ITT: nice diy things americans cant have

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552002]

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552004]

concrete stairs

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552008]

preformed sidecurbs

[Anonymous No.1552016]

>>1552002
>>1552004
>>1552008
2/10 you put a little effort in but those efforts are wasted

[Anonymous No.1552022]

>>1552004
i trust the forms their made of more than the steps themselves

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552037]

roof that you dont have to change after 10 years

>>1552022
>i trust the forms their made of more than the steps themselves

for real? that is reinforced concrete bro

[Buca Di Beppo No.1552038]

>>1552037
I have the same tile roof on my house. Git gud nigger.

[Contractor No.1552044]

>>1552002
>>1552008
>>1552037

We have these things.
Ohio alone has 3 factories that make the terra cotta block and roof tiles, only 2 that I know make the precast curbs.

>>1552004
Literally in every commercial or high-density residential building.

So, how about you not talk out of your ass on something you know nothing about?

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552047]

>>1552044
>Literally in every commercial or high-density residential building.

...

[Anonymous No.1552054]

>>1552002
self respect

[Anonymous No.1552069]

>>1552037
>Expensive as fuck to replace after half the tiles get shattered by hail every 3 years

[Contractor No.1552071]

>>1552047

You do know that NO ONE builds stairs like that, but yes wood stairs are built in SINGLE FAMILY detached homes.

My point still stands, in Commercial or APARTMENT/CONDO buildings, the stairs are either site poured concrete, or concrete capped steel.

So, how about you stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.1552073]

>>1552002
Are you still LARPing as an expert in moisture control or have you given up on that?

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552074]

>>1552054
>self respect

why would you say that?

>>1552071
Im just playing around

>the stairs are either site poured concrete,

like this >>1552004 with a rc net ?

>or concrete capped steel.

can you redpill me on that? We use RC nets almost always. pic rel

>>1552073
>Are you still LARPing as an expert in moisture control or have you given up on that?

sorry, still an expert on moisture control. Tyvek is gay.

>>1552069
>>Expensive as fuck to replace after half the tiles get shattered by hail every 3 years

how? Noone had problems with terra roofs...

[Anonymous No.1552075]

>>1552074
>still an expert on moisture control.
You don’t even know what vapor pressure means

[Anonymous No.1552076]

>>1552074
Oldest roof in the world is metal. Steel is objectively, unequivocally the best bang for your buck roofing material available. You don’t know what that means though because you don’t understand how much things cost.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552080]

>>1552076
>Oldest roof in the world is metal.

you wat?

>Steel is objectively, unequivocally the best bang for your buck roofing material available.

Steel roofs are solid, but steel is very bad for framing.

>>1552075
>You don’t even know what vapor pressure means

well you dont even have a red aerated terracota brick

[Anonymous No.1552081]

>>1552037
say that in hail country pal lol fucking faggot

[Contractor No.1552084]

>>1552074
>can you redpill me on that? We use RC nets almost always. pic rel

Steel pan stairs. About 80% of the staircase is steel, the other 20% is a lightweight concrete mix for the treads for durability and slip resistance.

>how? Noone had problems with terra roofs...

terracotta roofs are a bitch to work on. We in the States in 1 season can get:
>golf ball size hail stones
>80 MPH (128 kmh) sheer wind gusts
> cold -30 F (-34 C) temperature
>few days later can be 60 F (15 C) degrees

In my experience terracotta roofs have to be worked on and repaired every few years, to great expense.

[Contractor No.1552086]

>>1552080
>well you dont even have a red aerated terracota brick

Uh, yes, we do have clay blocks, I live like 60 miles from the factory that makes these.
House I live in, built in 1900, is built from them.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552090]

>>1552081
>say that in hail country pal lol fucking faggot

what is the problem faggot? you just cement them to the concrete roof. done.

>>1552084
>Steel pan stairs. About 80% of the staircase is steel, the other 20% is a lightweight concrete mix for the treads for durability and slip resistance.

This is a very rare system here or maybe I havent noticed it...it does seem interesting. Is it prone to cracking?

>my experience terracotta roofs have to be worked on and repaired every few years, to great expense.

Idk people here dont have much problem even with way faster winds and coastal storms, either way, steel roof is always a better option that asphalt shingles.

[Anonymous No.1552103]

>>1552002
This is a shit tier building material because you have to pour concrete lintels and beams anyways. Might as well do core filled CMU or regular brick.

Also, lol at concrete stairs in a residential home, that’s brutalist as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1552210]

>>1552090
yeah... thats not how they are actually installed

[Anonymous No.1552239]

>>1552002
But I have seen all this shit in the US. Now I have not seen much of pic related tbhqqfam

[Anonymous No.1552252]

247 x 500 x 249 mm
U=0,11 W/m2K
R=9,19 m2K/W

If you use this, you have passive energy house. Material will last for centuries.

