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1534655 No.1534655 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

hey, i´m doing a research for aesthetic tools.
We want to design new products for people who have a good sense for aesthetic.
Do you think you would work better on products with better looking tops?

>> No.1534657

This is bad and you should feel bad. You know nothing about function and have no business designing tools. Find problems in bed of solutions, not the other way around.

>> No.1534659

>Do you think you would work better on products with better looking tops?

Oddly enough, the best tools tend to also look nice, and putting more effort into making them into art is a very bad idea, and you should feel bad.

>> No.1534660
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Form follows function. Those are bad designs functionally inferior to the ones you could find in the bargain bin at Walmart. Figure out what a tool is supposed to do, use that to select materials and ergonomics, and THEN figure out what it should look like. If you want to continue this discussion, I assign you the task of identifying three functional deficiencies of that hammer. There are more than that, and I'll even give a pic of a proper hammer, so it should be easy.

>> No.1534664

Ok form follows functions*, because it’s not only the function who is important to the product, it’s always the emotion the product ist carrying.
So image i say, the hammer is for somebody who has a really fine aesthetic sense and really like to work on beautiful product, maybe the person don’t wanna use a hammer which is saying: I am gonna smash your had.
Btw. This hammer at the picture I posted is shit, I know.

>> No.1534665

>Btw. This hammer at the picture I posted is shit, I know.
So give three of the many reasons why, and we may judge you to be worth conversing with.

>> No.1534669

I would buy em. I don’t use my tools anyway.

>> No.1534671

cunt a hammer is a fucking hammer and a screwdriver is a fucking scredriver. You are trying to reinvent the wheel and change something that has worked for literally thousands of years

>> No.1534673

1.) the handle is out of material which is not good to be a handle. Normal hammerhandles are made out of wood, because when you smash something, it’s gonna be hard for you hand
2.) the handle is round and I think your hand is gonna be sweat and it’s gonna be hard to grab the handle when the hands are sweating
3.) the hammer don’t transport the feeling that it’s ok to smash a nail into something

>> No.1534677

You say: just because something never changed, it’s ok to never change them?
Never looking in a other direction.
I think people who work as a jewel designer don’t wanna use hammers like them.

>> No.1534681
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an aesthetic tool is in its usefulness and ease of use.

the least aesethetic tool tool is one that compromises usability and usefulness.

Only purpose is for milking millennials who buy fancy looking shit they never use.

Hammer is fucking garbage. Screwdrivers are fucking garbage. Reason most tools use rubber/wood/plastic for handles and not more steel. Can make up as much fluffy fairy bullshit about compensating for 'impact' when a rubber handle would do x10 more.

holy fuck this website

it's what you get when you take someone who's never worked a day in their lives and have them make fisher price toys.

Tools aren't fucking imaginary mockups in a computer. People actually have to use and rely on them. Stick to designing fashion toys and leave tools for useful people.

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>I would buy em. I don’t use my tools anyway.

pls use your trip when you post stuff that's actually funny.

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>because it’s not only the function who is important to the product, it’s always the emotion the product ist carrying
you're either a girl or gay

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>Ok form follows functions*, because it’s not only the function who is important to the product, it’s always the emotion the product ist carrying.
You're misunderstanding the phrase. "Form follows function" means that the shape and aesthetics of a thing naturally derive from its function. Figure out what something is supposed to do, and the overall aesthetics will present themselves to you as the functional whole is worked out. Superficial detailing can be a part of aesthetic considerations, but it comes after this. And attempting to force aesthetics onto functional parts often results in poor functionality. For example, Louis Sullivan coined that phrase, and he generally had a decent handle on things, but later Modernist architects got too focused on the idea of "machines for living", forgetting that humans have a nature with various social and emotional components that are influenced by the built environment. This resulted in building and community designs that failed on all accounts, from keeping out water to durability to building functional communities to actually being used as intended over the long term.

These tool designs show a lack of understanding of how tools work. What the handle of a screwdriver is for. How a hammer works (look up center of percussion). What the claw is for. Why the face is shaped the way it is.

>So image i say, the hammer is for somebody who has a really fine aesthetic sense and really like to work on beautiful product
If the hammer is actually used, it will get dented, scratched, and dirty. Such things will stick out clearly on a medical-grade steel finish, so the lifetime aesthetic of these tools will be a "beautiful product" that is smudged and scratched, making it looks shabby. Actual hammers made to be used and also made with aesthetic consideration age like antiques, acquiring a worn patina can improve over generations.

>> No.1534712

>3.) the hammer don’t transport the feeling that it’s ok to smash a nail into something
That is not a functional deficiency. As a hint, what do you think about the claw? There are multiple things wrong with it.

