Please don't tell me I'm the only one on here that makes chainmail...

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Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:11:57 2011 No.16558 [Reply] [Original]

Please don't tell me I'm the only one on here that makes chainmail...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:13:57 2011 No.16571 I've always wanted to do it, but I never could make anything complicated

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:15:57 2011 No.16577 I make chainmaille... Plenty of people in the SCA do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:15:57 2011 No.16583 My brother in law does it. Any advice on how to get started? Is it a reasonably affordable hobby?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:18:57 2011 No.16599 I made an 8" x 8" sheet then got sick of it. My friend made two whole shirts out of it. Get good gloves or toughen up your plams. Twisting it around the dowel and snipping the individual rings fucks your hands up. Other then that it's easy as hell to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:18:57 2011 No.16602 Lately I've gotten the idea in my head to put a chainmail shirt inside of a blazer. Why or why isn't this a good idea?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:19:57 2011 No.16605 File: 872 KB, 1310x1086, 06102010161.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I make mail. 4 in 1 European with galvanized wire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:19:57 2011 No.16612 File: 361 KB, 2048x1536, 06102010160.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16605

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:20:57 2011 No.16620 File: 319 KB, 2048x1536, 06102010155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16612

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:20:57 2011 No.16621 A buddy of mine does. We're in a Renaissance Faire.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:21:57 2011 No.16624

Weave Tutorials:
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials.shtml
http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/
Garment Tutorials/Patterns/etc:
http://www.bladeturner.com/pattern/hauberk/hauberk.html
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0aGVoYXBweWJhcmJhcmlhb
mhvcmRlbGFuZHN8Z3g6MjA5MTE5NzA0OGI0OWNkMA&pli=1
http://www.arador.com/construction/hauberk6.gif
http://www.chainmail.com/chainmall/patterns/coif/coif.html
http://www.chainmail.com/chainmall/cteach2.htm#KNITTING_The_Basics

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:21:57 2011 No.16628 There has always been periodic /tg/ threads on it, so I'd imagine there's plenty of folks here that do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:21:57 2011 No.16630 File: 517 KB, 2048x1536, 06102010158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16620 Looks like cloth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:23:57 2011 No.16646 >>16624 thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:23:57 2011 No.16647 What size do you guys typically make the rings for this chainmail? I've been thinking about doing this but with tiny rings it is damn hard to impossible and I am not sure how big is too big of rings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:25:57 2011 No.16655 >>16647 Depends on the gauge of the wire. There are some ratios to find online. Look for ring ration on google. theringlord.com should help.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:27:57 2011 No.16675
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>>16647
Don't start with tiny rings, it's really freakin hard.
This pic is a good size to start with.
If you order them from theringlord, 14 or 16 gauge 5/16" rings are pretty good for beginning.
I thought I was all cool when I first started... got teenie rings... Big mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:29:57 2011 No.16681 >>16647 1/4' diameter. 12 gauge galvanized iron. I make my pieces to look badass, not pretty. Plus anytime a chick makes shit out of aluminum she just gets the "well thats cute" comment :/ Plus my hands got buff as fuck :P

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:29:57 2011 No.16685
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I don't have the patience for it.
I did make an awesome jig that uses a crank to turn the wire around a metal dowel.
When I am really lazy I fasten the metal dowel to a drill to turn it.
Then I cut it with a dremel, but I don't have any good blades left now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:34:57 2011 No.16710 File: 703 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20110807_130358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah, I started off with the pretty stuff rather than jumping right into making armor, but I am slowly getting into armor and garments...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:39:57 2011 No.16739 File: 731 KB, 1840x3264, IMAG0145.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Working on scales with leather backing lately. Got a wrist thingy made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:39:57 2011 No.16740 How does it actually work? I had a quick look at the tutorials here >>16624 but they don't seem to dumb it down far enough. I figure it uses rings of some sort that get looped together?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:40:57 2011 No.16746 >>16739 Pretty.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:43:57 2011 No.16762

This goes through the making of rings to in-depth pictures of weaving 4in1:
http://www.noiregarde.org/chainmaille.pdf

Metal types, Wire sizes:
http://www.chainmailbasket.com/making_maille.php

Making and weaving rings to making a garment:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/trevor.barker/farisles/guilds/armour/mail.htm

Some inspiration:
http://www.thomasriley.info/chainmail/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:47:57 2011 No.16778 File: 930 KB, 1840x3264, IMAG0148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been using Anodized Aluminum a lot... it's really shiny. Byzantine 14g 1/4" and 5/16"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:49:57 2011 No.16789 Does anyone know where I can buy pre-made rings? I really want to try this out without too much of a time investment (for now).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:51:57 2011 No.16794 File: 597 KB, 1840x3264, IMAG0143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16789 http://www.theringlord.org Or hobby lobby/joanns/michaels and use one of their coupons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 16:56:57 2011 No.16821 >>16794 Thanks bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:09:57 2011 No.16891 File: 2 KB, 225x196, 3701elex-004-bikinicupdiagram.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bumping with bra/bikini patterns and pictures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:10:57 2011 No.16898 File: 21 KB, 536x349, coverscalesbikini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:13:57 2011 No.16909 File: 87 KB, 800x599, bra2 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:14:57 2011 No.16923 http://www.theringlord.org/forum/ Always helps. People are very nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:15:57 2011 No.16926 File: 924 KB, 2576x1932, hat 005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been playing with chain for a while now, still have never made a shirt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:18:57 2011 No.16935 File: 838 KB, 2576x1932, inlay 012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16926

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:20:57 2011 No.16942 >>16926 >>16935 I am enjoying your posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:24:57 2011 No.16963 >>16926 Fuck you, you're making me start knitting maille again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:25:57 2011 No.16965 File: 884 KB, 3056x2292, 100_1852[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The wrist guard made of leather. Gonna make it again with proper leather, grommets, and rivets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:27:57 2011 No.16971 File: 1008 KB, 2576x1932, inlay 002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16963 And thats the old hat, i have a new one without pictures currently. Also, handflower.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:27:57 2011 No.16974 File: 663 KB, 3056x2292, 100_1853[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really like stainless scales...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:29:57 2011 No.16991 File: 137 KB, 773x1200, gallery_5361_31_267635.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:30:57 2011 No.16998 File: 35 KB, 638x323, gallery_17_24600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:33:57 2011 No.17018 File: 963 KB, 3264x1840, IMAG0139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] more shiny

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:36:57 2011 No.17028 Good god, I want my wife to wear that bikini top in OP's image. I did a bit of googling, but can't find anything like it, except uncolored. Help? I do a lot of DIY projects, but not chain mail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:38:57 2011 No.17045 Anyone got a good tutorial on how to make a diy ring cutting machine?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:39:57 2011 No.17054 >>17028 http://www.etsy.com/shop/UtopiaArmoury?section_id=5994333 Bill makes them. A few other people do too. http://bikepartjewelry.com/index.php/gallery/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:41:57 2011 No.17062 >>17054 http://bikepartjewelry.com/index.php/search-results/?search=1&keywords=bikini&product-list-s earch-core-commerce-products=Search Here they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:41:57 2011 No.17069 anyone willing to share a step by step on how to make a scalemaille pauldron or mantle? I plan to make one as part of a steampunk/clockpunk costume.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:42:57 2011 No.17072 >>17054 >>17062 Motherofgod.png Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:43:57 2011 No.17079 >>17072 You are welcome. If you want to try it out, I posted a few patterns and inspiration throughout the thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:45:57 2011 No.17086 >>17069 https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0aGVoYXBweWJhcmJhcmlhb mhvcmRlbGFuZHN8Z3g6MjA5MTE5NzA0OGI0OWNkMA&pli=1 This is your best bet. Then backing it like... >>16965

