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Power tools Anonymous Sat Apr 21 06:27:58 2018 No.1372632 [Reply] [Original]

What are you using?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 07:45:41 2018 No.1372648 The finest Lidl and Aldi have to offer, when they have them to offer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 07:57:30 2018 No.1372653 All Makita everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 08:13:24 2018 No.1372659 Hitachi. Is handy, reasonably priced and works like charm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 08:14:20 2018 No.1372660 File: 13 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Manual. The power is in my arms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 08:25:04 2018 No.1372665 My mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 09:46:22 2018 No.1372686 File: 210 KB, 1884x1060, 2018-04-21 15.45.16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bosch masterrace reporting in

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 10:17:35 2018 No.1372696 >>1372632 DeWalt mostly with a couple Makita's

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:05:12 2018 No.1372711 >>1372686 proxxon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:07:18 2018 No.1372712 All Ridgid all day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:21:27 2018 No.1372725 File: 5 KB, 218x218, 56875689769876.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the pink ones

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:46:02 2018 No.1372749 >>1372632 reminder a $20 corded drill btfo a $100 cordless >and wont need replacement batteries

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:52:53 2018 No.1372754 >>1372632 Ryobi. Just like my clothing, I only work with the best child labor has to offer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:09:07 2018 No.1372766 20v Porter Cable all the way. >3 drills Only complaint is the Chuck could grab better. >2 impacts Like a boss. >2 sawsalls Tigersaw=GOLDEN! >2 angle grinders Use a lot of power, but no problem cutting concrete or block, and cuts stainless like butter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:17:32 2018 No.1372772 >>1372711 Yes Sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 13:01:07 2018 No.1372794 File: 204 KB, 1500x1500, dewalt impact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372632 used one of these this morning

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 13:24:19 2018 No.1372811 >>1372632 Almost everything is Dewalt. Love the stuff, has never failed me. Only issue is they attract bees in the summer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 13:25:22 2018 No.1372812 >>1372794 How many nails did you hammer in with it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 13:29:15 2018 No.1372816 File: 608 KB, 1000x1000, MAKITA_18V_LI-ION_1.6MM_METAL_SHEAR,_DJS101Z_(BARE_UNIT).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also works as a hammer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 14:09:21 2018 No.1372832 >>1372794 >not the XR Toss that weak shit into the trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 14:33:38 2018 No.1372848 File: 19 KB, 123x261, 616541456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372832 >disposing working tools

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 14:37:02 2018 No.1372851 >>1372632 a shitty craftsman i found in the garbage. has lasted me 6 years of home use. good for hammering lag bolts into wood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 14:38:15 2018 No.1372854 >>1372816 i just bought an industrial air powered nibbler for a job i'm doing. fucking thing is a beast. chewing through UST's like they're made of paper

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 15:13:33 2018 No.1372880 File: 199 KB, 1500x1500, cordless router.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i also use it to drill holes

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 15:33:06 2018 No.1372889
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>Better than you need tier:
Hilti, Mac, Fein, Festool/Protool, Ingersol Rand, Snap On, Professional Panasonics, Nemo Underwater

> "Good drill" tier
Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Blue Bosch, Hitatchi, Metabo

>"high end home-use" tier
24v Kobalt, Ridgid

>good enough for around the house tier
Ryobi, porter cable, black and decker, craftsman, Worx, 20v Kobalt, Stanley

>Chinese flea market tier
Chicago Electric, Wen, Hercules, Bauer, Earthquake

>literally who tier
Greenworks, Genesis, Rockwell, Triton, everything else

personally i use Milwaukee M12 stuff, i like how compact and straightforward all their tools are and having small portable tools for quick jobs is more important for me than a big chunky beast to run on a jobsite all day.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 16:03:47 2018 No.1372898

>Things where accuracy is important:
Makita
Sometimes Bosch

>General purpose but still has to be okay build quality
Dewalt or any of the other main brands/whatever is on sale

>Occasional use, quality not important
Mastercraft (Canadian Tire's brand)
Wen (cheap and i'm routinely surprised by how well their stuff holds up to abuse)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:21:58 2018 No.1372941 >>1372772 German? Never seen proxxon outside of Germany. https://youtu.be/gmvxeogv93M

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:31:00 2018 No.1372950 Milwaukee. Just picked up the band saw about 30 minutes ago when going in for a rotosplit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:33:13 2018 No.1372953 >>1372889 isnt stanley just rebranded dewalt?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:35:56 2018 No.1372955 File: 3.66 MB, 3024x3024, 20180421_163524.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372950 Forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:43:20 2018 No.1372958 >>1372889 >Impact driver AND drill What am I missing here? Is it some American thing where it's necessary to have one of each? What situation would you encounter often enough that a drill wasn't enough to drive a screw to need an impact driver?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:44:52 2018 No.1372960 >>1372958 >he doesn't have a hammer drill Wew lad

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:54:36 2018 No.1372964 >>1372960 hammer drill =/= impact driver also >implying

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:57:22 2018 No.1372965 >>1372964 So you either have one or the other. Impact is better for torque while the other is used for drilling/hammering. Why wouldn't you have both?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 17:59:16 2018 No.1372966 >>1372632 Ryobi, and lots off brand cheap shit on Amazon. It works and Im not paying extra for a name. You fucking brand faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:02:15 2018 No.1372968 >>1372965 Because every single impact driver I've seen can only fit hex bits, whereas hammer drills all have chucks? You're not going to fit a masonry bit into an impact driver...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:07:54 2018 No.1372972 >>1372968 Whoa it's almost for that exact reason we have both

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:10:10 2018 No.1372974 >>1372972 And my point is, why not have a regular drill (which can seemingly do everything an impact driver can do) and a hammer drill? Why buy a fucking useless impact driver? Maybe read what I posted?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:13:15 2018 No.1372976 >>1372974 Why wouldn't you just use that hammer drill for a torque drill then? Oh because THEY OFFER DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS you mongoloid. It's the same reason I own a SDS alongside my hammer drill.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:18:16 2018 No.1372977 [DELETED]

>>1372976
Because manyof the hammer drills I've encountered are mains driven, whereas regular drills are usually cordless. Both have different uses. I'm not going to go to the effort of setting up a fucking transformer to use a hammer drill to make a tiny hole when a cordless regular one can do that.

>Cordless regular: Drilling regular holes and

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:22:36 2018 No.1372981

>>1372976
Because many of the hammer drills I've encountered are mains driven, whereas regular drills are usually cordless. Both have different uses. I'm not going to go to the effort of setting up a fucking transformer to use a hammer drill to make a tiny hole when a cordless regular one can do that.