Have not seen these in US. What they have are basic bricks with very bad R and U values, while we have optimized their structure so we could get best out of everything which is durability, bearing capacity and energy savings.

[Anonymous No.1552255]

Also triple glazing, which is pretty much standard nowadays in Europe. Hardly any in the US, they are still a rare thing there.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552259]

>>1552210
>yeah... thats not how they are actually installed

there are levels in terra tiles, this kind of stuff never happens here, those were probably some low quality ones, but whatever you do dont use asphalt, go steel roof if in doubt

>>1552086
>Uh, yes, we do have clay blocks

Ive never seen them in USA construction, only the basid solid ones for veneering, not the big ones with air gaps

>>1552252
I see foam in it, I decline. It will deteriorate eventually.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552261]

>opening a window to the world and all of the amazing things to discover

[Anonymous No.1552263]

>>1552259
>there are levels in terra tiles, this kind of stuff never happens here, those were probably some low quality ones, but whatever you do dont use asphalt, go steel roof if in doubt

steel gets beat to shit too when golfball sized hail comes down... interesting thing I recently learned after my roof was done last year, golfball sized hail tends to do more damage than some baseball sized hail because the bigger they get usually is slushier and tends to softens the impact... not that it wouldnt still kill you, just might not destroy as much.

not many people are going to put concrete on their roofs because the added weight makes it so you have to over engineer the rest of the structure to support the snow loads here and its just not cost effective

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1552266]

>>1552263
>steel gets beat to shit too when golfball sized hail comes down

true, thing is Ive rarely saw terras braking even in bad conditions at sea, it must be in the quality of the terras.

[Anonymous No.1552270]

>>1552266
or you know solid ice hitting thin concrete or clay at 100+mph fucking shit up... I mean even the concrete walls have impact marks

[Anonymous No.1552277]

>>1552037
>roof that you dont have to change after 10 years
10 years is longer than the average time span between two civil wars in the balkans

[Anonymous No.1552296]

>>1552263
>steel gets beat to shit too when golfball sized hail comes down

the difference is that clay tiles shatter upon impact, steel just gets a dent in it.

[Anonymous No.1552310]

>>1552259
>there are levels in terra tiles, this kind of stuff never happens here, those were probably some low quality ones, but whatever you do dont use asphalt, go steel roof if in doubt
We have hail storms here that will total a fucking car. If steel sheet and tempered glass can't hold up to it, your little clay bricks won't either.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554244]

>outer diagonal roller shutters
>any kind of roller shutter

I call out over design and gimmicks any time, but double/tripple pane windows, tilt&turn window opening and shutters are GODSENT. Forget about light shading, sound systems and other gimmicky crap, yanks, invest in good window systems.

Another issue is safety, shutters provide a safety benefit so no craigslist criminal can peek into your house and its harder to break into shutters (even non anti-theft systems create problems for burglers as do 2x or 3x windows panels).

Seriously bros, get your window game already, its not a gimmick.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554249]

EURO
POWER

[Contractor No.1554257]

>>1554244
We in the States have these.
We call them Hurricane Shutters.
Found literally all over the Southern Part of the US that get's hurricane weather.

Not much use for that kind of shutter in other parts of the US.

For example I'm in Ohio.
We have Tornados.
Shutters just get ripped off from buildings in a tornado and become more dangerous flying debris.
How strong is a tornado?
My house survived a tornado in the 60's and a bird feather was shot like a bullet through a solid oak 100 year old door and embedded into the oak trim on the other side of the hallway.

So... yeah... those shutters we have those, but not useful outside of certain parts of the country.

Also, if a craigslist criminal is peeking into windows he's going to get shot. 1 just happened the other day.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554260]

EUROPEAN LUXURY!
YOU JELLY!!!????

>>1554257
>Also, if a craigslist criminal is peeking into windows he's going to get shot. 1 just happened the other day.

I was listening to "craigslist horror stories" on yt, and every time a stalker watches trough windows on the ground level, and kids are hiding not to be seen...I was like how? then I figured most of you dont have shutters.

Shutters dont give much chance against hurricanes unless heavily reinforced, but even then you have bigger problems, but against burglary, they act very preventive (create noise when being broken in, he cant see you when you are sleeeping, it very hard to see even a trace of light when completly closed etc.). + its great to tilt them outside in the summer with opened windows to cool

[Contractor No.1554263]

>>1554260
>but against burglary, they act very preventive (create noise when being broken in, he cant see you when you are sleeeping, it very hard to see even a trace of light when completly closed etc.).