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:45:57 2011 No.17088

>>16599
attatch the dowel to a drill. put a board through the dowell with a nail in the board about an inch away from the dowell as a post for guiding the wire.

much easier. also i hope you are using bolt cutters for cutting the links. i could make and cut the links easilly when i was in 6th grade

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:46:57 2011 No.17092 >>17079 Yes, I've got them all. No idea if I'll give it a shot, but I appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:48:57 2011 No.17111 File: 22 KB, 1155x606, bracolored.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17092 This might help you :) I made this based on the first picture. It's a pattern. Will be easier to understand when you start making mail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 17:53:57 2011 No.17135 >>17086 thanks. lots of good tips in there. I'll be making it out of brass and/or bronze as well. Something a little different.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:04:57 2011 No.17191 File: 253 KB, 768x1024, alumscale45seam2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still here to answer more questions...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:06:57 2011 No.17203 >>17191 Any effective way to make scales yourself or is it better just to buy them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:09:57 2011 No.17224 >>17191 Do those scales jingle a lot? It'd be cool to make a wristband out of them, but not so much if it made a lot of noise.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:11:57 2011 No.17234

>>17203
If you can find a punch that can go through steel and buy sheets of metal or go pick some up at the junkyard, maybe.
It would only be worth it if you were able to make a lot of scales to make up for the time and money spent.
You could make custom shapes and sell them in http://www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/forum/18-trading-room/ ?
I'm not too sure, bought mine, but a friend is going to punch out some of their own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:12:57 2011 No.17241 >>17224 if you weave them tight enough they don't jingle much.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:14:57 2011 No.17250

>>17224
if you connect them together with bigger rings and a lot of them as well an anchoring them down to something, you only hear light noise. The arm band I made above only makes nose when I shake my hand.
You could also try dipping the backs into plastidip or gluing on foam if you are looking for no noise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:17:57 2011 No.17277 File: 886 KB, 3264x1840, IMAG0146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of scales, I've just been using standard 4in1 because I have no idea how to weave them any other way...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:21:57 2011 No.17295 File: 1.06 MB, 3056x2292, 100_1856[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Made this this afternoon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:26:57 2011 No.17313 >>16558 For someone just beginning how hard would it be to make that bikini like top?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:26:57 2011 No.17317 i want to make a bikini for a friend but how do i let her measure her tits? what if she gains weight?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:28:57 2011 No.17323 >>17317 ask what bra size she is if beta ask her to strip down and let you measure if you have the balls

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:29:57 2011 No.17331 I can't believe no one else has said this. THAT WORD IS REDUNDANT. "MAILLE" IS THE PROPER TERM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:31:57 2011 No.17348 >Chainmail lol Mail or Maille faggots.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:31:57 2011 No.17349

>>17313
Pretty hard. But, whats nice about chanmail, is that it's easy to take apart and start over.
I've been mailling for close to three years and still think it's going to be hard as fuck...
BY THE BY:
The pattern I posted... >>17111
Is about an A cup, I think. Just add more rows above the band part to make it bigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:33:57 2011 No.17365 >>17348 >>17331 Regardless, someone not too savvy on maille is going to confuse "mail" or "maille" with the post. Chainmail is an easier term for those new to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:39:57 2011 No.17399 File: 37 KB, 531x402, byze ring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] teeny

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 18:40:57 2011 No.17404 File: 52 KB, 400x300, inlay-e1313213711327.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gorgeous

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 19:24:57 2011 No.17704 File: 215 KB, 666x1000, 1317214969376.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] inspiration

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 19:42:57 2011 No.17820 File: 801 KB, 3264x1840, IMAG0155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:05:57 2011 No.17945 File: 1009 KB, 3056x2292, 100_1857[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is what it looks like when I make chainmail

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:10:57 2011 No.17987 Newbie chainmailler here Loving the pieces and tutorials! Will post some of my works at some other point. Found this thread just before bed - hate it when that happens...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:13:57 2011 No.18008 OP you are a faggot no life retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:13:57 2011 No.18013 >>17987 The thread will probably 404 before then. Trying to keep it alive...

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:21:57 2011 No.18088

>>18013
just a quick couple of Q's then op:

first, how long does it take you to make a single piece? Bracelet/shirt/bra etc
and secondly, do you buy your rings pre-cut or cut them yourself? I personnaly buy cut alluminium rings and cut stainless steel myself. Just want to get a idea of how other people work.
Also, do you make any decent money selling jewelery etc?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:23:57 2011 No.18117 I'll bump this thread even though I have no interest in doing anything with it. Chainmail looks cool, yo.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:38:57 2011 No.18238

How would you go about attaching solid pieces onto chainmail like single piece breast/elbow/back guards, I understand these things would usually just be put on separately as an added layer of protection but i'm really interested in making it as a single piece because i'm actually going for a high fantasy armor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:55:57 2011 No.18344 >>18238 Holes, lots of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 20:57:57 2011 No.18348 My sister made wearable chainmail out of soda-caps. It was wicked cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 21:07:57 2011 No.18435 >>18344 is it an option to have a set of leather straps attached to the plate armor and than edges of the straps to be pierced and connect to the mail?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 21:26:57 2011 No.18567 File: 223 KB, 480x640, cm-skirt1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18435 Yes.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 22:47:57 2011 No.19090
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Sorry, guys, I was watching a movie... I did however make a bracelet.
>>18088
It really depends on the piece.
The bracelet I just made took about an hour - not paying full attention to weaving.
The scale and leather piece many posts above took about two hours total.

I have not yet made a bikini, but I hopped onto a friends TRL order to get some Saw Cut Anodized Aluminum in 16 guage 1/4" and will order some EPDM in the same sizes later when I have more money.

That brings me to where I get my rings. I buy most from TRL, some are hand wrapped, some are from other people/other sites/people selling on TRL forums, some are picked up at craft stores.

