Oriented Strand Board

[Anonymous No.1759695]

Can anyone tell me what this is good?
I've only heard negative opinions.

[THe_KvD !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1759697]

>>1759695
It’s cheap. It’s good for giving you splinters.

[Anonymous No.1759711]

worst "building material" since particle board

[Anonymous No.1759712]

>>1759695
>Can anyone tell me what this is good?
I wanted to say for concrete forms but even then the moisture would probably fuck it up unless it’s treated. I’ve seen guys use it for quick-build plan tables on jobsites, that’s about the only “good” use I’ve seen for it so far.

[Anonymous No.1759730]

I used it in my garage instead of drywall. It can take more of a beating plus you can just screw shit into it unlike drywall.

[Anonymous No.1759738]

>>1759695
Best I can tell it has grown to be the dominant sheathing choice due to price, hitting the market in the 80's. Looks like if you didn't precisely control moisture movement you got fucked. Can't find stats on failure rates of houses made from it, but if it truly can't work we're gonna know it because it's fucking everywhere. Looks like it provides an up to code shear strength but not a nail base for siding. We're in the customer testing phase.

https://www.sbcmag.info/news/2015/jul/remodeler-saysworst-decades-building-science-was-1980s-and-90s

[Anonymous No.1759744]

Regular OSB is kind of shitty, at least it's cheap, like 30% of plywood cheap. Weyerhaeuser EdgeGold is fan-fucking-tastic though, it's holds up to moisture better than plywood, is more stable, and is just generally easier to work with for doing flooring/sheathing.

[Anonymous No.1759792]

>>1759695
It's good as in it's cheap, also good if you like making your life miserable with splinters and or toxic fumes while cutting.
I used it for a work bench top with some 1/8 hardboard over it since it was around, it's fine.

[Anonymous No.1759797]

>>1759695
One side is treated.... That goes on the outside to resist water. If you keep the edges and underside dry it does just fine.

[Anonymous No.1760151]

>>1759695
A roofing Co. owner in Atlanta had his guys use 1/2 inch as decking on his new building.
He was walking on it after it was laid and it broke through and he dieded.

[Anonymous No.1760205]

It's cheap, ressource friendly and has good properties for a general structural indoor building material. I used it behind drywall and as a sub floor. If you lay down tounge and groove plates with overlapping seams in two layers glued together you get a very sturdy and stable subfloor. Keeps hardwood floor from developing cracks over the years and works great together with other noise dampening methods to get quiet floors in old buildings without concrete floors.

Also it is a good material for prototyping (speakers, ramps, furniture sub frames etc.).

I would never use these in places where they could come into contact with water though there are classes which are approved for that.

>>1760151
>He was walking on it after it was laid and it broke through and he dieded.
Must have been really shitty quality then.

[Anonymous No.1760223]

>>1760151
lol

[Anonymous No.1760263]

Makes great shop furniture

[Anonymous No.1760291]

>>1759695
landlord here, whenever I renovate a house I put 3/8" OSB on the studs, then go over that with the 5/8" type X drywall.

Not only does this provide greater fire resistance and sound-deadening, the tenants can't punch holes in the walls.
I know of at least 1 case of a broken hand and another case of a dislocated shoulder thanks to my walls.
feelsgoodman.jpeg

[Anonymous No.1760428]

>>1760291

>things that never happened for 400, alex

You do not take a 1/2" wall and change it to a 1" wall unless you are going to replace all the door jambs, window trim, electrical outlets and wiring that is too short in some instances, just to piss off drunks who punch the walls.

[Anonymous No.1760440]

>>1760428
actually, yes, we do.
when we do a full gut out job, the houses are stripped down to the studs for the usual reasons , adding the 3/8" OSB doesn't add too much to the budget cost or the other things you mention as we are doing that work anyway with the OSB already in mind.

and yes, we do it due to the thousands and thousands of dollars we've lost over the years due to tenants punching holes in walls, or using huge framing nails to hanging their shit, all of which wrecks the regular drywall, which means fixing has to be done, which means more downtime on that property.

just like why we do all new PEX plumbing, new wiring, new HVAC, the trivial cost of adding OSB buys some peace of mind.

[Anonymous No.1760553]

>>1760291
>greater fire resistance
>osb

[Anonymous No.1760578]

>>1760553
you're tarded, fire resistance is counted as "burn through" time, which is how long it takes for fire to breach a wall, thicker wall = longer burn through time.

just 1/2" drywall is like a 10 minute burn through time
5/8" type-X drywall is like 20 minutes burn through time, add a plaster coat over than add 10 minutes, add OSB backing you're at 40 minute burn through time.

[Anonymous No.1760646]

>>1760578
>40 minutes of burn in a sealed room
Fire needs air.

[Anonymous No.1760652]

>>1759712
use melamine for smaller concrete forms...like table tops or counter tops

[Anonymous No.1760653]

>>1759695
cheaper alternative to plywood and is just as strong

[Anonymous No.1760672]

>>1760653

*Until it gets wet at which point it rapidly loses structural integrity

The "advanced OSB" doesn't necessarily have this problem, but at that point it's more glue and chemical than wood, with shittier fire resistance and off gassing compared to plywood.

[Anonymous No.1760674]

>>1760428
Not that Jew but the electrical trim modifications aren’t much work, just add some longer wires as jumpers/pigtails for your hot/switch leg+neutral+ground and a deeper plaster ring. Get an extension box or replace the shitty blue plastic cuckbox with a deep junction box, ezpz

[Anonymous No.1760700]

>>1759695
Epoxy coating it gives an interesting look for some applications, because it has that wild/random appearance. Also makes it smooth to the touch, waterproofs it, etc.

OSB can also be laminated and then epoxied over using the "endgrain" as the show face. Looks kinda funky but then people also like burl wood so it may be worth looking into.