>> No.1534714

hahahah the claw on that hammer.
They look "pretty" and those are tools you can proudly display on your coffee table as a conversation piece, as long as they don't get beat up by seeing any actual use.
Perfectly round handles on a screwdriver are annoying because 1. they'll slip in your hand 2. they'll roll when laid down. (That is why it's nicer to use flat carpenter pencils instead of round pencils.)

>You say: just because something never changed, it’s ok to never change them?
It really is ok, nobody will fault you for leaving tools alone.
Maybe you'll win design awards from other people who also never use tools.

>> No.1534715

I've been wishing for a set of slippery as fuck hand tools with no grip whatsoever for a long time, thank god you're here OP.

>> No.1534717

>You say: just because something never changed, it’s ok to never change them?
>Never looking in a other direction.
Rather, there are very good reasons why hammers look the way they do. The modern designs are the result of millennia of refinement. If you are ignorant of the reasons why things are a certain way, doing something different for the sake of being different will probably produce something functionally inferior.

>I think people who work as a jewel designer don’t wanna use hammers like them.
Have you ever checked what jewelers' tools look like? They're just scaled down versions of regular metalworking tools.

>> No.1534718

maybe you're right.
I understand the sentence fff.
and i really understand your view to.
I just was asking, if some people have the wish for tools how are more beautiful.
But yeah, maybe my thoughts were wrong.
thank you guys.

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Yeah man when you go to the hospital because you have half a chisel lodged into your eyeball, it’s way better when the nurses are impressed by the aesthetic as fuck tool.

>> No.1534721

for me fff, means provide the function the users are need first. Then make all hints visible for a good usage. But what is also so important, is to see what the consumer group want, which colors, which shapes they like.
I know that first the shape comes from the function.

>> No.1534722

But on a serious note, there may be a market for tools that are hella bright and floursescent so you can see the bright pink stand out against Jamal’s dark skin while your fine hammer is walking away. Or when Pedro is done replacing that starter, you can see the hex keys he left on the top of the fan shroud before the customer leaves with their car.

>> No.1534729


what does "fff" mean

>> No.1534732

You can draw some dicks on it or engrave some shit on the non-functional area, but the form itself is what makes instrument work at all.

>> No.1534733

So what do you think the shape of a hammer claw should be? What function do you think it serves?

>> No.1534734

>What function do you think it serves?
It's needed to break heads of guys like you.

>> No.1534735

A framing axe would be better for that.

>> No.1534742

That gay little hammer isn't going to break anything.

>> No.1534743

>hey guys help me design fancy looking tools that don't work good because my main concern was what they looked like, so that I can get idiots to buy them for way more money than they're worth


>> No.1534744

no. not at all

>> No.1534746

>metal handle
>slips out of hand hitting coworker in head
>"dude i can't put pressure, my wrist is about to fucking implode cause ive been using a non shock absorbing hammer all fucking day."

>> No.1534750
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this is the most aesthetic hammer you are going to find

>> No.1534752

its a great business plan for pandering to milennials tho

>> No.1534753

*Aesthetic while still being practical.

>> No.1534755

Just buy a Harbor Freight 16 Oz claw and gold inlay a Triforce and sell it as an Artisinal Hammer.

>> No.1534756

Only faggots care about looks

>> No.1534760
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>Looks don't matter

>> No.1534761

If looks mattered to me I would use none of those. Looks like fucking transformer toys. They don't though.

>> No.1534771

Aesthetics for tools should be discrete. Like a black screwdriver with some nice rubber coating.It should be good quality. So if it looks like quality, its esthetic. It gives you reassurance that the tool can perform.

Tools should be manly looking. Except if its tools for girls then they should be girly looking. Like a screwdriver with flowers on it.

>> No.1534772

>If looks mattered to me I would use none of those. Looks like fucking transformer toys. They don't though.

In general, pronouns should be within screaming distance of the noun they refer to. Presumably, "they" refers to "looks".

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>Except if its tools for girls

>> No.1534810

Holy shit not even OP but look at the second post you replied to. Read the first sentence slowly and you'll answer your own question. Hint: "fff" is either an acronym or an abbreviation, depending on your pronunciation of it.

>> No.1534812

Based Gilmore Grills watcher

>> No.1534813

Quality tool > purely aesthetic

Plus a good crafted tool tends to be aesthetic. I'd aim for that OP.

>> No.1534814


Is this a test? I love tests. hmm, form follows function?

I feel better now that you let me solve it with just a hint. Now can you help me figure out why the Taylor Series has n! in the denominator? I know it's because of the power rule and the derivatives, but I still don't see why we have to cancel it out.