For the selling, I've been mostly gifting my work, and by that I mean I have made $10 total from all the pieces that people now have... I haven't been to good at selling... But hope that maybe some bikinis might sell...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 22:49:57 2011 No.19099 >>18238 You can rivet straight through the armor into the chainmail, or rivet to a piece of leather underneath.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 22:53:57 2011 No.19117 File: 328 KB, 1024x768, Bayeux_haubert.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] historical maille bump...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:03:57 2011 No.19168 File: 159 KB, 600x800, 1317220397554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mmmmm plate

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:06:57 2011 No.19184 >>18117 Thanks you! It helped get more people here!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:08:57 2011 No.19193 >>18348 Cool! I've seen a couple of those. I collect tabs to mix with rings make panels of maille.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:23:57 2011 No.19275 >>17365 Someone new here. Whats the difference between mail and maille?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:28:57 2011 No.19299 >>19275 More correct term to chainmail, I guess. Any of the words to a person who makes it will know what it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:38:57 2011 No.19368 I'm currently working on a shirt I'll be wearing to school for Halloween. 12 gauge, 3/8" ID, stainless steel. It's a bitch to work with. And I even chose to wind and cut all of my own rings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:42:57 2011 No.19385 >>19368 Yeah, not the best choice of material. I know. i tried it myself. I burned out a drill trying to coil it. 16g stainless looks good in 3/8" id and isn't nearly as hard to work with.

Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:42:57 2011 No.19387

I want to try making chain mail this week. I figure I'll head to Lowes and pick up whatever I need tomorrow morning on the way to work, and work on it when I get home.

What would I need to get started in this? I have wire cutters and pliers and the like, but I just need some 10-25 gauge wire and some smaller dowels to twist it around right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:49:57 2011 No.19426 >>19368 >>19385 That sounds pretty hard to work with, good luck with it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:53:57 2011 No.19450 >>19387 There are some helpful sites here: >>16762 >>16624 Sorry, I've only done a bit myself, didn't actually do the shopping. Make sure you have two pliers, a wire cutter with a really small cut, mandrel to wrap on, wire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:56:57 2011 No.19464 >>19426 >>19385 I wish I had the foresight to choose a different material or AR when I decided to make the shirt. I was only thinking of how badass it would look, not how fucking hard it would be to make. However, I do have a gorilla-grip now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 23:58:57 2011 No.19476 bump for interest. I'm thinking about getting into this myself. Gonna start small though I think and just make myself a new wallet chain or something

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 00:02:28 2011 No.19491 [DELETED]

>>19464
Got some smithers arm?
I know that feeling, I am terrible at that, so I like to keep multiple sizes of rings to test stuff then order or make more of that same size in the metals/colors I want.
I guess it makes it easier to not have to use a material that isn't good.
Made the mistake a couple times, but sometimes it ends up being good, like a bag kind of ring ends up making something awesome.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 00:02:57 2011 No.19494

>>19464
Got some smithers arm going on?
I know the feeling, I am terrible at that, so I like to keep multiple sizes of rings to test stuff then order or make more of that same size in the metals/colors I want.
I guess it makes it easier to not have to use a material that isn't good.
Made the mistake a couple times, but sometimes it ends up being good, like a bad kind of ring ends up making something awesome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 00:04:57 2011 No.19507 Okay, OP here, have been here for a while... I am falling asleep now... Goodnight! I hope this doesn't 404, please bump it? I will be back in 10 hours? Not sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 00:09:57 2011 No.19518 If this is still here, awesome, if not, I will make a new thread. Anything posted after I MAY or MAY NOT see, so I don't know if I will be able to help any...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 00:20:57 2011 No.19582 I've made about 10 square feet of chainmaille, I produce the sheets and my friend makes the shirts

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 02:45:57 2011 No.20420 File: 1.09 MB, 1600x1200, Photo0059.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just something I've been working on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 02:50:57 2011 No.20442 >>19507 I bumped this for you

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 03:12:57 2011 No.20524 >>18348 Someone needs to make scale out of pennies and soda tabs. Maybe pressed pennies from like disney world or something.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 05:51:57 2011 No.21162
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Aha! It lasted the night!
Ok heres some of my own creations... only made a handful so far, but getting better with each one. The far left is a ss/aluminium half persian necklace, a small aluminium bracelet, a ss/aluminium bracelet of the same style and a small section of harder stainless armour. Sorry about the poor quality photo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 06:35:57 2011 No.21291 >>21162 The colored stuff looks pretty good actually. I kind of worry about it looking tacky, but it's kind of neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 07:06:57 2011 No.21392 >>17399 would love to make something like this for my gf. what size of rings and such is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 07:52:57 2011 No.21493 >>21392 +1 on that

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:00:57 2011 No.21510
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Neat, I am not alone.
Chainmail have become a compulsory habit for me, while watching series and anime.
I finally figured out how to make the "leggings" good without having a open seam on the back, the trick is to make it hug the leg like a Chinese-finger-trap to force a even weight distribution, while still having a small "pouch" for the knee.

needsProtection Tue Oct 25 08:01:57 2011 No.21513

Hi I have a serious question here.

Apart from looking awesome, can i actually get a chainmail singlet or something somewhere specifically to protect myself from stabbings etc?

rough area, people pull a lot of knives, it'd be nice to be able to have some protection that was slim like chainmail.

Many thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:08:57 2011 No.21532 >>21513 If someone is going to get that close to you they could just as easily go for your brachial, radial or carotid artery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:10:57 2011 No.21541 >>17399 can anybody give me a clue how this is done, byzantine or something and what ring size

>>	needsProtection Tue Oct 25 08:11:57 2011 No.21547 >>21532 they are not that smart, i would like some simple chest down to belt protection. if you have nothing constructive to say, dont reply

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:23:57 2011 No.21573 >>21547 Weave chainmail into a leather coat or a similarly heavy coat. No one will even know you're wearing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:37:57 2011 No.21596 >>21573 >Walk down the street >Get pulled into an alley >Dude pulls out a knife >comeatmebro.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 08:52:57 2011 No.21623 >>21596 i would recommend moving to a normal neighborhood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 09:24:57 2011 No.21684 >>17399 i'm interrested in the ring size and weave, anybody can identify it for me

noko Anonymous Tue Oct 25 09:31:57 2011 No.21714

>>21513
Make some maille, buy a steak, put maille on steak and try to stab it.
That is the only way you can tell if the protection is adequate, since we don't know, what wire you use, how big your rings are and how much you weaken your rings by opening and closing them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:30:57 2011 No.21864 >>21493 >>21392 I have no idea, and no idea where I got the image... Probably the smallest size rings on TRL?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:34:57 2011 No.21874 >>21392 >>21493 >>17399 >>21541 >>21684 >>21864 Some super small size from TRL in Byze, thats all I remember... I will look for it this afternoon... Til then, classtime. Glad my thread lasted the night. Thank you sweet posters.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:43:57 2011 No.21890

>>21864
>>21874
thx was already checking trl, about 0.1oz of the smallest silver rings form trl doesn't seem very expensive, would be a great present.

btw i really like this chainmail stuff you guys make. scale armour looks nice too but seems a little expensive just for having some fun (no larper or something) and wearing it to college probably gets me in trouble with security

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:47:57 2011 No.21894 Guilty. Used to make tonnes of byzantine weave, have a few coifs and shirts I made myself when a kid. Good times. Recently made on out of >9000 mini zip-ties for a cousins party. Now that was cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:48:57 2011 No.21897 >>21894 and scratchy i think, got pics?

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 10:50:57 2011 No.21905

>Apart from looking awesome, can i actually get a chainmail singlet or something somewhere specifically to protect myself from stabbings etc?