[Anonymous No.1760769]

>>1760700
Oh shit.
Thanks for the post.

[Anonymous No.1760776]

>>1759695
It's shit and here in Europe nobody uses them besides for concrete pouring formwork or temporal covering at construction sites.

[Anonymous No.1760778]

>>1759695
Here in Europe nobody uses them besides for concrete pouring formwork or temporary covering at construction sites.

[Anonymous No.1760780]

>>1760778
Can you post what is used in its place?

[Anonymous No.1760781]

>>1759695
It is stronger than plywood, because fibers are oriented randomly. But unlike plywood, weaker water resistance. And plywood has shit resistance, btw.
So, basically one hole in siding barrier and you're done. Rotted away. Plywood would last a year. Shiplap would last forever.

[Anonymous No.1760846]

>>1760781
>Shiplap would last forever.
My house was built in the 50s. Shiplap on studs with tar paper between. Outsides of a few spots near the bottom that rotted from poor maintenance the wood is original. As long as it doesn't say wet too long wood lasts a very long time.

[Anonymous No.1760860]

>>1760440
Why the fuck do you rent out a full renovation refit to junkies who punch holes in the wall? What exactly is teh business model here?

[Anonymous No.1760874]

>>1760860
It doesn't matter the income level, or how good or bad someone is on paper.
People of all classes are shit.

Some of the worst tenants I've ever had have been nurses making 65K a year (my rentals are near a hospital)... the level of shit and damage they cause... hooboy. then they get mad when I take them to court, like they think they're entitled to wreck a place.
Honestly, I've had less problems with broke people working 2 jobs vs. the "professional" class.


But for the business model I have to get the biggest bang for the buck, to do that I have to show a large upfront remodeling cost. I buy a severely dated house cheap, dump about 30K into, rent it for a few years, where in 3 years I can gross around 45K, before the 5 year mark I turn it out in a flip for a well over 100K return on the initial investment.

[Anonymous No.1760897]

>>1759695
cheap, good and now with 100% less formaldehyde. just keep in mind that it's not plywood, never was intended to replace plywood, but if you keep it dry you'll be golden'

[Anonymous No.1760902]

>>1760778
Yeah they do. It's incredibly common as a roofing material. Osb/plastic/slats/roof tiles.

[Anonymous No.1760903]

>>1760874

The entire nursing culture in the US is horrible and toxic. It is so bad that people have done studies on it, written books on it, etc.

I used to do maintenance for a company that owned a bunch of hospitals so I was constantly having to deal with nurses and they really are the worst.

Super entitled, catty, cunty, bitchy, know it alls with a huge superiority complex coupled with a huge persecution complex and the adult cultural equivalent of what you'd find among a junior high school mean girls clique.

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1760905]

>>1760903

[Anonymous No.1760917]

It's cheap
That's the full list of benefits to OSB

[Anonymous No.1760932]

>>1760903
>>1760905
No joke, my wife fucking wigged out and left me after becoming a nurse due to this attitude.

[Anonymous No.1760994]

>>1760917

I dont like using OSB in general but it is technically stronger than Plywood as long as it hasn't gotten wet. The first time your average OSB gets wet, it loses on average 10% of its strength, making it weaker than Plywood. Subsequent soakings continue to reduce its strength. Shit like Advantech and similar products are better in this regard, but they have their own trade offs.

[Anonymous No.1761001]

>>1760917
This.
>>1760994
So it's stronger as long as nobody glances at it.

[Anonymous No.1761197]

>>1760874
>I turn it out in a flip
What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.1761198]

>>1761197
pretty sure it means "sell it", you know "flipping" a house?

[Anonymous No.1761199]

>>1761198
I guess I had a brain fart. I just didn’t know if it makes sense to reno a house then sell it in 3-5 years after renting it out to alcoholic ego tripping ragie wagie nursecunts. My mom and I stand to inherit an ancient house from my grandma when she passes away and it’s 5.-1mi away from a local public hospital-and-med-school. My mom doesn’t want to go through the hassle of renting it out but I’d like to try and dip a toe into the jewish world of landlording so I can make money off the wagies who make more money than me. I work in construction doing electrical so I’m able to do a lot of the renovations on my own and whatever I can’t do I can sub out to guys I know.
>tldr is it worth it to reno and rent out an ancient cinderblock house that needs at least $10-15k in electrical work (no grounding, ancient 4ckt fed pacific panel)

[Anonymous No.1761205]

Flat and cheap

[Anonymous No.1761766]

>>1760903
Lmao. My mom is a nurse and when she moved she quit one job she'd had for years to get a better paying job closer to home but then she left because, and I quote "working there was like being back in fucking junior high" and now she commutes 1hr+ at least twice a week so she can work with women she knows and likes and who are in her age bracket.

[Anonymous No.1761780]

>>1759744
OSB and plywood cost the same here now. They even have fucking treated OSB. Like it can go out in the weather. lol I use solid lumber for sheathing.

[Anonymous No.1761782]

>>1760903
>>1760932
It is because the job is ultra fucking stressful and that does weird shit to your head. They either go a bit nuts, take drugs/drink, and/or get fat because of it. Those who don't are 100% psychopathic, but will look normal and act normal despite the horrors they have to go through every day.

[Anonymous No.1761788]

>>1761782
>It is because the job is ultra fucking stressful and that does weird shit to your head.
What, like nursing is the only stressful job? Firefighters or linemen don’t have it as bad as nurses, apparently?

[Anonymous No.1763233]

>>1759695
I built a tiny cabin with it. Cheap, universal and reliable material, whats not to love.

[Anonymous No.1763236]

>>1761788
Firefighters get camaraderie nurses all fucking hate each other in my experience

[Anonymous No.1763239]

>>1763233
>filename

[Anonymous No.1763244]

>>1761782
It's also full of women who want to be doctors, realize they can't, then take out that frustration on others.