>Cordless regular: Drilling regular holes and driving screws
>Hammer Drill: Drilling into concrete
>Impact driver: Seemingly nothing a cordless drill can't already do for regular work, CON: can only fit hex bits

As I already asked: Why bother owning an impact driver at all unless you meet gnarly fucking screws on the regular? Can you read, spastic?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:25:12 2018 No.1372982 File: 3.27 MB, 3024x3024, 20180421_172317.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372977 Damn I really have to run that cord to start this hammer drill up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:27:14 2018 No.1372984 >>1372981 Impact offers more torque and is not used for its hammering function. Are you fucking brain dead? I already have you your fucking answer.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:27:58 2018 No.1372986

>>1372982
>Because many of the hammer drills I've encountered are mains driven
Learn to read before writing, nigger. Of course there are cordless hammer drills but they're impractical if you're drilling deep into concrete, which is pretty much one of the only reasons to use a hammer drill over a regular.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:32:22 2018 No.1372988

>>1372984
So how often do you encounter a regular cordless drill that doesn't have the torque to drive a screw out of interest? Because I just drill a hole wide enough to accommodate the screw before driving the screw into it like a non-brainlet.
The improved torgue an impact driver offers is a retarded compromise for not being able use anything but hex bits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:33:09 2018 No.1372990 >>1372986 And the main reason to use an impact over a regular is for the torque. That hammer drill isn't even for the big concrete shit I do, which is what the SDS is for. It's mostly used for drilling holes in metal

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:36:00 2018 No.1372992 >>1372988 >needing to drill the hole out before using a fastener >having shit torque when using sockets

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:38:45 2018 No.1372993 File: 25 KB, 366x380, shit nigger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372992 >only owning an impact driver >drilling a screw directly into wood because you can't use a drill bit

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:40:46 2018 No.1372995 File: 18 KB, 487x499, sim.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372964 >he doesnt have a brushless hybrid impact hammer drill/driver plebs

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:43:11 2018 No.1372997 File: 5 KB, 225x225, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372968 >You're not going to fit a masonry bit into an impact driver... get gud fgt

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:45:21 2018 No.1372998 >>1372993 It's like I'm arguing for owning both or something dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:47:01 2018 No.1373000 File: 867 KB, 3280x1845, Picture 52.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372995 >Hammer drill Fit this bit in it then. >Oh wait.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:47:30 2018 No.1373002
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>>1372993
are you really so poor you cant buy hex shank drill bits? even in a regular jacob's chuck hex shanks are superior to standard round bits, the teeth can grip them more tightly and distribute the torque across a flat surface.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:47:51 2018 No.1373004 File: 3.51 MB, 3024x3024, 20180421_174701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372997 Come on man, don't download your images to prove him wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:48:32 2018 No.1373006 >>1373000 see >>1372997

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:50:41 2018 No.1373008 >>1373004 i have a couple hammer drills but would never get bits to use in them when i have a perfectly good Ryobi SDS Plus cordless rotary hammer (got it for $50).

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:52:49 2018 No.1373010

>>1373004
>>1373002
It took a full fucking hour but you've finally shown me why impact drivers aren't worthless. I don't know whether to applaud or weep. All you had to say is you can get masonry bits with a hex fitting rather than "HURR BETTER TORQUE" over and over. Jesus fucking Christ the delay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:53:18 2018 No.1373011 >>1373008 I use these in >>1372982 when I have to put in a few sleeve anchors in and don't want to drag out the SDS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 18:56:00 2018 No.1373013 >>1373010 The torque is why you buy an impact you colossal faggot. You can purchase all the same bits except for a unibit (to my knowledge) for an impact. My fucking arbor for hole saws can be attached to my impact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 19:01:19 2018 No.1373018 File: 1001 KB, 3280x1845, Picture 53.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1373013 This is what comes to mind when for most people when they think of hex bits though, which is why you could see I was wrong.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 19:28:45 2018 No.1373040

Why anyone would use a hex ended masonry bit in an impact is beyond me, masonry is all about hammer, do impacts do hammer?
Not surprised you don't understand the need for an impact if the biggest masonry bit you have fits a hex end, try driving some big boy screws with a cordless drill, yes with a pilot, as small as 5 or 6 size drill will fatigue pretty quickly, especially if you try a half driven screw without the run up it's torture. Also if you have one for drilling and one for driving, not having to fucking swap out bits every few minutes makes you Bertie big balls, never look back. Ever tried loosening rusty bolts or nuts? Try an axle nut or a crankshaft nut, impact pays for itself first time out of the box.
If you understand what it does and how it works you will have a better chance at picking the right tool for the job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 19:31:16 2018 No.1373044 >>1373040 I tried to tell him the torque is why you purchase an impact with my very first response but he refused to listen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 20:00:23 2018 No.1373059 >>1372941 Also yes sir!

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 20:10:27 2018 No.1373064

>>1372889
I am a carpenter and I use Ridgid. They are solid and last a long time. I have my Ryobi at home which lastede on the job for three years. I have tried to use m12 products but they are to weak for most carpentry tasks. I have one small drill for thight places and my 12v job max. Why spend money on more expensive brands when they mid-range are just as good.most contractors I work with buy expensive tools because they look good or other contractors look down on you if you don't buy the expensive brands. My son says the same thing about his clothes on middle school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 20:46:47 2018 No.1373070 >>1372632 red

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:22:55 2018 No.1373087

>>1373040
the only tool you'll actually need a hex shank masonry bit in is this Makita >>1372995 as it is a hybrid tool with both impact and hammer drill functions.

as >>1373002 say even in a regular chuck hex bits are a better option as the teeth can grip the bits more securely than a standard round bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:27:17 2018 No.1373091 >>1373064 No M, no buy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:40:49 2018 No.1373095 >>1372848 >imply that weak piece of shit is "working"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:02:59 2018 No.1373104 Are there any routers that take hex bits?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:03:55 2018 No.1373105 tfw broke my hand on the goddamned 1/2 inch drill again

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:09:49 2018 No.1373109 >>1372889 hilti is better then you need until you get into the rotary hammers rigid pipe wrenches are also the best around with decent drills

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:36:27 2018 No.1373119 File: 12 KB, 355x355, 61DysYhTLvL._SY355_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1373002 >>1372993 what now faggots?

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:47:18 2018 No.1373126

>>1373109
Makita rotary hammers are great, thats all we ever used when i worked the tool rental desk at Home Depot. they survived endless abuse from dumbass rednecks and mexicans drilling holes and chipping away at god knows what and still looked new after a quick wipe down. the only time one of them ever broke was when a guy dropped a chimney on the power cord, and that was just one quick parts swap away from running again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:01:45 2018 No.1373134 >>1373119 That chuck is a wobbly piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 00:02:20 2018 No.1373149 File: 82 KB, 900x900, 608309400189.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372958 >Is it some American thing maybe. we have all kinds of nice things. sometimes it helps to have impact to speed things along.

>>	Prez/o/ Sun Apr 22 00:11:16 2018 No.1373153 File: 557 KB, 1600x1200, IMG_3365.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] step it up faggots

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:04:48 2018 No.1373214 >>1373104 never ever seen a hex shank routing bit. u trollin matey?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:21:50 2018 No.1373219 >>1372632 nothing, my mom won't give me one

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:32:06 2018 No.1373221 >>1373214 drills went from 3-jaw chucks to hex quick change impact drivers were always hex so I just wondered if anything similar was happening in the routering world

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:35:33 2018 No.1373222 >>1373221 >drills went from 3-jaw chucks to hex quick change vast majority of drill bits at the hardware stores are still not hex shank. i would call those "drills" screwdrivers instead.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:43:06 2018 No.1373224

>>1373221
no reason to change anything, all routers use the same circular collet style that needs to be tightened down with an extra tool.