>rough area, people pull a lot of knives, it'd be nice to be able to have some protection that was slim like chainmail.

you need rivetted maille for that, which is what medieval mail was. modern stuff where its a circle of wire butted end to end is, in all honesty, useless for actual combat, which is why there is virtually no butted maille to be found in the entire historical archaeological record for western europe from the pre-roman age to the 17th Century.

the short of it is, make rings that overlap, then the overlap part is crushed flat, and then a tiny hole punched through the two flattened parts, the links assembled, and a tiny wedge of steel pressed through the hole, and squeezed into a rivet to hold the link together.
that means the link cant spread open when hit, and so the maille stops stabs a lot better.

of course, maille isnt as good as full plate for that, but that's a lot harder to make in different ways.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 11:02:57 2011 No.21932

>>21897
He wore a long-sleeve white cotton shirt under it - he went as a crusader.

No pictures but I'd say it weighed maybe 3kg for the entire suit from coif to toe. He says it was pretty good protection .

Just did a simple 4 in 1 pattern, once all ties are in the correct spot (i.e. the middle ring when starting) I tightened it maximally. And so on and so forth, so all the zip ties were max-zipperedness.

I plan on doing it again soon. The cool bit was I used the usual white ties for the bulk of it then alternated to red ones for the templar patterning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 11:04:57 2011 No.21936 >>21890 lol shipping costs are almost as high as the material costs. 8 dollar for rings and 6 for shipping to the netherlands

xeniarc !6gJ4C.ViXk Tue Oct 25 11:05:57 2011 No.21940

>>21513
if your life is actually going to depend on the product, it is probably best to either a) entrust its production to someone who is a certified expert in the craft or b) undertake formal education to become an expert yourself. if you want to make something to protect yourself from getting stabbed i recommend getting two robust shirts and sewing them together with some steel plates in between.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 12:49:57 2011 No.22265

i was thinking instead of a ring it might be easier to make a bracelet in the same style. what kind of gauge and ring ID would you recommend for a bracelet. i want it to be small, not to wide and such, she's a slender girl and robust stuff doesn't look too good on her

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 13:00:57 2011 No.22307 >>21905 Ya, rivet for 'proper' protective mail, but something like alternating solid & butted kings weave would offer good protection compared to the alternatives....nothing/biker leathers/extreme sports armour.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 13:05:57 2011 No.22325 >>21392 >>21541 It looks like standard byzantine chain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 13:13:57 2011 No.22347 File: 332 KB, 800x600, SSL25917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did them but they are not economical, because anyone can make them and the price is low. I went to plate armour and knifemaking

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 13:26:57 2011 No.22387 >>21162 I fucking love the pink and black one. Good job bro.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 13:43:57 2011 No.22452

As someone who has done a ton of research into ancient, medieval, and renaissance warfare, weaponry, and armor; I still prefer to call it chain mail. It keeps people who are less initiated into armor from being confused, and to those who do know more about armor it helps to specify what I could have possibly meant as banded mail, or ring mail. Historically the term "maille" was originally reserved for chain mail, but was later used in reference to any metal armor.
Words change in meaning over time, and sticking to some outdated terms just seems silly to me, and spelling it maille especially bothers me, as it just seems like a pretentious attempt to sound as "ye olde" as possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:07:57 2011 No.22561 >>22452 > spelling it maille especially bothers me, as it just seems like a pretentious attempt to sound as "ye olde" as possible. Especially considering that neither 'ye olde' nor 'maille' ever existed in english before their modern misuse.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:16:57 2011 No.22590

Thanks for keeping the thread alive ♥
Back from class, some work, class in two hours...

For the byzantine,
http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavedisplay.php?key=13
A few tutorial links and AR sizes.

For ordering on TRL, order a couple items to make up for the shipping?
I usually do bulk orders with friends for $300+ and get the discount.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:23:57 2011 No.22603 File: 149 KB, 480x640, 102111210046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] half way done with this. Japanese 12 in one 14g stainless hand rolled rings.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:29:57 2011 No.22629

>>22590
thx, but i don't think i will be able to find enough people to push it over the 300 dollar. but buying more makes shipping more expensive so. but it aint that much. if i do it i'll end up with 20-25 dollars of materials and shipping. i can make at least a bracelet out of it or whatever i make and still have stuff leftover. buying her something costs about the same and it isn't diy (girls love it when you did something more than just buy stuff)

but i cant check out the site atm, she's in the same room, i'm ninja typing this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:37:57 2011 No.22662 >>22629 Of course you don't have to do the discount : ) I was just mentioning how it can be used. You could disable images in your browser or something to check it out?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:39:57 2011 No.22678 >>22662 bookmarked the link, thx a lot for it. since i cant check it right now, does the site mention ring sizes and stuff? better ask one of the experts when they are still around

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:41:57 2011 No.22687 File: 60 KB, 413x423, mintye.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22561 Ha. You're funny.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:42:57 2011 No.22690

>>22561
its mostly done becasue If I say "I've just got a new load of maille" someone will know I'm talking about a new batch of 10,000 rings, and not half a kilo of gas bills.

After all, chainmail actually means "chain chain", and for those of us familliar with that, makes it just sound as daft as typeinge itte wythe anne extrae e uponne thee endee. Or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:43:57 2011 No.22698 >>22687 >before their modern misuse lrn2rd

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:43:57 2011 No.22699
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>>22678
http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavedisplay.php?key=13
This link only has a tiny picture in the left that you could scroll down. There are AR sizes...

"Byzantine
Weave Description
This weave is basically little box weave units connected by one or more connector rings.
Sample pictured uses .063", 1/4" stainless steel rings, AR: 4.3.
Recommended AR's: 3.2, 3.5, 4.3, 4.9"

Is what is says, then there are some tutorial links.
Byzantine was my first weave, so it's one I still love.

I like chunky rings...
This is Anodized Aluminum in 14 gauge 1/4"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:45:57 2011 No.22708 >>22699 Opps, the pink is 14g 1/4 blue is 14g 5/16

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:46:57 2011 No.22712 >>22698 The only modern misuse is the pronunciation. "Ye" is pronounced "the".

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:46:57 2011 No.22713 >>22690 You pronounce maille differently to mail?

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:48:57 2011 No.22723

>>22690
I wish that the terms plate mail and scale mail etc were never made, because of the confusion they have made as to what mail is, but personally I will call it chain mail just to avoid any possible confusion, but don't have a problem if someone else just calls it mail.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:48:57 2011 No.22725
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Don't remember ring sizes...
Copper, black stainless, and bright aluminum.
Copper is 14G, black SS is 19g, alu is 18g?

I really liked making these flowers... Did then a lot last winter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:50:57 2011 No.22735 >>22713 It's pronounced "aye" like "i".

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:52:57 2011 No.22741

>>22713
if its face to face, with the sort of reenactment geeks I spend my days with, I'd be using the term "rings in 6mm Internal Diameter 50/50 riveted and solid ring in sprung carbon steel" instead of mail.

so maille is just for typing.

not least, with stuff like postal mail, email, or chain letters also being called chain mail, etc, to confuse it when searching for the subject.

so that dirty little e squatting on the end makes sense to make it less trouble.