>> No.1534822

>I still don't see why we have to cancel it out.
Cancelling out is the point of dividing by the factorial. Successive terms of the Taylor series add successively finer approximations by accounting for higher derivatives at the point of consideration. Converting the derivative to the polynomial it corresponds to in the approximation requires dividing by the factorial because the power rule multiplies the coefficient beyond what is needed to fit the target curve.

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Thanks for the effort. I don't entirely suck at math, but something like that just eludes me. The Taylor Series will always seem half-magical to me, I'm afraid.

>> No.1534848

This might help:

>> No.1534850

Filthy fucking faggots

>> No.1534852

How did that happen? x)

>> No.1534859

perfect for numales assembling laminated papermashe ikea lego in their human coops

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Seriously. What does Taylor Swift have to do with this thread anyway.

>> No.1534869

It means OP is a dirty phoneposter.

>> No.1534870


Yeah, that guy has a gift for explaining things, and it's a quality video. I had maybe two teachers my entire life who could actually teach, rather than just present information. However, the limitation is within myself.

Thanks for the link.

>> No.1534882

This is an idea that has been attempted many times throughout the ages but has not really been done well since the 19th century which were largely tools which followed the well established working designs, but made with the highest quality of materials and took fit an finish to the extreme so the gentleman could work on his fretwork and marquetry without the shame of being seen using pedestrian tools.

Veritas is the most recent to attempt this and made one of the more ugly block planes in existence. They have tried to keep the function first, but most of their tools lack the comfort for long hours of use, and they look like they should come with a Veritas branded Members Only jacket.

OP would do well to research the many past attempts at aesthetic first tools and the only two successes at this that I can think of, the 19th century gentlemens tools and Veritas, Some research into tool design would probably be wise as well.

>> No.1534919

Those are the saddest looking excuses for tools I have ever had the misfortune to look upon. Looks like vapourwave has encroached onto the hardware market.

>tools for actual faggots

>> No.1534922

The more I look at these the funnier it gets. Imagine working in the field having to lug a bag full of solid steel-handled screwdrivers. Imagine owning these and then getting heartbroken because they got blemished on the job.
I want to take this idea and market fancy hand-crafted artisanal tools to LA apartment dwellers.

>> No.1534929

I always wanted a 5 pound hammer with almost all the weight in the handle, no way to pull nails, and nothing but a slick polished metal handle to hold on to, especially this time of year when my hands are entirely to warm and need a giant heat sink to hold onto while pounding on something...

Now you want a million dollar idea? A normal tool with hollow handles that you can drop a hand warmer in.

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>hey, i´m doing a research for aesthetic tools.

What a coincidence, I'm doing research for aesthetic foot soles and weed whacker line.

Seriously though, looks mean absolutely nothing and can actually worsen the tools function. Plus what "looks good" on a tool is far different than what "looks good" as a house or wardrobe. Black and yellow for instance look absolutely wonderful and are "aesthetic" on a manly, functional block of steel. But black and yellow pants and jacket? Ugly.

Sleek, slender, smooth, and "pretty" when explained to the manual labor working man translate into "this shit doesn't fucking work and will break/not work right" because typically that's precisely what happens to "beautiful tools". Every fucking tool that is used on a regular basis will end up looking like shit regardless so the point is entirely moot to begin with. Like buying a new couch just to leave it outside.

>> No.1534939


You got it backwards, function follows form. If I make a "hammer" that is 6 inches long 1/4 inch thick and sharp as a hell it will be used to cut things far more often than it will be used to hammer in nails no matter how much I write hammer on the packaging.

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It is pretty easy so long as the function of the tool isn't impeded.

>> No.1534998

That phrase is used in the context of (ostensibly competent) design, where the form of something is made to serve some particular function which would be specified by a client, other third party, or circumstances. If you build a bad knife when trying to make a hammer, that's on you. What things are called is unrelated to the topic.

>> No.1535013

It means “form follows function” it’s pretty important so it gets its own abbreviation

>> No.1535028

No self respecting tradesmen is going to swing around these dainty little space tools all day long, especially when they get filthy as all fuck when theyre working. What the fuck are you thinking.

>> No.1535035

"If something is one hundred percent functional, it is always beautiful."

If you want to make a beautiful tool, build it from the highest quality materials available, attend to every detail, and cut no corners.
The things that can make a tool beautiful beyond function is effort put into the manufacture process, being made with attention to detail and obvious pride.

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I wish someone were making modern power tools with the aesthetics of retro 30s-60s metal cased tools. Even if it were still a polymer case, which I admit is functionally superior.

