/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1529887]

>Finally do what my wife wants and start completing projects around the house
>Need a drill
>frugal as hell
>Go to ikea
>Most powerful drill is 45 euros
>nice.jpg
>finish installing one project
>next day
>plan to install shelves
>drill dies
>"wtf, battery is full"
>smoke coming out the back
>mfw drill can't handle concrete walls
>despite being sold in fuggin Greece of all places
FUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.1529889]

>>1529887
You need a hammer drill for concrete

[Anonymous No.1529900]

>>1529887
>need power tool
>goes to ikea
but why

[Anonymous No.1529902]

>frugal as hell
>frugal
Misspelled "cheap" or "stingy". Just rent something if you don't want to shell out for a quality tool.

[Anonymous No.1529904]

>he doesn't already have at least 2 drills.
>he posts on /diy/

GTFO

[Anonymous No.1529908]

>>1529887
That’s what you get for buying a drill at fucking ikea of all places

[Anonymous No.1529909]

>>1529887
well do you want help or just sympathy?

[Anonymous No.1529980]

>>1529889
FPBP

[Anonymous No.1530134]

>buys "tools" from ikea

[Anonymous No.1530135]

>>1529887
of all the house maintenance tools you had to cheap out on the fucking drill?

[Anonymous No.1530136]

>>1529887
Drill Debts.

[Anonymous No.1530137]

>>1529887
just get a HVDC motor and make your own concrete boring drill smfh

[Anonymous No.1530143]

Why not be constructive? This is /DIY not /b !!!!

Tell the guy which drill to get.

[Beppu No.1530144]

>>1530143
OP bought a drill from Ikea. Then he tried to drill into concrete with it. Is he going to buy a $200 hammer drill even if we tell him it’s the right thing to do?

I may get pic related eventually because the impact wrench alone is $159. If I do it, OP can have the drill if he pays for shipping. They sell Ridgid as “AEG” in Yurop so he could easily get a battery-charger. Or if he pays for half plus shipping, I’ll give him the drill and a battery and charger. But he would probably get raped by Yuro import taxes.

[Anonymous No.1530145]

>>1529904
>>he doesn't already have at least 2 drills.
>>he posts on /diy/
>GTFO

>Not having at least 2 drills
>corded and cordless

Rookie mistake

[Beppu No.1530148]

>>1530145
>corded drill
Meh, is there even really a point anymore? Unless it’s an SDS drill or a drill press, why? A fresh 2.0Ah Li-Ion will run you a long time these days.

[Anonymous No.1530153]

>>1529887
Usually I'd say buy a Lidl cordless or corded SDS drill, but the Greek Lidl doesn't seem to have them.

[Anonymous No.1530165]

>>1530148
>A fresh 2.0Ah Li-Ion will run you a long time these days.

It depends exclusively on how hard you are running the drill. The torque that is required for the job being the prime factor. More torque = higher rate of battery drain. If you need to make 4"-6" holes in plywood, with a hole saw it will drain the battery faster than drilling a bunch of 1/8" holes in plywood. With a corded drill it can be pretty fast and far faster and more accurate than using a reciprocating saw. Just the difference between a 1" spade bit and 1/2" spiral bit can be pretty big. Also, the difference between pine lumber and local hardwoods takes it to a whole new level. Even a paint stirrer for 5-gallon buckets should use a corded drill if you can.

On some jobs I'd need to have 6-8 batteries on rotation, but instead I just use a corded drill. I'm not installing deck screws either.

[Anonymous No.1530215]

>>1529887

you let the smoke out that is why the drill has stopped working

guess you are going to have to buy a new one

[Anonymous No.1530236]

>>1530215
yep, always put duct tape on if smoke tries to escape.

[Anonymous No.1530239]

lol this fucken thread is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.1530323]

>>1530165
How long of cord did you need to run for the drill? Or how far did you need to carry your finish piece?