Anyhow, Banded Mail, Ring Mail, etc are monstrous D&D-isms that have permeated the language in the last 40 years with a whole shitload of inaccuracies.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:53:57 2011 No.22746

>>22712
Well, you've sorta got a point there, but....not quite.

Ye is pronounced ye/yee (or, sometimes, yay)....what you're getting at is Ye being a mispelling of Þe.

Either way, my point stands, Ye never was a word, beyond the slang/dialect for you/your....it's a false perception that people used to say 'ye inn', or whatever.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 14:59:57 2011 No.22759

>>22741
It's more the [victorians|older than they think] than D&D, but yeah. I guess for searching online using the french spelling is useful, just snobbery with language (claiming maille is the 'real' term) annoys me, especially when said snobbery is incorrect ("ain't isn't a real word") even if you accept rules for english (which is wrong), and even if you accept using rules for classical languages in english (which is fucking stupid...."octopi")

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:00:57 2011 No.22762 >>22735 Mile? or Milay?

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:10:57 2011 No.22805

>>22759
>and even if you accept using rules for classical languages in english (which is fucking stupid...."octopi")

you're forgetting that english does not borrow from other languages. It lures other languages down darkened alleyways, mugs them, and riffles through their pockets for loose volcabulary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:17:57 2011 No.22849 >>22805 That was the best quote I've seen all day...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:18:57 2011 No.22855 >>22805 >mugs >riffles >volcabulary Now I'm hungry. Why riffles and volcabulary sound like delicious sweets to me....I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:25:57 2011 No.22891 File: 29 KB, 342x392, barclsp1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Awesome closure idea... Finishing up work, eating then back to class... be back in 4 hours...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:43:57 2011 No.22956 thx all i managed to do a quick look on it. i think i'll make a very fine bracelet for her. and with the leftovers we'll see what we can do

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:47:57 2011 No.22964 >>22956 Make earrings to match? If no ear piercings, a keyring or charm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:47:57 2011 No.22965 Just read through this thread and suddenly find myself wanting to try this out. What are some good beginner projects? Obviously not a shirt or something huge like that but would a coif be doable for a newbie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:50:57 2011 No.22979 File: 27 KB, 300x300, Peto-recorded-for-armor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chainmail is a worthless form of armor. Any self respecting warrior would wear a breast plate

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:50:57 2011 No.22981 >>22964 yeah i was thinking for stuff like that. but first lets finish my exams and after that start the creative stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:55:57 2011 No.23001 >>16762 >>16624 >>22965 The posts above will help you out. Sorry, gotta get to class. Can say more in about for hours... A coif is usually 4in1, so get that down first. It just takes a lot of time and rings.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:58:57 2011 No.23007
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>>22979
yes, but getting plate right is a lot tougher than maille. a maille t-shirt pattern will fit "ok". a plate breast takes research and skill to get right.

otherwise, you end up with Blankenshield style shit...
ie, fucking ghastly shit that makes you wish you werent wearing anything....
pic so related. open it at your own risk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 15:58:57 2011 No.23008 >>22979 dur de hur de dur

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:00:57 2011 No.23011 I know metal is a popular material for armor but have any of you stumbled upon dragon skin or anything like that? not trying to be traditional here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:01:57 2011 No.23020 >>23007 That looks gross. I've always wanted a history board to discuss shit from AD through like the 1800's

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:02:57 2011 No.23027 >>23011 You mean that ceramic scale armor? I've only seen it on a tv show years ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:06:57 2011 No.23039 >>23007 Not even a full set. Just like, breast plate, shins, and maybe glaves. Like conquistadors or musketeers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:12:57 2011 No.23059 Does it take as long as I think it does? Seriously, one set of working armour must take days to make.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:14:57 2011 No.23072
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>>23020
I'd love a history board.

and yes, that is total, utter shit, the ugliest crap you could ever encounter.

have some plate made by someone competent - robert "mac" macpherson - probably the best living armourer in the world. annoyingly, he retired around 2009 due to elbow injury.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:15:57 2011 No.23085 >>23072 >I'd love a history board. You've never been to /tg/, I take it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:17:57 2011 No.23097 File: 501 KB, 1800x1200, 95242d late15th - resize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23059 weeks. months, perhaps. this stuff, paarticularly the riveted maille was incredibly time-consuming.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:21:57 2011 No.23117

>>23039
Greaves are shin armor. Glaives are pole arms.

I would love a suit of armor, but it's just way too expensive for my budget. I'd love to make a mail byrnie or haubergeon or whatever, but it just takes too much time for me, so I'll probably end up buying one, although most of the ones I see online are made with the grain in the wrong direction because it is much quicker to make that way. I'll probably make a brigandine or jack of plates to go with it.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:24:57 2011 No.23128

>>23085
I'll rephrase that, then.

I'd love a dedicated history board, which would'nt have to share space with the other 149 40K threads on the board, and still have someone whine that its "not /tg/" - somewhere you could discuss the effects of the black death on england in the mid 14th C, or the spread of trade in the mediterranean in the 6th C, or lichtenaur's tradition for longsword use, without having to disguise it under a thin veil of "its a game, stop complaining".

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:26:57 2011 No.23139

>>23011
The Californian military body armour?
More expensive, and worse, than default military body armours. And from an 'appearance' POV it looks military.

Mebe they might try making it more flexible & appear more like traditional scale, but I can't see any point to it atm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:27:57 2011 No.23141 File: 969 KB, 420x717, Arming_Knight-Animated.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>23117 >Greaves are shin armor. Glaives are pole arms. I suspect this gif is in order at this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:41:57 2011 No.23196 >>23141 Wait does one of the arms have a pauldron and the other a spaulder? It looks like his right arm has a cut out where his armpit is, but it's a bit hard to tell from how shiny it is.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 16:55:57 2011 No.23254
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lance cutout on the righ armpit. that harness is for horseback use. (though no lance rest.)

spaulders are smaller, and over just the arm (and often have a besegaw on the chest where the armpit is) while pauldrons tend (as in this harness) to have longer extensions that cover the front of the breastplate around the shoulder.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 18:06:57 2011 No.23647
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i looked around at that site you gave me and found what i was looking for. i've found a nice wire thickness and ring diameter but i was wondering, how many rings will you need. aprox 300 rings in 1 oz for 60 dollar. (looked at the smallest ones at first without understanding all the sizes)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 18:16:57 2011 No.23717 >>21510 Looks good!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 18:28:57 2011 No.23794 going to sleep i hope the thread is alive tomorrow

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 19:45:57 2011 No.24216
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>>23647
Depends on if you want it to have a clasp or slide on the wrist.
Here's some byze/box chain for ref.

The size in the picture should be between 100-150 rings for a bracelet.