3 jaw chucks became popular on drills because they could be tightened down without an extra tool, hex shank bits already worked with extensions and specialty adaptors and they had a better grip than standard round bits. impact drivers started using 1/4 hex chucks as standard and now you can get pretty much every drill bit style with a hex shank.

i doubt we'll see any changes in routers, they are meant to be precision tools that use the same bit for extended periods of time. chucks on impact drivers are quick to use but bits are loosely held; if you want to use a different bit get your little wrench out and start cranking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 06:32:59 2018 No.1373269 >>1372898 >Sometimes Bosch come on man, i love Bosch but they had some shit QC on their 18V tools, making them fail a lot of youtube "comparisons" >Impact driver mold defect blocks switch at 70% >Cordless hammer drill chuck runout

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 06:40:52 2018 No.1373273 >>1373222 impact need hex obvious to prevent slip on drill, 3-jaw is superior to hex for the soley reason they can take tap's without a 4 point adapter

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 07:12:41 2018 No.1373284 >>1373010 Impacts are real nice to have around for putting zip screws into sheet metal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 07:51:57 2018 No.1373305 >>1372981 >Because many of the hammer drills I've encountered are mains driven, whereas regular drills are usually cordless. They have tons of battery drills with hammer functions as standard.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 08:35:11 2018 No.1373325
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Dealt for my cordless tools since I like having just one battery system. For my stationary tools, (table saw, compound miter saw, drill press, etc.) It's a mix of Bosch, DeWalt, and General International.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 09:02:35 2018 No.1373335

>>1372686
>>1372711
>>1372941
Proxxon is the good shit. Just bought the 240/E because my dremel finally shat itself/let the smoke out and I saw MarcusReps using one on his channel.
Very impressed so far and the ability to clamp it properly by the front ring and make your own accessory tools/jigs for it is bretty good.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 10:54:16 2018 No.1373378

>>1373091
I work with a carpenter who spent twice as much on all his red m compared to my orange r. He finally admitted my orange is the better deal. Guess what red makes orange and green. I still have my 5 year old green. They work great. It's all about how much money you want to spend. I am here to say Carpenters are not rich. So I am an orange guy.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 13:52:33 2018 No.1373480
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>>1373305
there are loads of proper battery powered SDS plus rotary hammers as well now, even 3 different brands of SDS Max cordless rotary hammers for getting serious stuff done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 13:54:56 2018 No.1373485 Mostly DeWalt and Milwaukee. I'm not a brand warrior but it's nice the have same brands when they chordless.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:01:17 2018 No.1373492

>>1372958
Their better for different tasks. Plus sometimes it's nice to have 2 going at the same time if you're working with things that require different bits so you don't have to keep changing the bits out. Also, if you buy them in a pack it's not even much more money than getting the single one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:04:43 2018 No.1373496 >>1372981 Impacts better for drilling small holes and way better and driving screws.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:23:57 2018 No.1373514 https://youtu.be/dGvsHyjBH7c team blue and teal on suicide watch

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:30:16 2018 No.1373522 >>1372955 >uni-bit >portaband >Milwaukee Electrician I presume

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:39:51 2018 No.1373532 >>1373514 >an hour of tool boss rambling and beat boxing god no.

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 14:46:40 2018 No.1373536

>>1373514
his biggest complaints about Makita stem from the fact that they are a japan based company and their full line of tools and batteries arnt available in the the US. Makita makes far more truly unique tools that other brands have never even thought of, but they are almost impossible to get in the US.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 08:14:30 2018 No.1374063 File: 2.04 MB, 4096x3072, IMG_20180423_141239.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Peugeot

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 10:36:42 2018 No.1374145 >>1372794 >>1372832 If your using electric impacts you're just doing it wrong

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 11:01:45 2018 No.1374163

Got the Ridgid 5 piece kit a few years back, has worked flawlessly for me every time. Would but again.

Dewalt table saw, like the rack & pinion fence slide but the actual fence is flimsy, wishing i would have gone bosch

Bosch router and router table, works great but a DIY table would be fine too

Harbor Freight 12" sliding mitre, works fine for chopping but don't expect the angles to be anywhere near perfect

Air tools are all harbor freight, don't use them that much but they do what i need

Several harbor hand freight sanders, HF 7" grinder, they're cheap and they work when i need them to

Ridgid osscilating sander (drum & belt), works great

EGO battery powered weed eater - good for small to medium yards, no hassling with gas & oil, it just works

Next purchases are probably the dewalt scroll saw and a grizzly band saw

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 12:22:57 2018 No.1374243 >>1374145 >2011 >being a hosecuck

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 12:35:16 2018 No.1374252
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i kind of have an urge to buy one of these cheap shit $40 drills on Amazon just to see what they are like and how they compare to higher end stuff.

At worst ill have an extra drill to throw around and not care about if it breaks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 12:41:51 2018 No.1374259 >>1374252 as the expensive ones are already a disappointment for anything not wood and drywall, don't put your hope high

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:43:37 2018 No.1374350 File: 93 KB, 1200x675, 61OMAJxsKGL._SL1200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This or something from Dewalt, Makita etc? Would be my first drill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 15:47:47 2018 No.1374352 >>1374350 they all perform more or less the same get the brand you can get cheaper metal chuck and >1.500 rpm is definitely a Plus

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:05:28 2018 No.1374391 >>1372653 This.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:12:38 2018 No.1374394 >>1374163 >wishing i would have gone bosch The fence is pretty darn solid, however, the mitre gauge is absolute rubbish. t. GTS 10 J

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:39:58 2018 No.1374641 >>1374243 >2018 >being a torquelet

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:39:01 2018 No.1374820 >>1374352 Thanks. I think i really over thinking this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:21:44 2018 No.1375033 Does anyone know of small drivers that have a rocker switch? My dad had a 7.2v Snap-On with a rocker switch that I really liked but I can't find anything but Snap-On with a rocker switch and those cost an arm, a leg and a firstborn child.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:31:44 2018 No.1375037 >>1374145 lick my nuts grease monkey, for the 2 times a year i need an impact the milwaukee does the job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:31:05 2018 No.1375312 >>1372632 The cheapest shit harbor freight has to offer

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:13:42 2018 No.1375339 >>1372632 ryobi and wal-mart "hyper tough" (which work well for the money) with the occasional milwaukee reciprocating saws here and there

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 01:20:47 2018 No.1375458 >>1373153 good taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:40:45 2018 No.1375928 >>1372749 Cordless wins against corded as soon as you unplug it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:43:48 2018 No.1375934 >>1372958 If your sinking tons of screws then the impact is the way to go. If your using drill bits then the impact is terrible and you need the normal drill. We have enough space to store both

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:46:12 2018 No.1375937 >>1372988 Or you know maybe I go through hundreds of screws a day and driving them faster with an impact is preferable to predrilling and then running them with a normal one in twice the time?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:07:21 2018 No.1376130 >>1372632 hilti hammer drill, a charm cheapass aldi cordless drill, ok bosch angle grinder, never again bosch jigsaw,ok makita 1000nm impact, wow

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:09:47 2018 No.1376132 >>1376130 all bought second hand cheapass^^

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Fri Apr 27 16:15:33 2018 No.1376265

>>1372961
This is cool but Husky and Kobalt have to be contracted out to somebody else, right?