[Anonymous No.1530441]

>>1530323
I have a couple 100' 10awg extension cords I can use pretty much anywhere. I needed those just for a small saw table. I own a farm and there are buried electrical lines and access points all over the place too. I have both corded and cordless drills/drivers because both are needed. I even have a host of manual power drills since I also do work in locations where packing in a dozen batteries is just stupid or I need more control over what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.1530455]

>>1529889
well which is it a hammer or a drill you can't just hammer through concrete and expect a perfect hole like you would a drill. obviously OP's drill is defective. take it back to ikea and trade it in for another quality home improvement product.

[Anonymous No.1530456]

>>1529887
>not buying you drill from the grocery store like a normal person

[Humble croatian red aerated br(...) No.1530464]

>>1529887
>>mfw drill can't handle concrete walls

only few aku drills can handle concrete dude, you need a good ol corded pneumatic impact one

[Anonymous No.1530474]

>>1529887
Buy cheap, buy twice

[Anonymous No.1530497]

>>1529887
>Mfw δε χρησιμοποιεί το /diy/ για να kάνει έρευνα αγοράς αλλά για να παραπονεθεί

Λοβοτομή ΤΩΡΑ.

[Anonymous No.1530499]

>>1530455
>you can't just hammer through concrete and expect a perfect hole like you would a drill.

Yes, you can. The tool you need is a small sledge hammer and a star drill (pic). Hammer once, turn the star drill an 1/8 of a turn, hammer, turn back 1/8 of a turn, hammer, repeat. A "hammer drill" is an electric drill that has an impact function that hammers the drill bit for concrete down many times a second while spinning the bit. An impact driver uses an impact force for the spin of the driver bit to make installing screws easier, but does not hammer down like a hammer drill. So, only use hammer drills and star drills, but not impact drivers or drills with an impact driver function. You can also get a drill that has a hammer function, an impact driver function, or just normal drilling all in one and will have a switch to change the function setting.

[Anonymous No.1530505]

>>1529887
so you bought a shitty drill and mis-used it and it broke?

is it normal to buy tools at an ikea in other countries?

[Humble croatian red aerated br(...) No.1530506]

>>1530499
>Yes, you can. The tool you need is a small sledge hammer and a star drill (pic). Hammer once, turn the star drill an 1/8 of a turn, hammer, turn back 1/8 of a turn, hammer, repeat.

would it work on legit poured concrete or just concrete block which are less dense btw?

[Anonymous No.1530510]

>>1530506
It works on everything hard from solid rock to poured concrete to blocks and bricks. Star drills are pretty cheap and easy to use. It is mostly about patience.

[Anonymous No.1530516]

>>1530506
>>1530510
>>1530499
It is certainly not for the faint of heart,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsfF3O-dVMY

[Humble croatian red aerated br(...) No.1530522]

>>1530516
is the carthartt jacket making him slower or faster?

[Madame St Claire !tr.t4dJfuU No.1530527]

>>1530522

How long before the resident autist goes ballistic over your name? Or will you fall into his category of "legitimate" namefags.

[Anonymous No.1530574]

>>1529887
Wooden balloon-frame construction doesn't look so bad now, huh europoor?

[Humble croatian red aerated br(...) No.1531244]

>>1530527
>How long before the resident autist goes ballistic over your name?

who dat?

[Anonymous No.1531251]

So as not to start a thread over this, but related - can anyone clue me in on Dremel-style rotary tools? My initial impulse is to go for an original Dremel because "quality", but reading the reviews on Amazon people's opinions are pretty much the same as for pic related. A lot of the usual "they don't make them like they used to" that you get with almost every reputable brand that has moved production to china nowadays. Are there any "quality brands" even left?

[Anonymous No.1531280]

>>1531251
Don't buy the absolute cheapest shit and it'll be fine. Dremel is kind of overpriced.