Might be more if bigger arm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 19:49:57 2011 No.24239 >>24216 Left to right: Craft store size jump rings Enameled Copper in 19g 7/32" Bright Aluminum in 18g 7/32" Anodized Aluminum in 14g 1/4"

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 19:54:57 2011 No.24273 File: 1.03 MB, 1559x712, Poster_CinePremiere_Hobbit_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Back... It's raining and foggy and drivers suck. Almost died like 59867095867568 times... Hope I'm not the only one who wants to make Dwarven maille.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 20:03:57 2011 No.24321 I was wondering how I keep a suit of chainmail clean. I also have a steel helmet that is showing oil marks or w/e and would also like to clean that. thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 20:15:57 2011 No.24393 I saw this a couple of months ago and I was pretty interested. Is making chainmail expensive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 20:17:57 2011 No.24412 >>24393 If you make it from cheap materials, not at all. It is VERY timeconsuming though.

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 21:52:57 2011 No.24968
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Guy who was inspired to try making chainmail because of this thread here.

Took my about 2 hours but I struggled out a little patch of mail.

After the bleeding stops its quite a fun hobby.

Pic related- the fruits of my struggle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 22:22:57 2011 No.25154 >>24321 In yonder olden days I'm pretty sure they would toss the mail shirt into a barrel half-full of sand and roll it around for a couple of hours. Personally I'd just use a pressure-washer and a shit-load of WD-40

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 23:28:57 2011 No.25502 >>24968 Really glad that I inspired someone! Feel pretty awesome. The thread has only been open for 30 hours, and someone already started!

Anonymous Tue Oct 25 23:46:57 2011 No.25621

>>25502
Yeah I saw this thread in the morning before I went to class and read through it. I went out and bought supplies in the afternoon because I was so excited. Since my last post my little patch has almost quadrupled in size, i'm getting a lot quicker at making these little bastard rings.

Thanks for the new hobby!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 23:56:57 2011 No.25690 planning on ordering rings any idea on the amount i would need for a chest piece

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 25 23:58:57 2011 No.25700 I did it in 6th grade... with 14 gauge copper wire... it looked nice, but I didn't have the patience to make anything big enough to be wearable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:02:57 2011 No.25726 4-1 European with aluminium jump cuts combined with steel wire. All the trim and designs on my hauberk are black dyed aluminium and the bulk of it is steel rings I've cut myself. Anyone done any complex designs on their chainmaille?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:03:57 2011 No.25732 How many rings/how much money would I need to make a beanie-ish hat? Where can I find a plan for such a thing? Would it take experience?

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:07:57 2011 No.25754

>>25732
> About 16,000 jump cut's (rings)
> For a beanie you would use the same basic design as knitting (Fuck it, we all know chainmail is just knitting for men)
> Yes and no, start off by making a 50cm x 50cm sheet, you will get your head in by that point. Will probably take you about a week or two of 1-2 hours a day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:49:57 2011 No.26007 File: 833 KB, 2576x1932, order 086.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wow, this thread is still here? Have a picture of my new less insane hat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:51:57 2011 No.26016 >>26007 post a pic of you wearing it!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:53:57 2011 No.26034 Does it stop bullets?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:54:57 2011 No.26043 >>26007 That is a cool ass hat. How much does it weigh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:54:57 2011 No.26045 >>26034 very large slow bullets like nerf darts or a misfired musket using 1600s gunpowder

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:55:57 2011 No.26049 How resilient is the anodizing on anodized aluminum? If I make a mail out of black anodized aluminum in two weeks will it look speckled with flecks? I understand how anodizing works I've just never seen how it wears.

>>	teka Wed Oct 26 00:57:57 2011 No.26063 >>25732 >>25754 beware that mail loves hair (in my experience). A neato beany-hat might well never want to leave your head in one piece.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:57:57 2011 No.26064 >>26045 Why not bullets from a regular pistol? It doesn't look like they can go through those small holes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:58:57 2011 No.26069 >>26007 how did you make the hat? did you just wrap an existing hat in chainmail?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 00:59:57 2011 No.26076 >>26064 Unless the mail is made of welded steel rings, it's just gonna smash through it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:00:57 2011 No.26086 >>26064 Even better than that, pores....no gun has bullets small enough to fit in human pores, so...trust to your skin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:03:57 2011 No.26103 File: 967 KB, 2576x1932, order 021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26016 there you go >>26043 3 pounds, the other hat i posted earlier>>16926 is 9 pounds

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:03:57 2011 No.26105 >>26064 Bullets easily break maille and in fact, the maille fragments and causes more harm than potential good against a bullet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:03:57 2011 No.26106 >>26076 Not to suggest that solid ring steel mail is bulletproof I assume? A lot more resistance than your flesh, could slow down enough to make the difference between life & death.....but....not "stop bullets"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:04:57 2011 No.26123 File: 921 KB, 2576x1932, order 089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>26069 I started with a chain, then built up from there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:07:57 2011 No.26141 >>26123 so its just a giant spiral of what appears to be Persian weave?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:09:57 2011 No.26158 >>26103 you are one sad looking dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:11:57 2011 No.26180 >>26158 >>26103 He means sad as in 'life is worthless' not sad as in pathetic. I think it's the state of your wallpaper getting you down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:12:57 2011 No.26183 >>26106 Actually, it's probably more lethal to get shot through a chain shirt than nude because the bullet will push shattered rings into your flesh like shrapnel. Seriously, chain is for slashing. If it stopped bullets, they'd still be using it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:12:57 2011 No.26184 >>26141 . Actually i made units of three pieces of full persian connected, stacked them vertically and then connected them on the outside for stability. The top is a spiral though, took me forever to figure out the spacing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:12:57 2011 No.26185 File: 169 KB, 800x965, coloradorenaissancefestival.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey, OP - u still here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:14:57 2011 No.26203 >>26180 Either interpretation is appropriate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:17:57 2011 No.26215 Anodized aluminum vs. enameled copper. You have sixty seconds. Show your work.

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 01:24:57 2011 No.26246
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>>26215
Aluminum on left, enameled copper on right.

The aluminum color mixes well even if individual pieses are a slightly different color.
The copper isnt enameled at the ends which gives it a splotchy silver look no matter how you cut it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:31:57 2011 No.26888 nice the thread survived the night again

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:40:57 2011 No.26929 >>26103 you're older than i expected well my gf has iny tiny wrists so 100-150 rings should do the trick if i see these >>24216 >>24239 thx all. and show some more chainmail1!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:43:57 2011 No.26943 I just had an idea. How well does anodized aluminum resist water? A scale umbrella would be cool. Probably fairly heavy, so that might not work anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:44:57 2011 No.26947 >>26943 i think it'll leak through, no wait i'm sure it will leak

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:45:57 2011 No.26950 >>26947 wait i didn't read a SCALE umbella. might work a bit, gives your strong arms i think

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:48:57 2011 No.26962 >>26950 >>26947 Well, I'd put something under it, probably normal umbrella nylon or something. I'd imagine that a normal cheap umbrella might be too flimsy to support the weight.. could be a fun project though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 03:52:57 2011 No.26979 >>26962 use a musket as well ehm whatever it is called, holding stick. shields you from the rain, shields you from danger, and kills the danger

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 04:22:57 2011 No.27094 i love this DIY board so much i hardly pay attention to my /b/ and /ck/ anymore. curious about some statistics

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 04:40:57 2011 No.27189 >>27094 Agreed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 04:58:57 2011 No.27257 232 replies already, show some more chainmail

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 05:03:57 2011 No.27282 We need OP and the scale guy to come back, Ive whored my stuff out enough as it is.