The thing is, the people most likely to get burglarized in the USA are also the people least likely to be able to afford the shutters.
Burglaries are a crime done by poor people, against other poor people in the poor parts of the cities.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554265]

>>1554263
>The thing is, the people most likely to get burglarized in the USA are also the people least likely to be able to afford the shutters.

I guess its cultural differences in build style, shutters, tilts and double pane windows here are simply standard on all houses and apartments. Add ons are often expensive so that might inflate the price of them in USA.

another point about burglary, since euro windows have more hinges (it usually goes all the way around) its almost impossible to break in quitely but you have to opt for smashing the glass which happens rarely since it creates too much noise - home burglers here are usually pros which use more sophisticated methods and rob with a plan.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554318]

>>1554265
>another point about burglary, since euro windows have more hinges (it usually goes all the way around) its almost impossible to break in quitely but you have to opt for smashing the glass which happens rarely since it creates too much noise - home burglers here are usually pros which use more sophisticated methods and rob with a plan.

USE EURO MAGIC WINDOW
PREVENT BURGLARY
YOU BHAI YENKEE BHOI YOU NO WAIT

[Anonymous No.1554334]

>>1554318
most burglaries happen through the front door

[Anonymous No.1554517]

>>1552008

Get this, we have paving machines that can make curbs that can conform to a perimeter even if it's curved. The curb in the pic looks like homemade shit desu.

[Anonymous No.1554558]

>At home

[Anonymous No.1554567]

>>1554334
Can confirm.
>been reckless, got robbed, still think I deserved it

[Milwaukee !ShlRJ3wGuk No.1554598]

>>1552037

QUE

TACO EL BANJO

JAJAJAJA

[Anonymous No.1554612]

>>1554260
We have shutters but they’re for looks. I get triggered since most of them aren’t used but at the same time most of these houses would look ugly without them. I like your windows and shutters. Practical and I like the functionality of them.

[Anonymous No.1554653]

>>1554612
>Practical and I like the functionality of them.

The thing about real shutters is they look wrong when they are open, because the slats direct rain onto the house. Fake shutters always look right, assuming they are installed correctly.

And then you have pic-related. I've painted hundreds of houses, and I've never seen adjustable exterior shutters. Two or three paint jobs and they won't be adjustable any more.

[Anonymous No.1554667]

>>1552008
Sharp corner curbs are fucking awful. They do that in Albequerque and it means that every turn you make in/out of a parking lot or at an intersection is a sharp 90-degree one, and that means you can't accelerate while turning.
Couple that with a 45mph speed limit and you end up having to wait longer to enter traffic because you have less room and less time to merge.

Shit sucks. Radiused curbs are infinitely better. And for most parts of the country they need to be poured onsite with the terrain variations AND correct street drainage in mind.

Your threads suck and you're retarded.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554670]

>>1554517
>we have paving machines that can make curbs that can conform to a perimeter even if it's curved.

if its on site made its crap durability wise.

>The curb in the pic looks like homemade shit desu.

the corner isnt impressive looking, but fluffy shit is for euros, are you an eurofag?

>>1554612
>>1554653
>We have shutters but they’re for looks.

those are good, some regions here have the same system, its very reliable compared to roller shutter than can get clogged and get stuck. How do you mean just for looks? You can adjust the angle of shutter with them which helps with sun.

pic rel - similar system of non rolling shutter, one is with a tilt, but its actually rare for traditional shutters to have tilts

But regarding potential safety and practicallity roller shutters with tilt have much use.

>>1554667
>Shit sucks. Radiused curbs are infinitely better. And for most parts of the country they need to be poured onsite with the terrain variations AND correct street drainage in mind.

I dont see ONE curb in your picture, just on site poured concrete. That shit simply wont last, but hey, it keeps jobs for the unions. Preformed curbs are infinetly more durable and grantie curbs are even more which still last afte 100 years. Regarding radiuses, you can make it with a preformed curb also, its called masonry.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554672]

>>1554653
>>1554612
pic rel is a more common system, the inner operating mechanism is notorious for failing and made out of cheap plastic. Rest of the mechanism is OK.

[Anonymous No.1554691]

Everything posted ITT so far exists in America. It may be regional, or not a super popular option, but it all exists.

[Anonymous No.1554709]

Listen here kid.

We are in AMERICA. We have to deal with:

>Drought
>Frost
>Gators
>Tornadoes
>Blizzards
>Mountain Lions
>Earthquakes
>Volcanoes
>Hurricanes
>Black widows
>Floods
>Avalanches
>Bears
>Hail
>Tsunami's
>Diamond backs
>Thermal expansion
>Landslides
>Meteorites
>Heat waves
>Cold spells
>Lightning storms

All the time. You think you know how to build? Think again. America is a country of progress through hard work, blood and sweat. No one else can build like we do. We are a nation of greatness and we are able to survive anyone of the above without damage. You may laugh at our houses, but those houses are peak performance buildings.