>research
Looks like up until 2003, Kobalt was made by the same company as Snap-On. 2003-2011 they were made by the company who owns Matco. And currently Kobalt hand tools are made by JS tools who makes Dickies and random stuff like DeWalt, screwdrivers by Great Neck, power tools by the people who make Skil.

Husky is made by Stanley mostly and some stuff by Western Forge (who made Craftsman screwdrivers forever until last year I guess) which is now owned by Ideal.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Fri Apr 27 16:25:15 2018 No.1376268
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>>1376265
And some interesting theories about this. Lots of people think it’s possible that HF contracts it to Stanley (who makes DeWalt) or possibly made in the same factoties in Asia where the DeWalts were made since they brought production of many DeWalts back to the US.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:22:52 2018 No.1376343 >>1375928 corded wins against cordless when you take the battery out fuck me, why do i come here anymore

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:14:54 2018 No.1376376

>>1376265
Lowe's guy here, the 24v brushless stuff is made by Chervon, so it's totally fine stuff. Top-tier? Nah, but it's good stuff. I'd stack Kobalt 24v up against mid-range DeWalt 20v. I enjoy mine. Kobalt warranty is 5-year tool/3-year battery, versus DeWalt's 3-year warranty that doesn't specify batteries(they cover parts that wear out for 1 year, but only cover defects past that, I'm not sure where batteries end up in that).

As for hand tools, it varies item to item, you really can't make a blanket statement without checking the vendor for every individual lineup. Most of it's straight from China or Taiwan though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:18:10 2018 No.1376380 >>1376376 I bought a 10" sliding Kobalt miter saw Its not as nice as the dewalt ones ive used, but its pretty decent

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:42:38 2018 No.1376396 i have 2 bosch (screwdriver and a drill) and one makita (marble saw). No worries.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:01:46 2018 No.1376406 >>1376343 If you unplug the corded and take the battery out of the cordless then they both make shitty hammers...

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 00:32:56 2018 No.1376489
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>>1376406
This is true...

>tfw you want to upgrade the whole thing to newer 20V but don’t want to spend $1000 and have a bunch of 18V paperweights

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 01:22:03 2018 No.1376504
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>>1376489
do the tools still work? you can always toss the old batteries and buy a few of the adaptor sets to use 20v batteries on 18v tools. plus when something craps out you can go straight to buying new 20v tools instead of having to worry about changing battery platforms.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 01:34:48 2018 No.1376507

>>1376504
Oh shit, I didn’t know this existed. That’s a good idea.

The batteries are getting old and I was hesitant to spend a bunch of $$ on new 18V batteries since as soon as a tool breaks, it will be replaced by a new 20V one.

Good lookin. I’m going to keep that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 03:52:34 2018 No.1376529 >all these fags arguing over hammer drills a rotary hammer is the correct tool for that job.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 04:08:09 2018 No.1376534
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>>1376529
Hmm, so that’s what this is for. Good to know because I had to fuck around with a hammer drill last year before Irma when I needed to throw up a makeshift hurricane shutter on the one window that didn’t have tracks.

Anonymous Sat Apr 28 04:41:20 2018 No.1376542

>>1376489
>>1376504
>dewalt 18 V Battery
>dewalt 18V Battery marked as 20 V (PEAK) Battery
>they are technically the same but physically incompatible
wow, that's some Jewish shit here
You realize the battery are composed of the same cells, maybe the 20v line is some better quality and you still suck their cock
At least Bosch's 3 types of 18V battery are all interchangeable

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 05:01:47 2018 No.1376545
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>>1376534
This rotary hammer, I haven’t really used it since it got passed down from my dad. Plugged a battery in and it sparks a ton in the motor. Pic related is the motor, the sparks were near the rear of the motor while it was running, so like upper left in the pic.

I know we have lots of electronics ppl here. Tried to clean it out blowing some air in there, but the motor itself is clamped closed. Is there something in there bent? Looks like I could bend these metal tabs up and take the motor apart if I wanted.

I feel like it’s going to burn up if I keep using it. Googled the motor itself online and it’s dico’d most places or costs more than I want to spend on the thing.

>>1376542
Those old 18V are the NiCd, the new ones are LiIon or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 06:39:21 2018 No.1376568 >>1376545 It doesn't matter if they're lithium or nicad as far as compatibility goes, tools should be able to run on either. Some tool manufacturers didn't change their design when they switched to lithium and they're still compatible, ie. Ryobi

>>	Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 06:58:14 2018 No.1376573 >>1376568 Yes but how do you make them replace all their 18V tools if the newest and bestest ones use the same battery? It’s marketing. At least they make the adapter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 07:50:00 2018 No.1376583 >>1376573 a nicad tool with a still good battery wont benefit that much from a li Ion battery, beside battery life. the li ion tools have beefier motors as the battery is capable of running them

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 08:00:43 2018 No.1376585 >>1376583 That's still not much of a reason to make your old line incompatible. New tools on old nicads would kill them faster with the larger power draw, but it's not like they company is concerned about the old nicads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 11:18:50 2018 No.1376647 >>1372659 My man They're also always on clearance at my Lowe's

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 11:21:44 2018 No.1376648 File: 216 KB, 442x600, 2860-22_1_600px.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mid Torque Brushless Impact

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 11:28:47 2018 No.1376650 >>1372648 They have impact drivers in aldi atm, was thinking about trying it out. What have you bought from there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 12:25:24 2018 No.1376673 you guys even use your tools? why the fuck are they so clean? Go out and build something. Most tools are made by the same few manufacturer.

>>	Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat Apr 28 12:39:00 2018 No.1376678 File: 1.43 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1376673 >the tools in all these stock photos are too clean!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 15:01:43 2018 No.1376752 >>1376534 That’s clearly a rotary tiger saw

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 16:43:01 2018 No.1376807 >>1376673 >why the fuck are they so clean? Because unless you are a mechanic or throw it in the dirt, shit doesnt get covered in grease even under hard use.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 22:53:27 2018 No.1376958 >>1376673 Not everybody is a lazy nasty faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 23:43:39 2018 No.1376977 >>1372632 I have an Aldi brand 20v cordless drill that I use for pretty much everything, it has been very good to me for the price, much better than the noname Nicad brushed drill that it replaced.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 00:21:53 2018 No.1376989

Are 12V tools just a meme? Used some 12V Bosch stuff today, and while it was nice and compact it sucked ass relative to my milwaukee 18V impact I was using simultaneously.