>>	Dragon !!ODVt0CfH4+8 Wed Oct 26 05:45:57 2011 No.27410 File: 222 KB, 1123x304, Dragonscale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone tried Dragonscale? 20ga 3/16 and 20ga 1/8, Anodized Aluminium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 05:50:57 2011 No.27425 >>27410 looks nice, but i'm most interrested in chainmail jewelry so

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 06:00:57 2011 No.27459 >>27410 Yeah, I use 18ga 1/4 and 19ga 3/16 and its pretty similar to yours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 06:03:57 2011 No.27467 I'm moving next week so...no sense getting started now but as soon as I get settled I'm doing this

>>	Dragon !!ODVt0CfH4+8 Wed Oct 26 06:09:57 2011 No.27485 File: 110 KB, 1738x332, Japanese2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's my Japanese 12 in 2, so simple, but I think it looks quite nice. 18ga 3/16, 20ga 1/8 Anodized Aluminium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 06:13:57 2011 No.27492 >>27485 That is a nice pattern, I always liked hexagonal shapes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 06:22:57 2011 No.27519 >>27410 would look so good with black upper and a red or something as under layer

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 08:21:57 2011 No.27685 OP we miss you

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 08:44:57 2011 No.27717 i tried some weaves, shit i suck.....

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 09:18:57 2011 No.27782 File: 1.64 MB, 1884x2604, medevil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surprised this thread is still going :D MOAR CHAINZ barmp

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 10:35:57 2011 No.27893 bump it with chains. hmmm sounds a little like some BDSM thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 11:44:57 2011 No.28050 >>26185 I am now. How did you know I go to the CO ren fest? Stalker.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 11:46:57 2011 No.28057 >>27282 OP is the "scale guy". By the by, OP is a chick. Good day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 11:49:57 2011 No.28066 Sorry guys, I went to class and it was canceled... Wasted gas and almost died. Stupid drivers :<

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:00:57 2011 No.28086 bump, this thread is made of awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:00:57 2011 No.28087 File: 759 KB, 3264x1840, IMAG0153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:07:57 2011 No.28099 File: 231 KB, 768x1024, alumscale45seamclose1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:10:57 2011 No.28106 File: 51 KB, 211x250, 1309218784681.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22979 So true. Besides, anyone who makes chain mail and doesn't know how to work a forge and anvil is basically knitting except with metal. Not exciting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:14:57 2011 No.28112 File: 123 KB, 600x600, 1312991757103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>28106 Dude, have you ever knitted? It is NOTHING like making chainmail.

Jaxa Wed Oct 26 12:22:57 2011 No.28125

I just purchased some scale, but the rings I got are the keyring style. And balls are they a pain to work with. Since the scales I'm working with are ano aluminium, do you think I should just use chain mail links? What I am afraid of is making the scale and then having links pop.

Also, has anyone tried to silence scale at all? I'm derping around in the woods with this (once it's done) on my head. I want to be able to hear over it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:29:57 2011 No.28139

>>28125
Earlier I posted a bit on it...
Dip the backs in plastidip maybe?
Just use enough rings so the weave is tight.
In pictures above(close to top of page) I put two rings through the scales.

You need a split ring opener for the keyring style.
I got mine from TRL, but some are at craft stores.

Using normal rings is fine if you are already using AA scales because they aren't that sturdy, so the rings don't have to be perfect.

I used SS scales and 16g 5/16" SS rings in the pictures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:31:57 2011 No.28144 >>16974 >>16965 >>16739 These are the scales pieces I was talking about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:33:57 2011 No.28149 >>28106 > forge and anvil ... basically the same as playing with clay. Not exciting. Some people like knitting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:40:57 2011 No.28171 File: 851 KB, 3056x2292, 100_1893[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ran out of pictures... Took another... Scale belt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:43:57 2011 No.28179 Where do you get the rings from? Do you have a noob guide somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:44:57 2011 No.28180 >>28179 Check out these links >>16762 >>16624

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:47:57 2011 No.28187 >>28179 make em! you'll be able to crush coconuts with your new found muscle hands after no time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 12:59:57 2011 No.28204 I've made a coif, and i'm trying to get my own spinning jig up and running. I was the photog for a college club producing a calendar of women in chainmaille bras

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 13:09:57 2011 No.28222

I've been inspired by that spider-robot engineer diy-god living out in the forest, and am planning to give this a go.

I have a question though, do the majority of you make your own rings or buy them? Making your own looks really easy, so why would anybody want to buy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 13:11:57 2011 No.28227 >>28222 saves you time, you're already dumping boatloads into the actual weave process

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 13:23:57 2011 No.28253

>>28222
yeah making your own almost doubles the time it takes to make mail but I enjoy making my own rings.

I usually do it while I watch TV or something to keep my hands busy. It's cheaper and makes your hands stronger but its time consuming when weaving is already quite time consuming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 13:29:57 2011 No.28262 >>28222 It's easier to buy supplies like colored rings, scales, and rubber rings than it is to make them. It's also nice to get small quantities for commissions or to test out something you don't want to buy a whole spool of.

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 13:57:57 2011 No.28351

>>16558
make a ring machine with a 3/8 inch steel rod and wood stand. Stick a drill in it. Make a hole in the rod. Turn 14 gauge steel wire. It makes "springs". Cut those vertically with steel pliers. It makes instant 3/8th inch 14 gauge chainmail rings. Weave in 1 in 4 simple pattern

With a bro, you can do a whole chainmail for a very low price in about a month.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 14:14:57 2011 No.28394 Does anyone here score snap? My friend made a full hauberk with that technique... Hand wrapped, scored, and weaved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 14:27:57 2011 No.28427 >>23072 >>23141 Shit I just got a boner

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 14:43:57 2011 No.28470

>>21714
>>21513
I feel like using a thick gauge steel wire, even butted, should protect from most knife wounds at least to some extent. They're not going to stab you with the force of a thousand suns or anything, and they're not exactly using a broadsword.
As for the strength of the material, bending it around actually makes it much harder and stiffer through cold working. I guess you could toughen up your armor alot by smashing each ring flat to work it and overlapping the butts.

Of course, all this will only protect you from a few quick stabs, what most people get from a shitty robbery (PR fag here). If someone actually wants to kill you specifically, mail wont help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:15:57 2011 No.28578 we need moar pics

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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:25:57 2011 No.28618 File: 18 KB, 766x1201, hauberk6.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:28:57 2011 No.28632

>>28351
>Stick a drill in it

NO.
DO NOT DO THIS.

put two bends in the rod end, to turn it into a simple crank that you can turn by hand.

linking it up to a drill means that you're feeding wire into the mandrel with something powered with a far higher rate of RPMs and torque than you need, and its just asking for your fingers to get pulled in with the wire and wrapped round the mandrel. If you're lucky, you'll break the bones. if you're unlucky, you'll rip the finger off, or worse, deglove the entire finger. go do a google image search for "finger degloving injury" if you must. I'm not posting an image of the result here.