So fuck off of our American website and go back to staring at your box of Goya string beans you Brazilian lady boys.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1554749]

>>1554709
>No one else can build like we do. We are a nation of greatness and we are able to survive anyone of the above without damage. You may laugh at our houses, but those houses are peak performance buildings.

finally, a fellow memer!

[Anonymous No.1554795]

>>1554318
>home burglars are usually pros

Not in the US they aren't. They're mostly teen to 20-something junkies looking for anything they can pawn for a fix.

[Anonymous No.1555233]

>>1552002
Saw this article and thought of you, humble croatian
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-13/why-america-s-new-apartment-buildings-all-look-the-same

[Anonymous No.1555254]

>>1552022
>their
I wouldn't trust an illiterate amerifat.

[Anonymous No.1555279]

>>1554558
?

[Anonymous No.1555474]

>>1552004
You've never been to a parking garage?

[Anonymous No.1555991]

Mediterranean countries have shutters

why?? The hot sun, security and privacy

we SHUT our homes from the looks of neighbours and strangers.

[Anonymous No.1555997]

>>1552086
fuck when I was in south america I saw dozens of buildings being made out of these with the sloppiest mortar jobs you can imagine. Latin Americans seem to love these for some reason.

[Anonymous No.1556003]

>>1555997
It's cheap and easy to work with. What more could a monkey desire?

[Anonymous No.1556004]

>>1555991
mediterranean people also think that north americans don't need modern insulation in their homes, just good old clay bricks & timber

[Anonymous No.1556009]

>>1556003
>monkeys
fuck off back to /pol/. I'll clarify that I was in southern Chile and Argentina where everyone is white and has names like O'Connell and Schmidt.

[Anonymous No.1556014]

>>1556009
You say that because you don't live with this bunch of retards. I myself live in a home like the ones I posted here >>1556003.

NIGGERS don't care about anything other than having sex and screwing things up. They don`t care about how dirty, ugly or stinky something is.

>Chile and Argentina
Way better places than Brazil. Nuke us, please.

[Anonymous No.1556023]

>>1552037
This is the same kind of garbage we use in Brazil

[Anonymous No.1556025]

>>1556023
It's not garbage. Works just fine and looks nice.

[Anonymous No.1556026]

>>1552004
Also common in Brazil, but people don't have the proper IQ to do them, so they make them with 30cm tall 15 cm deep steps

>>1552086
Same thing available in Brazil. This is also rubbish.

>>1555997
>Latin Americans seem to love these for some reason
Because all it takes is stacking them with mortar, but some are too stupid even for that, see this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssnY0h32pUs

>>1556009
>southern Chile
In Chile they make earthquake-proof homes, the average brazilian is incapable of figuring out how to make a roof that isn't destroyed by strong wind

[Anonymous No.1556027]

>>1556025
Maybe it works fine in Croatia, in Brazil it just makes houses extra-hot in the summer

[Anonymous No.1556031]

>>1556026
Fucking lol that video. Couldn't even mimic the brick pattern right next door.

[Anonymous No.1556036]

Holy shit the worst thread I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.1556056]

>>1552255
Have you been to Minnesota?
Triple pane glass windows are the go-to for new construction from the twin cities north

[Anonymous No.1556059]

>>1552004
Aye, Croatia bro. Still processing the insulation-condensation relationship from a month or two ago.
Concrete - I tore up and redid my bathroom (Us, circa 1960) which had a 2" concrete subfloor.
Been kicking around the idea of doing that when I replace my main floor wood flooring.
Cheap, no creaks, and soundproof.
Went over to my inlaws house (McMansion circa 2010 - 5 bedroom, 2 occupants) over the holidays. The humidity was so low, when I stepped on one corner, the whole flooring sunk and snapped as loud as a .22.

[Anonymous No.1556062]

>>1556059
>i sink into and snap floors
just how fat are you

[Anonymous No.1556071]

>>1556062
180lb, 85kg
Truly took me for surprise. We were standing all around and everyone paused and asked 'wtf?'.
Inlaws paid $12K for new hardwood floors in 1/3 of the main floor a few years ago. New wood seems to be shittier and shittier.

[Anonymous No.1556073]

>>1556062
>sink into
I suppose I should clarify it wasn't much of a fall, maybe a 1/8", but anytime you fall while standing in the middle of the floor with noises, it tends to not come with cheers.
The house doesn't have a humidifier since the original one failed a few years in.

