch so high you can fit a second floor but it's all attic, not even framed to add a second floor

I could go on, I look at house plans all day for my job.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 17:17:05 2020 No.1793718

Not design, but I would just like to say.
FUCK GLASS DOOR KNOBS.
They are always such shit, after 50 years the pot metal is all wallowed out, or somehow the steel threaded rod is stripped, or the brass set screw is destroyed. So they wobble or fall off, and don't actually fucking function as usable door knob. Try to tighten, it cracks the pot metal or strips the head.
shit is garbage

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 17:21:44 2020 No.1793723 >Three-season porch >Homeowners association >Sub development

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 18:03:59 2020 No.1793745 File: 349 KB, 924x888, 20200406_180020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is my kitchen, can you tell me WTF they were thinking? The blue square is plumbing and red square is the chimney

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 18:58:29 2020 No.1793775 Not thinking about sunlight when designing a garden

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 19:07:05 2020 No.1793777

>>1793198
>These should be carpet or wood. Nothing else.
Carpet shouldn't be used anywhere, except walls.
Floor must be reliable ceramic or porcelain tiles or laminate floor. Hardwood meme and vinyl memes are not allowed.

For me, it is plumbing inside walls. Whoever came with idea to hide pipes is retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 21:13:58 2020 No.1793826 >>1793198 The stuff that makes me sick all the time especially when the wind is blowing

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 04:14:38 2020 No.1793945 >>1793661 All of these Plus carpet Carpet are so scummy, just get a rug if youre that needy Dust be gone

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 07:10:49 2020 No.1793996 >>1793198 >pic Holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:49:42 2020 No.1794019 >>1793777 >plumbing not inside walls Wtf, do you want your house to look like some kind of '60s Soviet apartment

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:51:52 2020 No.1794020 >>1794019 Well apparently he doesn't want to have to redo his wall carpeting after he messes with the pipes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:56:23 2020 No.1794022 Houses that don't have the option for either gas OR electric appliances.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:59:16 2020 No.1794023

>>1794020
He could just get hanging wall carpets and do the plumbing inside the walls but don't fill the slits back in and cover it with more carpet. That way if something's wrong he could easily access it by flipping up the carpet but the carpet would be nice and flush with the wall in its normal position

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 10:08:11 2020 No.1794041

>>1793198
My grandparents old house had this exact setup, it was an attic they stored stuff in.

It was a 5 bedroom 2500sq ft monster, huge dining room, an awesome den, a 3 season room, huge basement, detached 2 stall garage, built in like 1900.
Turned into a gang ridden black neighborhood so my grandparents moved out back in 2001. I remember pulling stuff out of storage in that attic from when my mom lived there in the 70s. Def leopard records and a Mork and Mindy boardgame are the two that stand out in my mind for some reason.

It was actually a really cool house, It sucks those old neighborhoods are getting so bad you cant safely live in them. Id love to own something like it.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 11:48:55 2020 No.1794084

>>1794019
Yep, this is good design. You see all leaks, pipe runs are shorter, etc.
Access panel of sort (or some easy-to-remove shroud) is acceptable... But american plumbing inside drywall is just a fucking disaster waiting to happen. I know people who had installed shower instead of LCD TV, just because there was pipe going through the stud.
>>1794020
Kek
>>1794023
2 cups of vodka to this gopnik, he knows a thing or two about real luxury.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 12:17:25 2020 No.1794102

All brick houses. Almost every single house here is bare, economical red bricks. Is it too much to ask to put some sort of facade on half of the building at the very least? Like a half wood, half brick appearance. It would probably only had hundreds to the total price of the house only

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 12:45:51 2020 No.1794111 >looking at apartments and their floor plans (inb4 don’t rent, I know) >so many apartments with bathrooms that have one door going to the bedroom and one door facing out towards a common hallway/entryway WHY WHO THOUGHT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 12:46:18 2020 No.1794112 >looking at apartments and their floor plans (inb4 don’t rent, I know) >so many apartments with bathrooms that have one door going to the bedroom and one door facing out towards a common hallway/entryway WHY WHO THOUGHT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:03:06 2020 No.1794121

>>1794084
you know there's such a thing as a nail guard right?

>>1793198
Basically everything McMansion
>garage the focal point of the home
>attached garages in general actually
>mismatch of styles
>fake doghouse dormers
>vinyl siding is the devil
>carpet anywhere
>broad exterior walls... with only one fucking window in it
>two story foyers/cathedral ceilings to an extent. Just wasted space
>massive just for the sake of it. Completely wasteful, costs more to heat/cool, maintain, everything. But you need two spare bedrooms to store exercise equipment you never use in, I get it.

And these are more personal taste
>open floor plans. Less privacy, and no changing colors or trim levels between rooms
>off-white everything. You have the ability to paint everything any color you like, it won't break anything, but you stick with the hospital theme?
>bay windows that don't extend to the foundation. No extra square footage, and the things gonna sag eventually so you can't even open the windows. Looks like shit too
>Modern designs. No trim, walls of glass, everything white and sparse, ew

Probably got some more too

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 15:55:34 2020 No.1794197

>>1794121
>you know there's such a thing as a nail guard right?
What if you have metal stud wall and use metal stud screw which will go though 2-3 mm of steel no problem?
I'm not even talking about pain in the ass to replace exposed pipes...