[Anonymous No.1763272]

>>1763236
That sounds like an issue caused by the people doing the nursing, not the career itself

[Anonymous No.1763304]

>>1759695
Career builders use it. Boomers bitch about it.

OSB production surpassed plywood production 20 years ago because it's an identical product for half the price.

That's literally all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.1763306]

>>1760151
Roof sheeting has three factors:

1. Rafter spacing
2. Sheeting thickness
3. Use of plywood clips

1/2 can be used for roof sheeting if the other two variables are controlled. He fell through bc his rafter were too far apart for 1/2 or he didn't use as many clips as he was suppoSed to.

[Anonymous No.1763325]

>>1763304
>Career builders use it.
all the reason we need to not use it

[Anonymous No.1763326]

>>1759730
The purpose of drywall is to suppress flames, good luck with your house fire

[Anonymous No.1763349]

>>1763326
Fire retardants exist for wood.
Also, only proper drywall protects from fire, the double-layer specially designed for fire. It is proper expensive. 10 mm drywall won't do anything, wood will catch fire, metal frame will buckle, dick will get shorter

[Anonymous No.1763479]

>>1763304
>identical
OSB has many more points of delamination than plywood.

[Anonymous No.1763662]

>>1759695
I manufacture chemical feed systems. OSB framed onto a pallet is great for building shipping crates

[Anonymous No.1763677]

I think it's pretty great for making cheap square things like sheds and coops

[Anonymous No.1763692]

>>1761782
>>1761788
I was a nurse for a few years and finally couldn't take that BS anymore. You get treated like an absolute expense even though you are the backbone of your facility. Corporate would cut staffing and increase our individual workloads, all while our director of nursing claimed we would be hiring more nurses at every meeting. Nurse aids are all doped up junkheads, and the families mostly are insufferable assholes who expect us to work miracles on their half-dead grandparents. Every patient is morbidly obese/diabetic/COPD in the USA so every room you go in requires the use of a heavy lift, a glucose check/insulin, and a breathing treatment at minimum. Went to trade school and have never felt more alive.

[Anonymous No.1763701]

>>1763662
Thanks for this

[Anonymous No.1763703]

>>1763692
Burgerbro here, whats happened to all us skinnyfat types?
Do you not see us because we arent diabetic, morbidly obese homosexuals?

[Anonymous No.1763734]

>>1763703
I spent most of my time with the obese, diabetic, COPD individuals because they were so debilitated. It's sad because the slimmer/fitter residents have needs as well, even if it's just having someone to have a short chat with in the morning, but I just didn't have the time due to the fatties. Take care of yourselves, bros. Not only is obesity a huge burden on your body, it is also an eventual burden on your caretaker.

[Anonymous No.1763755]

>>1763692
You run into similar situations where you get taken for granted and are expected to make miracles out of shoestring budgets by management in the trades. As an electrician I have to deal with "doped up junkheads" too, either copper thieves or know-it-all boomer cokeheads.

Still doesn't give you femboy+whorebag nurses an excuse to shit all over everyone because you had it hard at work.

[Anonymous No.1763911]

>>1759695
Best thing for your back.

[Anonymous No.1763945]

>>1761199
>house that needs at least $10-15k in electrical work
No it doesn’t need any of that. Electrical upgrades aren’t required.

[Anonymous No.1764098]

>>1763755
This is funny because I went to trade school for electric technology and work for a commercial contractor. This type of work is a mental cakewalk compared to nursing. It is more physical but that's nothing. I'll vent about nursing online as much as I want, fag.

[Anonymous No.1764147]

People keep saying uts tronger but thats complete malarchy in my experience houses with the same joist spacing and thickness subfllors will have waves in the floor if they use osb subfloor instead of plywood over time

[Anonymous No.1764148]

>>1760151
>dieded

[Anonymous No.1764151]

>>1760778
Bong here, I saw some osb I-Beams on a lorry last year. It's used more than it should be and more than you think it is.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1764472]

>>1759695
>Can anyone tell me what this is good?

for maintaing amerimutt economy

>build house from OSB
>clap.mp3
>house collapses from moisture after 10 years
>need to build it again
>need to employ more workers
>build house from OSB
>drain resources in the neverending circles
>everyone is employed
>clap.mp3
>>1763233
>I built a tiny cabin with it

that is not OSB, looks like HDF so even worse. you outdid yourself, congrats!

[Anonymous No.1764549]

>>1760902

Subfloors, too. I used it for that purpose in the attic and I'm going to use it on the first floor as well. Also, I live in an area infested with woodborers and they'll eat solid wood like candy. OSB they don't like.

[Anonymous No.1764556]

>>1764472
This is your sexual fetish, isn't it?
You just wait for an OSB related thread then jizz yourself into euphoria as you trash talk 'Murrica like a typical europoor.

[Anonymous No.1764575]

>>1760291
Nice

[Anonymous No.1764841]

>>1763233
>fiberboard
>no ventilation
>filename
HmmmMMmmMmmm

[Anonymous No.1764844]

>>1761788
No anon, those jobs are not the same type of stress nor remotely as stressful. Seeing people sick and hurt 24/7 is monumentally stressful on people. Nurses are around that the entire time they are at work. Firefighters and linemen are not around that or only around it for a portion of the time, respectively. There are also a ton of other stress factors that nurses have that firefighters and linemen don't have. Those two jobs are actually full of people who are quite a bit more chill than nurses.

[Anonymous No.1764845]

>>1763233
>micro window
Projection booth for your open air theater, anon?

>particle board

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1764846]

>>1764556
>You just wait for an OSB related thread then jizz yourself into euphoria as you trash talk 'Murrica like a typical europoor.

cmon man, its just a bit of friendly banter, nothing serious.