[Anonymous No.1531284]

>>1529887
Since you're in >Europe, you have a grand total of 1 choice for a good cordless drill, 18V Makita DHP482. It'll run you about 130-150 euros. You could go for brushless combi drills, but then you're looking at 200. Try to get a 3Ah battery or more.
Lidl also has one not complete shit cordless drill, but it costs almost as much as the Makita so there isn't really any good reason to buy that. But even Lidl's cheap shit cordless drill is better than what you bought.

[Anonymous No.1531394]

>>1531251
The most important thing to remember with RTs is the duty cycle. I have 3 $35 Wen RTs (each is configured so I don't have to change out the wand or base all the time) that have lasted over a year each because I pay attention to duty cycle.

[Beppocrates No.1531397]

>>1531394
I have one old Craftsman that I run the fuck out of and grind whatever I want and it’s still going like a raped ape.

[Anonymous No.1531398]

>>1531394

How do you gauge that though? It's not exactly a spec that's listed by the manufacturer...

[Anonymous No.1531399]

>>1531284
A 50 Euro Lidl SDS cordless will outperform that when you hit a piece of aggregate. The hammer function on a three jaw chuck drill has almost no impact.

[Anonymous No.1531408]

>>1531399
Sure, but OP (presumably) wanted an all-purpose cordless drill, not an SDS. Chances are the combi Makita would drill out the holes for the shelves.

[Anonymous No.1531409]

>>1531397
Lucky you. I wish I could find a few older First Gen RTs. Those are much better than current models.

>>1531398
The duty cycle is listed right in my manuals.

[Anonymous No.1531413]

>>1531397
>it’s still going like a raped ape.
I imagine a raped ape would be more likely to rip your arms off than drill or grind something

[Anonymous No.1531416]

>>1531251
if you're going to beat on a dremel enough to burn it up, go with a die grinder instead.
air die grinders are so incredibly basic that even the sloppiest rusted-out harbor freight refurb works fine, but for corded die grinders you better stick to bosch, makita, metabo or hitachi. don't be tempted by chink shit with a 3-jaw drill chuck, they're dangerously bad!

[Anonymous No.1531429]

>>1531409
My dad had that craftsman and it was a piece of shit. Used it twice and then it was dead. Take it back in for Sears warranty. Sorry anon, that's only for handtools

[Anonymous No.1531442]

>>1531416

I don't intend to beat on it - i already have a big hammer drill and an angle grinder for this type of stuff. I was looking at dremels for detail work like cutting patterns in thin steel sheets with the cutoff discs and polishing small details. I already looked at a few of the ones like in your pic, but they don't appear to be for fine work and i haven't seen any flex-shaft attachments for them that would allow it.

[Beppocrates No.1531452]

>>1531398
You can always find that stuff if you look for a pdf of the user manual.

>>1531409
>>1531429
I have a Dremel too but I never really use it. I should fux with it more though because I have a bunch of attachments like a router and goofy stuff but haven’t ever tried them out.

>>1531413
Depends on the ape. The key is showing dominance.

[Beppocrates No.1531455]

>>1531442
See the pic >>1531452

Depending what you’re doing, I’m not sure how many offer the same assortments of accessories. May be something to think about.

[Anonymous No.1531700]

>>1530144
> namefag says buy Ridgid(tm)
The most shamefully transparent social media marketing.

[Anonymous No.1531704]

>>1530499
You know enough to get the idea, but not enough that know the hammer is literally called a “drilling hammer”. Topkek

[Anonymous No.1531706]

>>1530505
No. In fact ikea is almost a meme unto itself in that you don’t need your own tools to put their furniture together.. it either pops together or they include the Allen key you need.

[Beppocrates No.1531715]

>>1531700
Ridgid is just a stepping stone to Knipex. That’s the top brass shilling right there. Once you get to Knipex, you retire Knipex.

We can all dream...

[Anonymous No.1531741]

>>1529887
>>frugal as hell

No, I am frugal as hell, which is why I buy quality tools once instead of fighting junk then replacing it. Cheap shit certainly has its place, but I don't cheap out on power tools.

If you can't afford a quality cordless, just buy a quality used corded drill instead. People practically give those away despite them being functionally superior to cordless in every respect but convenience.

