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Your enslavement to multiple manufacturers batteries are over.

These are now being made. They come in different flavors. this one will adapt a makita battery to anything that runs on 18 to 21 volts.

they also make adapters that directly convert from one major manufacturer to another.

But these allow you to convert from one brand to anything. I recently used one to allow me to use my makita batteries on a portable bandsaw that is not well know. I also used on with anderson power pole connectors to allow me to power anything I want.

>> No.1733155

>>1733153
>plastic adapter with two test leads
Why not just make adapters that fit your tools?
Also open the pack so I can swap 18650s to make my own or replace.

>> No.1733161
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1733161

>>1733155
well, if you read my post, they do. BUT if there is a brand that no one has made an adapter for then you can make your own.

>> No.1733162

>>1733153
So it hangs off my tools?

Skookum as frig

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>>1733161

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>>1733153
I havent seen anyone use these in my field though, how can i trust it

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>>1733162
jesus christ be a little more creative, you can attach it to an old battery shell and make an adapter.

>> No.1733168

>>1733165
they recently started making them, 3d printer guys have been making stuff like this for a while now. can you trust them? *shrug* the one I made works fine.

>> No.1733169

>>1733155
also the wires are 12AWG

I bought 2 one was marked 12AWG the other was not marked but measured to 8AWG.

>> No.1733171

>>1733162
the device has a flat top, it can be opened and there is space inside for a thin head bolt or screw about 3 or 4mm. you attach the top to the bottom of an old battery shell then wire the wires to the other shell contacts. voila!

>> No.1733172

>>1733153
*sets on fire*

>> No.1733178

>>1733172
this is one of the reasons this is such a shit board. people post something that's very useful and is a pretty good idea, and they tell people about it and someone ALWAYS drops in and shits all over it.

I did a video on this device but have not released it yet on youtube and I don't dare post it here because instead of people going "oh cool thanks for showing us that:" all you get is "your shilling your channel" then proceed to rip you a new one about silly pointless stuff they don't like about the video.

it's not going to just burst in to flames anymore than anything else would. FUCK!

>> No.1733187

>>1733153
How much power are you losing through those wires at full power?

Also some brands have more than just the + and GND pins, I don’t think DeWalt tools will run unless they detect the temp sensor in the battery pack.

>> No.1733189

>>1733178
The reason this is such a shit board is that we have retards like you, that take a 0 effort funpost and write three paragraphs about how mad they are that someone dared to poke fun at their gay shilling thread.

>> No.1733191

>>1733187
the temp sensor is used only by the battery charger.

>> No.1733192

>>1733189
ASS

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>>1733153
Cool idea, especially if you convert to 18650s.
That said, I gave up cordless long ago.

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1733200

>>1733191
On which tools? I think DeWalt has a temp sensor on the tools, or at least on the high demand tools. I remember it from the Youtube vid of the guy trying to run a Hercules battery on a DeWalt tool, and it ended up being the lack of a temp reading, so the light on the DeWalt drill would turn on, but no motor until he rigged it to fake a temp reading.

Also when researching that, some people were saying their DeWalt flashlight and little stuff would work with the Hercules tool after filing down the little plastic anti-compatibility bit, but it wouldn’t run heavier duty tools like their saws, so I think they leave out the extra temp reading pin on the low demand stuff.

>> No.1733201

>>1733191
Not true for everything. I have ryobi that don't care, ridgid that turn off when hot, and I think some of the latest gen stuff has DRM in it like inkjet cartridges.

>> No.1733203

>>1733166
Yeah, this is DIY. I'm guessing the "buy this thing" shills don't actually know or understand what it 'DIY' means.

>> No.1733205

>>1733187
This
>>1733198
And this.

Stop being a cuck OP. Do some real testing. Show us the value instead of your gay shilling.

>> No.1733240

Makita's star protection will kick in and brick your battery OP. You should use ryobi, theyre cheap and dumb (almost no protection)

>> No.1733248

>>1733161
I don'T need to make them. I can buy dozens of broken batteries for a tenner and gut them for the shells.

The battle is getting the BMS to play nice with the chargers. I suspect this is part of what causes some normally working batteries to stop.

At the end of the day conveniece is the challenge. Li ion tool batteries aren't $60 anymore. I can do a lot of things with two 5Ah batts. But I'd like to do many more things cheaply & easily with little set up.

>> No.1733263

>>1733198
Based corded chad, fuck brand loyalty.

>> No.1733267

>>1733240
You just add a jumper. Boom.
BMS protection? Who needs this shit, yolo.

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>>1733205
>>1733240
>>1733248
not shilling anything, I don't sell these, just trying to help but AS USUAL

no good dead goes unpunished.

FUCK ALL YOUALL.

>> No.1733378

>>1733240
Go cheaper than that. Get some $20 Bauer packs from HF. Samsung cells but the balancing is all done on the charger.

If you’re going to 3D print some shit though, make a goddamn battery case and drop good cells in it. That corded thing looks like a pain in the ass.

Or go with a tool company with a lineup that has the big tools you want. When it comes to the basic stuff like drills and impact drivers, the rest are all so similar, so you would be dumb to have a Milwaukee Porta-Band and Makita impact driver, just get the red impact too.

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>>1733312

>> No.1733675

>>1733378
yeah you are not getting the point of this. buyfag

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1733729

>>1733153
>not buying flat lipo cells and creating your own 5s2p packs for loads of power

>> No.1733897

>>1733675
>have a battery start on fire in your tool bag and burn down your whole truck
I would be down with universal battery packs like everybody else, but that thin wire with a whole lot of DC amps going through it isn’t the way to go.