[Anonymous No.1764848]

>>1760205
>Must have been really shitty quality then.
Anon, there is no "good" quality OSB.

[Anonymous No.1764851]

>>1764556
Anon, he is fully within his rights to be this based against shitty contractor construction products such as OSB and plywood. If I had my way, all housing would be stone masonry, stained glass, lathe & plaster, and slate roofing. *stares over at the neighbor's 4-story McMansion with fake brick facade while sipping morning coffee*

[Anonymous No.1764854]

>>1764549
Definitely. Honestly the stuff gets too much hate. Mostly because it's being used badly. It has its applications, and in those it beats out plywood handily.

[Anonymous No.1764864]

>>1764854
Not true in the slightest on all accounts.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1764883]

>>1764854
>It has its applications,

heh, well, kind of true

>and in those it beats out plywood handily.

not in a million years!

>>1764851
is that a Georgian period mansion?

[Anonymous No.1764898]

>>1764851
>lathe & plaster

fuck you i live in a house thats lathe & plaster
nothing is fucking flat or square and putting anything up on the walls is a pain in the dick

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1764904]

>>1764898
>nothing is fucking flat or square and putting anything up on the walls is a pain in the dick

and? what is the big problem about that? Are you GAY by any chance to be so bothered about it?

[Anonymous No.1764933]

>>1764898
>nothing is fucking flat or square
Blame the builders for being retards.

>putting anything up on the walls is a pain in the dick
I'm not sure how you can fuck up something so simple.

[Anonymous No.1764944]

>>1760205
>I would never use these in places where they could come into contact with water though there are classes which are approved for that.
if we're talking about residential properties, from my perspective I assume 90% of "places" are going to "come into contact with water" in their lifespan eventually.

[Anonymous No.1764980]

>>1764472
>that is not OSB, looks like HDF so even worse. you outdid yourself, congrats!
I lied a little, it's FSB, specs said its a little more waterproof, turned out specs lied.
>>1764845
I'll be honest, I fucking suck at cutting glass. And i tried, I tried hard. I made more windows since pic was taken, but all ware adjusted to glass I had.

>>1764841
Ventilation wise, I wasn't a fool. Take a closer look.

[Anonymous No.1764993]

>>1764980
>I'll be honest, I fucking suck at cutting glass. And i tried, I tried hard. I made more windows since pic was taken, but all ware adjusted to glass I had.
Back in the day, large panes of glass were expensive. So, people used multiple smaller panes of glass to make larger windows. It just requires a modicum of wood working skill.

[Anonymous No.1765008]

>>1764993
Or just out right impossible.

[Anonymous No.1765009]

>>1764844
Wrong and wrong. You simply want to justify your “IM A NURSE AND I SAVE THE WORLD ON A DAILY *CLAP* FUCKING *CLAP* BASIS. I DEMAND RESPECT AND THE ENTITLEMENT TO SHIT ALL OVER ANYONE I WANT” victim complex that you use to justify being a shitty person.

Your job can be automated and outsourced to robots overnight. Not so much with firefighters and linemen.

[Anonymous No.1765013]

>>1764098
>m-muh mental strain!!!
I sincerely doubt you do anything remotely related to electrical tradework, you pozzed up little femboy. Go back to wiping geriatric asses and filing prescriptions for Tylenol when you’re not hiding out at the nurses station texting randos for dick, you waste of space.

[Anonymous No.1765014]

>>1764993
glaziers earn a good living, the most basic bit of which would be glazing-and-painting panes on older homes. it's a whole trade of itself.

[Anonymous No.1765015]

>>1765009
It is correct and you are incorrect. I'm not even a nurse, it is just common logic. Why are you completely spazzing out about it?

[Anonymous No.1765017]

>>1765014
>glaziers earn a good living, the most basic bit of which would be glazing-and-painting panes on older homes. it's a whole trade of itself.
Where is that? US? Here it's a trade thats almost completly dead.

[Anonymous No.1765022]

>>1765017
I don't know some older person told me that once, I don't go to church, I don't know any well-paid glaziers but I also don't know nearly any people at all. a lot of the people I've known are healthcare workers but other ones make their living doing stuff you wouldn't necessarily first think of, machining and metalworking are big in this region.

[Anonymous No.1765023]

>>1765017
>Where is that? US? Here it's a trade thats almost completly dead.
Here in the USA, if you're good and can get in with the guys that do Historic Home and Building Restoration type work, true glaziers that can build a whole new window that matches a 200 year old window can basically set their own price and make serious bank.

[Anonymous No.1765072]

>>1765008
BUTZENGLASS

[Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1765090]

>>1765023
There are some of those businesses that surprisingly need people. Piano tuner and shit, it might not be the busiest and most constant trade, but there are always people who will need you and you can charge a good amount since nobody is carrying on the legacy.

I saw pic related a couple weeks ago, I’m 90% sure it was an FBI van, but on the off chance it was actually a clock repair guy, I bet he charges a lot.

[Anonymous No.1765288]

>>1765090
Wtf, is that a powah generator on a stick? To isolate from noise & vibration?

[Anonymous No.1765314]

>>1765090
I highly doubt that's a work van. Looks more like a 'stealth' van that someone lives in. It has a TV antenna and a satellite antenna. As well as 2 air vents and an air conditioner, not to mention the generator sitting off the back there. Website looks fake as well considering there are two websites of different URL's that look slightly different with the exact same information.

[Anonymous No.1765317]

>>1759792
It sucks as an untreated bench top, the idiot before me built a work bench with it and it was nasty, splintery and soaked up every fluid. I can only imagine he figured it was cheap to replace. First thing I did at house was put some 3/4 cabinet grade ply in instead, which lasted me 10 years and I still have the pieces after taking out the built in.