If you are frugal, learn to be efficient. Learn what "false economy" means. Just spending as little as possible per purchase isn't efficient per se.

[Anonymous No.1533261]

>>1529887
just buy cheap hammerdrill from DIY store
ones with vertical motor housing in front of grip, they are all the same inside and will serve for most DIY projects

[Anonymous No.1533267]

>>1529887
pic not related, right? because that shit is nothing more than screwdriver

[Anonymous No.1533273]

>>1530144
>using battery
>using battery on a hammer drill
>paying more than 100$ for it
>carrying a gay trash bag instead of a toolbox

>>1529887
ffs just buy the any corded bosch hammer drill between 500w-700w. the highest price for one here is 70€. mine is almost 30yo and still good as new

[Knipex. For Life. No.1533306]

>>1533273
Meh, nobody actually uses those bags for very long.

And cordless hammer drill is fine if you’re like me where maybe once or twice a year I need to put a couple small holes into the concrete exterior wall of my house. Regular drill won’t do and big ass SDS drills are too much for that. Half the time I’m doing that, it’s around the outside of my house and I don’t have to drag a 100’ extension cord around. Plus nobody puts any effort into their corded tools anymore.

[Anonymous No.1533610]

>>1530135
Gold!!!

[Anonymous No.1535932]

>>1529887
If it's concrete, you need a drill with hammer function.
If it is hollow bricks or cement blocks you don't need the hammer.
I hope you're at least using the wall drill bit.

[Anonymous No.1535936]

>>1529904
>>1530145
>>1530148
>>1530165
>>1530323
>>1530441

>not having a reversible air drill

fucking casuals

[Milwaukee > Snap-On !ShlRJ3wGuk No.1535943]

>>1535936

right

i got an ultra pro pneumatic 1/2 inch that i welded a 1/2 nut to and threaded in the removable handle from one of the shops grinders into

loud as fuck no speed control and it rips your fucking arms off but god damn i love it

[Anonymous No.1538282]

>>1529887
lol. you're fucked. in the trash it goes. lol.

[Anonymous No.1538416]

>>1529904
>not borrowing tools from friends family and neighbors
Lrn 2 jew

[Anonymous No.1538420]

>>1530148
I helped my dad build a couple retaining walls out of pressure treated 6x6. His cordless Dewalts were managing but they kept getting hot so we'd have to rest em and drink a beer between, he had plenty of battery power though.

We borrowed a bigger corded drill from his buddy and were far less drunk by the end of the night.

[Anonymous No.1538448]

>>1530455
t. T.J. "Henry" Yoshi

[Anonymous No.1538449]

>>1535936
>not having a gigantic compressor that sounds like a tractor in their bedroom

plebs, amirite

[Anonymous No.1538453]

>>1538449
You should try turning it off before bed. It'll probably save you money on electric too

[Beppu No.1538463]

>>1538416
>having to rely on other men’s tools to satisfy your wife when she needs something taken care of at home

>>1538449
I always thought if I’m ever rich and building a custom mansion, I’m going to have them run air hoses through the wall and every outlet will have two electrical plugs and an air connection.

[Anonymous No.1538577]

>>1538463
I don't got a wife to satisfy. I use the money I saved from borrowing your tools to pay your wife to satisfy me

[Anonymous No.1538587]

>>1538463

That sounds very steampunk. You could also set up a pneumatic tube system in the mansion to communicate with the butlers

[Beppu No.1538592]

>>1538577
She wouldn’t even give a drill-less man the time of day.

>>1538587
And one going to my mailbox. Just in case the butler calls in sick one day, the mailman drops it in the box and it gets launched to my den. I’m sick and tired of walking to that damn mailbox like some animal.

[Anonymous No.1538647]

>>1529904
I’ve got like 12 drills and/or drivers I need help.

[Beppu No.1538649]

>>1538647
I have too many as well. I made my brother take one a few months ago and he was just confused. I told him one day maybe he will find a use for it, and the battery will be dead by then.