[Anonymous No.1556157]

>>1554257
>My house survived a tornado in the 60's and a bird feather was shot like a bullet through a solid oak 100 year old door and embedded into the oak trim on the other side of the hallway
Sure buddy. Did you clap?

[Anonymous No.1556171]

>>1552037
LMAO at anything other than the chad Australian steel roof.

[Anonymous No.1556190]

>>1552037
Lived in an apartment in Kansas that had these. You can also get metal roofs here too or glass if you have the money.

[Anonymous No.1556191]

>>1554249
Japanese houses can come with sliding metal doors on their windows too. So don't feel too special.

[Anonymous No.1556202]

>>1556171
>colourbond
disgusting

[Anonymous No.1556206]

>>1554257
These storm shutters arent common in the west, as far as I know (California fag.) First thing I thought when I saw these was "oooh, purge windows huehue," merely for security

[Anonymous No.1556211]

>>1554260
>>1554263
>>1554265
>>1554318
>>1554795
agreed about the poor, usually kids or junkies looking to steal easy shit from your backyard (garden) like tools, bikes, portable valuables.
we had those iron bars growing up (pic related.) Unsightly as fuck but they felt safe. Then I saw a news report where a screw driver can easily jimmy the fire safety lever. What I'm getting at is that those euro shutters look cool.

[Anonymous No.1556217]

[Anonymous No.1556277]

>>1556211
>windows safety grills
You mean BBQ grills right?

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1556315]

>>1555233
>Saw this article and thought of you, humble croatian

glad I could help anon! So those apartments in the article with beautiful masonry outer have a stick frame+osb!??? Mental, what a waste of skillfull work, not to mention a safety hazzard since nothing loads the masonry from the top.

>>1556003
>>1555997
>south america I saw dozens of buildings being made out of these

theirs are half the thickness of continental euro version so the walls are very unstable.

>>1556027
>Maybe it works fine in Croatia, in Brazil it just makes houses extra-hot in the summer

Terras are best for keeping it cool, it shoulndt happen. what kind of roofing do you use to lay the terra on? One Brazil anon also mentioned to me that you have foundation problems also even after doing deep foundation, is that true?

>>1556026
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssnY0h32pUs

ayy, at least she is working...

>>1556059
>Aye, Croatia bro. Still processing the insulation-condensation relationship from a month or two ago.
>Concrete - I tore up and redid my bathroom (Us, circa 1960) which had a 2" concrete subfloor.

hey whats up? So you are doing a concrete floor on a house that had a wooden one, that is ambitios, but carefull with that if the original isnt concrete. I have a proton "wwa2" so feel free to ask for advice there if the project start getting complex, but be carefull with using concrete on bigger projects since setting in periods are tricky.

>>1556171
>chad Australian steel roof.

Steel roofs are almost as Chad as slate ones, good job Bruce!

>>1556211
>Then I saw a news report where a screw driver can easily jimmy the fire safety lever.

They look like they are mounted from outside so obvious safety issues unless its masoned into the wall - functional for safety but horrid looking. Good option for safety also is using just a regular euro style window with 4 points of locking which arent easy to brake in.

[Anonymous No.1556427]

>>1552002
>another thread made by a butthurt croat couch-mason

[Anonymous No.1556552]

I would like to have a big titted american girl. Here in europe it's quite rare.
Also refill at fast food

[Anonymous No.1556573]

>>1552037
My roof is 120 years old. Never been replaced. In older US cities construction can be high quality. Once the jews took over it all went downhill.

[Anonymous No.1556600]

>>1552239
We have cement ties on main lines and river crossings depending on the owner of the tracks. 99% of rail yards will have wooden ties though. All based on the ease of access and area traffic for the necessity of cement ties based off their material cost and specialty installment.

[Anonymous No.1556823]

>>1552076
Steel is the best bang for your buck because it sounds like your inside a fucking drum in a heavy rainstorm god forbid it hails

[Anonymous No.1557377]

>>1554257
How do you know the feather was from a bird?

[Contractor No.1557406]

>>1557377
>How do you know the feather was from a bird?

Please repeat those words, out loud. But Slowly.

Then smack yourself in the face for being a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.1557414]

>>1557406

It was a pretty good question son. I take it you're far too young to remember the show Columbo. Every week he'd ask something weird like that looking like pic-related, and the guilty suspect would over react JUST LIKE YOU DID ADMIT IT YOU RAPED THE BIRD.