>> No.1535039

>prioritizing form over function when it comes to hand tools
WTF OP are you marketing to millennial soccer moms to sell them overpriced 'tool kits' that they'll use once then put away in their kitchen drawer and never look at again because they always call the repair guy when anything actually goes wrong? Please KYS. You're as bad a hipster fixie bike owners who want the bike to be pretty but never ride it, they just use it as a wall decoration.

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Old tool aesthetics were great, especially the ones where form didn't only follow function, the form existed to show off the function.
Exposed motors are the best.

>> No.1535043

How difficult would it be to wire up a small fibre optic light on each end of these ethernets, to light up under signal?

>> No.1535057

"These hand tools were designed to fit in the home as a quickly accessible product which suits the environment it lives and is used in, with particular focus on the urban individual who uses these tools infrequently in short bursts"

so, these are tools made for hammering in picture hangers and opening up battery compartments. Replacements for the high heeled shoe and the point of a kitchen knife, for most of these people. I can kinda see that working.
but making that whole hammer out of steel doesn't really fit with the "soft and approachable to use and hold" thing he's going for. it must be pretty heavy. There's a lot of nice woods he could have used instead, which would have made it a better tool in every way.
people who've been using tools since they could walk just can't understand what it's like to be one of these people.
"The aggressive nature of many tools with their design language often creates an intimidating perception" Shudder.

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>dainty little space tools
Incidentally, actual space tools look more like pic related.

>> No.1535126

That thing probably cost the taxpayers $278k to make, and that’s decades ago so it’s gotta be nearly 7 figures in today’s Benjamins.

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Probably not. I would expect that to be an aerospace magnesium handle with a tool steel head, all custom machined and hand finished to exacting specifications. Easily a few thousand, but it's not a mission- or safety-critical component, and it's very simple in any case. The big costs of spacecraft are the complex and/or high stress areas that need a lot of attention from design, production, and testing. And all the fuel, of course. For consideration, pic related took a long time to get it to stop exploding, and it's not even a moving part.

>> No.1535179

>And all the fuel, of course.
You're forgetting all the palms that need to be greased since all economic activities are tribal to some extent, and none of us are incorruptible. We also never operate at maximum efficiency.

>> No.1535181

...and then the tool had to be sourced from some company with special certifications who also has a gov’t contract to manufacture sporks for Navy Seals at a cost of $72.50ea.

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Black and decker did a while back...

>> No.1535183

To be fair have you ever heard of a navy seals spork breaking?

>> No.1535190

hell, im gay. Even i think this is a terrible idea.

>> No.1535192

Would be good if it didn't have plastic bits on it.

>> No.1535199

Yes. Once. Some chick who said she spent the past 6 months on a submarine. She was pretty butch before she enlisted, but goddamn you should see it now. Admittedly she knew more about kegels than anybody I have ever met.

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I've seen them. It was just their standard shit-tier drill with an aluminum shell on it. Least they could have done is taken the internals of a DeWalt and put the cool B&D shell on it.

Not that DeWalt made drills back in the day. B&D put the DeWalt name on their 'Professional" line of tools starting about 1994 but they still have hints of the old line in the aesthetic details of their more modern stuff.

>> No.1535215

DeWalt is made for jobsites, nobody is trying to earn their paycheck with a cold ass metal tool that electrocutes them and is awkward to use. That’s exactly what this whole thread is about.

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>> No.1535232
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Haha, dude. You do know what double insulation is right? Those 'collector" B&D drills were still double insulated. And plenty of modern tools are not double insulated. I'd like to see you working on a jobsite without a fucking circular saw.

>DeWalt is made for jobsites
Black and Decker Professional was too. Don't get so butthurt when you learn that a shit brand is also part of the same company as the brand you like sucked dick for. Same goes for Milwaukee/Ryobi. They have different brands for different price points. Deal with it.

>> No.1535240

Yes, we all know B&D was once sold to more than single mothers. Still doesn’t change the fact that dudes paying their mortgage with their drill 50+ hours a week don’t want some heavy awkward goofy lookin tool when the 2019 model works better.

>> No.1535265

I'd pay big bucks for an all metal screwdriver bit holder with a round, checkered grip and a long narrow shaft.

>> No.1535272
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>when the 2019 model works better.
Uh huh. Huge improvements here. The last Black and Decker one is from about the late 80s-early 90s. The one before that is from about the early 80s. Then you have a late 70s model. The worn-looking golden one is from the late 60s. The first one is from the 50s or early 60s. I bet you fucking money if you pulled the cases of the ones from the 80s and 90's the only major difference would be the DeWalt stuff is made in China and not as well at that. Chucks aside, they are the same tools going back a very long way (40 years). They have just engineered them to be cheaper and cheaper to manufacture. Shave some plastic from here, use a lower quality metal there, have some 9 year old chained to a workbench drive the screws holding it together rather than a union employee with a pension. I don't have to tell you that hasn't done the durability and longevity of the tool any favors. Things used to be overbuilt. Not they are designed to be as cheap as possible while still just barely getting the job done.