The best use i got out of it was installing a transducer on a boat transom. Earlier in the morning when rebuilding a staircase the 12V stuff was shit

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 01:49:22 2018 No.1377014

>>1376989
12v tools have their place in a tool kit but most of them will never keep up with a heavy duty 18v tool. they are generally aimed at people in specialist trades where having a compact but reliable tool for quick jobs is more important than raw power all day.

Bosch's 12v tools are well made but arnt as powerful as Milwaukee's M12 line, Bosch seems to be aiming their tools at people doing precision woodworking like building cabinets where you need stuff like compact routers and weird right angle attachments. Milwaukee wants the M12 line to be the go to tools for people like electricians and plumbers that need a lighter duty tool they can carry in a tool bag for when the need arises.

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>>1372632
>What are you using?
The cheapest Ryobi & Harbor Freight shit I can find.
Anything else and you're some kind of pussy that's driving up the cost of tools because you're a hack that can't cope with a challenge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 06:08:48 2018 No.1377100 >>1377014 >Bosch's 12v tools are well made but arnt as powerful as Milwaukee's M12 line pls gib a source on this one

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 06:11:35 2018 No.1377101 >>1376673 >Most tools are made by the same few manufacturer. go die in a fire

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sun Apr 29 06:26:15 2018 No.1377107

>>1377101
Kek he’s wrong, but there is some truth to it. Like when i was doing research on anon’s chart earlier in the thread.

If you bought a US made screwdriver in the past few decades, it’s probably made by one of only a couple manufacturers, no matter what brand it is.

That’s capitalism in 2017. All of the food and drinks in your kitchen is all from 4 or 5 companies. Every product in your bathroom is from 2 or 3. Unilever4Life.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 12:25:35 2018 No.1377204

>>1377100
>Bosch PS42 12V Max Brushless Impact Driver
975 In.-Lbs., 3100 IPM

>Milwaukee M12 Fuel 2553-20 impact driver
1300 in.-lbs., 4000 IPM

>Bosch PS32 12V 3/8 in. Brushless Drill/Driver
>265 in.-lbs., 1300 RPM

>Mikwaukee M12 Fuel 2504-20 1/2 in. hammer drill driver
350 in.-lbs., 1700 RPM

Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools objectively beat all other 12V tool platforms in terms of power but i dont doubt Bosch tools are well made. Tool Boss on youtube did a torture test of the new Fuel tools and found that the smaller parts used to make the tools more compact were also more fragile and the larger ventilation holes to keep things cool also let more water and gunk get into the inner-components.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 12:36:44 2018 No.1377207

>>1377204
wait, you believe the specs they give on the website?
you know marketing numbers cant be trusted, especially given form USA company
>20V battery

let me show you this
>>https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/2704-20
> Peak Torque 1,200 in-lbs
>>https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/18v-lithium-ion-cordless-hammer-drills-hdh181x-132567-p/
>Torque (in. lbs.) 752
the 60% difference in rated torque, for two tools that are almost identical in shape and size while running the same power, is enough to doubt these numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 12:50:11 2018 No.1377215 >>1372653 my boiii, I got a shitload of makita, but i tend to stick to the professional brands. Also got a Festool plungesaw

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 12:54:56 2018 No.1377219 >>1372958 bruh, i am a eurocuck and impact + drill driver is best thing ever. One to pre drill and other to drive the screw. Fuck changing bits

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 13:01:22 2018 No.1377224

>>1377207
Manufacturer's specs are a good place to start from but they arnt the end all be all. the Milwaukee does have a brushless motor which gives it a kick in torque and run time and Redlink chip in M18 Fuel tools does a better job of regulating power output than a standard control board.

if you really want to get exact performance assessments you will need to do proper side by side comparisons of drilling time and endurance tests. plenty of people have done videos comparing that Milwaukee to Dewalt's Premium Brushless Hammer Drill but im not sure about that particular Bosch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqzkeQbXr7g

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:23:28 2018 No.1377327

>>1377224
>Milwaukee does have a brushless motor which gives it a kick in torque and run time
the exact same is true for the other.
all im saying is, if the numbers for two similar sized tools go off by 60%, something is fishy.
As they cant pull the power out of their ass, its likely the numbers are bullshit

just going by size alone, both run on 18V
that means for the milwaukee to have 60% more torque, it would have to be designed to draw a significant higher amount of current (were talking way more than 50% more).
As you cant cheat physics, this would require thicker motor winding's that result in a slower motor and a bigger gearbox.

look, i dont need a shill review to proof my point

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:33:06 2018 No.1377334

>>1377327
The Makita 18V drill has 300% the torque rating of the Lidl 18V Li-ion drill. They're about the same size, both run on the same voltage, both are brushed. That means that the Makita would have to be designed to draw a significantly higher amount of current, have thicker motor windings and a bigger gearbox.
But you can't cheat physics, no way two similar looking drills can have so much difference in torque! Makita BTFO!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:42:59 2018 No.1377339 >>1377327 >the exact same is true for the other. nope, the HDH181X is a brushed hammer drill, you'll rarely see a brushed model putting out more than 800in.lbs while all the best brushless models are 1200-1300in.lbs.

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:52:53 2018 No.1377342

>>1377327
Gearing could be a factor, but likely not in this case as it would seem the Bosch is actually geared lower (lower RPM but motor speed is likely similar).

>>1377334
The difference is the Lidl batteries and control circuitry and probably junk so it wouldn't be surprising if they severely limit the current to stop the thing catching on fire.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 16:56:56 2018 No.1377347 >>1377219 >pre drilling anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 17:07:09 2018 No.1377350 >>1372880 Info about performance pls. How long do Batteries last and how is it doing on more heavy duty routing? Thinking about getting this one or the cord version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 17:52:31 2018 No.1377366 >>1372686 More like Botch

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 18:10:07 2018 No.1377376

>>1376545
Sparks/arcing is common on brushed motors.

If it's a lot, like more so than a normal tool, you could either:
a.) replace the whole damn motor (recommended)
b.) replace the brushes (might not do anything, might be very hard to do since the motor is enclosed like you say)

Also if you open the motor up who's to say you don't fuck up in reassembly and make it worse?

You might be able to find a suitable alternative if you know the performance characteristics and sizing on that bitch. Might be able to hack in a similarly sized/speed motor (might - also might not choose the right one and you end up burning up the thing)

Anonymous Sun Apr 29 20:16:18 2018 No.1377413

>>1377014
I don't doubt it was well made. The problem, in my opinion, was getting leverage to send screws into the 2x12 treads in the staircase. I could send T20 torx screws with one hand with my m18, but the 12V stuff I had to use my left hand to press down in order to get proper downward force.

The 18V battery at the bottom of my m18 stuff (and all other 18V brands) seemed to help with balancing the force I was pushing down with. Good ups on the answer though, I really enjoy diy board discussions

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 22:30:31 2018 No.1377465 >>1374163 Ego makes some legit good shit for the price

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 29 22:32:53 2018 No.1377466 >>1372632 I use a full milwaukee line because I'm a cuck who likes having better toys than my coworkers

Anonymous Mon Apr 30 02:38:57 2018 No.1377530

>>1377465
Egos seem to get good reviews all around, from AvE's breakdown video the biggest drawback i saw was that the plastic bodies are made of standard ABS plastic rather than glass fiber reinforced plastics so they will break more easily from heavy shocks like dropping them. motors and batteries seem fine though, even if they are kind of large.

