/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1624413]

Can anyone else compete with the Ryobi 1 plus battery system? Seems to be perfect for diy and light professional work.

[Anonymous No.1624517]

>>1624413
not really, there are better quality tool lines out there but even the professional level stuff cant compete with the product line up.

[Anonymous No.1624520]

>>1624517
I just got the new brushless 6.5” circular saw. It’s fucking great. Slapped a diablo blade on there and it’s been slicing through some osb

[Anonymous No.1624525]

>>1624413

it depends on how many years it takes them to abandon it to a new product line.

[Anonymous No.1624549]

>>1624525
They publicly stated they would never change their battery system

[Anonymous No.1624589]

>>1624525
they have used the ONE+ batteries for 23 years now, it is literally the oldest cordless tool platform in the world and Home Depot has guaranteed they will never change batteries.

tool companies realized a long time ago that rolling out new battery platforms is dumb, you might force your customers to buy new tools and throw out the old ones but that just gives them the opportunity to cross shop with the competition and switch brands. with new lithium battery tech and brushless motors there are constant updates and "next-generation" tool models coming out, all using the same batteries. that way you can encourage customers to buy newer and better tools while staying within the same battery environment.

[Anonymous No.1624598]

Fuck off, shills.

[Anonymous No.1624603]

>>1624413
>Ryobi 1 plus battery system?
all of them?
its a battery. this is the biggest and ugliest one with a big stick thing on it. stupid.

>>1624589
>olling out new battery platforms is dumb
nobody forces anything, new tools (brushless, efficient etc) are better and people buy new tools occasionally, but if you don't want to buy new tools then don't.

[Anonymous No.1624631]

>>1624413
>since 1996

[Anonymous No.1624636]

>>1624603
>nobody forces anything, new tools (brushless, efficient etc) are better and people buy new tools occasionally, but if you don't want to buy new tools then don't.

Ryobi started out with those blue dinosaur tools with the black and yellow NiCd batteries, now they have brushless motors and lithium batteries with 21700 cells. same platform, same tools and batteries but vastly improved technology.

as i said before its better to stick with the same tool platform and just improve the technology rather than produce something completely new every 5-10 years. every time a customer needs to phase out their old stuff it give them the opportunity to look at other brands, which is bad for your sales.

[Anonymous No.1624668]

>>1624636
i'd rather they made a new battery than use that battery with the dildo sticking out the top.
every other battery slides on and is around half the size because of it.
its a tool not a fucking house, even a home gamer can afford to buy a new drill or saw in a couple of years.
plenty units come with batteries to start you off, if you wanted to jump ship you would do it regardless

[Anonymous No.1624672]

>>1624668
>battery with the dildo sticking out the top
Anon, why do you see phalluses everywhere? Is there something you want to get off your chest?

[Anonymous No.1624676]

>>1624413
The battery system is kind of irrelevant when the tools they power are garbage.

[Anonymous No.1624677]

>>1624676

[Anonymous No.1624678]

There's not nearly enough shilling in this thread.

[Anonymous No.1624686]

>>1624678
Really? Oh, okay. Erm ... I would gladly swap my first born for the entire Ryobi 1+ range because they are that awesome.

[Anonymous No.1624688]

>>1624636
yeah i read what you said and i disagree.
neither tools nor batteries last forever, all its based on is them not dying at the same time.

[Anonymous No.1624714]

>>1624672
>off your chest
no i think i made it perfectly clear i want something up my ass

[Anonymous No.1624725]

>>1624686
How many 2ah batteries are in that bundle?

[Anonymous No.1624729]

>>1624725
Minimum of one 4Ah per tool, or the deal is off.

[Anonymous No.1624739]

>>1624549

BMW publicly stated they would never make a FWD car and they weren't ever going back to turbos in the early 00's

[Anonymous No.1624741]

>>1624668

>with the dildo sticking out the top.

The dildo feature is great. On the majority of their tools you can put in a battery without having to even grab the battery if you have it sitting on its "foot" already.

[Anonymous No.1624742]

>>1624686

That's not hard to phathom you doing especially since the child isn't yours.

[Anonymous No.1624804]

>>1624741
Woah and the one in a billion times I need to put in a battery and it happens to be sitting upright on a bench instead of in the charger or a bag or sideways in the case I'll have saved about a quarter of a second because I have two arms so holding the tool in one hand I could pick the battery up with jyvspare hand and actually insert the battery while I'm walking to the job, actually saving time.

[Anonymous No.1625304]

>>1624804

How does the Ryobi dildo battery affect you? 18volts through the prostate is great.

[Anonymous No.1625330]

>>1624742
The clue is in the wording ... MY first born ... not my wife's boyfriend's first born.

[Anonymous No.1625373]

>>1624631
So you can find old blue Ryobi tools and throw new batteries in them?

[Anonymous No.1625484]

>>1625330

I thought you were just trying to /cope/. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.1625486]

>>1625373

https://youtu.be/l2FajOdEU9U

Yes actually.

[Anonymous No.1625874]

>>1625486
That changes my opinion about ryobi, They look like crap and feel cheap but I respect them now. Not sure how often other companies change but Dewalt seems to be doing it often

[Anonymous No.1625880]

>>1625874
.they did change but they sell an adapter for $35

[Anonymous No.1625885]

>>1625486
The funny part is once that I bothered to consider picking up a few of those blue tools, I stopped finding any. Probably because I don't go out to as many yard sales as I used to.