Also because of the shit like the DeWalt temp sensors, you would need an adapter for _____ battery to _____ tool. You can’t use a Ryobi battery on your Makita drill and then switch to a DeWalt battery on your Milwaukee sawzall.

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>>1733729
This would be the better option, get your own cells and build a bunch of quality battery banks for like $20 each, print out some tool adapters to go from the homemade battery packs to whatever tool.

>> No.1733929

I said it in another thread but a think i might try adapting my batteries with a cord. Using the shell and connectors, attached to a wire. A long wire that can go around your back to a fanny pack battery pack. Something that can be made out of any chemistry or battery you want and unplug from any tool you want. All you need is the top plate and connections. Built in pack bms does all the work of charging, preventing over and under discharge etc. Remove the proprietary. Ryobi batteries are actually pretty cheap but I'd rather spend 5 bucks fixing a cell than buy a brand new battery pack because one 4 dollar battery went bad or the bms failed.

>> No.1733950

>>1733897
it's 12AWG and can handle 25 amps continuous. for that short of a run could handle 40 amps. most power tools only use 3 to 5 amps no load and 10 to 15 under load.

One of the ones I ordered had 8 gauge wire which can handle 70 amps.

>> No.1733951

>>1733929
congratulations you re-invented Makita's first battery powered tool.

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1733953

>>1733929

>> No.1733955

>>1733897
you're really not getting the point of these devices. It's NOT to use a universal battery pack with your dewalt or makita tools.

Are you ready for this?

It's so you can use your Makita or dewalt batteries to power other devices or tools and cut down on the number of different batteries you need to buy. all the battery protection is in the battery pack. It does not need to be in the adapter.

>> No.1733961

>>1733955
But... are you ready for this?

Many tools will not run if all you do is connect the + and - terminals, there is extra stuff built into those $100 black and yellow packs to make sure you don’t cut off the tab from a $25 HF battery and stick it in the yellow tool.

>> No.1733966

>>1733961
Are you ready for this.

There are ways around this.

>> No.1733968

>>1733953
As long as it works, something like that yeah.

>> No.1733969

>>1733966
Yeah, so like I mentioned before, it will be an adapter that only accepts one brand’s battery and fits one other brand’s tool, and charging is a pain in the ass.

If you have all DeWalt tools and one Makita saw, I guess you could use that goofy contraption with the cord dragging around. But for all that trouble, I would rather get the DeWalt saw. At the very least, make an adapter that holds the battery in the tool like the 20V MAX- 18V XRP adapter, but still- one brand battery to one brand tool, not going to work with 4 different brand tools and the 3 cheapest batteries you could find, you would need a dozen different adapters.

>> No.1733971

>>1733968
>>1733953
I like Anon’s plug-in mower adapter. Put a car battery and a 12VDC-120VAC inverter, it’s pretty badass.

>> No.1734132

>>1733950
>most power tools only use 3 to 5 amps
corded ones, yeah.

5 A * 120v = 600 watts.

600W / 18v = 33 Amps in your 18v cordless equivalent.

>> No.1734446

>>1734132
no the cordless ones also only use 3 to 5 amps no load. How do I know this? I measured the amp draw of all my cordless tools.

>> No.1734448

>>1734446
>no load
That doesn’t mean anything on a saw or drill.

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>>1733961
so far I have not found a tool that will not run from one of these adapters.

The chinese are making adapters to go from almost every major name brand tool to almost every other name brand tool and they all work with no problem.

They are also now making tools that are directly compatible with major name brand batteries.

>> No.1734453
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1734453

>>1734448
yes it does and also under load most tools only draw around 20 amps. stall amp draw is a different thing altogether. either way these adapters can handle them and if you panties are in a not you can always put in your own temperature switch, fuse, or circuit breaker.

>> No.1734479

>>1734446
my car engine is 62 horsepower when idling.

>> No.1734593

>>1734450
So the 2 tools you tried it on work? And you’re suggesting we get some of those knockoff $30 Makita impacts? Why not just buy the cheap ass Chinesium batteries that start on fire the third time you charge them? You can get 3 batteries for each tool brand for like $40.

It’s less of a clusterfuck to use a good tool brand and stick with it, especially if you’re a pro who relies on the tools for work. If you don’t need it to be reliable, go get some Drillmaster and Chicago Electric.

>>1734453
I don’t know about you, but I typically pull the trigger on my impact driver when it’s touching a screw. I don’t really care how fast it spins no-load. See >>1734479

>> No.1734624

>>1733200
all lithiuim ion batteries have a temp sensor these days,

>> No.1734634

>>1734593
well then this is not for you so go away. those that understand the point of this and the value will appreciate it.

>> No.1734637

>>1734624
yes and in most cases they are for the charger.

>> No.1734643

>>1734637
every single one of my cordless tools has a pin devoted to temp sensors.

>> No.1734703

>>1733165
What is all that shit, besides the Sony MP3 player and the Grados?

>> No.1734947

>>1734643
and the battery can be used on other devices no problem since (and I will keep repeating this) that pin is almost always ONLY used by the charger.

It is obvious from the responses in this thread that you guys have NEVER tried to do adapt one battery to another device. It works no problem. It is safe. It is easy. It saves you money.

>> No.1734949

>>1734703
A reverse image search shows it's from an old reddit post about a picture taken on a subway of a guys home made portable audio setup.

>> No.1734951

>>1734703
found another post with a list of what he's got all taped together.
iPhone XS Max £1100

Astell&Kern AK380 DAP £3000

Unknown (DAP?)

Unknown (battery pack?)

Mass Kobo 404 balanced amp £1500

Chord Hugo DAC [left] £1800

Sony WM1Z DAP [right] £2500

Mysphere 3 headphones £3000

Grado PS2000E headphones £2700