[Anonymous No.1557423]

>>1557414
That was more Murder She Wrote, Columbo always had "One more thing", so they'd have this congenial conversation where the criminal thinks he's duping Columbo and leading Columbo to believe their innocence/throw them off the scent. But then there'd be that "One more thing..." where he'd catch them in a lie, because Columbo was not so stupid. Sometimes this would cause the suspect to do something that eventually incriminated themselves, but not always and it generally wasn't an overreaction. The best one imo is with Leonard Nimoy who plays a wonderful psychopathic surgeon.

[Anonymous No.1557425]

>>1556823
When it hails is when your steel roof pays for itself. Yeah, there are some dents, but that’s it. No cracked shingles or tiles, no smashed up roof sheathing.

[Anonymous No.1557432]

>>1557425
insurance pays for shingles and sheathing, they dont pay to fix dents so you're stuck with a dinged up roof unless you put your own money into it

[Anonymous No.1557435]

>>1557432
You got a zero deductible policy?

[Anonymous No.1557440]

>>1554691
It exists, but you cannot have it.

[Anonymous No.1557627]

>>1557425
Had hail, never had issues with my shingles. Hell even had a fucking tornado go within 300 feet of the house and didn’t damage the asphalt shingles. It was an ef-1 which isn’t too bad compared to the serious bullshit they get in the flat states, but still strong enough to rip off some roofs and stole my neighbors shed... cheap metal one... found it in the backyard of the neighbors across the street...

[Anonymous No.1557703]

>>1554709
>We are a nation of greatness and we are able to survive anyone of the above without damage
Those wood neighbourhoods in the midwest sure hold up well against tornadoes huh?

[Contractor No.1557748]

>>1557703
>Those wood neighbourhoods in the midwest sure hold up well against tornadoes huh?

Actually, yes, they do as a wood house can move and deflect itself in the high winds, and then afterwards the rebuilding with a wood house is much easier.

Brick or stone? In a tornado those buildings collapse.

It's okay, you're just another Euro-tard that doesn't understand American climate and just how destructive tornadoes are.

[Humble croatian red aerated te(...) No.1557800]

>>1557748
look like the roof collapsed and brought down the rest of small brick masonry with it.

Reinforced concrete beams are excellent for quakes btw

[Anonymous No.1557802]

>>1557800
>look like the roof collapsed and brought down the rest of small brick masonry with it.

Possibly. But it's also the power of a American Tornado, that you're underestimating.

[Anonymous No.1557804]

Superior 230V electricity.
Imagine being able to pull 3600W from one ordinary socket, which is located in every room.
Amazing.

No need for 20A sockets and other rubbish.

[Anonymous No.1557805]

Sorry, but what does any of this have to do with Americans? Why are you so obsessed with what they're doing?

You don't have to use Americans as a frame of reference for everything, you know.

[Anonymous No.1557810]

Europoors will never understand, how it feels to rewire entire house without hammer drill and concrete cutter.

[Anonymous No.1557813]

>>1557804
I've traveled outside of America frequently and interacted with various types of outlets.

They're pretty much all more dangerous and unreliable than American sockets. American sockets are considered the gold standard and the most modern means of bringing electricity to the consumer. Other countries just can't afford to update their infrastructure. Which is okay. But there's no reason to pretend that those old-fashioned sockets are superior.

Everyone knows they're not.

[Anonymous No.1557818]

>>1557813
US Sockets
>Arcs
>Loose grip over time
>110V, inferior voltage that can't even kill, unless you cut your skin

EU sockets
>Always tight, just like in first time
>16A, one amp more, than inferior american socket.
>230V, superior voltage, since it will kill you if you don't respect it.

[Anonymous No.1557820]

>>1557813
>American sockets are considered the gold standard and the most modern means of bringing electricity to the consumer.
bahahahahahahahha
hahahahahahahaha
Do americans really believe this? kek


BS 1363 is literally the gold standard
Then Schuko

[Anonymous No.1557825]

>>1557820
Fuck BS 1363, Chiletatian masterrace.
>Easy on feet
>16A (not inferior 13 britcuck amps)
>Fits in US socket boxes
>Symmetrical, looks mad

[Anonymous No.1557828]

>>1557820
This looks like something that would have burned down a lot of soviet shacks.

[Anonymous No.1557835]

>>1557820
>he thinks something from the 1940s is modern

[Anonymous No.1557842]

>>1557825
>Symmetrical, looks mad
symmetrical is a bug, not a feature

[Anonymous No.1557847]

>>1557828
It did.

It powered the machines that blew up communism.

>>1557835
>modern
Who said it was modern.

[Anonymous No.1557863]

>>1557847
Also a pleasure to step on

[Anonymous No.1557902]

>>1556823

That's only if you have no cieling.

