/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1557370]

Hi dudes haven't seen a thread dedicated to these kind of questions so here we go

I'm looking for a cordless screwdriver for my old man.
I'm looking for something that is similar to the Bosch go but with a trigger and not pressure triggered.
I've seen the "Black & Decker BDCS40BI" witch you can twist the handle so it looks like a regular screwdriver but as far as I learned B&D is not really that reliable.
Do you have any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.1557628]

Wiha has a nice one... https://www.wihatools.com/speede?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrs2qyMTE4AIVkhx9Ch2umwnmEAQYASABEgInQ_D_BwE

[Beppu No.1557631]

>>1557628
>$250
Jesus

And when you posted it last time, I said B&D is perfectly fine for shit around the house. It’s definitely better than the Hyper Tough Wally brand stuff. Pic related looks straight without breaking the bank, otherwise get one of the 12V drill-drivers from Milwaukee or Ridgid.

[Anonymous No.1557688]

>>1557631
This looks good though I need one that is activated with a simple trigger not motion triggered

[Anonymous No.1557689]

>>1557631
My dad is old school and he cant really deal with all this new tech shit lol
He got his first smartphone laat year and even then he bought an outdated lg g1
Lol

[Anonymous No.1557692]

>>1557631
I have a hyper tough toolbag and the shit is dope. I love it. Never used the tools though, I imagine they suck. I buy harbor freight for regular handheld tools and dewalt for the big boy toys

[Anonymous No.1557735]

I have the Milwaukee 2402. Pretty good, check it

[Anonymous No.1557772]

Makita has a 7.2V impact driver, TD021DSE. Has 21Nm torque, and it has a normal switch. For comparison the BD has about 4.5Nm torque.

[Anonymous No.1557777]

Thanks for the replies I'll check those out

[Anonymous No.1557806]

Have you considered Bosch IXO

[Anonymous No.1557807]

>>1557772
>21 Nm
This is fucking 12V cordless-drill tier.

[Anonymous No.1557957]

What's the point of this tool? What's the difference between this and and a screw gun? I can't think of any application for it that a screw gun wouldn't work for

[Anonymous No.1557994]

>>1557957
This tool is very niche.
Main purpose is to disassemble and assemble stuff, like electronics, especially on the go.
Considering its 5 nm torque, it can be used to screw tiny self-tapers in wood.
So, in general it is better to get 12V li-ion drill, it will have more power and torque. Get this screwdriver only if your drill doesn't fit in spaces, or you can't control tightening torque well.

[Anonymous No.1558007]

>>1557689
id avoid that one if he is tech averse, the Dewalt Gyroscopic driver is a neat idea but the interface is a completely different from anything else out there and takes some getting used to.

what about just a basic screwdriver like this? its just a drill with an adjustable clutch and a 1/4" hex chuck instead of Jacobs.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-4-in-Hex-Screwdriver-Kit-with-1-1-5Ah-Battery-and-Charger-2401-21B/305696522

theres also a beefier brushless model.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-4-in-Hex-2-Speed-Screwdriver-Kit-W-2-2-0h-Batteries-Hard-Case-2402-22/203835503

[Anonymous No.1558018]

OP, why exactly screw driver, not cordless 12V drill?

[Anonymous No.1558020]

>>1557772
a proper impact driver seems like a better option at this point, this M12 Fuel model has close to 150nm and is only 5" long.

[Beppu No.1558041]

>>1557807
The 12V tools are 3 cells, 7.4V is 2 cells. Good cells can put out a lot of current so it’s mostly dependent on the motor they put in there.

[Anonymous No.1558044]

>>1558041
Well, I think they use identical cells, so from 12V you can pull more power, since voltage is higher.
I think it boils down to reduction, not motor.

[Anonymous No.1558050]

i wanted to say get a minifix, but hes right
>>1557806
if you dont need torque clutch get a ixo

[Beppu No.1558088]

>>1558018
>>1558020
The drill or the M12 screwdriver might work as long as the trigger isn’t too sensitive, assuming the ol’ guy needs an electric screwdriver for health reasons. If that’s the case, that M12 Fuel impact is probably a bad idea if the guy is trying to change the batteries in his remote with the thing.

[Anonymous No.1558135]

>>1558044
voltage is speed amps is torque

[Anonymous No.1558137]

>>1557994
Many new impacts come with a speed control button now if you have trouble not squeezing the trigger as hard as you can or not at all.

[Anonymous No.1558141]

>>1558135
It is slightly more complicated that this, but in general yeah.

[Anonymous No.1558142]

>>1558137
Impacts still don't have toque limiter.

[Beppu No.1558148]

>>1558137
Meh, the 3-speed switches coming on newer impacts still aren’t great if you want a slow speed and more precision. You’re still going to get the impact, the force of which isn’t totally dependent on the speed. The hammer, anvil, and spring are still the same even with less power going to the motor.