[Anonymous No.1538821]

>>1531741
>Learn what "false economy" means. Just spending as little as possible per purchase isn't efficient per se.

He's Greek. If he had learned anything economy, he would have left by now.

[Anonymous No.1539614]

>>1538449
Have you ever heard how loud a fucking air drill is? I got a matco one i use for snapped off turbo housing bolts.

[Anonymous No.1539617]

>>1530143
Fuck off, boomer.

[Anonymous No.1539738]

>>1529887
>buy a shitty product
>shocked when it's shitty

[Anonymous No.1539742]

>>1538647
>>1538649
I physically can't stop buying more unneeded platforms for my 20v Dewalt system.

I got a damn shopvac ffs, why I have like 10 vacs but I saw it on sale and I'm like I got 5 batteries why not get more platforms!


please send help

[Anonymous No.1539743]

>thinks he's saving money by buying garbage
>ends up spending even more trying to fix it when it breaks
You asked for it, pal

[Anonymous No.1539746]

I've always been impressed with ikea stuff. If you didn't abuse that drill trying to drill concrete and just put together cabinets with it like it's designed for, it would probably have lasted a while.

[Anonymous No.1541376]

>>1530148
Ghost ride the whip

[Anonymous No.1541471]

>>1530499
That reminds me of a mining museum in Tyrol that had those drills. Takes a hell of a lot of hits before you get it done. Thanks for reminding me that.

[Anonymous No.1541498]

So i bought a brand new, sealed in box *original dremel* and the thing is acting weirdly. If i put it on the lowest speed the RPM varies wildly at random intervals. First it starts slow, then revs up to a medium high setting, slows down, then back to medium etc. Obviously there's a problem with the speed control switch, but that's the type of shit you'd expect from a chinese non-name tool. This is supposed to be a classy brand-name product made by mexicans, what's the deal? Has anyone else dealt with this issue?

[Anonymous No.1541531]

>>1529887
>Most powerful drill is 45 euros
I'm no expert on the Greek economy but I bought a halfway decent drill for $40 in Canada, came with like 40 bits or something crazy like that

[Beppu No.1541544]

>>1541498
Shitty ones slip through the cracks. With Dremel, maybe you got the 1 out of 1000 defective tools. If you were to try a Chicago Electric from HF, it’s probably like a 1 in 20 chance you will get a busted one fresh out of the box.

Dremel is still consumer tier sold by a large corporation.

>>1539742
I feel ya. The worst thing is that all of it will become obsolete when DeWalt SB&D releases their new 22v line.

[Beppu No.1541546]

>>1541531
The most powerful drill sold at the mecca of shitty particle board flat pack furniture- Ikea

ffs, even Walmart sells Bostitch drills

[Anonymous No.1541553]

>>1541544

I was looking at Proxxon ones and they seemed much better quality, but also a lot less serviceable - you can't replace the brushes or anything, and spare parts are harder to find. At least a new switch for a Dremel is like 8-10$...

[Beppu No.1541582]

>>1541553
The big selling point on Dremel as well- the accessories. You can turn your Dremel into like 200 different tools. Of course the basic bits will fit in whatever cheap rotary tool, but can you turn it into a router or knife sharpener?

[Anonymous No.1541632]

>>1529887
>Frugal
>Cant please wife with house projects
>Has no drill or power tools

Pretty sure op is going to get cucked by blacks or Mohameds in a near future.

[Anonymous No.1541661]

>>1529900
(((Greeks))) aka A-rabs are poor as heck, their women are hairy.

[Anonymous No.1542273]

>>1529887
Just return it. Ikea literally takes back anything.
You can bring back already assembled furniture and tell them you didn't like how it looked in the room and they'll give you your money back.

[Anonymous No.1543629]

>>1529887
>drilling concrete without power drill

[Anonymous No.1543750]

>>1530499
Jesus, its sad i had to go down so many fucking posts to finally find ONE person here who knows WTF they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.1543904]

>>1530455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMY4lkcCqE

faggoloth you should die

[Anonymous No.1544008]

>>1530144
That drill won't help OP with concrete.