The reason for it is simple too. America doesn't build shit anymore. We import it. You think the demand for tools as gone UP in the USA in the last 40 years? Far from it. We manufactured so much there was room for a dozen major tool companies in the US that just manufactured drills! That is before you even get into foreign companies. Now 6 in the whole work make 90% of the tools, mostly in China. Sure, your drill might spin a little faster, be a little lighter, have a really cool shell inspired by the Transformer Bumblebee, but it won't last. It will be in a landfill in 20 years. If your fucking Dad managed to get the job done with these primitive pieces of shit, so you say, what the fuck does that say about you? A poor craftsman blames his tools.

>don’t want some heavy awkward goofy lookin tool
Yeah, buddy. 'Cause your tools by Hasbro look awesome.

Talk to a local machinist. That should be easy to put out on a lathe

>> No.1535296

>he doesn't buy the Hitachi $3000 brushless corded rotary hammer

>> No.1535311

Where are your knipex?

>> No.1535312

Lodged in your eyeball.

Guess it is hard to blame you for not seeing it, hard to see what in your own eyeball.

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I remember my first old corded B&D drill my dad gave me. That thing sucked compared to a modern cordless. It may run twice as long, but you get the same amount of work done because it only works half as well.

That fancy curve on the Pliers Wrench is actually a clever design so your girlfriend can carry it around for you. One in the pink, one in the stink, and the ergo handle makes it much more comfortable than other brands like Channellock.

>> No.1535385

Where do you find girly tools? I wouldn't mind a pink flowery set.

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>> No.1535395

Purple is gay, I want girly.

>> No.1535399

Purple is royal. Do ye not want to be called Prince?

>> No.1535409

>buy purple shirt
>show it to my dad
>"son are you gay?"

>> No.1535415

My dad bought some ugly pink polo when he was 50 and divorced and it was his favorite shirt to wear out and I had to talk a bunch of shit to him.

>> No.1535420

He is free now, let him be happy.

>> No.1535424

>at dad’s apartment
>hey dad, I’m gonnaburn this Bob Seger CD
>open up CD tray
>”Hey dad where you want me to put this porno DVD you left in the computer?”

>> No.1535426

Was it gay porn?

>> No.1535430

Nah there were titties. I can’t remember what it was. Shoulda burned that too.

He really was a boomer. Who buys porno anyway? I mean I got a couple vids when I turned 18 but I think I gave them all away to my frat bros a year later.

>> No.1535434

Yet another fucking failure of capitalism, albeit removed enough that there's much more to bitch about, here.
Colleges want you to feel like you're getting something out of them. They also must uphold this constant cult of progress on all fronts--the idea that everything can be drastically reworked instead of incrementally improved upon--and then they give these sorts of ideas to undergraduate dumbfucks in order to loosen their grip on their own fucking money.

The idea that some "outsider" can come in an "revolutionize" a field's design is a direct result of capitalism's tendency to hyperspecialize people, which increases ignorance and inflates the opinions that come out of these ignorant dumbfucks as "disruptive."
The people who made hammers before you weren't stupider than you are: They did things for a reason. Until you understand those reasons and understand that commodity production is what's fucking killing workers worldwide, you're part of the problem.
Fuck you.

>> No.1535438

>Yet another fucking failure of capitalism
Capitalism is Trial & Error. We're in the Error Stage with just about everything with Feminism, Diversity and all the other bullshit. We'll get a totalitarian purge in the next 20 years or so.

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I'm gonna go ahead and say Veritas is a good example of gorgeously redesigned tools - that also are a delight to work with.

>> No.1535456

oh get the fuck out you dumb faggot. Your ignorant fucking attitude is making me rage.

Who the fuck do you think you are.

>hurr y r hammur not more pretty i think i know something

>> No.1535473

See, that looks like a nice design that iterated on what came previously instead of trying to reinvent everything.

>> No.1535497

Yes, which is basically what Veritas does - toolmen that know and use tools, knowing the functioning of old tools reinvent those tools - keeping what worked from the old, and adding new hotness.

>> No.1535766

dont you have a bull to prep?

>> No.1535773

That is a nice plane, but the premium you end up having to pay for it isn't worth it desu...and this is from a guy that has been purchasing shit there at Lee Valley since the 90's desu...my Mom helped research a book he wrote, and donated a bunch of shit to the Lee Valley 'Library'...
Record low angle block plane works just as well after it's been trued up, and it's about half the cost now...