Hm... No matter how I hate PEX and other plastic memes, you can technically run a PEX or similar pipe inside of conduit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:12:44 2020 No.1794209

>>1794121
>nail guard
>>1794197
>What if
if you are willing to invest some time into protecting your pipes
why not go for the thinking man's choice and just mark in a plan where all your pipe lies?

honestly that goes right back to the main topic about my biggest pet peeve
not having proper plans because everyone building homes is a low iq nigger or spic and can't be bothered to document where they have just laid pipe x or cable y and how it is all connected
same goes for less obvious things like floors, walls and roof; nowadays everyone uses a giant sandwich of many layers: specific membranes, foams whatever but they can never be bothered to add to the plans what they used where

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:16:49 2020 No.1794212

>>1794209
>if you are willing to invest some time into protecting your pipes
>why not go for the thinking man's choice and just mark in a plan where all your pipe lies?
You never know where are they unless you've installed them
>not having proper plans because everyone building homes is a low iq nigger or spic and can't be bothered to document where they have just laid pipe x or cable y and how it is all connected
Plans often don't represent reality.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 16:30:28 2020 No.1794214

>>1794212
>You never know where are they unless you've installed them
yes but the other anons recommended products to use while installing them
so i was just giving an easier, less expensive yet superior alternative to do when installing anything
>Plans often don't represent reality.
yes because people are low iq retards as mentioned above who don't build as the plan demands and can't even be bothered to mark down their changes
your only options for accurate plans are to either check everything yourself during construction
or make proper documentation part of every contract and include fines they'll have to pay you should they fuck it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 18:58:14 2020 No.1794271 >>1794214 I know how to avoid people from modifying electrical shit. Just make breakers and such illegal. If you can't cut the current, retards will get fried.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:26:40 2020 No.1794281 >>1793681 How do you feel about A frames?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:52:42 2020 No.1794708 >>1794209 I went through my home after rough in and before sheetrock and did a video tour of every wall so I know exactly what is in them and where it is located.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:32:05 2020 No.1794759

>>1793198
>carpet floors. i remember these, in the early 80s and its probably the reason i got astma. just die.
>visible plumbing and electrical. steampunk is cool, in movies...
>tiles outside of bathroom and hallway
oh i slipped the wineglass and set it a little to hard on the floor, time to wash up wine and shattered glass
>tv, internet, antenna and power connectors not in the logical place to install a tv
shure, we will binge hbo with sun glare on the screen

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 17:22:04 2020 No.1794779 >>1793198 >French balconies >Drywall >Random distribution of power outlets >Range hoods that filter and recycle air into room >Anything that is design over function

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 18:09:54 2020 No.1794812 >>1793945 This, carpet is nasty unless you're a single healthy geriatric with no family to visit. Get a nice rug, get a couple and change them up a few times a year. Keep them clean.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 19:47:25 2020 No.1794866 >>1794779 >>Random distribution of power outlets That's called code, bruh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 20:20:17 2020 No.1794879 >>1793198 sink on an island.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 20:54:49 2020 No.1794898 >>1793198 >Pic related Looks like something out of Looney Tunes where somebody would just pull the whole door/frame along the wall, in this case to initiate a trip down the stairs.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:55:46 2020 No.1794916

>>1793198

I am currently designing my "dream home", so I have been thinking on this very topic lately. Some of you have bought up some good points already:
1) fake dormers
2) garages that are the focal point
3) Fake wood, in any capacity

I will add several others that are of personal taste to me...
4) Drywall. I don't want drywall at all if I can help it.
5) Closed or mostly closed floor plans. I want openness.
6) Front doors that are just a single 36" door. I want big doors.
7) Entries that open up directly to a stairway going up, with just a tiny entry way.
8) Low ceilings. Even 9' ceilings are not good enough
9) Goes with #4, but ceilings that are not smooth...you know, some sort of textured spackle...the worst
10) Quarter round on baseboards, and generally speaking baseboards themselves.

I could go on, but you get the idea.

Right now, my plan is 12' ceilings, with most of the exterior walls being windows. Polished and heated concrete floors. Single level or if multi-level, then only a couple of stairs at a time, for instance, to conform to a rolling plot of land.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 22:01:56 2020 No.1794917 >>1794916 What the fuck is wrong with baseboards you homo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:21:30 2020 No.1794967 >>1793198 You want tile on slab in places like AZ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 00:25:36 2020 No.1794969 >>1794916 >12' ceiling based. my parents have this really narrow kitchen, but the 14' ceiling makes it feel spacious

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 01:25:11 2020 No.1794984 >>1793681 High roof pitch looks cool

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 02:47:43 2020 No.1794993

Grey everything, they're even turning the taps grey.
Open plan en suite.
Those slab cut bathroom sinks.
Huge house tiny yard.
Giant pillars blocking the front door.
High gloss kitchens.
Bath tubs.
Carpet.
Brown brick, it looked shit in the 70s it looks shit now.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 10:03:03 2020 No.1795080

>>1794917

Ever seen floor to ceiling glass walls with baseboards? Once you get away from drywall, a lot of other materials do not need them.

My condo has wood panel walls and nice baseboard, but it's not necessarily the look I want in my house. One residence is enough.

Quarter round on the other hand, well there is no design place for it. The only use is for covering cheap or poor flooring installation.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 11:34:41 2020 No.1795116

>>1794084
I hit a water line with a 1 1/8" brad nail through baseboard and 1/2" drywall.

The crew lead wouldn't give me another piece of baseboard, so I had to use two pieces to make the last 3'. The plumber put the lines touching the drywall with no guard right behind my splice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 14:17:57 2020 No.1795186 >>1795080 Homo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 14:25:48 2020 No.1795188 >>1795080 Faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 14:40:31 2020 No.1795191 >>1793777 >carpet on walls Wtf is wrong with you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 15:04:28 2020 No.1795209 File: 72 KB, 603x960, 1578740631757.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1793198 Arc fault breakers. >oh you plugged in a vacuum? No electricity for you! >you plugged in a UPS? hahah think again bozo!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 16:01:18 2020 No.1795243 >>1795209 >noooo my faulty chink devices dont go brrrr

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 19:01:43 2020 No.1795340 >>1793745 your plumbing chase is outside?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 20:05:13 2020 No.1795370 >>1795191 sound insulation from vadims hardbass blyat

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 21:44:51 2020 No.1795416 >>1794111 So after sex you can go to the bathroom naked without a robe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 22:14:23 2020 No.1795431 >>1795416 >not being able to walk around in your entire house, nude, with zero repercussions 4chan.org/rules Global Rule 2, gtfo.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 01:07:58 2020 No.1795484
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>>1794041
This so much. I work a lot in a shitty city in MA called Brockton, and the town is full of beautiful Victorian and Edwardian mansions that are a decade away from being condemned. I’m sure there’s a thousand places in the US like it, gentrification can’t come soon enough.