[Anonymous No.1544611]

>>1529887
Masonry bit + hammer drill.

[Anonymous No.1544624]

Hammer drill ain't shit for concrete. Block and masonry? Sure. But no way for concrete. You need a rotary hammer.

[Anonymous No.1544841]

>mfw I bought Makita hp1640 as my first drill 2 days ago for $75 and managed to hang bookshelf on reinforced concrete commieblock wall

[Beponymous No.1544868]

>>1544841
Good job anon.

I made my sister buy a Black & Decker cordless a couple months back and I gifted my little brother an old B&D 14VnI had plus a multimeter.

He was like “What do I need these for?” and the kid isin his mid 20s with his own apartment. When he first moved in, I bought his ass a tool kid with sockets and a hammer and all that too.

[Anonymous No.1544953]

You aren't frugal. Your cheap. And try buying power tools at a real tool store. You spent 45 euros?? Big deal. A real quality drill is gonna be around 100bucks or more. I laugh when I see guys pull up to a job site with a whole RYOBI tool set... LMFAO! Dude, buy some MAN tools! Dewalt, milwaki, Makita, Grainger, etc. The drill you bought was a cheap useless piece of shit that a woman keeps around the house for quick fixes. I swear more guys these days are straight females. Can't change their own oil, can't fix a flat, can't buy a decent tool. BAKA.

[Anonymous No.1544965]

>>1544953
>he let corporate shills take control of his perception of gender

[Anonymous No.1545001]

>>1544953

Ok, we get it, you're a *man*

[Anonymous No.1545195]

>>1531244
ME NIGGA

[Anonymous No.1545213]

This seems like a case of tool misuse, however, I've always heard: "Buy cheap first. If it breaks, then buy quality" The reason is that if your cheap tool lasts, you probably don't use it often enough to justify spending big on a quality tool

[Anonymous No.1545230]

>>1529887
that's what you get for buying cheap chinese shit.

[Beponymous No.1545252]

>>1545213
Meh; that’s a shitty theory to apply to all tool purchases. There are lots of tools where the cheap ones will last, but they don’t do the job well. Like you can buy the $10 WorkPro screwdrivers but you will strip so many screws that a mid range set like the diamond tip FatMax set for $25 would have been a better value.

[Anonymous No.1546130]

should have bought this one, this one has a hammer
still doubt very much if it is sufficient for concrete..

https://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/catalog/products/30232895/

[Anonymous No.1546137]

>>1544965
>>1545001
despite bringing masculinity and identity concepts into the picture, this anon has a point. It helps to save some cash, and good tools can seem costly. However, if this is something you will be using regularly, getting something better definitely pays its way going forward, saving you time, energy and nerves. That being said, do not assume something is inherrently better simply because it costs more. Go with what is proven and dont be afraid to buy second hand.

>>1546130
Please phone a friend on this one. Anyone who works construction or does their own projects will either have tools to lend or knows someone with tools to lend. If you're going to be using it more frequently to warrant a purchase, I would look around flea markets for secondhand tools.

[Anonymous No.1546139]

>>1546137
god my posts are hard to read, my apollogies

[Anonymous No.1546596]

>>1546130
for small holes in concrete it'll be fine, enough for spaghetti plugs or small anchor bolts or whatever

[Anonymous No.1546599]

>>1545252
parents gave me cheap stuff when i was growing up and needed tools so i had it mostly figured out by the time i was an adult and needed to buy good shit

[Anonymous No.1546609]

>>1530455
Oh shit I keked so hard.
He meant impact drill.
As the drill spins there is a mechanism inside which acts as a hammer.
Look them up.
They are indeed a thing and very much necessary for drilling holes cement.

[Anonymous No.1546640]

>>1529887
>ikea
it's literally a 1 euro store with jewish markups