Anonymous Tue May 1 21:35:40 2018 No.1378621
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I need a battery drill and don't know what brand or what is good. I had a 9.6v DeWalt and a 12V DeWalt last me 20 years. They now don't hold a charge. What to get next? I only use the drill a few times per year.

Anonymous Tue May 1 22:15:15 2018 No.1378633

>>1373522
You always see elechickens use Milwaukee because #1 they fucking work and #2 they last forever. The fat portaband is a godsend and the 12V impact is controllable enough to not blow 8-32 threads out of terminal blocks. Plus, having matching color shit is Gucci AF.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:18:35 2018 No.1378635 >>1374252 Looks absolutely identical to the Milwaukee. Buy it and tell us how long the batteries last.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:23:01 2018 No.1378639 >>1377413 I love having a 12V impact for unbolting panel covers, zipping our machine screws, and running long threads in that I’m going to hit with a torque wrench.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:18:36 2018 No.1378668 >>1373119 >>1373134 >not getting makita japanese machineed

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 01:35:49 2018 No.1378704 File: 94 KB, 480x604, téléchargement.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This. I hate cordless, i prefer to get angry over a cord than having to change batteries every hour. >Hammer drill is heavy Bitch so is your mom and you still love her.

Anonymous Wed May 2 12:07:28 2018 No.1378858

>>1378621
if you want to stick with Dewalt get this one, its their newest diy-tier model with a brushless motor and a couple batteries to keep you going for a while.

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCD777C2-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Compact/dp/B01J7UPHIS/

if you want something a little smaller and compact Milwaukee M12s are another good option, just as powerful and well made as the larger 18/20 tools and this one comes with a nice case. just remember that buying a drill is also the first step to buying into a tool platform, any other cordless tools you buy in the future will probobly be from that line as well.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-With-Free-PACKOUT-Case-2404-21P/301999123

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 12:51:39 2018 No.1378874 >>1378704 >Hammer drill is heavy I don't think anyone was going to bring this up

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 13:17:20 2018 No.1378883 This kit looks good, should I buy it? https://www.amazon.ca/DEWALT-DCD791D2-Li-Ion-Brushless-Compact/dp/B0183RLVSQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1525281254&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=dewalt+xr+compact&dpPl=1&dpID=510Xj3o%2Bz9L&ref=plSrch

Anonymous Wed May 2 13:54:48 2018 No.1378888

>>1378883
how much do you plan on using it? the DCD791 has all the same features as the DCD777 from >>1378858, its just slightly more powerful and better built with better batteries for $80 more.

if you plan on using it a lot and built a tool system around it, sure. if you're just going to use it a few times a year like >>1378621 theres no reason to pay more for a difference you wont be able to observe.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 14:06:20 2018 No.1378890 >>1372958 >>1377219 Beat me to it. I used to install a lot of cabinetry. >1/8in bit with countersink attachment on drill >ph2 on the impact It's nice not having to counter the torque of driving screws with a drill when you're doing it all day.

Anonymous Wed May 2 14:08:03 2018 No.1378893

>>1378888
The one you linked has a terrible chuck, I've used that model a lot (more than one drill) and the chuck was shit. I'll never buy any drill without at least the XR's metal chuck. I plan on probably getting some aftermarket batteries eventually but I'm generally close to a charger so it's not a huge deal.

Anonymous Wed May 2 14:38:08 2018 No.1378904
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>>1378704

Hammer drills are pleb-tier. Keep a regular drill around for regular use, have a rotary hammer available for drilling harder stuff.

Literally the only things I've found that hammer drills work well on are brick and cinder blocks. The problem is, both of those can be drilled just fine WITHOUT the hammer action.

Anonymous Wed May 2 17:43:08 2018 No.1379019
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Opinions on the 18V jobmax? I've had situations where an oscillating saw, reciprocating saw, or right angle drill would have been convenient but I can't justify buying those tools individually for such rare use. I'm kinda skeptical of multi-tools though.

Anonymous Wed May 2 17:58:00 2018 No.1379036

>>1379019
its not a bad tool, just an odd approach that will never really catch on with most people. they seem like something that would be really helpful for a specialty contractor who does flooring or HVAC work, they are nice and compact and you can fit a whole line of tools in your work bag instead of needing a whole truck. Its meant to be Ridgid's equal to the M12 line but the powerheads are a little overpriced IMO. each attachment costs more than the full sized Ryobi equivalent and it can get a little heavy for a tool designed for one-handed use.

also i heard a couple months ago that there is a new Jobmax was going to be announced at some point so maybe you will want to wait a bit.

Anonymous Wed May 2 20:53:40 2018 No.1379153

>>1372953
Stanley used to have a power tool division, which was made up of one or more power tool companies Stanley acquired over the years. The power tool division made top of the line industrial tools, including high end specialized stuff like high-frequency motors. Bosch in the late 70s or early 80s purchased Stanleys power tool division, and rebranded the stuff they kept in production as Bosch or maybe Skil/Skilsaw which was another US manufacturer Bosch also purchased.
This left Stanley out of the power tool market for a few decades, at least in North America.

Around the same time Bosch was buying Stanleys power tool division, Black & Decker purchased Dewalt, which up until that time mainly or only manufactured heavy stationary tools, like the radial arm saws, that Dewalt was known for. Black & Decker also around this time purchased Elu, or at least the portable power tool division of Elu. Elu was a German company that had invented the plunge router, and which made a line of portable power tools and accessories, mostly for woodworking, which were very well regarded. B&D did this because they had sold homeowner grade tools under the B&D name, as well as Industrial power tools, and professionals had started thinking all B&D tools were the crappy homeowner quality, despite B&D also making well regarded Industrial quality tools. B&D started selling most of the higher quality tools under the Dewalt, Black and Decker Industrial, and Elu, brand names, and apparently, the Dewalt yellow and black trademarked color scheme and brand worked best for the higher end tools. The Black & Decker brand was kept for the homeowner quality tools. Black and Decker later purchased Porter Cable, and rebranded a bunch of the better Black & Decker tools under the Porter Cable brand name as a mid level brand for Lowes, B&D also discontinued a bunch of the industrial and professional level Porter Cable tool models, although they kept some popular items, like the routers in production.

Anonymous Wed May 2 21:04:03 2018 No.1379162

>>1374063
That hammer drill is almost certainly a rebranded, German made, AEG hammer drill. The same drills were sold in the USA under both the Milwaukee and AEG brands, and pissibly Atlas Copco as well, since at the time, Atlas Copco owned AEG and Milwaukee. The drills are excellant though.