Any place in the US where black and hispanic men are riding around on bicycles during working hours is bad fucking news. I don’t know why it has to be this way, it never was before the 80s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 07:00:03 2020 No.1795554 How do you redeem a house with no yard? Flat roof?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 07:44:50 2020 No.1795568 >suburban houses with no garage >bathroom being too close to living areas >carpet floors >laminate countertop >everything being a shade of white >double-basin sinks >curtains that touch the floor >window blinds

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 10:47:45 2020 No.1795684 >>1795416 not him, but so you can walk in on some one else taking a shit forgetting to lock the second door or someone has used the bathroom and forgot to unlock the door to the bedroom (or to the hallway forcing you to go through the bedroom)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 10:51:20 2020 No.1795687 >>1795568 >bathroom being too close to living areas this so hard nothing is as awkward as you're visiting someone and use their restroom only to realise due to the inadequate separation they're hearing your every discharge

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 11:09:02 2020 No.1795701 >>1795340 no, I only counted the indoor walls around the pipe / chimney It's not like I live in Croatia, or anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:50:44 2020 No.1795767 >>1793661 >>pvc or laminate floor (see: fake wood) Nothing wrong with this. Looks great and is arguably more durable / lower maintenance than real wood floor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:57:15 2020 No.1795773 >>1795767 Laminate I mean. PVC is shit.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 19:24:56 2020 No.1795988

>>1795484
>Any place in the US where black and hispanic men are riding around on bicycles during working hours is bad fucking news. I don’t know why it has to be this way, it never was before the 80s.
Because your neocon overlords wanted to import cheap shitty labor to cut down on overhead costs

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 01:53:33 2020 No.1796141 >carpet in bathroom

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 03:00:07 2020 No.1796157 File: 69 KB, 800x800, showerbath.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1793661 >shower in bath >>1793360 >J showers W-what's wrong on those? Pic related is my dream bathroom (except replacing the towel basket with a toilet)

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 00:14:11 2020 No.1796716

>>1793198
>Tile floors in bedrooms/living room

I'm torn on this personally. If it were up to me I'd have wood floors. But the husbando wanted tile floors throughout the house. And since the basement is my space I surrendered the battle and let him have it.

I have to say I'm glad we did. We are forever dragging in dirt, grime, sand, and crud because of dat der farm life. Then add in three kids and two Akitas and there's no way hardwood or laminate would have ever held up like the tile has.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:22:33 2020 No.1796806 >>1795243 Found the guy installing shit-tier afb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:30:58 2020 No.1796811 >>1793777 Wood is nice but otherwise I'm with you. >>1795191 You're going to annoy the neighbours with your bowling alley

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 06:07:36 2020 No.1796870 >>1795767 Bare concrete would be even more durable and low maintenance

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 06:18:54 2020 No.1796876

>>1796870
I briefly had an apartment like this. It was cool to lay on in summer, and the small of my back would kind of adhere to it in a way that let me make a loud glurping noise by arching it. Sort of like armpit farting but with a much larger area. It was very amusing! Highly recommended

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 06:41:47 2020 No.1796882

>>1796876
Kek I have a polished concrete floor, it's indeed very nice. I put floor heating in it so in winter that shit is toit. In summer it's nice and cool as you said. I'm still pondering on a way to let (cold) tap water run through the system for extra cooling. It would have to be a separate system from the mains because central heating system water is vile

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 09:11:00 2020 No.1796942 [DELETED]

>>1794209
Hah! I had a roof put on my last house and I showed up and was like damn that looks good. Good job spic crew, then I took a look around back, which hadn't been shingles yet, just at the ridge cap I saw a flutter of plastic. Long story short Jose explained that plastic wrap had been used in place of underlayment. Off came the roof.

Like where the fuck do spics get off thinking this is just as good as that, I hear my spic co workers say "it'll be fine" all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 09:19:53 2020 No.1796950 >>1796882 >I'm still pondering on a way to let (cold) tap water run through the system for extra cooling. Don't do this. You'll end up with condensation which will cause water damage and mold.

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 09:38:08 2020 No.1796960

>>1793198
>No area that separates shoe vs no-shoe areas
Japanese do this right, although in a house I prefer only the upstairs to be a no-shoe zone. Ideally there should be a landing at the base of the stairs that people can stand on while changing into slippers or shoes at ground level.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 09:52:25 2020 No.1796966 >>1796950 Hm, good point. The floor is encased in film and there's no space beneath it though. But lower walls may indeed get condensation

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 10:15:17 2020 No.1796979 >>1796942 Well then maybe you should spend the extra money to hire American labor, Goldsteinbergowitz

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 10:33:19 2020 No.1796997 >>1794984 They do, but the seeth is understandably about how it's all attic with no reasonable way to remodel the interior

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 10:49:57 2020 No.1797007 >>1793745 What program did you draw that with?

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 13:07:36 2020 No.1797069

>>1793198
Not putting the second floor bathroom above the first floor bathroom.
Or really any time you have water fixtures on opposite sides of the house but yet dont want to drop the ceiling down to accommodate pipes. No one understands how hard it is to plumb when everyone wants things tight and hidden. Either give me space to put pipes or let me decide bathroom layout

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:15:08 2020 No.1797121 >>1794916 So what for walls if not drywall? Plaster and lath? Or am I missing something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:28:55 2020 No.1797129 >>1797121 Asbestos cement board. Cement plaster on wire mesh idk

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:37:49 2020 No.1797136 >>1797129 why the aversion to gypsum plaster? personal preference sure but I'm curious if it's more than just how most people don't love to work with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 16:21:57 2020 No.1797167 None of you guys like carpet?? Are you all from hot places? Carpet is comfy.