>> No.1535824

ok kid

>> No.1535828

I see you haven't been keeping up to date with the events in France.

>> No.1535863

Holy fuck..those are so beautiful I wouldn't be able to use them....

>> No.1535867

Well, not after using them sends vibrations down your arm and fucks up your joints, no. There is a reason you only see meth heads using pipes for hammers handles and not wood or fiberglass.

>> No.1535873

>ok kid
You can't even spell 'okay' properly, use English grammar, punctuation or syntax correctly, and I'm the fucking kid?

Everything is cyclic, you retard, including Capitalism every fucking time there's an upset. We're in a massive upset at the moment, but there will be a downswing soon; a return to the balance the 1950s brought The West.

Robotic/automation is an admitted hiccup, but the Rich need us Poor post-automation and a balance will return.

>> No.1535876

Umm...my dude....estwing is all one piece steel with molded gummy handle.

Can't feel a single vibration when I use it.

>> No.1535878

But yeah---that hammer would hurt the wrist after a couple of hard hits.

>> No.1535885

Injector plate? What motor?

>> No.1535902

F1. Three tons of fuel per second through there.

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Nice troll man. Good job. Plus digits too.

>> No.1535907

The "checkered" grip is called "knurling". Its quite easy to do.

>> No.1535911

>tl;dr make an ergonomic hammer

>> No.1535914

That's because real steel-handled hammers like Estwings use a very thin profile for the neck and a lower-density (in this case shock-absorbing too) material for the grip. The center of mass is still close to the head as in a wood-handled hammer, meaning that the center of percussion is very close to the face itself, so very little shock is transferred to the hand. In OP's hammer, the center of mass is in the grip, meaning that any impact on the head will transfer a lot of the impact to the hand.

>> No.1536046

That is a different question altogether.

Point is - they make beautiful tools that also work really well, so it can be done.

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start with these and reverse engineer

Gynecological Devices for Operating on Mutant Women

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tl;dr but seems gay

>> No.1536180

youre mom suck me good thru my jorts

>> No.1536267

Been scrolling past for a bit. Figured was troll but the more i think about it. You may be onto something.

Pic related.

Wanted one of these for 20 years. After i bought it i spent 4 days debating on using it or hanging it up...

>> No.1536272


>Phillips head screwdriver
>litterally thousands of years.
>literally, not figuratively

>> No.1536277

>truck bed liner

>> No.1536282

I just want micro solar panels and lights in screwdriver handles. Different colors for different types

>> No.1536284


...fuckin sissy. BOTH of my wrists are done. Spent a decade swinging sledgehammers all day.

>> No.1536285



Codys lab.

Gold plating.

Anon... you may be onto something

>> No.1536299


>be me
>be 2 years ago
>find old beater ass drill in junk pile at dad's friends' shop
>bruh, can i have it
>knock yourslef out anon
>piece of shit just stopped working so i tossed it
>take it home, gut the bitch, new switch, new cable, almost done soldering it up
>bro shows up
>hey anon whaddup?
>Dude! I got a free drill to redo, wtf color should i paint it?
>"my uncle rebuilt a drill like this"
>fuck yeah, great idea isnt it, wtf kind did he redo? Do you have it???

>uhhhh... well anon, he died doing that.
U was going to tell you not to do this.


>> No.1536300

Same thing in pinknat walmart. Brb

>> No.1536305

Fuck. Got up and forgot pic. Will look online

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Got my wife this

>> No.1536310

>time flies when you're a faggot!

>> No.1536313


Pink shirt and single at 50. Just...

>> No.1536315

And queer

>> No.1536319

Fucking hell are we brothers?

Be me. Love tech. Dad needs silver bullet band on cassette tapes. Burn em. Dad need silver bullet band on CDs. Burn em. Dad needs silver bullet band on digital. Mfw I have pirated 5 things in my life and they were all bob seager.

I swear to fuck ima see him before i die

>> No.1536322

Well... divorced. And he had a couple girls, I have no fucking clue. He ded now and I have his hacksaw.

It was that mid-00s brofuck polo look. I’m suprised he didn’t start wearing those retarded plaid white shorts they would all wear. My boomer neighbor still wears those things and they’re so stupid.

>> No.1536327

Born in 85.

Back in the day we had to steal playboys and jerk our dicks like a fucking pilgrim.

My first successful business was mowing yards all summer long and taking trash out for 6 neighbors in the trailer park.

Bought a poloroid and paid my friends to take pictures of the hottest bitches in thier dad's porns. Then i would take pics of those polaroids and sell them.

My dad crawled under the house after me and my mom spent 2 days danglung balogna and yelling here kitty kitty to a cat that was hissing.

