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Cheap but decent 3D printer for a newb?

Been stock piling ideas for a little over a year, time to get a 3D printer but i'm not sure where to start. Any ideas?

>> No.1411340

>but i'm not sure where to start
You can start by asking in the 3d printing general instead of making a brand new thread, where you'll get much more info and more replies.

>> No.1411375

>>1411329
>makerbot
not makerbot

>> No.1411539

Flashforge Dreamer or Creator Pro
Both are mid-range printers and good for newb

>> No.1411601

>>1411329
Cheap
Good
Easy to use

Pick one.

>> No.1411615

My Flashforge Finder was 300 and it's still running strong

>> No.1411618

>>1411539
>>1411615
>recommending flashforge

What is this, 2012 when they were the first to copy a design and chink it out cheaper?
They arent good printers, them being a cheap knockoff was the only thing going for them in the first place.

go to the general

>> No.1411713

Anet a8
140€
Works.

>> No.1411714

>>1411713
Burns your house down.

>> No.1411742

>>1411329
Creality Ender 3

$200.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvAuMU30dPU

>> No.1411816

>>1411618

I have both and they are still working flawlessly
dunno what are u talking about m8

>> No.1411835

>>1411816
Did I say anything about them working correctly or not?
I said their whole claim to fame was stealing a printer design and making it cheaper.

Now their newer designs arent at all worth the money their earlier printers set a precedent for (because printers were a lot more expensive back then). They are not high quality printers regardless of their price tag.

>>1411714
And a flashforge using the same open source hardware and software wont?

>> No.1413359

>>1411329
Prusia i3 mk2
Printrbot simple metal

>> No.1413818
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>>1411329
Damnit, I think I want a 3d printer for rapid prototyping some of my parts.

It's gotta be faster than designing and machining a fixture to hold them every damn time I change the model.

What's the best 3d printer you guys have around $300 ?

>> No.1414345

Bump

>> No.1414699

Anyone have suggestions for a 3d printer that can do really small details really well and isn't over $200? Maybe $300 if it can print metal.

>> No.1414914

>>1413818
Buy one of the kits like anet a8, they have big communities around them and are dirt cheap because they are ikea packaged

>> No.1414915

>>1414699
>Maybe $300 if it can print metal.
HAHAHA
nice one son.
good luck with that
$300 is bottom tier range for kit 3d printers, you won't even get a middle class plastic printer for that, let alone one that prints metal
stop being so poor or VERY deeply drop your expectations

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>>1414914
>anet a8

>> No.1414931

>>1414926
If you can't take the heated bed stay out of the oven.

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>>1414931

>> No.1414951

>>1414937
There is literally not a single printer with 0 problems

>> No.1414978

>>1414699
>Maybe $300 if it can print metal

Thanks for the kek
Any printer capable of reliably printing metal is going to be over $10,000

But you can use PLA filament to do investment casting if you're crafty

>> No.1415240

>>1414978
I understand the basic science at work with 3d printing. It basically pisses a line of liquid hot material in a 2d image a bunch of times and makes a 3d image.
There's no way it could cost much more to print metal instead of plastic. You just get a hotter pisser for the aluminium. Maybe a little more expensive to produce parts in a metal with a higher heat tolerance, but nowhere near 10,000 when the plastic ones go for under half a grand. I'd maybe raise my price to 500 and lower my expectations to expect a bit more finishing work than a ready made prototype hot of the press. I have hand tools and can file down ridged and imperfections.
Any suggestions with that in mind? If it can do metal, I'm sold.

>> No.1415244

>>1415240
actually far more complicated then that. Molten metals are VERY different from molten plastic

>> No.1415247

>>1415240
>There's no way it could cost much more to print metal instead of plastic
show /diy/ how it's done then. I wanna see your $1000 metal 3d printer.

>> No.1415283

>>1415240
Why do people that have no idea about what they're talking about have such strong opinions ?

>> No.1415311

>>1415240
Metals are annoying. Plastic is easy. The end.

>> No.1415320

>>1415240
>I know nothing about the topic I'm opining on: The Post
>or possible troll, IDK

The long and short of it isn't that the higher heat is a problem (even though it's definitely not helping). The problem is that metals don't have a temperature at which they're semisolid. They go straight from solid to liquid, and an absolute requirement of current FDM technology is that the material you're working with has to have a soft, sticky state so that it can be extruded and bond to itself well. Never even mind any oxidation problems.

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>>1414937
It's just a matter of what you're looking for...

>> No.1415615

>>1411329
Prusa iSomething with upgraded extruder and heated glass bed. Best value, best community.

>> No.1415675

>>1415283
Dunning-kruger effect
It's the logical fallacy that states a direct inverse with intelligence to confidence
Basically the dumber someone is(about a specific topic) the more certain they are about their ability or knowledge, and the opposite is true, the more an individual knows about the topic the more likely they are to question their ability or methods

>> No.1415734

>>1414914
He wants to print stuff and not use it as a hobby and tinker for month with it. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

>>1413818
If you dont need more than 8"x8"x9.5" build volume, go with a Ender 3, should be a bit more than 200$ at gearbest or banggood, good solid machone. If you need 13"x13"x15" build volume go with a Tronxy x5s, but you need to change some stuff on them to get them to their full potential.

>> No.1415778

>>1415240
>Y-you're all wrong, I know SCIENCE!
Kek'd

>>1415320
This.

>> No.1415884

>>1415240
>Any suggestions with that in mind? If it can do metal, I'm sold.
Two drills, Fresnel lense, duct tape drive belts, a squeegee, mortar and pestle, and a weld mask.

>> No.1415891

Anyone have experience with a Wanhao D7?
What kind of lifespan on the consumable parts?

>> No.1415925

>>1415240
cnc mig welder, results will be shit though

>> No.1416060

>>1411329

I've got the Creality CR-10S (upgraded version of CR-10). I wanted a cheap printer that had a big print bed for some projects I had in mind. This one has a 12 x 12 x 16 print area. I've been printing almost exactly a year now and love this printer. I got it from Tiny-Machines in the states who imports from china, tests and warranties them for $625 shipped in the US. This printer also has an amazing facebook community with answers to just about anything you can think of printer related.

The parts come out well enough that I've sold enough things to pay for the printer already. I got it as a hobby, but my god has it become the best toy I've ever purchased. I print a few things a week just for little things around the house. Cane holder for my dear old crippie dad by the door so he stops forgetting it, desk clamps for my labels, etc. It's amazing having an idea, modeling it and having a working prototype (or final product) in your hand in a few hours.

If you are on a tighter budget, the Creality Ender-3 is supposed to be great for the money as well. I've never tested it though.

>> No.1416061

>>1415925

They have 3D printers that print metal. It's a metal powder that gets sintered when finished. Results are amazing, but as you expected... expensive as shit.

I like your idea though and I agree, if you don't mind some serious cleaning up and finishing work, it would be great. Basically a mig/tig welder (not sure which one) with an X, Y & Z axis movement.

>> No.1416070

>>1411601
>>1415615

I can absolutely recommend the Prusa i3 Mk3, the "convenience features" are great for beginners. Well, cheap is something else entirely.