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 16:32:40 2020 No.1797175

>>1797136
Gypsum is weaker, and it is less resistant to mold.
Only good thing is that it sets fast (15-20 minutes), compared to cement mixes.
>>1797167
Rug is fine. Wall-to-wall carpet is just plain disgusting. It gets dirty real easy, it smells horrible, and it is hard to wash without special equipment, which you don't want to rent, since most people use it to clean pets diarrhea and piss from carpet. And old farts in car seats.
>muh cold
I hate warm floors. Use slippers... Or walk in shoes (which is extra disgusting with carpet, since previous owners did exactly this, so if you do this, you need ceramic tile floor everywhere)

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 05:03:05 2020 No.1797498

>>1797167
>looks really bad compared to wood
>needs to be replaced every generation
>hard to remove stains
>constantly have to vacuum for it to look good
>furniture leaves impressions in it
>areas with lots of traffic wear out after a few years
>microscopic bugs, fleas and what else living in there

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 06:39:34 2020 No.1797524 >>1796157 What is with eurocucks and there inability to understand shower doors or curtains?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:39:35 2020 No.1797567 >>1793945 >>1793777 imagine being such a chimp you can't have carpet without it becoming filthy

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 10:55:16 2020 No.1797649 >>1797524 >needing door or curtain Pleb

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:03:38 2020 No.1797686 >>1793681 >microwave over range with """"hood"""" that just recycles the air i have one of these. i'm glad they didn't cut a hole in the side of the house now i can move my stove to wherever i want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:18:24 2020 No.1797763 >>1793216 >huge foyers so they can show off their wealth by building houses with wasted space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:25:23 2020 No.1797769 >>1793777 >plumbing not inside walls >carpet on wall Hello there, Ivan!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 15:09:08 2020 No.1797804 >>1793198 Basement bathrooms with no fan and no window, only a single vent for central air.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 16:35:36 2020 No.1797857 >>1796960 Who tf wears shoes indoors?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 17:17:43 2020 No.1797878 >>1795687 don't be so quick to attack this design. what if there was a girl pooping in there? you get to listen from the comfort of your sofa. that is obviously the intention they had in mind

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:38:56 2020 No.1797927 >>1797857 Lots of homes have laminate or tiles downstairs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:43:47 2020 No.1797933 File: 681 KB, 1022x731, 1550088589537.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1793198 Shitters next to sink.

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 08:44:09 2020 No.1798232

Overillumination and direct lighting. Too many houses just shove lights everywhere turning everywhere into over-illuminated hellholes. Ceiling downlight are especially bad. There should be one properly shaded ceiling light in a room, the rest of the lighting should be provided by wall lights or task lamps as required. The only place where it is acceptable to have direct unshaded ceiling lighting are in utility rooms or garages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:53:12 2020 No.1798261 >>1795988 This and democrats love diversity of skin color. Both same sides of the same asshole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:54:14 2020 No.1798263 >>1797524 They like showing themselves off. Why do you think there's so many nude beaches in Europe...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:06:26 2020 No.1798297 >>1793198 kek, Minecraft style.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:07:55 2020 No.1798298 >>1797933 nice dubs. >Shitters next to sink. Makes it easier if you are sick. Both ends have a place to rest. Also, any anon have that pic of a toilet IN a kitchen cabinet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:38:06 2020 No.1798310 >>1797007 some shitty android app that my wife downloaded, it was terrible >add appliance watch ad >add window watch ad >add stove watch ad >add doorway sorry, you need to wait 30 minutes to watch this ad

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:14:53 2020 No.1798329

>>1793198
in new-build flats in my city
- too many fucking windows so flats are a complete greenhouse.
- all windows are on same side. windows on limiters. generally 0 thought put into airflow.
- building designed for Maximum Energy Saving at the cost of overheating every summer.

- massive expanses of white plaster. no cornices or picture rails to make painting easier, rooms are just immense featureless white cubes

- kitchen in living room. kitchen needs walls so your house doesn't smell like stale cooking all the time.

- cooker hoods with no outdoor outlet. what's even the fucking point?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 16:07:20 2020 No.1798457 >>1795767 >t. tacky boomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:08:34 2020 No.1798863 >>1797927 again, who tf wears shoes indoors, I wear them to the closes object I can sit down on and then keep them off till I leave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:14:24 2020 No.1798868 >>1798863 I include slippers as shoes, and I only wear them downstairs. Upstairs is socks or bare feet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:18:26 2020 No.1798870 >>1798868 so long as the slippers don't leave the house more than just stepping onto the driveway that's fine

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:24:30 2020 No.1798871 >>1798863 >who tf wears shoes indoors Full blooded americans

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:31:29 2020 No.1798874 >>1798863 had a buddy in highschool that wore shoes around the house, even when on his bed sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 08:33:08 2020 No.1798875 >>1798871 How can mutts be full blooded?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:17:47 2020 No.1798891 >>1798874 Fucking disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:27:55 2020 No.1798896 >>1797769 Privyet.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:22:51 2020 No.1798946

>>1793198
I did a lot of new construction HVAC. My biggest pet peeves were:
>$500,000 house with a $12 garbage thermostat on the wall and the cheapest POS furnace/AC available because the builder is cheap
>most newcon homes have woefully undersized duct systems because they want to keep materials to a bare minimum. Would see shit all the time like a single 6" run going across the basement and teeing off into multiple 4" runs (all flex of course). The supers all say the same shit "that's how it is on the plans"
>cookie cutter homes with a single monster return grille in the living area (sometimes up to 30" x 30") that you know will be loud as fuck because of the cheap shit furnace
>people getting upgraded HVAC with a two-stage furnace but still using shitty $12 thermostat which pretty much defeats the purpose of a two stage system
>people who have the builder place the furnace all the way at one end of the basement so they can build their fucking mancaves, but then they wonder why the airflow sucks in the baby's room (which is always the furthest away from the furnace)
>people who tell you exactly where they want the AC put outside and then call to have it moved a month later because NOW they want to build a deck.
>people who just have the deck built right over the AC anyway then complain it won't cool
Never buy cookie cutter homes in shit developments. They are built by low bidding retards with the cheapest materials possible. (I know, I was one of those retards) I used to laugh at the builders claiming their homes were "Amish Built" - they actually would bring in the cheapest Mennonites they could find. Used to see them all the time with beer in one hand and a nailgun in the other. The drywall crews were all illegals, they would sleep in the basement of the first house on the street and move once they finished that street. If you came by at dusk you'd see crews of illegals running around with flashlights doing landscaping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:48:44 2020 No.1799063 >>1794121 All white is best teir for lighting fuck your decor Betty. Function over form