[Anonymous No.1558010]

>>1557813
>They're pretty much all more dangerous and unreliable than American sockets.
Stuff like the 'key polisher' meme and other American electrics shit is honestly confusing for most Euros because our sockets are inherently safer than the US ones. You can't just stick a fork or key in one.

[Anonymous No.1558011]

>>1557842
It is feature. It forces houses to have proper ground.

[Anonymous No.1558015]

>>1557820
>Anal ring circuit, instead of reliable simple connection
>32A breaker

Sounds like house fire to me.

[Anonymous No.1558108]

>>1554670
>if its on site made its crap durability wise.

When you have a kajillion miles of roadway they're getting hit before they can get old anyway.

[Anonymous No.1558213]

>>1552261
>>opening a window to the world and all of the amazing things to discover

>looks right into neighbors window

Pass

[Anonymous No.1558269]

>>1557804
Really good when your wife needs to run her vibrator in every room of the house...

[Anonymous No.1558272]

>>1558269
You really think puritanism is the reason for shitty US outlets?

[Anonymous No.1558273]

>>1558010
To be fair this is also a purposeful design feature meant to weed out anyone who is stupid enough to put a key in a socket...

[Anonymous No.1558281]

>>1558272
No, but I’d love to know why you need 3600w in each room.. do you walk around with an electric kettle and an arc light? You know we here in the civilized world drink iced tea... not your scalding water with milk.

[Anonymous No.1558283]

>>1558281
>No, but I’d love to know why you need 3600w in each room.. do you walk around with an electric kettle and an arc light?
And yet Europeans still use, on average, half the electrical energy per capita of our American friends.

[Anonymous No.1558285]

>>1558281
BTW, you absolutely could not have 3.6kW in each room. I think most sockets max out at around 2 or 2.5 kW, but that's a ridiculous load for most domestic stuff, that sort of power gets a dedicated ring.

[Anonymous No.1558286]

>>1558283
Till you get a distribution network that could support it that’s probably not gonna change. Also our nice modern homes have this wonderful invention called central air and a furnace.. used more power but offers a significant improvment over “huddling before the hearth” in winter and “just accepting the fact that you won’t be comfortable because your melting” in the summer.

[Anonymous No.1558288]

>>1558285
Do you guys not have each room on it’s own breaker? Most over here have 1 per room unless it’s a kitchen or larger room then it could have 2 or more. Actually curious not trying to be a dick with this question

[Anonymous No.1558289]

>>1558286
Most houses here are built to not need insane levels of heating and cooling broheim.

[Anonymous No.1558291]

>>1558288
>Do you guys not have each room on it’s own breaker?
No, it's typically each floor has a ring for lights and a ring for plug sockets. High load stuff often has a dedicated ring, sometimes the kitchen can get its own one because white goods, electric water heaters typically have a separate one, that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.1558292]

>>1558291
BTW, I did see one 4-floor house recently with 3 breakers, which is both not normal and in that case illegal.

[Anonymous No.1558295]

>>1558289
Or your just used to having a British stuff upper lip and not being comfortable

[Anonymous No.1558297]

>>1558295
The UK tends to go for natural gas heating wise, it's not tied to the electrical grid so much. Some homes do use electricity, but it tends to be council houses.

[Anonymous No.1558302]

>>1558292
I’ve been in some old houses here (old in US terms so like 60-100 years) with some crazy terrible fuse boxes.. but that’s usually because of decades of diy electric repairs... I do appliance repair.. had a dryer a while back that wasn’t getting 220.. asked the customer where the breaker box was because I was curious... this is what they had.. house looked like someone threw three houses together slowly over the last 50 years...

[Anonymous No.1558303]

>>1558297
In the states it depends on where you are... generally speaking the southern half uses heat pumps with emergency electric heat.. in the north you get gas and sometimes oil in the country.. getting more geothermal but that generally uses a heat pump anyway

[Anonymous No.1558306]

>>1558302
It was a place I was looking at renting. This was newly done, I assume they'd got someone dodgy as hell in and just expanded everything onto already existing circuits as they'd clearly converted the basement and attic recently. I think regs wise you can smoosh all the lighting and plugs onto a breaker each, but the guidelines will normally say you want more depending on floor area, the obvious problem was them running a water heater and an electric stove, whatever configuration you have you need more than 3 breakers for that. The letting agent/realtor (?) showing me around got very shirty with me, but that was more me pointing out the single glazing that was everywhere except the attic conversion. They ended up demanding several months rent in advance and insisting I earnt enough that buying the damn house would have been much cheaper. Very weird, I think it may have been their house.

On another viewing: nice letting agent, but somebody had bodged some gas piping in the basement (this is beyond rare, gas regs are for obvious reasons v strict) and one of the bodged pipes had completely come loose. Couldn't smell any gas so triple checked I was really seeing what I was seeing, but then just left immediately and told the guy the problem.