[Anonymous No.1625934]

Are cordless tools a complete meme for someone who barely uses them? I need to use tools once in a blue moon but I'd still like to have the basic ones around. Problem is that the batteries turns to shit after awhile. Is that still true? I have a couple of old DeWalt cordless drills and bought a couple of battery packs for them, all of the batteries stopped charging within a couple of years.

Has battery tech improved enough for me to consider more cordless shit? I was looking at the Ryobi brushless tools but the batteries (for all tools really) are fucking expensive as hell. I don't want to keep buying new ones even if the Ryobi tools seem to be decent quality and not as expensive.

Also why don't these companies make a cordless to corded conversion kit so you can use them even if your battery situation is fucked?

[Beppu No.1625939]

>>1625934
No, Li-Ion is good in that respect. You shouldn’t store them long term if they’re charged 100% or completely dead. Try and store them with like 2/3 of a charge, and great thing about lithium is you can grab the tool 6 months later and will still have 50% battery, or you can throw it on a charger for 20min and be at 80%-90%.

And they don’t make a conversion kit because it would take a big ass power supply to put out the current the tools need. Also they make their money on the batteries so it would be bad business.

[Anonymous No.1625948]

>>1625939
>No, Li-Ion is good in that respect
>50% battery
I didn't quite follow. Say I use the tool 2 or 3 times a year. If I leave the battery at like 2/3rd charge are you saying it'll only drain a little down to 50% over a long time? Or will the battery capacity have dropped to 50% over 6 months of virtually no use?

>They make their money on the batteries so it would be bad business
Another company should step up and offer a conversion kit with a power supply. I'd easily pay like $100 for one just to have around in case the batteries are dead. Literally nothing worse than going to the garage for something you want to do right away and the fucking batteries are either empty or dead so you need to wait hours to use the tool (or spend $50 etc to replace the batteries )

[Anonymous No.1625955]

>>1625948
You can do it yourself pretty easily. I did it with some old Makita 9.6 volt tools. The problem is you need a fuckton of amps and a power supply that handle peak loads.

The thing about low voltage DC motors is they have very, very high peak draw. So, during start-up under load or at stall it is not uncommon for a little tool motor to draw 40 or 50 amps. Do a price check on eBay. Those Chinese power supplies that claim to handle 50 amps start at $125. Who knows if they can actually handle that kind of power though.

I was able to find a used 12 DC power supply with a slightly adjustable voltage. I lowered it to 11 volts and my 9.6 volt tools liked that just fine. It was a super old Made in the USA model though. It is also heavy as fuck. At least 30 pounds.

[Anonymous No.1625957]

>>1625948
>>1625934
>>1625880
>dewalt conversion shit.
Fucking hell.

But a combo with a new lithium v
Battery and charger and enjoy your old tools again

[Anonymous No.1625965]

>>1624676
speaking troof will get you listed as baiting. fanbois cannot be swayed from their choice of the best.

you will now be banned from twitter and youtube.

[Beppu No.1626014]

>>1625948
I’m saying Lithium Ion doesn’t self-discharge nearly as fast as the older NiCd tools. So you can put it away with 3 bars and when you pick it up 3 months later, it will still have tons of charge left.

If you put away a totally dead lithium battery and forget about it for like 2 years, it could self discharge low enough that it hurts the cell. And charging to 100% and storing isn’t as optimal as storing it at 50%, but with occasional homeowner use, maybe this means after 7 years of putting away with 4 bars, the battery only holds 70% of its original capacity compared to 75%-80% if you tried to store it half charged. They will handle hundreds and hundreds of full cycles before there is a big enough loss in capacity that you think about a new battery. Also try not to store lithium batteries in real high temps.

And the power supply part, like I said earlier and what this anon said >>1625955 those lithium tools draw a lot of power at full load, especially stuff like saws and impact wrenches, so even the cheapest Chinesium kit wouldn’t be cheap.

This website has lots of good info on lithium batteries.

[Anonymous No.1626015]

yeah corded tools, how is this even a question?

[Beppu No.1626025]

>>1626015

[Anonymous No.1626036]

>>1626015
Buyers remorse, and bepis trying to convince himself that the 6 paychecks he spent on cordless tools was money well spent.

[Anonymous No.1626053]

Has Ryobi given Home Depot the edge over Lowe’s? Ryobi is insanely popular

[Beppu No.1626079]

>>1626036
Man if only I could save up 6 paychecks for an impulse tool purchase...

My GF got me the Ridgid kit for Xmas.

>>1626053
Milwaukee did. Lowe’s doesn’t have Makita either. And I think their Bosch selection is very mediocre. So pretty much only contractor grade option from Lowe’s is DeWalt.

Although if you want cheap shit, Lowe’s has B&D (and maybe Skil soon?) but I don’t see a reason to buy Porter Cable over Ryobi (I heard the PC drill and impact are slightly nicer if you never plan on expanding). Kobalt 24V are nice tools too if you have any confidence the brand will be around for any longer. And the Craftsman tools might be replacing Porter Cable-Kobalt as the DIYer alternative to Ryobi.

[Anonymous No.1626197]

>>1625880
Those 20/60 volt batteries don't fit the other style either, also a change.

[Anonymous No.1626206]

>>1626197
>don't fit the other style either
The contact interface is completely backwards compatible with 20V tools. The only incompatibility is that a few 20V tools have the battery situated in an alcove or enclosure that's too small to accommodate the larger 60V batteries.

[Anonymous No.1626384]

>>1626206
Flexvolt batteries dont fit on those 18v adapters, you can only use XR batteries.