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>>1373064
Same, for the money and compatibility across tools with batteries Ridgid kills. Has anyone used the new Ridgid framing nailer? So tempted to buy it for 200. I do love the Bosch bulldog for heavy stuff though

Anonymous Wed May 2 21:09:54 2018 No.1379168

>>1376545
Most of that type of motor used in cordless tools used to be made in China by Acme, at least I read that somewhere. Those cordless motors aren’t meant to be serviceable. If the brushes wear out, or the motor starts sparking, you usually have to replace the motor. It varies but the motors might be $40 or less for Dewalt.

Anonymous Wed May 2 21:29:21 2018 No.1379180

>>1379153
So, Black & Decker owns the B&D, Dewalt, Elu, Porter Cable, brand names, and some other as well. Black & Decker also got into a trademark lawsuit, which they won, over the yellow and black color scheme of their power tools, so no one in the USA can legally sell power tools using that same color scheme other than Dewalt. Stanley on the other hand was using a yellow and black color scheme for their hand tools. Black & Decker and Stanley Tools decided to merge the two companies. So the two companies are now Stanley Black & Decker.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 22:25:42 2018 No.1379201 >>1372712 yeah ridgid is the gold standard for power tools

Termi Wed May 2 23:00:53 2018 No.1379208
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I probably own about $2000 worth of milwaukee drills, impacts, saws, grease guns, weed eater, hedge trimmer,etc. and I have yet to be disappointed with any of their products. No other brand really seems to have the variety of tools they offer.

Anonymous Wed May 2 23:23:55 2018 No.1379222
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Got the coordless drill with a spare battery and 30 min charger for christmas. Old roommate had the older blue ones and gave them to me for free. Bought the hedge trimmer used dirt cheap with fast charger.

Alright for my diy needs but the hedge trimmer is pretty shitty

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:33:20 2018 No.1379227 >>1373536 shut the fuck up liar, You can go into the nippon site, it literally not that much of a difference just more lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:33:30 2018 No.1379228 File: 718 KB, 1139x723, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Only the best.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:35:11 2018 No.1379230 >>1374163 >not making your own band saw >not just buying a used craftsman scroll saw,

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 23:39:04 2018 No.1379231 >>1379228 Why no 1/2" drive? I wouldn't be surprised if the torque you can get out of that thing would shear a hex drive. Or is that not actually an impact driver? Can't quite read the model number.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 01:06:52 2018 No.1379264 >>1374820 >>1374352 >>1374350 I would say your looking at Milwaukee for cheap brush-less metal chuck drill.

>>	C⌬©⍟ℕυͳ !!ejZnhfeYlll Thu May 3 01:21:31 2018 No.1379268 Work gives Dewalt. I have all Milwaukee

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Thu May 3 02:35:00 2018 No.1379288

>>1379168
If I could find it for $40 or less, I would just get the motor and be done. The couple websites that carried it were out of stock.

>>1379208
I’m gonna come to the other side of the state and rob you. But I’m gonna leave you about $150 worth of Harbor Freight tools so you can work at least because I’m a nice guy.

I wish I could justify spending that kind of money on the stuff. Maybe if I switch over to the fleet department one day.

Anonymous Thu May 3 02:40:32 2018 No.1379289
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2nd gen 12V Fuel + 6AH battery for $200 good? Also planning on the Fuel hackzall later on. Only a homeowner so no need for 18v and a billion tools. I would prefer Ridgid for the LSA but their 12v tools suck.

Anonymous Thu May 3 06:45:00 2018 No.1379350
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>>1378858
>if you want something a little smaller and compact Milwaukee M12s are another good option, just as powerful and well made as the larger 18/20 tools and this one comes with a nice case. just remember that buying a drill is also the first step to buying into a tool platform, any other cordless tools you buy in the future will probobly be from that line as well.

I don't think I'll need more than a drill. I have all of my dad's tools since he died, and I rarely use any power tool than the drill, so using a plug-in one is fine. That being said, I don't know whether ot not a $99 Milwaukee, $99 DeWalt, or $99 Ryobi are any different. I would assume at this point that it's all made by the same Chinese children.

Termi Thu May 3 10:58:19 2018 No.1379460

>>1379288
Its pretty easy to spend money on tools when you consider it an investment in abilities and efficiency. You dont have to go crazy with it though. I've spent under $10k in tools and toolboxes and have 99% of what I need. The higher end hf cordless tools cost just as much as dewalt and milwaukee but don't have a warranty.

Google "milwaukee promos" and search through home depot to get good deals.

Anonymous Thu May 3 11:14:12 2018 No.1379472

>>1379289
yeah its a hell of a deal for some really nice and compact tools. some people are pissed because they paid the full $229 price for just the two drills when they were released a couple months ago, even to the point of people taking them back to home depot just to return them then buy the set again for $30 less plus get a $90 battery for free.

Anonymous Thu May 3 11:28:35 2018 No.1379483

Milwaukee New Product Symposium is going right now in Milwaukee, WI.

so far new products are:
>Gen 3 M18 Fuel Hammer Drill, 60% more powerful than old model and 3/4" shorter
>Gen 3 M18 Fuel Impact Driver, really short like the new Makitas but has 2000in/lb
>M18 Fuel Table Saw
>M18 Fuel Chainsaw in July
>new 6.0ah battery packs that are smaller than the old XC batteries
>new 12.0ah battery
>M18 Fuel 7" and 9" large angle grinder
>Gen 2 M18 Fuel Super Sawzall
>1" M18 High Torque impact wrench, more power than other high torque model with a side handle and handguard for heavy duty work

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 11:35:51 2018 No.1379489 >>1379483 oh and Gen 2 M18 Fuel 7-1/4" Circular Saw.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 11:38:58 2018 No.1379491 File: 767 KB, 1276x639, Milwaukee M18 NPS18 New Tools YouTube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379483 oh and Gen 2 M18 Fuel 7-1/4" Circular Saw. not sure about other tool lines, maybe they will be discussing M12 tomorrow?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 11:42:12 2018 No.1379493 File: 403 KB, 2048x1536, 31890933_10156379595949722_351307146329063424_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] impact drivers are getting even smaller.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 11:43:15 2018 No.1379495 File: 594 KB, 2048x1536, 31886461_10156379595429722_5014236599953653760_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] batteries are getting bigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 11:44:19 2018 No.1379497 File: 507 KB, 2048x1536, 31818943_10156379597609722_5686752410341474304_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >using a gas chainsaw

Anonymous Thu May 3 12:17:43 2018 No.1379511

>>1379350
size is a big factor, just compare this M12 Fuel >>1379289 to a full sized 18v Ryobi >>1379222. they are both rated for the same amount of power and both use a full sized 1/2" chuck to run the same bits, but the 12v is much smaller and lighter while can still do the same amount of work with the right batteries.

if you need a drill for the sake of drilling the size is a huge convenience, nobody needs a huge a brick like >>1379228
just to hang some picture frames.