My aunt somehow still manages to have a ridiculously old real fuse-wire fuse box herself, I have never seen another one anywhere else. I like houses that have been built up over time generally though, so long as shit gets sorted out.

[Anonymous No.1558314]

>>1552002
I don't know why but I think these are not every popular in the US.

[Anonymous No.1558322]

>>1558314
for the same reason very few products are actually international.
Europe only seems international because you share a border and there are no tariffs. No different from the continental US from a trade perspective.
When was the last time you saw an imported American-made product in a European store?
In America, the only widespread imported European products are cheese, pasta, canned fish, and a limited set of cars.

[Anonymous No.1558655]

>>1557802
>But it's also the power of a American Tornado, that you're underestimating.

Im not underestimating it, we had houses that still stand after they were shot by tanks in war, your pic features an on site formed sidecurd with is less strong that a preformed and was probably on its way out when you look at other parts of it rotting as well. Still, we dont have those kind of tornados, but RC beamed houses would deal well with it (as would a legit timber frame).

>>1557804
>Superior 230V electricity.

I dont know much about home electricity, is euro system really superior or its just about the plug difference

>>1558322
>When was the last time you saw an imported American-made product in a European store?

Snap-on here is the gold standard with airplane mechanics, but anything aside from super high end is German made. Some people own american hammers, but that is more for show of, it isnt as popular within common folks.

>>1557810
>Europoors will never understand, how it feels to rewire entire house without hammer drill and concrete cutter.

true, but it simply isnt that common of a problem.

[Anonymous No.1558720]

>>1558655
>is euro system really superior or its just about the plug difference
Euro is superior. 220/380V three phase system gives more power, requires thinner wires.

[Anonymous No.1558748]

>>1558720
230/400 retard

[Anonymous No.1558750]

>>1558748
Depends.

[Anonymous No.1558752]

>>1558750
>>1558720
You can get 480V 3ph power in north america.
At least compare apples to apples, forget all this dickwaving about plugs. No residential appliances use 3phase.
>but muh flat's load centre has 3 phases!
Still, no 3phase appliances.

[Anonymous No.1558844]

This confuses Americans, and scares Europoors.

[Anonymous No.1558846]

>>1558752
>480V 3ph
Nice. I'd like to have such voltage at home. But 277 volts is too much.
230/400 (220/380) is perfect.
All fat american heaters and air conditioners can run, on thin wires, unlike 110/220V.

[Anonymous No.1558918]

>>1558844
but we already have that here in america..

>>1558846
you are stupid

>>1558752
you can get 347/600 in some areas (mostly factories)

[Anonymous No.1558958]

>>1558918
>but we already have that here in america..
Do you have steel-framing houses?

[Anonymous No.1558962]

>>1558918
>600V
Can this charge Tesla in 20 minutes?

[Anonymous No.1558975]

>>1558962
yeah go plug it in, I will wait

>>1558958
at times yes, and quite honestly it sucks to wire up because you have to use these shitty little plastic bushings that snap together but fall apart when you pull the wire through it. Seriously its nothing new.

[Anonymous No.1558978]

>>1558975
>at times yes, and quite honestly it sucks to wire up because you have to use these shitty little plastic bushings that snap together but fall apart when you pull the wire through it. Seriously its nothing new.
Why you don't use conduits there?

[Anonymous No.1558983]

>>1552090
>what is the problem faggot? you just cement them to the concrete roof. done.
Many parts of the USA that have climate conditions that would be a good match for terracotta also have hail storms regular enough that would offset the lifespan they would normally have. One of the things many people don't grasp is that there is a right and wrong way for each building based on weather. Some excellent buildings in certain places wouldn't make 20-30 years in others. In the USA lumber buildings are sort of a jack of all trades. They last a fairly long time, are easy to work on and are cheaper than alternatives that may last longer. A wooden building will last generations if it is done correctly. My home was built in the late 1800s, and has had no real work done to the structure. At some point they added electricity and plumbing.

>>1558844
>This confuses Americans
What is so confusing about that? Steel framing. I see this stuff on job sites all the time.

[Anonymous No.1558988]

>>1558978
>Why you don't use conduits there?
It's against the conduitution.

[Anonymous No.1558994]

>>1558978
not required in a dwelling and residential is all about doing it as cheap as possible.

[Anonymous No.1559179]

>>1552255

Vinyl clad aluminum framed low-e coated krypton filled trippled paned glass.

Available in aff 50 states you stupid low effort cocksucker. Not only do you not know shit of windows but you're licking your single pain into disintegration KEK!