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:54:52 2020 No.1799068

>>1794916
If you want plaster walls you are going to have a hell of a time finding someone who knows how to put them up, and if you do, you're going to pay out the ass for it. The total cost might be more than the construction of the house. I looked into it because I loved old italian plaster walls, the way the light hits them is just unparalleled.
The closest thing in terms of money is to just do drywall and then shell out for REALLY good paint, like farrow and ball tier, 120$+ a can in order to get that same aesthetic. I can't look at cheap paint the same way anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:00:12 2020 No.1799072 >>1796870 This. Concrete floor, cinder block walls, whatever roof. Visible plumbing and electrical... Basically I unironically want to live in just a garage

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:03:50 2020 No.1799077 >>1799063 lol, a splash of color gonna effect lighting that much? Oh no, I can't read a book at midnight with one 60 watt bulb, better paint my entire home white. >Function over form is that what they said when they were building commie blocks?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:14:12 2020 No.1799082

>>1799077
No idea but yes, I want to easily be able to read and see with as little light as possible. Im also this guy>>1799072
I don't want to have to clean something everyday except a quick wipe and sweep. I'll hose everything down a couple times a month and be good. More time to work on my car, which is another benefit to my design. All it takes to go from my chair to my car to start work is 60 feet.
I might be autistic a little idk but I honestly don't understand the need for much else. Why stress over things you don't have to? Wouldn't it be sick to hose down your house in 20 minutes and be done for weeks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:29:34 2020 No.1799275 >>1798863 Honestly I find it weird that people wear any clothing indoors at all. What's the point of lining your walls and floor with padded bear furs if your guests don't even roll around

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:39:05 2020 No.1799279

>>1799275
ALL OF IT IS FUCKING WEIRD! I really don't get you people. You build high maintenance things and then hate maintaining them. And these things never have a genuine use. Carpets? Why?
>warm on feet
They get dirty as fuck, torn up, and humans invented footwear
>wood
Oh no! I spilled clean it quick there's liquid on the floor!
Or, you could use concrete. Ever been to an auto shop? Spit on the ground, throw your hammer if your mad, oops oil spill good thing it's easy to clean.
The fuck is wrong with you people? How long would it take you to clean your house top to bottom deep clean? In my ideal house it's about an hour plus laundry which is mostly afk anyway. How much time have you wasted? How much are you paid per hour? That's how much money you've lost for spending on shit that actually matters

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:47:14 2020 No.1799284

>>1799279
I agree with you completely (although I wouldn't settle on concrete); in fact I think practically everything about how we build most homes is completely fucking retarded and primitive. From materials to systems design to the use of space, this isn't how we should be implementing our habitats.
But that's what you get when we've all been gaslit for generations by a corrupt financial/real estate/development complex in which the actual end users are at the very bottom of the list of concerns.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:15:01 2020 No.1799298

>>1793198
>Open floor plans
>Everything being shades of white/gray
>Steel and glass

Don't get me wrong, I like having big enough rooms, but when your living room merges with your dining room merges with your foyer, that is just a big turn-off. The second and third feed into the same antiseptic vibe, like you just walked into a high-end hospital ward instead of a house. Homes should be places of warmth, color, and life. Not cold, calculating sterility.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:23:59 2020 No.1799306 File: 68 KB, 300x458, Dumb Apartment.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1794112 I'll see your challenge and raise you one. Was looking at an apartment and this was the floorplan. Yellow is carpet.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:33:14 2020 No.1799309

>>1799306
Wow, a coin operated laundry inside a private apartment? How the fuck does that work?
Nice motivation to learn to pick tube locks though.

A couple years ago I checked out a neat little flat which I kinda liked, but the tiny "laundry" closet had a thick shelf awkwardly fixed in the middle of it in a way that would prevent you from putting your own machines in there. It made no sense until I realised the flats were on a corner block around from a laundromat owned by the landlord.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 22:36:44 2020 No.1799336

>>1799306

there was a coin operated laundry in my college house and after a month I took it apart and setup a bypass switch so it wouldn't count the amount of "change" added when I started a cycle

nobody else knew so there was always cash in the box when he came to collect

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 02:48:46 2020 No.1799396 File: 2.86 MB, 960x1120, murica.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Fake window shutters

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:35:36 2020 No.1799408 >>1793198 People tearing out carpet and putting in hardwood floors in living rooms and bedrooms. Just horrible acoustics and no heat retention. This new anti-carpet meme can do one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:42:08 2020 No.1799412 Lack of ventilation in a bathroom. Cheap ass tile, double so if it is a color which fades and there are replacement tiles glued down with the old. Painted brown walls.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:02:00 2020 No.1799526 >>1794916 Low ceilings are comfy af for mezzanines, though. My entire second floor is 7' high and it's real cozy.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:10:55 2020 No.1799532

>>1793198
All-white interiors.
I'm currently in the end-stages of building a "casco" loft (basically an empty concrete cube you fill in yourself) in an old weavery from 1907,
and pretty much everyone in the entire building has all-white interiors.

No warmth, no coziness, just sterile rooms for days.
White plaster over the original red brick walls,
white paint over the original cast iron pillars,
white coating over the original concrete ceiling,
white marble floors, white fucking everything.