Turns out the cat was a stuck opossum and while dad was flailing around under the trailer he put an elbow through my cardboard cigar box lid.

Had north of $600 stashed at 7 years old.

Dad was a bro tho. I came clean and he said you know what anon. I'm proud of you. Knock this shit off tho. And it's not right but if you promise to never tell mom i will use this money to fix the dune buggy.

I was just happy to avoid an ass beating. The next day the walls are shaking and dad was in the passenger seat of the dune buggy. He had stayed up all night with friends. They rebuilt the motor and mounted a kid's seat on the drivers side and had another one for the passengers side after me and dad went and flogged on it.

To date i have never driven so well or made my dad so proud.

At 7 years old i was cutting donuts and running a 4 speed pretty damned good. So good that he called his best friend over for a ride. His kid was my best friend and all 4 of us changed the other seat out. My bro in his 40s now still cant drive! We rolled 8 times into a car in the street, and 2 houses.

So much fun

>> No.1536346



I am not smart. IQ wise anyway. And i am a capitalist even tho i see the bad of it.

You should please produce an email adress

You would be a great asset to the team.

We just want to hang out and make money. Legally

>> No.1536380

Please make a plastic ding dong attached

>> No.1536704

You should feel bad for making this thread

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Fucking idiots

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>> No.1536756

That looks like a lobotomy set.

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>> No.1536997

Well maybe if there was a ~1mm shim of rubber between the head and handle, otherwise that shock is getting transferred for sure. I'm also rather sceptical as to whether two screws are sufficient to keep the head in place, they'd better have abundant shear strength.

>> No.1537113

That looks good but too fragile and slippery. Put more metal into the shaft of the screw driver and some kind of pattern for grip.

>> No.1537337

>handle screws into the bottom of the neck
not a good design
but then again this tool set was developed for people who dont use tools, so im not mad

>> No.1537354

There is a huge marked for cool looking useless shit, this how ever is /diy and we do things with other things and they need to work, you should take art and design classes.

>> No.1537357

There are plenty of people like me on this board. Have you not noticed the Wera owners?

>> No.1537360

Cute! Does she use it?

>> No.1537365

>been trying to force ducted fans on to drones for the past three years mainly because it looks cool
am I capitalist scum?

>> No.1537366

This. Don't hate the player, hate the game, stuff like this sells.

>> No.1537450

I don't understand what you are trying to say, but it sounds like you are implying that I don't own more Wera tool then I need, and I don't like that.

>> No.1537471

Well theres only one solution to make yourself happy again, and I think you know what that is

>> No.1537484

I have had a eye on some Wera stuff, it sure would look good in my tool box.

>> No.1537527
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Good tools are aesthetic just because they're good tools. Quality is an aesthetic in itself, maybe even more so with use.

>> No.1537609

Do women not feel demeaned by shit like this? Tools are tools, and are already unisex. Making pink HF Chinaman shit is just silly.

>> No.1537619

she's married to a guy who would buy her a set of pink playtools, it takes a lot more than an oddly gendered gift to demean her at this point.

>> No.1537630

Just put an Apple logo and it'll be done

>> No.1537633

And when the shaft shatters and goes into his eye, it's now an Apple Retina.

>> No.1537677

I feel I'm not really having the apple experience at this point. Theres a lot of blood!

Well you should have known not to expect such performance from o
The handtool line. You clearly expected a pro user experience, but tried to save a few bucks by using the handtool line. Frankly you violated your own warranty and eula.

>> No.1537748

Have you ever used a tool in your life? When somebody needs to drive nails, they’re going to pick up something like pic related in >>1534660, no matter how many times you call it a pinata. Meanwhile, your hipster hammer design is going to embark on a long and distinguished career as a paperweight.

>> No.1537802

The SCREWDRIVER handle screws in, so when you go to turn a screw you end up taking your screwdriver apart!
Truly brilliant design.

>> No.1537819

Those are shitty tools tho

>> No.1538655

I would have more pleasure working with an ergonomic and good feeling tool than a good looking one, and that's coming from an artist. Work on making tools that feel good and have a good balance to them rather than ones that look good. Design is still a plus, but how they feel is the most important thing.

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our "industrial designer"

>using a hammer to open bob

>> No.1538886

>local machinist
would they really take a one off order?
Why is it so hard to find quality tools with it now? I have some old snap on and craftsman socket wrenches that just have a simple round knurled grip and I love it so much more than any plastic or rubbery grip.

>> No.1538900

Some of the knurling can rough up your hands pretty good if you aren’t wearing gloves, especially when the tools are brand new.

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I've always wanted to get into product design but it seems like they are all in a fantasy world. I walked past my local university and saw concept sketches for hover boards and shit. With what batteries are three 10 inch fans going to keep a guy in the air?

