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Building a disaster cache. Something that contains, besides a few other things, a Laptop with with E-Books and Software related to various Topics People might need/find useful post-disaster.

(Yes, I'm aware that the lifetime of digital data and electronics is limited, will still do it though)

Even though I already have a lot on Egineering, Metalworks, Mathematics and smart people most likely could reverse-engineer various things based on pictures and formulas, I'd still like to add more ready to use designs.

Thus, for now I'm asking if you can provide some CAD files/ Blueprints to Engines (preferable Diesel). Some time ago some anon posted files related an opposed piston engine he designed/built, but I didn't find it again when I searched for it.

If you have other stuff you think could be useful, feel free to post it but right now my main concern is getting a working engine design.

>> No.1458575

>>1458551
There are travel solar panels for hikers. You may want one of those to help charge your laptop. Don't skimp on price or power, so no slow boat from Chinese Amazon deals or you'll really hate the results. Read lots of reviews before purchasing.

My recommendations:

"Build Your Own Metal Working Shop From Scrap" by Dave Gingery
"The Knowledge: How to Rebuild Civilization in the Aftermath of a Cataclysm" by Lewis Dartnell
"First Aid for the USMLE Step 1 2017" by Tao Le & Vikas Bhushan (the 2018 kindle version sucks, but if you get paperback get the 2018 version)
"Internal Combustion Engines: A Detailed Introduction to the Thermodynamics of Spark and Compression Ignition Engines, Their Design and Development" by Rowland S. Benson & N. D. Whitehouse
"Small Engines" by R. Bruce Radcliff

https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/foodwater/facts.html

http://www.plans-for-everything.com/hen_ic_engine_plans.html
http://www.plans-for-everything.com/hen_steam_engine_plans.html
http://www.plans-for-everything.com/htr_automobile_plans.html

>> No.1458596

>>1458575
>solar panels
I'm adding a small panel (battery pack) but since you'll need sun and this might be not ideal in winter... I also added a hand-crank dynamo for mobiles. The laptop is intel atom based and can be charged with that thing (took a while to find a 5V one though) and it can run around 9-10h fully charged.

Otherwise, thanks I'll look into your links/suggestions.

>> No.1458615

>>1458596
>not ideal in winter

"Ideal" when it comes to solar panels is a bit of a misnomer. While they can't get 100%, while dirty or cloudy, they are still a shit load better than cranking and work all day long. That trade off alone is well worth it. I know since I have a pedal charger that I can use to charge anything up to and including a car battery. It is a shit load of work and solar charging is well worth it. Having both is also good though, nothing wrong with that. It is just that during a disaster, it is better to conserve your body's energy than to squander it, if you don't need to.

>> No.1459161

>>1458551
Could horde junk engines and parts if u got the space. Buy a bunch of natural gas converion shit. If you can find an old gas well or enough solar to run a pumpjack that produces gas for a short amount of time you should be good to roll.

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1459168

>>1459161
>Could horde junk engines and parts if u got the space.

does nobody on 4chan ever get married?

>> No.1459174

>>1458551
Do you want to keep it just at machines, engines, metalwork or do you want to collect info about basic house building/repairs, basic tool building, material retieval like metals, wood, machine parts and basic woodworking in general?

Basic knowledge about woodwork should not be underestimated in rebuilding after a disaster, look at Europe after WW2.

>> No.1459273

>>1459161
If I had more money I'd probaby do that natural gas conversion because, in gastanks, it can be stored for a longer time compared to other thing. Only for myself though.

Simple Diesel Engines can run with plant oil, some even with alcohol. This basically means, after one harvest those engines already can be used even if no access to fossil fuels is avaible.

>>1459174
I'll take whatever I can get. My most extensive collection is in woodworking/carving/wood construction because it was avaible. Other subject vary in completeness. It usually covers the theoretical part up to a very high level at the very least, however the practical application part usually is rather difficult to aquire. In regards to tools, one could learn how to make tools, calculate and choose the right materials but not much on designs for specific application or prior inventions (other then the theoretical examples used in those textbooks).

I made sure to get my hands on Geology and Mining related subjects too. It's not much but it seems to cover the basics (even though in a disaster you'd expect quite a bit of broken stuff that could be repurposed/melted and wouldn't pressure you to do mining anytime soon)

>> No.1459317

OP just store a Mercedes 240D in your cache. Can be made to run on almost anything and is simple. Slow, but will get you from A to B on nearly any fuel and dead nuts reliable. Use it as a generator and shelter when the transmission or tires give out. Glow plugs may fuck you though.

>> No.1460572

>>1458575
>"The Knowledge: How to Rebuild Civilization in the Aftermath of a Cataclysm" by Lewis Dartnell

The author did a TEDx talk on his book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRbsl4Bkvc

>> No.1460806

>>1460572
>one book
While I just started watching your video, I already call bullshit. It's not even funny how many gigabytes of Books I collected on the very basics. Not only "survival" and crafting/ trades/herbalistic but also homeschooling and paths that lead to higher knowledge like medicine/engineering.... Even then I'm frustrated how many important details are "restricted" to aquire. Either because of trade-secrets, copyright/patents or simply because it's too expensive for me get.

I pretty confident what I collected will not only let those using it survive but substain and thrive. This cannot compare to a "lel, kindle with 10.000 most useful books, hurr". I'm already over 3 Terrabytes (well, there is also professional and specilized software) and it still doesn't cover modern society as it is now. The knowledge and Technology lost is depressing. People will have no choice to think for themselves and (re-)invent things. For now, all I can do is digging up some "secrets" so they'll have at least one thing (like a diesel engine) they could build right away and improve or modify later on.

I think, I really dislike those TED-Talks. Those are more like Propaganda and (not even) dangerous half-knowledge than useful in any way.