It's goddamn ghastly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:57:29 2020 No.1799699 >>1795431 >no beautiful white children detected. Try-hard faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:18:08 2020 No.1799778 >>1797167 From UK here, sat over a worn-out carpet now. Would prefer just a pair of slippers desu mate, but then again my foot-circulation is shocking.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:35:35 2020 No.1799816
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>>1793681
What is it with you fucking zoomers and your lack of understanding of what a dining room is for?
Dinette in your kitchen is where you eat with your family throughout the week.
Dining Room is where you eat with your family and friends and have dinner parties and if you're a functional adult you should be having people over, at least family members, at least once a week.
When I was looking at new houses, none of them came with a dining room, most of them didn't even come with a dinette. I guess you're all too busy eating off your knees in front of your goytube.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:47:44 2020 No.1799826

>>1799408
Hardwood is not meant to be walked on. You rip out carpet, you put down hardwood, you put down a rug pad, then you put down a rug. Twice a year or more you take your rugs and rug pads out and beat them or get them washed professionally.
If you're just ripping out carpet and putting down hardwood and then living like that then yes, you're doing it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:11:39 2020 No.1799844 >>1799816 >you're a functional adult you should be having people over, at least family members, at least once a week t. faggot who bought a grill and keeps asking people over for bbq cookout fuck off asshole i dont want your shitty cooking

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:05:13 2020 No.1799909

>>1799816
No one has people over for formal dinners anymore, because that's weird. This isn't the 1980s. If you have people over, they can sit at the bar on your island, pull up an extra chair at the table, or eat on the couch with their food on the coffee table. It's all the same room now anyways.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:26:28 2020 No.1800010
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>>1798863
This may just be aspergers, but I can't get any work done or concentrate on anything unless I'm wearing pants, socks, and shoes. So I either don't take them off at the entrance or wear a different pair when i get home. Not talking about slipper either, often just a pair of motorcycle boots that have been taken out of rotation.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:39:56 2020 No.1800013
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>>1798946
>deck built over the AC.
My condo has this. The AC is tucked in a corner but there is at least two to three feet above the top.
Though I almost never run the AC since I'm in SE MI but grew up in Central America. It never gets hot enough here for me.
How much space above is the bare minimum requirement?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:55:39 2020 No.1800024 >>1793360 What the hell is a J shower?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 02:41:08 2020 No.1800056 >>1800010 I believe that is literally a symptom of asperger's

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 04:33:09 2020 No.1800103 >>1797524 Seriously, half a pane of glass is not a shower door.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 05:02:51 2020 No.1800118 >>1799816 >With family and friends Maybe something to do with the whole loneliness epidemic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:13:45 2020 No.1800140 >>1800013 Depends where you live. I was told 18" and 24" requirements when my neighbor was looking into it. We're in Colorado.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:25:57 2020 No.1800145 >>1800056 You're correct, but aspergers isn't real.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:28:47 2020 No.1800146 >>1793360 >J showers what

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:52:41 2020 No.1800162

>>1793216
>one good rain and the system fails.
Las Vegas averages about 4" of rain a year.
San Diego is 7".
Houses don't even have gutters half the time because they serve no purpose. Apparently there's a whole world out there that's different than what you're used to...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 16:09:11 2020 No.1800455 File: 363 KB, 2598x590, zones.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1794197 >>1794209 here in Germany electrical code only gives you these areas for wiring you you know where you can put nails.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 16:33:19 2020 No.1800466 Not taken water table into consideration, fuck this wet and leaky basement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 17:36:13 2020 No.1800505 >>1800455 Germans aren't mexicans, you know...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 00:13:41 2020 No.1800695 >>1800505 Interesting theory

Anonymous Sat Apr 18 13:47:00 2020 No.1801068

>>1799816
>dinner parties
It took me 10 years of living on my own to figure out that I was NEVER going to have people over for dinner, much less dinner parties

I finally got rid of the dining table, the dining room altogether. Hell I got rid of any furniture that couldn't be moved by a single person up/down stairs. I sleep on a futon on the floor and my "dining room" is now my office. I love it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 13:49:55 2020 No.1801071 >>1801068 Based neet

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 14:22:03 2020 No.1801086 >>1800695 This is not theory. Pablo, just like Ivan, gives zero fucks about such thing. +/- 1 meter is fine, and nigga with drill is to blame for going though a cable. Germans tend to stick to guidelines more.

Anonymous Sat Apr 18 14:23:53 2020 No.1801089

not having a floor drain
fridge/freezer that open in front instead of top (and also too large fridge too small freezer)
not having pocket sliding doors (because I'm a weeb)
not having a window in the bathroom (i'm weird like that ok)
not having a window by the kitchen sink
not having a room or section of apartment/house on plain cement slab (for DDR)
not having a private place to sunbathe nude or sleep outside
houses that maximize front yard and minimize back yard (I'd just want like a strip of front yard for privacy bushes/trees and then make the back yard as large as possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 14:46:09 2020 No.1801107 >>1793216 >McMansion: Where I don't like any of this shit what the fuck kind of house are you supposed to make then

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 17:20:06 2020 No.1801213 File: 39 KB, 585x468, 66448874.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] idk, is this ok to use?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 17:23:36 2020 No.1801218 >>1801213 yes, you piss in corner

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 20:15:21 2020 No.1801306 >>1801071 What would a neet do with a home office?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 11:30:58 2020 No.1801644 File: 175 KB, 1594x802, autocad apartment 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1801306 play minecrack and mess with autocad

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 14:50:50 2020 No.1801810 >>1795687 >Pooping at a friends house Poor etiquette. Unless you're in gastric distress, wait until you get home.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 17:39:16 2020 No.1801912 >>1793198 i hate it when people have too much shit in their houses and i fucking hate krimskrams so much

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 19:46:53 2020 No.1801991 >>1801306 jack off