[Anonymous No.1558207]

>>1558020
Depends on if he plans on using drillbits with it....

[Anonymous No.1558212]

>>1557957
These are pretty much a godsend for electricians finishing out houses.. easier to not screw up coverplates on outlets.. the wiha one in particular isn’t designed to drive the screw all the way just to run the slack up quickly then you tighten it the last half turn manually to where you want it.

[Anonymous No.1558214]

>>1557631
First time I’ve ever posted it mate.. also the wiha has a trigger ring instead of the gyroscopic on off.. and yeah it’s expensive as hell.

[Beppu No.1558231]

>>1558214
Meant OP... he posted the same question in another thread.

Is bretty cool that it runs off straight 18650s instead of an overpriced pack with two cells that costs 10x what it should.

[Anonymous No.1558243]

>>1558231
>bretty cool

this has to end. bretty gud. bretty cool.
stop it now. or i will bite your arm off

[Beppu No.1558247]

>>1558243
At least you can’t bite off my nipple because that thing is long gone. Thirsty bitches I tell ya.

[Anonymous No.1558572]

>>1558207
just get some hex drive drill bits then.

[Anonymous No.1558605]

>>1558050
that's just a rebranded milwaukee

[Anonymous No.1558616]

>>1558605
its a Panasonic

[Anonymous No.1558640]

>>1558616
>>1558605
>>1558050

[Anonymous No.1558877]

>>1558616
>2012
>still downloading thumbnails

[Anonymous No.1559079]

>>1558572
It’s not an issue of getting the bits to fit the impact, it’s about not wanting the impact to grab and shatter a drillbit...

[Anonymous No.1559080]

>>1558605
Damn that’s a blast from the past.. my dad had a few of these when I was like 10.. we used them on model trains... I’m now 31

[Anonymous No.1559320]

>>1559079
just use Milwaukee Shockwave bits instead of harbor freight junk and they wont shatter from a little bit of torque.

[Anonymous No.1559367]

>>1558877
>1/16 file size
it served its purpose

[Anonymous No.1559451]

>>1558616
Panasonic 78$

Weidmüller 178$

[DeWalt Lifer No.1559593]

>>1559320
>not getting HF impact bits
Anyway I always thought the design was to protect the fasteners, not the bits. The impact bits absorb some of the shock so you don’t snap the head off half the screws. Regular bits hold up but not the screws.

[Anonymous No.1559601]

>>1559320
Till Grampa puts a spade bit in it and breaks a wrist...

[Anonymous No.1559605]

>>1559593
Talking about using a drillbit in an impact..

[Anonymous No.1559610]

>>1557370

https://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-8-Volt-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Rechargeable-3-8-in-Drill-with-Charger-BDCD8C/206140037

a drill driver is better and this one charges off USB so no fucking around with other power sources

yea it's a black dicker but i have one and it's pretty solid

[DeWalt Lifer No.1559611]

>>1559605
How? Unless you stick some 1/4” hex to chuck adapter, regular bits aren’t going to fit.

>>1559601
See above. And if you put a spade in an impact driver, probably less of a chance old man will spin the thing around than a regular drill.

[Anonymous No.1559636]

>>1559611
Google...

[Anonymous No.1559637]

>>1559611
Is..

[Anonymous No.1559641]

>>1559611
Hard...


And from personal experience with the spade bit in an impact vs normal driver the normal driver is a lot easier to use with one.. the impact bounces as soon as it starts to bind and the shaking makes it bind worse

[DeWalt Lifer No.1559649]

>>1559636
I know they exist, but the cheapo HF bits you’re referring to aren’t hex shank like that.

>>1559637
Those wouldn’t lock into an impact

>>1559641
And I like the hex shanks because I hate when bits slip in the chuck, but I don’t understand why anybody would willingly use an impact to drill holes. I guess if it’s the only thing available... that was my thinking when I got that Shockwave set with the drill bits. But it was mostly so I could grab one bit case if I needed to go help old lady down the street hang some new blinds or shelving unit. I think if I had to drill + drive with one tool, I would grab a drill over an impact.

[Anonymous No.1560335]

>>1559649
You think the bit not locking is gonna stop someone from trying it? If it’s 1/4 inch hex you can shove it in an impact.. just because it falls out if you point the bit down doesn’t mean it won’t start drilling when your pressing it into wood.

[Anonymous No.1560341]

>>1559649
... google is still hard apparently...

[Beppu No.1560358]

>>1560335
Jesus christ.

>>1560341
Good luck. Love how that Ti coating goes down 60% of the bit on some, 80% on others.

[Anonymous No.1560445]

>>1560358
No fucking duh they’re not quality bits. But seriously it takes 1 google search to prove they exist.. big thoughts people...