>> No.1538982

This. All of this. More of this. Where's the rest of this. Find extra this. Can't have enough this. Fuck that and the other.

>> No.1539013

You really need to study history to get beyond this shitty viewpoint. We see new modes of production in three stages: Revolutionary, reformist, and conservative. We're in the conservative stage of capitalism: It merely serves to feed itself.

>> No.1539017

The 1950s weren't balanced at all. They were a period of massive turmoil and constant subjugation, and poverty didn't just magically stop existing.
You're up your own ass and STILL out of your element.

>> No.1540548

These people are better of designing models for vidya.
At best they get to create some concept art model for some shitshow for cars, they never will be built tho.

>> No.1540549

>"use English grammar, punctuation or syntax correctly"
>, and

>> No.1540584

Sometimes designing everything like you're Williams Sonoma is a bad idea

>> No.1540594

let this shitty thread die ffs

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New Milwaukee tools wit the aesthetic handles and are overpriced Asian crap but have that MKE logo backing it.

Their drill bits and saw blades are decent, albeit expensive for what you get, but all of their hand tools seem to be mediocre while costing quite a bit more than other big box store brands.

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>> No.1540663

>you should take art and design classes
This gave me giggles. Look just a tad more deeply into OP's background and you'll understand why. Also,
>free bump for shit thread because 4chan(nel). Blame Mook.

>> No.1540677

makes hammer for moon exploration
pounds rocks in nevada instead

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fug :DD:D

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oh no

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s u c c

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based and redpilled

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You're getting there...

>> No.1540742

damn son

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misread the counter when i started, now im all out

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uh oh

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Pozzed and bugpilled

>> No.1540749

slowly but surely

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my diary desu

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top zoz

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>> No.1540764

tfw no gf original

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>> No.1540768

for me it's the mc chicken

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>> No.1540771

install gentoo

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>> No.1540775

is that a famas?

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>> No.1540778

hell no

>> No.1540780

but will it blend?

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f a m

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pool is closed

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rush b

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>> No.1540799

>booding dhe kebnel :DD:D:DD

>> No.1540800

fuck off you schizo

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>> No.1540802

it's all yours my friend

>> No.1540805

damn boii she t h i c c

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OwO whats this?!

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feminine penis

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>> No.1540821

you mean "wincel" ;)

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>> No.1540824

Gee Bill! How Come Your Mom Lets You Eat Two Wieners?

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Are Estonian grills aesthetic hammers?

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Almost as funny as Raate Road.

>> No.1540831

this is so sad! eliza play despasquito

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not an argument

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>> No.1540840

too old!

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>> No.1540843

you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

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>> No.1540846

sh nerd

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Ilmatyynyalukseni on täynnä ankeriaita.

Mu hõljuk on angerjaid täis.

Mon leäm Erkki Lumisalmi šõddâm Aanar kåå'dd Njeällem siidâst. Leäm nuõrttsämlaž. Peäcc, peäccmsämlaž. Puärrâs lee puättâm Peäccmest mâŋŋa väinn ko Peäccam joouti e pet Ruõššnjânnma, nu'tt ko tõt lij leämmoški ääi jeb. Ko li'jjim u'cc pä'rnn de mij doma maainstin pâI säämas da seämma tõn siõm siidâst puk maainste säämas, nääi't ǩiõll jie'li. Puärsab olmmo maainste nubben ǩiõllân ruõššǩiõll de tõt ǩiõll še leäi tõl touddsab ko täbbe.

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>> No.1540850

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale.

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>> No.1540854

peepee poopoo

>> No.1540855

OP's tool is clearly a prostate massager first and a hammer second. It has its place.

>> No.1540856

dan "the man with the van and the plan" schneider

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Muq hõl'omismassin om angõrit täüs.

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but i found out

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>> No.1540863

libtards destroyed epic style

>> No.1540864

hell yeah

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Pagižed-ik vepsäks?

>> No.1540867

Open the door, get on the floor
Everybody walk the dinosaur

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thanks to my fellow shitposters, wouldnt have been possible without you

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Puhutteko suomea?

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There they stood, bumbling into lines with a bit of difficulty: Mother Finland's chosen sacrifice to world history.

~Väinö Linna
~~Tuntematon sotilas

>> No.1542324

Congrats /diy/, you've done it.
Now the thread is guaranteed to die sometime in the next three or four days

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>> No.1542729

its gone nigger
fuck u, i pushed it to death

>> No.1542729,1 [INTERNAL] 

I found a good place where you can find a custom wedding ring design https://elegantgems.ie/custom-wedding-rings-design/ so you can visit them. Also, they have so good discounts before 14february

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