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 20:25:09 2020 No.1802025 >>1801991 at that point its not an office, but a crank chamber

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 21:04:49 2020 No.1802048 >>1802025 a wanktuary

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 21:59:52 2020 No.1802083 File: 9 KB, 189x292, 1542689475511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1802048

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 00:40:49 2020 No.1802140

>>1801810
You've never spent the night at a friend's house and had to poop? You'd ask a friend to hold it overnight, and are talking about poor etiquette? Everybody poops. It should be as comfortable as possible for everyone involved. Same reason there should be a plunger readily accessible in every bathroom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 00:52:55 2020 No.1802146 >>1798863 I have broken my toes so many times i've lost count If im not in my my bed or the shower i wear my trainers all the time bare feet or just sock is too dangerous for me

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 02:10:03 2020 No.1802166

>>1793661
I actually really like laminate. It might depend on how often you're barefoot and if you live somewhere where you sit on the floor but when I lived in Korea the laminate floors were A++, I really wish I had laminate here in Australia instead of the hardwood I have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 02:10:24 2020 No.1802168 >>1801644 The most based post ITT

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 02:23:16 2020 No.1802173

>not having windows in every room
I could never survive in an apartment.

>long narrow hallway between rooms with no skylight
My old place was like this and it was so fucking dark even with the light on and the hallway was doorway sized. Had some paramedics come through once and they said those kinds of hallways are their worst nightmare, if they had actually needed to carry someone out through there they would have struggled.

>aircon but it's nowhere near the bedroom(s)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 07:08:43 2020 No.1802248 >>1802146 how are you that retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 07:50:00 2020 No.1802270 >>1796960 Why are mud rooms and entryways no longer a thing? My old place had both and it was great. The place before that had at least an entryway but no mud room. Current place you walk in straight into the lounge room/foyer thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:32:04 2020 No.1802488 carpets

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:38:57 2020 No.1802536 >>1802140 If you're using a plunger at a dinner party, You've seriously fucked up. A man doesn't sit on another man's throne.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 18:12:52 2020 No.1802676 >>1800013 Jose, you need to go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 18:22:55 2020 No.1802684 >>1802536 I'm a man and I drop deuce where I goddamn please. What are you going to do about it faggot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 18:43:12 2020 No.1802700 >>1802173 I keep the curtains shut even in rooms with windows.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 20:50:29 2020 No.1802767

>parents bought a brand new home in a planned community of 1k+ homes
>rush built by mexicans
>main sidewalks of community layed brick
>garbage
>plastic liners exposed
>less than 10 years
>destroyed parts by roots
>craftsmanship zero

>only decent concrete work community pool
>less than 10 years
>people replacing porches
>cracks in foundations

>shit electrical
>lightening storm this year
>every house on parents street needed electrician
>mom tells me about community facebook
>complete hvac systems btfo
>"act of god"
>not covered under home warranty

>"protected areas" in easements
>trees planted by hoa behind all wooded homes
>plant once forget forever
>parents and neighbors already to remove several trees that fell over

I'm going to take some pictures of shit for /diy/. These people are mostly military and they're getting fucked on these houses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 20:59:05 2020 No.1802770 >>1802767 >These people are mostly military They deserve it for being stupid, imperialist goons.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 22:00:54 2020 No.1802791

>exterior walls so thin a 12v drill on a less than full battery and a well used hole saw can chew through it in seconds
>attic hvac systems. fucking stop this. if you want an AC but the house didn't have one from the get go and that's the only place for one, welp too bad. no ac for you. fucking move out or deal with the heat.
>massive basement. but the water heater and furnace are touching one another. in the corner. under the stairs. in a tiny room solely built to house the furnace and water and keep it out of sight. also the sump pump and fuse box are on the other side of the basement. where the only floor drain is. and the the basement outside of those two rooms is all finished. it's not drop ceiling also.
>no ground wires on anything.
>gas lines that are anything other than black iron.
>water lines that are anything other than copper.
>running 3'' flue for the majority of the run, but then reducing to 2'' 3 feet before exiting the home
>circular duct. that isn't screwed together. nor taped. just, fitted together. and the slightest disturbance will cause utter terror to unfold before you
>thermostat wire ran through the floor and walls, and strapped down. with knots throughout it. and it only has enough slack at the thermostat for the OG thermostat connections. also if you undo it, it will fall into the wall. there is no basement, just a crawl. it's about 7'' high, at the highest point.
>dry walled in furnaces. just, why?
>ACs on hills, where no real care was put into it's pad. so the old one is sitting at a solid 45 degree slant. but somehow your new AC must be level.
>furnace in a closet. with a door and frame in front of it, which is 2'' slimmer than the furnace.
I could go on. I think of the hundreds of homes I've been in, I could count the good ones on two hands. At least from a utility stand point, designers and builders do not give a shit. A nice kitchen and pointlessly big living room is what sells houses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:50:23 2020 No.1802838 >>1802684 Not invite you over to shit up my bathroom with your ignorance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:55:38 2020 No.1802839 >>1802536 You're telling me if you had to shit at someone else's house, you'd leave? Or that you'd tell a guest to leave in the same situation?

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:10:17 2020 No.1802842

>>1802767
>shit electrical
>lightening storm this year
>every house on parents street needed electrician
>mom tells me about community facebook
>complete hvac systems btfo
>"act of god"
>not covered under home warranty
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm fairly certain that "electrical code violation" beats force majure. If you have evidence of the former, lawyer up and bankrupt them in court.

>>1802791
>attic hvac systems. fucking stop this
Care to share why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 07:59:00 2020 No.1802974 >>1801644 that looks 3D, show ISO view. Is that a sun path on the top right? what the fuck version of CAD is that?