>> No.1460808

>>1460806
It'll be OK. Thousands of people and organizations are already doing this better than you.

Btw, the biggest obstacle to rebooting civilization will be energy. And we'll need a lot fewer people for that to be practical.

>> No.1460813

>>1460808
>organizations
I trust nobody. Even if my attempts to preserve knowledge are lacking or are even pathetic in comparrision, if it can give my people the freedom to decide their own future where the alternative is to become slaves to some (((organization))), then what I have done was worth it.

>> No.1460824

>>1458551
>not building a personal coal powered generator

>> No.1460828

Sodium Polyacrylate. Put some in the cache to absorb any moisture.

>> No.1460835

>>1460824
I've got schematics to stirling engines which can be powered by heat. They're easy to build and less dangerous to steam engines. Still, not as efficient or mobile compared to diesel and at best temporary or additional solutions.

>> No.1460852

>>1460835
What is the point of having schematics for building diesel engines anyway?
There are plenty of engines to go around for the next thousand years.

Consumables like filters and gasket material will be in short supply, and most importantly, people skilled enough to work on fuel injection pumps.
They are the most complicated and fragile part of the engine and almost always the reason why engines that have been sitting for the winter will not start.

You are better off getting a book like Marine Diesel Engines by Nigel Calder, and a few manuals for the popular, simple engines in your region.
Perkins engines like the 4.203 or 4.108 are a good place to start, and extremely common in tractors, forklifts, boats, and older cars from Land-Rover to Alfa Romeo.

>> No.1460916

>>1460852
>There are plenty of engines to go around
sure, but in case of EMP their ECUs and other electric parts are dead.

>> No.1461412

>>1460916
This is overblown bullshit. Most ecus are sitting in Faraday cages and not that fragile to begin with.

>> No.1461414

>>1459168


>divorced

>> No.1461443

>>1461412
the moment a cable passes through the cage it's broken for emp. no, a car may deal with lightning but usually not emp.

>> No.1461479

>>1461443
Still overblown bullshit and even if it wasn't, it isn't exactly difficult to find engines without ECU.

>> No.1461506

>>1460916
>sure, but in case of EMP their ECUs and other electric parts are dead.

Engines mentioned ,and many others, have only two electrical components that can fail, and both are solenoids that can be replaced in under an hour..

Once controls the glow plug heaters, and switches on when the dashboard is in the ON position. This solenoid can easily be replaced, or bypassed with a single heavy gauge live wire. Heaters are only needed to warm up the engine for pre-ignition, and only when starting from cold

The other is a solenoid on the fuel injection pump, that shuts off fuel supply, energized by a single live wire when the dashboard is in the ON position.
Since almost all fuel injection pumps have a mechanical stop lever, this can also be bypassed.

Are you a Euro or a Burger? I can give you a list of engines to look out for, and where to find them.

>> No.1461512

>>1461506
you forgot the coil and the electronic to produce a sparc, which would also be fried including the pumps. but yes, if there is nothing as complicated as a direct fuel injection (as this needs a "computer" to work) then such engines can be repaired relatively easy. however those are already hard to come by because of "muh, efficiency, muh global warming".

I personaly have not problem to find one engine that I could make use of, problem is, if the community I'll live in needs some and the useful ones are already taken.

>> No.1461530

>>1461512
No such thing as spark in a diesel. Ignition is done through compression of the fuel/air mix until it is hot enough to to spontaneously ignite.
I've actually never worked seriously on a benzine engine so I literally have no idea about their electronic systems aside from the basics.

On older diesels, there is also no electronic lift pump that pulls fuel from the tank.
Fuel is delivered to the injection pump either through a suction effect like a siphon, or a small pump inside the injection pump, or using a camshaft driven diaphragm pump.

>> No.1461534

>>1461512
If you’re looking for a Diesel engine with an ignition system, you’ll be looking for a very long time.
Diesels need a fuel pump, and glow plugs to start up. That’s it. Engine speed is regulated by fuel flow. This is why diesels are the best engines to hoard in the event of a nuclear event as they have no fragile electronics to fry.

>> No.1461564

>>1461530
>>1461534
right, diesel compression. mixed it up by thinking basic two stroke diesel but imagine two stroke gasoline. my bad.

>> No.1461640

>>1459168
Im married.

>What is rural living.

I got all my shit hid in the woods by my house

>> No.1461644

>>1459273
Should learn how to make shine. You coukd probably diy your own steam engines from trash if need be. Still lightyears ahead of manual labor

>> No.1461645

>>1460813
Nothing wrong with being prepared. Who knows, uncle sam could ban internet one day or something

>> No.1461873

>>1458551
OP is so going to try to sell these files to people he meets and end dead in a ditch or in chunks waiting to be cooked. They'll probably delete your cache to make room for porn.

>> No.1461908

This was a book idea of mine. Basically a step by step guide from nothing to modern civilization. Now of course it is impossible to cover everything in detail, but a lot can be covered with a few thousand pages. Likely still needs multiple volumes.

>> No.1462102

>>1461908
Will it include it be typed up on A4 paper, and include pitiful, hand drawn, and badly photocopied sketches of wind turbines?

>> No.1462115

>>1461873
>sell
Nah, I'll be setting up a library, more or less. I depends on the ressources avaible and amount of damage technology overall recieved.

The included laptop can be used to browse the content (intended mainly for survival/food topics). But I'd really like to copy the contend to other/multiple other HDDS as soon as possible
to relieve any "greed" and to have obviously backups. Once there is a community that can direct manpower to other things then procuring food, it would make sense to print the books and start educating/specializing for jobs.

If it's really bad, I can use a touch-tablet (also included) as public terminal to access the books served from the laptop over wifi/wire. Then nobody can 'accidently' delete content.