[Anonymous No.1765318]

>>1765288
It's to power the microwave so the agents don't starve, and also the surveilance equipment.

[Anonymous No.1765321]

>>1760646
That's why houses never burn down.

[Anonymous No.1765322]

>>1760874
>It doesn't matter the income level, or how good or bad someone is on paper.
>People of all classes are shit.
Fucking this. Renters are fucking disgusting sub human pieces of shit, even in an upscale 4 bedroom suburb rental. Never again.

[Anonymous No.1765323]

>>1761199
>if it makes sense to reno a house then sell it in 3-5 years after renting
Affects capital gains tax in America

[Anonymous No.1765366]

>>1765090
Lmao holy shit, that is definitely a government van.

[Anonymous No.1765865]

>>1765090
>>1765314
>>1765366
To memorable for a surveillance van. Bepis can drive over to his place at Belara lakes apartments and show him is collection of bass worms he never uses.

[Anonymous No.1766152]

>>1764846
Amerimutts can't into banter.

[Anonymous No.1766156]

>>1765321
>living quarters never burn down
Explain the apartment suits in the World Trade Center Towers in New York New York on September 11th 2001 then.

[Anonymous No.1766157]

>>1765015
>I’m not even a nurse
Then why are you seethingly making such an effort to defend their shitty behavior and the lies they perpetuate to justify it

[Anonymous No.1766159]

>>1766157
Maybe hes seething because you sounded mean to him?

[Anonymous No.1766163]

>>1766157
You're the one seething, Anon. Go ask the nurse for a chill pill and a lie down.

[Anonymous No.1766165]

>be me, /pol/fag browsing /diy/
>see shed thread
>start my own thread about osb
>ask what its good for
>fuckingbitchnursefuckerseethharder.gif
How did it come to this, /diy/? Did I do something wrong? I just wanted to chit-chat about building materials like OSB and their respective applications.

[Anonymous No.1766171]

>>1766165
>another thinly veiled /pol/thread

[Anonymous No.1766173]

>>1766171
We're everywhere, always. I can even say with confidence that you'll encounter one of us in public or at work often.

[Anonymous No.1766176]

>>1766173
Lol, you're right. I get so many (You)s from this /pol/fag at work. It's great seeing him fume when I ask for sources for his latest bullshit conspiracy theory, and then calmly say that "No, Hannity isn't a source, dumbfuck".

[Anonymous No.1766234]

>>1760151
lol

[Anonymous No.1766237]

>>1765317
>It sucks as an untreated bench top, the idiot before me built a work bench with it and it was nasty, splintery and soaked up every fluid.
yeah no kidding, which is why I explicitly said I put hardboard on tip

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1766357]

>>1766165
>>start my own thread about osb

surely you ment to write (((OSB))). Diy has its parenthesis as does pol.

[Anonymous No.1766418]

>>1760903
Go ER nurse or bust. Humans aren't designed to work jobs where you do practically nothing. Add in the fact that they're surrounded and cleaning up after the mentally and physically ill.

[Anonymous No.1766419]

>>1764933
Hey, maybe he's never googled "predrill." Be considerate. Not everyone can afford expensive anchoring systems like pic.

[Anonymous No.1766568]

>>1766237
>hardwood work bench
Maybe if you're doing cabinetry or other "clean" work. If you're actually doing something dirty, Just plain plywood is best because you can drill into it wherever and just zip out a couple screws and slap on a new piece when it gets raggedy.

[Anonymous No.1766571]

>>1764933
Confirmed for never hanging a picture on a plaster wall, and probably for not even knowing anything about a gray coat or a white coat, or what plaster really is.

[Anonymous No.1768121]

>>1766571
would structolite be a sufficient gray coat
is gypsum-mud whitecoat

[Anonymous No.1768178]

>>1759738
>but not a nail base for siding
I hear if you get it thick enough (like an inch thick) you can start nailing stuff onto it

[Anonymous No.1768216]

>>1766159
>>1766163
Typical estrogenated kalemales who work in the medical field

[Anonymous No.1768300]

>>1759695
it's fine for temp projects and shit, but don't expect anything built with it to last especially if it's outside

[Anonymous No.1768323]

>>1764151
Roy Batty here, I saw some osb I-Beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate last year.

[Anonymous No.1768345]

>>1768300
I made external attic door with osb, for a shed. Over 10 years ago. It's grey & ugly & chips off, but still standing. So, you're wrong, friend.

[Anonymous No.1768346]

>>1768178
would thinner, up to code plywood not be cheaper at that point?

[MrCrummy No.1768353]

>>1760205
This, it has uses and if you hate it you are ignorant.

[Anonymous No.1768384]

>>1760205
in my experience, it is not installed in two layers. do you have links or sources about that?

[Anonymous No.1768392]

>>1768384
Not that guy, but I've done the 2 layer OSB trick when we were using wood open-span engineered floor joists.

It does make a floor very solid feeling.

I was in another house being built by a "National Home Builder" that starts with an "R", they were doing similar open-span engineered joists, but had them on 24" center and single layer OSB subfloor... holy hell, the floors felt like a trampoline. A little jump up and down, felt like the whole house was shaking.

Sadly I've seen worse.

[Anonymous No.1768395]

>>1763304
>identical product for half the price.

Have you looked at the prices for 4by8 sheets of ply versus osb? Because the price point difference is minor, about $2 for 1/2 inch sheets, $4 for 3/4 inch sheets. At their respective price points that's about 25%. If you're doing small DIY projects, that's negligable. If you're doing a project with 100 sheets, that's a savings of maybe $400, on a project that's probably well over $100,000. That's less than 1/2 of 1%. The only people who use OSB are builders looking to shave costs at every possible turn and cut evey possible corner because shit doesn't get built by the guy that does the best work; it gets built by the guy that bids the project the lowest.