I know people who've had such injuries as a result of wanting to save 5 mins effort on a project that'll take months.

its not worth the risk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:32:57 2011 No.28649 >>28632 +1 on that. that's just asking for accidents.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:39:57 2011 No.28679 File: 40 KB, 720x540, scalering.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any advice on this? OP here... Want to combine scale and maille...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 15:59:57 2011 No.28763 >>28679 https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0aGVoYXBweWJhcmJhcmlhb mhvcmRlbGFuZHN8Z3g6MjA5MTE5NzA0OGI0OWNkMA&pli=1 This was pasted earlier in the thread. It'll really help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 16:18:57 2011 No.28836 >>28632 If you're careful and have and don't turn the drill all the way up, you should be fine with two people. You just need to make sure that the person feeding the wire isn't gripping it and that they wont get tangled up. I used to make it this way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 16:22:57 2011 No.28853 >>28763 Thanks man, but I posted that link ♥ I guess I am wondering about how the maille should attach to the scales... I drafted out a couple ideas of what the basic shapes of the panels of each should look like, but am looking for advice.

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 16:23:57 2011 No.28857

OK, I'm looking to buy some chain links from http://theringlord.com the only problem is the site is confusing me to no end.
What i would like is A LOT of rings for as cheep as possible. I'm hoping to make a shirt to wear around the house for fun so the strength is not very important, i would prefer the rings to be in silver and all the same size but the metal can all be different. I also live in the UK and have never done chain mail before so if the rings could be in a nice size. Oh and i would live the finessed project to be heavy but again cost is my primary thought. If anyone could help me which rings to pick and the prices i would be very great-full.

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 16:40:57 2011 No.28952

>>28857
If you don't want to go through the trouble of trying to select rings and etc, the armor kits section might be right for you:
http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=90&cat=Chainmail+Armor+Kits&websess=1
4498593886907

If you want to get a feeler for chainmail, and again, don't want the trouble of selecting ring sizes, half way down the page is a selection of beginner kits with pliers and rings:
http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=97&cat=Chainmail+Experimentation+Kits&amp
;websess=14498593886907

I will search through/ask some friends what size ring they used in their hauberks/pants/vests/etc, until then, people that posted their armor in this thread mentioned the ring sized they used. Just look above.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 16:54:57 2011 No.29013 I feel pretty damn accomplished to have my thread last 48 hours on a new board. Hells yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 17:01:57 2011 No.29044 File: 42 KB, 533x494, gallery_12_34292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 17:15:57 2011 No.29115

>>28857
Hey man, uk here too. Problem with ringlord is its USA which means you'll have to pay lots of shipping. If you're in the UK - for stainless steel wire check out wires.co.uk and for pre-cut rings check beadsisters.co.uk. If you're just wanting to wear whatever around the house you should use alluminium, its cheaper, lighter and easier to work with. One problem is that beadsisters are a jewelery suppliers - i dont know if they have a shirt's worth of rings in stock, and it may be expensive. Maybe try asking them who thier supplier is?
Hope this helps

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 17:56:57 2011 No.29256 >>29115 dutch over here but those beadsisters might make it a lot easier for me. thx a lot (the dude who wants to make a bracelet for his gf)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 17:57:57 2011 No.29263 TRL is in Canada, I wish it was is US of A, then shipping would be cheaper. Try electrical/home repair shops for mandrels/dowels and wire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 18:25:57 2011 No.29395 File: 107 KB, 534x800, 1317219746356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 19:11:57 2011 No.29563 File: 772 KB, 3056x2292, 100_1894[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dog maille bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:02:57 2011 No.29762 bump?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:14:57 2011 No.29806 >>29563 I am so making my dog a scale coat now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:16:57 2011 No.29818 >>16605 this seems like some lazy loose shit maybe a hipster could use is its cool that you made something though

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:18:57 2011 No.29826 >>29806 Use something lightweight like aluminum and don't expect them to like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:23:57 2011 No.29844 >>29818 You have no idea what your talking about do you?

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 20:24:57 2011 No.29848 Just realized I've been anon the whole time and you have no idea when I post... Star = OP

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 20:32:57 2011 No.29872 File: 584 KB, 1010x1500, il_fullxfull.5250200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to make this, but with a sweetheart neckline rather than drooping neckline. ON, and a AR thats street legal.

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 20:37:57 2011 No.29888 File: 58 KB, 550x477, sharks-love-chainmail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Star Wed Oct 26 20:50:57 2011 No.29946 File: 413 KB, 1500x1125, g33909_CC armored dog chainmail French fleur-de-lis 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 20:51:57 2011 No.29954

What weave should you use to make a hauberk?

I've wanted to make one for awhile but haven't figured out what kind of weave to use.

I'm good at just about anything, I think I my favorite weave is European 8 in 2 but wouldn't that be very heavy for a hauberk?

Should I just stick with the standard 4 in 1?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 21:03:57 2011 No.30016 >>29946 that dog is winning at life

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 21:09:57 2011 No.30039 Hauberk stats from mailler friends: 14 ga 3/8 galvy 4in1 for both friends look on TRL forums/gallery and see what looks nice to you.

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 21:20:57 2011 No.30083 File: 63 KB, 500x667, funny-pictures-cat-does-not-want-bath.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 21:36:57 2011 No.30156 We wear chainmail gloves at work. Safety device while cutting meat.

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 22:05:57 2011 No.30258 File: 388 KB, 768x1024, Bodice_top_chainmail_dress_2_by_Gilleban.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to make this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 26 22:21:57 2011 No.30329 >>30258 Thats damn nice - I imagine it would be hard to get the propper curves on it though. Mine would come out looking like a metal curtain draped over her

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 22:39:57 2011 No.30393 File: 193 KB, 900x1200, My_Chainmail_Necklace_2_by_MorganCrone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Want to make this too.

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 22:49:57 2011 No.30430 >>30329 it just involves contractions and meeting up the sides when they are not straight. I drafted out a cool bodice but it's in the car, in the cold, past a field of snow. I'll post it tomorrow afternoon.

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 22:50:57 2011 No.30435 File: 794 KB, 501x1027, picture-31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Star Wed Oct 26 23:04:57 2011 No.30521 File: 97 KB, 556x400, Chainmail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 26 23:51:57 2011 No.30667

This thread got me to try making mail because I read one of the websites posted and I had all the stuff lying around.

It's fun but really hard on my girly hands.

What's a good thing to try making first? All I have is a bunch of rings and a square of European 4 in 1 that's about 3 inches square and I don't know where to go from here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 27 05:35:57 2011 No.31608 is this thread still bumpable?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 27 05:35:57 2011 No.31609 >>31608 Nope. I'm post 312, you were 311.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 27 08:36:57 2011 No.31864 no bump?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 27 08:44:57 2011 No.31871 this thread dying?

Anonymous Thu Oct 27 11:37:57 2011 No.32143
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>>30667
First thing i made was this: it's a collar for my gf. Basically did the same as you, made a square, then another, and joined them together. Did the same again and joined together again. It's a neat little accessory, durable, plus it protects her from knife attacks to the neck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 27 11:44:57 2011 No.32154 wow this thread is alive for some time

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