Chest Lid Hinge

[Anonymous No.1647952]

Pic somewhat related.
I'm trying to build a chest with a lid. The top will have to swing up (see pic). But the top will be about 3 inches high. And the chest will be pushed up against a wall with very little clearance (maybe 1/4"). So the lid will have to move forward as it is lifted in order to clear the wall. This means that the hinges (mounted inside the cabinet) will need a relatively complex geometry.

I don't know what such a hinge would be called in order to Google for the hardware. Any ideas or leads?

[Anonymous No.1647961]

>And the chest will be pushed up against a wall with very little clearance
why? why can't there be space?
>But the top will be about 3 inches high.
wtf, why?

[Anonymous No.1647967]

>>1647961
>why? why can't there be space?
Because those are the customer's design requirements. And the customer is always right.

[Anonymous No.1647971]

>>1647967
the customer sounds like a huge faggot but you could simply do this

[Anonymous No.1647991]

>>1647952
don't all kitchen cabinet hinges do this?
swing up cabinet hinges certainly do.
also i don't know how you would mount it but upvc window hinges work on that kind of idea, the hinge side of the window pushes into the frame as it closes to seal, and pulls out as it opens to clear.

[Anonymous No.1648001]

>>1647991
>don't all kitchen cabinet hinges do this?
Some Blum hinges do. But they only push out enough to clear a half inch door or face frame. So I'm looking for a generic name for this sort of hinge that can be spec'd for a larger clearance (thicker lid).
>upvc window hinges work on that kind of idea
Yeah. But one edge of the window pushes into the room as the other edge swings out.

I didn't state this before (and I deserve the shit I'll be getting) but I'm retrofitting an existing piece of furniture. It has a piano hinge on the back, but gouges the wall if placed closer than 3 inches. The top is slightly wider than the cabinet sides, so swinging in into the interior won't work. And cutting the lid and putting a piano hinge 3 inches in from the back is not acceptable either.

[Anonymous No.1648091]

>>1647952
How about an offset door hinge?

[Anonymous No.1648097]

>>1647952
look at various "concealed cabinet hinge"s and you might find what you need or get some inspiration to look for what you do need.

There are many styles that rotate on different offsets axis or geometry, and in steps. examples: rotate on axis, extend then pivot, pivot on offset point axis, etc

pic related

also see: coffee table lift mechanism for more complex examples

[Anonymous No.1648118]

>>1647967
True, but customers are also usually ignorant, and it's your job to educate them. If there's baseboard you have at least 1/2", and with shoe you'll have a full inch probably. You could easily ask the customer to confirm this, and it won't even sound like you're going against their wishes.

[Anonymous No.1648233]

>>1647952
Try googling “zero clearance hinges”

[Anonymous No.1648327]

>>1647952
like this (except flush)?

[Anonymous No.1648331]

>>1648097
>>1648233
>>1648327

OP said "3 inches high". No damn hinge can do that except maybe some industrial monster.

[Anonymous No.1648337]

>>1647952
Any four-bar linkage will do the job

[Anonymous No.1648584]

>>1648331
Or maybe concealed door hinges meant for full sized doors
Or some more alternate geometry pivot mechanism like pic related

[Anonymous No.1649698]

>>1648327
This is like a Blum cabinet door hinge. The concept would work but cabinet doors are typically .75" to 1.0" thick max.
>>1648337
>four-bar linkage
Now we are getting somewhere!
>>1648584
Got a link for a vendor?

[Anonymous No.1649740]

>>1649698
That's a pic from some alibaba shit, you can just search the pic file name and end up with a link
Looks like "swing up flap hinge" or lift up flap hinge are 2 names for those things

[Anonymous No.1649742]

>>1649698
check this one out for related, plus pics with examples using the cabinet/door concealed hinges, possible inspiration?
amazon.com/dp/B01M6XXUM1/

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>>1649740
sounds like a milf I know

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ever encounter one of those couches with a bed that you can fold out from under the cushions. pretty well exactly the same thing here except instead of a couch its a box and instead of a bed its a lid