I've been in the business of restoring and remodelling homes for 25 years now. OSB is shit. It was shit the day it was first conceived of. It will be shit until the very last fragment of it is obliterated by the fury of a 1000 exploding suns. It doesn't hold a screw or a nail worth a shit. It fragments into shrapnel on impact (this is important in tornadoe prone zones). It is the best source of splinters in the universe. It deflects far more than plywood; I don't give a shit what the manufacturers say my experience tells me different. Glue doesn't usually bond to it worth a shit, and even if it does then it's only the top chips and you can still peel the sheet off whatever it's glued to because it's just a matter of tearing the sheet apart. It is quickly destroyed by water. It burns more quickly than plywood. Engineered joists that use it are a fucking joke. In almost all ways it is terrible.

[Anonymous No.1768413]

>>1768395

So what if plywood is better. It's also 3 times more expensive where I live (Poland).
From my personal experience, thin plywood that I have plenty of is much less water resistant than any OSB, one rain will fuck it up, while on some of my OSB shit has been ok for years despite being outdoors. Never used thick waterproof ones though.

I like this tool and I'll keep using it. I even used it when I was remodeling my bathroom, bought thick ass OSB board to cover the pipes, and put tiles, lamp, mirror & sink on it. 8 years and still holds.

Maybe it's not good for remodeling old homes, but Im not remodeling old homes so chill your sperging.

[Anonymous No.1768478]

>>1768395
ok boomer im sure your running lumber for your floor system, a whole fucking tree instead of lvls, plywood rimboards and sheathing. oh wait your not cause you just "remodel" and "restore" shit holes for landlords you fucking clown.

[Anonymous No.1768479]

Polak here.

Are large plywood boards really often used for construction in USA?
I hardly ever see those here, we mostly stick to thin ones for some minor shit.

[Anonymous No.1768483]

>>1768479
'Murrican here.
The standard here is 4 foot by 8 foot (122 cm by 244cm) panels, that's drywall, OBS, ply, and everything inbetween.
We use 3/4" (19mm) panels for subfloor, and ideally for roof sheathing(though some cheap asshats used 1/2"), basically anywhere the panel has to take a deflection load.
1/2" (13mm) is used for shear sidewall sheathing that siding is then applied over.

[Anonymous No.1768488]

>>1768483
>(122 cm by 244cm)
Standard here is 125x250 so pretty similar.

[Anonymous No.1768492]

>>1768483
Forgot - what about plywood slabs popularity?

[Anonymous No.1768495]

>>1768492
For...?
Plywood is a good material, slightly more expensive than OSB, good deflection and shear resistance, it's at every home store and lumber yard, so I guess it's personal choice.

Hells bells, I know of a guy that still uses individual wide pine planks for subfloor and sheathing, that's a material and technique that fell out of use in the 1940's... so that's his professional choice.

So I wouldn't say any one thing is more popular, just depends on someones choice.
Because FREEDOM, FUCK YEAH.

[Anonymous No.1768497]

>>1768495
For anything. I never saw one used in construction. Ever.

I keep in mind that wooden houses didn't kick in in PL.
And maybe we fucking love OSB because it's relatively new to us.

[Anonymous No.1768556]

Do Americans really use this for structural walls

[Anonymous No.1768654]

>>1768478
And what does this have to do with the price of beans in China? What does anything you've just said have to do with refuting the fact that OSB is shit? Right. It's got nothing to do with it. You're just trying to attack me personally because you're an assblasted OSBelieber.

I've worked in hundreds of homes, owned by every class of American from the dirt poor to folks who were named Rockefeller. I've built brand new houses and given TLC to homes that were standing at the start of the industrial revolution. When I do a project, I do it once, I do it right, and the HO will never have to worry about it again. I have subbed for a landlord here and there. l hated it because they don't give a shit about "right" and "lasting". They want it cheap, quick, and the bare minimum that will pass an inspection. But you don't get to be too choosy when work is thin and you've got bills to pay.

I don't have children, and I'm not going to. The only thing that's going to outlast me or be considered any sort of legacy is my work. So yeah, I take it seriously. So you can fuck right the fuck off ya microcephallic waste of chemicals in solution.

[Anonymous No.1768964]

>>1768654
You bitch about OSB believers but honestly, you yourself sound like some assblasted plywood acolyte.

It's great that you're a perfectionist but I think you're undermining OSB for no reason. It's a great material for some uses. And it is more eco.

>I've worked in hundreds of homes, owned by every class of American from the dirt poor to folks who were named Rockefeller.

Reminds me of a thread a while ago where there was this giant mansion on a hill being built, in Hollywood I think, must have cost a fortune...

And it was all wooden framework and OSB slabs, later to be cowered with plywood and whatnot so nobody would know, I assume.

Jews gona jew.

[Anonymous No.1769240]

>>1768964
>Reminds me of a thread a while ago where there was this giant mansion on a hill being built, in Hollywood I think, must have cost a fortune...

this is that building, at least they jew their own!

[Anonymous No.1769408]

>>1768964
>I think you're undermining OSB for no reason.

No. I'm not "undermining" OSB.
I'm telling you it's shit; has been shit; will always be shit.
The only good use I've heard for it is the landlord that says he puts it behind his sheetrock in his rentals. Literally the _only_ good use I've heard for it. In every other application I've seen, it's shit. Period. There is no good reason to use it when you can use a superior material at a price that is negligable in difference when taken as part of the project whole.

It isn't that I love plywood. It's that OSB is inferior and I'm sick of seeing idiots say it's just the same. It isn't. Period.

It's similar to (but obviously not the same as) E-85 versus Gasoline. There's literally no good reason for me to fill up on E-85, despite driving a vehicle that can use it. I lose 16% fuel efficiency when running E-85. Which means it needs to be at least 16% cheaper for me to break even on $/mile. Typically in my area E-85 is 10-15% cheaper. So why on Earth would I use it? It's an inferior product. But it's sold like it's just as good as gasoline. It isn't. Period.