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 08:06:11 2020 No.1802976

>>1793198
>"Open concept"
>Everything being a non-descript, soulless, shade of off-grey and white
>Garage being the focal point of the house from the street
>Floorplans in which a hallway immediately meets the person upon entering through the front door, and the hallway ultimately leads to an "open living" LDK area.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 08:44:25 2020 No.1802989 >>1802791 Pex is great grampa

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:38:24 2020 No.1803034 >>1802989 polybutylene and CPVC were great too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:12:05 2020 No.1803170 >>1802974 it's not 3d that is the sun's path in the afternoon (just a rough estimate nothing exact) Autocad 2006 (I cling religiously to the command line interface and don't like 2009 and later)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:52:56 2020 No.1803192 >>1803170 I've never used 2006, what's different about the command line interface pre-2009?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 16:13:43 2020 No.1803250 >>1803192 nothing that I can remember. I'm using '18 this moment, started on '04.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 16:16:31 2020 No.1803252 File: 3.64 MB, 4032x3024, 20200421_151438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1803170 The ribbon sucks but the command line didn't change anon. It's there at the bottom of my '18 version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:25:07 2020 No.1803320 File: 196 KB, 501x589, grswtzger4w.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1802536 >A man doesn't sit on another man's throne. fucking food obsessed boomer, its a toilet not a throne, you don't shit into a throne

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 22:37:04 2020 No.1803426

>>1802839
We're not talking about a quick
" do you mind if I use your restroom?"
Here.
If you're about to blow ass and paint the bowl with a beer shit,
Its pretty ignorant to assume your host will happily scrub off the remains with a toilet brush later on.
Destroy your own toilet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 22:48:08 2020 No.1803435 >>1793198 Low ceilings. Carpets, which are shit, can be torn out easily, but good luck trying to raise the ceiling after your light fixture gets smashed.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 23:43:16 2020 No.1803459

>>1803426
See, I leave a toilet brush, plunger, and extra roll of paper in every bathroom. I don't associate with people who would fuck up a toilet and not clean it given the ability to, so I don't care about letting someone use my bathroom. I expect, and receive, the same courtesy from my friends.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:08:03 2020 No.1803469 >>1802989 >>1803034 Lead was all the rage once.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:09:16 2020 No.1803471 >>1797567 Carpets off gas formaldehyde and other great things and harbour mould and allergens. Everyone who knows anything about indoor hygiene and microbiology knows carpets are shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:23:23 2020 No.1803474 Bump

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 03:10:37 2020 No.1803522
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>>1803320
Historically inaccurate, see Louis XIV.

However americans do need to get over this king/queen faggotry. You aren't a king. Your home isn't a castle. You're objectively a peasant being raped by a financial system with a marketing machine that feeds you that shit so you don't behave inconveniently

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 07:00:40 2020 No.1803593 >>1793360 Do you mean gas chambers?

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 07:14:10 2020 No.1803600

>>1802842
>Care to share why?
Because they very rarely are set up in a way you can even get to them. Let alone work on them. Forget changing them out. It's usually very far away from attic entrance, it usually doesn't have a walk way so all you can do is lunge from rafter to rafter for footing, there's duct runs all over the place and in your way, it's hotter than fuck up there, you usually have to crawl under something to get to the unit, and once you get to it you find out the doors to the unit are screwed on with Philips screws so the nut drivers you brought are useless. Fuck them so much. Since a few years ago I have started to refuse to service them. I don't give a fuck how much money I'm missing out on passing on them, it's not worth breathing in the fiber glass insulation, it's not worth the risk of over heating and dying, it's not worth the general hassle.
You bought a home with an attic system? Well good job retard, I hope it catches fire and kills you in their sleep.
>>1802989
it's great til you go to replace the furnace and find out the line voltage has no ground wire. and you're in a finished basement with no way to run a ground wire to the fuse box without cutting into the ceiling. and the water heater right next to you uses pex lines even though the main water inlet a few rooms over is comes in as copper and is grounded. fuck pex you cheap lazy nigger. if you use it, make sure everything else in your house isn't jank as fuck or else you are in for some high bills/headache in the future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 07:34:17 2020 No.1803603 >>1803192 I recall them switching some things about, some commands that now bring up option windows were pure command line before, I don't know I probably just needed to change some settings but I'm an old codger and it works for me

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 09:14:29 2020 No.1803626

>>1794779
Aside from bathrooms and countertops, electrical code calls for a maximum of 12' of horizontal wall space between electrical outlets in residential locations. Combine that with no real planning for where furniture will be going or whatever the engineers didn't do, and bam, there's what makes your "random".

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 10:14:44 2020 No.1803646 >>1803626 >Combine that with no real planning for where furniture will be going Yeah right. Get back to us when you design houses that anticipate every furniture layout possible and acomodate all equally well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 11:38:00 2020 No.1803691 >>1800013 3-4 feet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 12:29:47 2020 No.1803717 >>1803646 Hmm, you seemed to take offense to the objective fact that no real planning goes into receptacle placement in homes outside of the NFPA-70. Engineer?

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:44:16 2020 No.1803761

>>1802166
I feel this I don't like my house to feel fragile. I wanna be able to drop shit on the floor or move stuff around without scraping everything up. Maybe it's because I grew up in an old house with hardwood floors that were absolutely destroyed by the time I was in my late teens.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 22:25:40 2020 No.1804074

>>1803761
Oh yeah that's another thing, fuck hardwood and tile for dropping things. And fuck wood especially for dragging things.
Got some big gashes in the hardwood floor near my breakfast table because the floor protectors on the legs of the stools wore down enough that the metal legs started gouging the floor when people would move the chair.

I hated carpet when I had it but fuck I miss being able to comfortably chuck things across the room without worrying about either the floor getting fucked up or whatever I'm throwing shattering into a million pieces cause the designer decided floors should be the hardest metal known to man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 23:16:13 2020 No.1804093 >>1793826 Fuck grass

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 01:37:48 2020 No.1804140 >>1793198 Agreed. Fuck tile where it's not absolutely necessary. >>1799532 Most homes tend to feel more like medical clinics these days. >>1799816 Most people use backyard entertaining areas for that kind of thing now.

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