[Anonymous No.1769827]

>>1768964
>And it is more eco.

its not, its full of glue which makes the entire wood material in it unsafe to be burnt and used for warmth. same goes for HDF, MDF and LDF, none of them contribute to environment in the long run.

[Anonymous No.1769925]

>>1768323
All those moments will be lost in time, like osb in rain.

[Anonymous No.1769933]

>>1769827
burning construction supplies is economical?

[Anonymous No.1769965]

>>1760291
You sound like the anon that listed ways to rent property to niggers. I can't remember what else you suggested...central floor drain in bathroom...reinforced front door with glass window they could break when they look themselves out...

[Anonymous No.1770195]

>>1769408
> neglible price difference between OSB and plywood

I don't know how prices look in the US and A, but here in ol' Europe (Germany) you can get 22mm OSB, with tongue and groove for about EUR 10/square meeter. Plywood is at least EUR 20/square meter for comparable thickness (21mm). And plywood is usually not available in tongue and groove, so if you want to use it for a subfloor you'll either need expensive router bits to cut that and spend a lot of time on it or lay a subfloor on non-connected, individual panels. That means a lot more nails/screws, more work to drive them in and a less stable subfloor. With all of these things factored in, you've got a pretty compelling case for OSB subfloors, at least over here.

[Anonymous No.1770518]

>>1759695
It's to particle board what particle board is to timber.

[Anonymous No.1770547]

>>1769925
lmao

[Anonymous No.1770580]

>>1765013
Nice projecting.

[Anonymous No.1770603]

>>1769925
>All those moments will be lost in time, like osb in rain.
10/10
Though I will keep arguing that OSB is somewhat water resistant, from my experience.

>>1770195
>I don't know how prices look in the US and A, but here in ol' Europe (Germany)
Same here, in ol' Europe (Poland).
I think this guy is just some frustrated troll, lets ignore him.

On a side note, anyone ever worked with large, thick plywood plates?
Like, 18mm thick at least, 1250x2500 in size?

[Anonymous No.1770616]

>>1770195
Here in the Netherlands I literally laid a tongue & groove 18mm plywood underfloor 6 months ago. €15 per. sq. m.

Admittedly OSB may have been cheaper, but it can be done in ply.

[Anonymous No.1770632]

>>1770603
I have some next to me. In glorious american units.
They make great work bench tops.

[Anonymous No.1770868]

>>1770603
>>1770195
Learn to read. The price in the US was already pointed out here. >>1768395
But wait, that would require some basic math on your part, wouldn't it?
Here, have it on a spoon.
1/2inch sheet of sheething grade plywood $8
1/2inch sheet of sheething grade OSB $6
3/4inch sheet of sheething grade plywood $20
3/4inch sheet of sheething grade OSB $16

[Anonymous No.1771106]

>>1770868
What dimentions.

[Anonymous No.1771110]

Osb

[Anonymous No.1771780]

>>1759695
I work in lumber distribution in the largest building market in the US. OSB has about 95% marketshare over plywood currently and it's purely because of cost.

Plywood has made a recent resurgence with the prevalence of cities and states requiring fire retardant wood. You can't fire treat OSB.

[Anonymous No.1771782]

>>1760917
Also it's pretty cool that you can make something as strong as plywood using downfall and saplings instead of harvesting older trees to get full length plywood veneers.

OSB and engineered wood propducts in general (LVL, LSL etc) are the future.

[Anonymous No.1771784]

>>1761780
OSB has been on a tear the last few weeks. The plywood producers won't stay cheap for long and are already raising their prices accordingly.

[Anonymous No.1771912]

>>1771782
>engineered wood
>wood
More like industrial adhesives are the future

[Anonymous No.1772035]

>>1760932
Bingo

[Anonymous No.1772041]

>>1760903
>>1760874
>>1760905
>

[Anonymous No.1772043]

>>1768413
Anon. How the hell do you speak English like American?

Impressed/

[Anonymous No.1772045]

>>1760291
OhYEA!!!!!

[Anonymous No.1772068]

I make my own sheets of trash board, using whatever I can find around, lighting it on fire, and then pissing on it, after that I pour random adhesives I get that are rejected by chemical plants and then sell it. I've use everything from ramen, actual garbage, Hair, dirt, and other stuff I have no idea what it might be. Serious inquiries only

[Anonymous No.1772093]

>>1759695
Really cheap, weight bearing material if you get it in 3/4s or more.

[Anonymous No.1772280]

>>1759738
Siding should be nailed into studs anyway.

[Anonymous No.1772300]

>>1763306
This guy knows a thing or two, I agree with it all, besides the fact I would always reccomend 3/4. But it's fine to use half in the right circumstance. Most mobile homes are have but that doesn't make it sound much better does it? Still it's fine with rafters are placed right and not a long enough span to bend and bow

[Anonymous No.1772600]

>>1771912
I wonder if instead of using scrap wood as the filler we could use recycled plastic....

[Anonymous No.1772604]

Probably the first legit OSB question ever posted.

I have steel building, I want to dry wall the inside, but I'd like to use plywood instead so I can hang shit wherever I want, OSB is way cheaper. It will be inside an air conditioned shop. How well does OSB hold screws for hanging shelves and shit. Obviously heavy AF items I would find a stud.

[Anonymous No.1772957]

>>1772604
On this >>1770603 hang, apart from tiles, lamp, mirror, sink, and small closet. 8 years or so in, and everything is still fine.
Sure, OSB isn't as strong as plywood, and screws probably don't hold as strong, but I'm sure you'll be fine if you reinforce shelves with support bracket.

Actually, In my cabin, I made a small desk by installing countertop on one of the walls (18mm OSB) and reinforcing them with pic related.
I don't sit on it, but I can rest my entire weight on it and it won't move.

[Anonymous No.1773770]

>>1760151

They probably put a seam between rafters. I've seen that shit on multiple sites recently.

[Anonymous No.1773777]

>>1765090

>"House Calls"
>"And yes we're local"

gotta give them credit for the sense of humor

[Anonymous No.1773780]

>>1772604
>How well does OSB hold screws for hanging shelves and shit.

Poorly.

[Anonymous No.1773781]

>>1766173
>you'll encounter one of us in public or at work often.

I was in the room when one of you dropped your spaghetti on a quarterly conference call with the Board of Directors, entire C-Suite, and local Engineering VP at my work.

He got within one syllable of both a Hard-R ending and Hard-K ending multiple times during the 'tism attack. I can't tell you how hard i was rooting for it to happen so he could finally get canned.

[Anonymous No.1773812]

>>1766171
What do we do about the OSB question?

[Anonymous No.1773831]

>>1760905

[Anonymous No.1774808]

>>1765090
That thing got a fucking marine radardome and uhf antenna on top.

[Anonymous No.1774847]

>>1773831
>I RECENTLY TRANSFERRED FROM GAMEFAQS
things I haven't thought about in so long. how influential in my young developing mind. Good Lord.

[Anonymous No.1774849]

>>1760994
in building maintenance and really unless the plan is for the property to be 'someone else's problem' in 5 years, I just assume any part of a building is gonna see moisture from unforseeable circumstances at one point or another.

[Anonymous No.1774894]

>>1760780

[Anonymous No.1776061]

I think large plywood slobs are only popular in USA.

[Anonymous No.1776265]

>>1760646
>Sealed room
WOODEN DOORS
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[Anonymous No.1776394]

>>1759695
honestly, not good for anything except for being cheap

[Anonymous No.1776574]

>>1776394
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.1776804]

it does help to build a cheap floor on a non livable area to stock thing

[Anonymous No.1776815]

>>1759695
I used it behind drywall so I can screw things up wherever I want to. A bit more expensive, sure...but I definitely think it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.1776822]

>>1773831
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.1776835]

>>1770868
this is a lie, I go buy this shit from home depot every day and I can tell you it's about $16 for a 4x8 sheet of 1/2'' osb and about $40 for the same sheet of plywood

[Anonymous No.1777173]

>>1776835
>home depot
Kek. Youre being robbed by the middleman, breh.

[Anonymous No.1777197]

>>1777173
god dammit your guys are both so fucking wrong.

[Anonymous No.1777214]

>>1776061
>large slobs
>USA
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.1777232]

>>1777173
Yeah let me just drive to the lumber yard an hour away to go grab a couple sheets of osb and some 8ft 2x4

[Anonymous No.1777386]

>>1777232
Penis lover's salad

[Anonymous No.1777420]

Cheap. Good for light duty projects. Retards just don't know its limits or try to con people because it will hold up at first long enough to get their sheckles and get the hell out of dodge.

[Anonymous No.1777437]

>>1777214
Slabs?

[Anonymous No.1777752]

>>1777232
>only an hour
Fucking coasties GTFO

[Anonymous No.1778072]

>>1759695
I want to build a cheap shelf and of course OSB came in mind.
Would it be possible to slap wood veneer on it?
What would be another, maybe better, but equally cheap alternative?

[Anonymous No.1778901]

>>1778072
>Would it be possible to slap wood veneer on it?
Yes
>What would be another, maybe better, but equally cheap alternative?
Ikea

[Anonymous No.1780018]

OSB are awsome, only frustrated childless retards would hate them.
Oh wait.

[Anonymous No.1780033]

>>1763349
Sorry bro, I don't want my walls to be retarded, your sister is enough

[Anonymous No.1780077]

>>1759695
Jews garbage for goyim, same as drywall.

[Anonymous No.1780178]

>>1774808
Repairing clocks aint easy son

[Anonymous No.1780281]

>>1760778
Its also often used as subfloor and to reinforce drywall here in germany.
Is a cheap material thats pretty bend-resistant, why wouldnt we use it?

[Anonymous No.1780289]

For its intended uses it can be okay. Any moisture and of course it turns to actual dog shit.

[Anonymous No.1780343]

>>1780077
Cheap and jew don't mix, son.

[Anonymous No.1781241]

OSB rules.

[Anonymous No.1782498]

Only good at fast prototyping and small builds that wont be lasting long. Retards that use it as an actual building material meant to last should have an intelligence evaluation and not be alowed to take card of children as they have the same shortsightedness of a nigger.

[Anonymous No.1783048]

>>1782498
Whats wrong with using it like here: >>1770603

[Anonymous No.1784434]

>>1759730
Use it in attics to walk on and not step through drywall.

[Anonymous No.1785224]

>>1764472
>build house out of masonry
>muh culture
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/strong-earthquake-rocks-croatia-causing-widespread-panic-damage-capital-n1165901
>psh...nothin personnel

[Anonymous No.1785246]

>>1759695
It's shit. As soon as it gets wet it's useless and there is literally no good use for it

[Anonymous No.1785530]

Cheap as fuck and better than ply (unless you get marine ply, which is $$$$$). Regular ply deteriorates as fast or faster in any water/weather contact.

I use OSB for shed/outbuilding flooring (screw directly to base frame, then ensure exterior cladding comes right down over those edges - absolutely fine. Years of walking on and no deterioration.

Same goes for a roof surface before putting felt down or whatever.

It's mostly people being snobby about it. It's extremely popular and economical in lots of situations. You wouldn't build a boat out of it but that's not what it's for.

[Anonymous No.1785539]

>>1765009
Projecting