Anonymous Thu May 3 12:37:18 2018 No.1379523

>>1379497
>battery yard tools
I tried a battery-powered weed whacker. It fucking sucked, totally unacceptable. I returned it and got a gas one.
And the thing is, battery powered lawnmowers/whackers don't technically HAVE to suck 40 dicks, but the manufacturers insist that they do.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 12:43:35 2018 No.1379527 File: 124 KB, 1200x600, 28947816_10156246301069722_2348142480832669370_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379523 maybe you just used a garbage model?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 13:03:43 2018 No.1379531 File: 3.72 MB, 3088x4160, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379472 didn't need the extra battery so i returned it for $61 refund. basically got the set for $150. Here's all the red tools i currently own. big battery is charging now.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 13:05:15 2018 No.1379533 File: 618 KB, 582x653, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379493 >>1379495 they really took things to the next level. their high torque was already the most powerful cordless impact. wonder what this will be like.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 13:20:47 2018 No.1379538 >>1379511 I can't say that I am familiar with the terminology you use, but I think the $99 DeWalt on Amazon that was suggested will do the job. I hope it lasts me 20 years again like my previous DeWalts did.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 13:31:00 2018 No.1379540 File: 1008 KB, 1283x731, Milwaukee M12 Fuel Impact Wrench YouTube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379533 theres also a new M12 impact wrench in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drives that put out 250ft/lb of torque.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 13:37:06 2018 No.1379542 >>1379540 250ft/lb from M12? damn wonder what battery life will be like.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Thu May 3 13:47:06 2018 No.1379543
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>>1379460
I was real tempted to spend some money around Xmas because Home Depot had good deals on all the brands. I wouldn’t but HF power tools.

I have a bunch of DeWalt, but it’s the old brushed 18V NiCd stuff. And I use a power tool like once every month or two. Plus cordless power tools don’t exactly age the same way an expensive ratchet does...

>>1379493
Free samples!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 14:48:08 2018 No.1379563 >all this color shilling >not just watching AVE and choosing from there

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:02:19 2018 No.1379572 Would the kit batteries in a dewalt 771 fit in a 791? Fucking battery compatibility shit is getting to me, they're expensive as hell.

Anonymous Thu May 3 15:10:13 2018 No.1379576

>>1379563
>ave breakdown videos
>actually being useful in terms of buying a tool
>actually being useful for fucking anything

We get it, gears are cheap now, too much electronics are bad now, switches are cheap now, made in China now, oh look at this great plastic molding, break it putting it back together, rinse and repeat.

Anonymous Thu May 3 15:10:44 2018 No.1379577

>>1379572
all dewalt 20v batteries are the same, some are bigger than others and have silly labels like XR and high demand but they will all work on your tools. really high demand tools like circular saws and rotary hammers have a bit of power reduction on smaller tools but that just has to do with the amp output.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:31:47 2018 No.1379593 >>1379577 Thanks man.

Anonymous Thu May 3 15:36:57 2018 No.1379597

As far as cordless goes, I use makita and milwaukee. I have yet to experience a real problem with either, save for one defective battery. My father's old makita cordless is coming up on 15 years, and still works fine. As far as corded and bench tools, it's a real mixed bag. Delta belt sander, jet bandsaw, duracraft drill press, no name grinder and grizzly shape. The sander has had broken belts, and the drill press is probably not going to take too much more of my abuse, but I don't have any great complaints. Craftsman radial arm scares me a bit, but does its job.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:56:11 2018 No.1379600 >>1372653 Makita all on my chain, makita all on my ring, makita all on my watch.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 15:58:36 2018 No.1379601 File: 110 KB, 960x960, 31793595_10156380049319722_4895388111774679040_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new M18 backpack vacuum for extreme vacuuming activities.

Anonymous Thu May 3 16:00:09 2018 No.1379603
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new Fuel jig saws, thank god. the old M18 jigsaw was ancient and Milwaukee needs to do a better job making proper cordless woodworking tools, not just focusing everything towards "the trades".

looks like they are copying Makitas newer jigsaw too.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 16:01:15 2018 No.1379604 File: 93 KB, 960x960, 31890364_10156380083234722_7329267270062964736_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] M12 Fuel 3" cutting tool, looks like the same blades as those Dremel Sawmax things.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 16:06:21 2018 No.1379605 File: 133 KB, 960x960, 27073035_10156114099234722_4706647735192446305_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] for something completely different, a dewalt flexvolt concrete saw.

Anonymous Thu May 3 17:15:08 2018 No.1379617

>>1378893
Agreed. I bought a similar model because it was super cheap (new in box on the Craigslist). Now I feel like buying a chuck and replacing the cheap plastic one that's on there.

However I have this super nice Albrecht 3/8th chuck made in Germany like before I was born and I want to make a little dewalt thread to J33 taper adaptor so I can use the Albrecht chuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 18:27:14 2018 No.1379645 File: 204 KB, 597x598, impact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379540 looks like they are using the standard impact driver motor for the 1/4 impact while the 3/8" and 1/2" use a bigger and beefier motor assembly.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 18:40:13 2018 No.1379653 >>1379605 who cares if it's cordless when you're still tethered to a hose

>>	Chink colony Thu May 3 18:51:03 2018 No.1379658 >>1379605 That’s if the beaner running it actually gives a shit about your, or his, lungs.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 3 19:06:22 2018 No.1379666 >>1379653 there are plenty of jobs like in a basement where you have water access and want to keep the dust down but you dont want to deal with exhaust fumes.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 01:31:22 2018 No.1379827 File: 2.74 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_0689.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got all of this for $200. Recently found some more batteries at an estate sale for $2 each.

>>	CocaColaCarpetMuncher Fri May 4 04:14:14 2018 No.1379887 >>1379827 Damn that’s not bad. How old are the batteries? They should have a date stamped on the top of them.

>>	CocaColaCarpetMuncher Fri May 4 04:16:44 2018 No.1379889 PS. I literally cannot stop sucking cocks.

>>	Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Fri May 4 05:17:30 2018 No.1379914 >>1379889 To each his own

Anonymous Fri May 4 11:07:25 2018 No.1380012

>>1379827
not the lastest and greatest hottest new stuff, but as long as they work they will do the job. the batteries are the first thing that will start crapping out on those old tools, when they do just keep buying older ones or get the adapter set to upgrade to 20v lithium batteries. Dewalt still makes the 18 XRP batteries but they are stupidly overpriced for what is essentially dead technology.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 11:17:53 2018 No.1380023 >>1377350 >heavy duty routing Not sure what you mean by this but anything considerably heavy duty should be done with a 1/2" router, let alone a cordless trim router, as great as the DRT 50 is.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 11:18:55 2018 No.1380025 >>1378704 >I hate cordless, i prefer to get angry over a cord than having to change batteries every hour I get two days out of a single 5ah 18v battery on my rotary hammer, that's on site too, not DIY.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 11:19:59 2018 No.1380026 >>1379019 >OMT buy bosch or fein, everything else is never going to be anywhere near as good and the cost is near enough the same, the fein might be a little more expensive but I have the bosch 18vEC and it's spot on.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 11:21:01 2018 No.1380027 >>1379228 >Only the best When can we expect a photo of the best? Oh those hilti look cute, btw.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 4 11:34:27 2018 No.1380032 File: 157 KB, 1000x1000, 1429799068-57613700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379653

Anonymous Fri May 4 20:52:45 2018 No.1380275

who makes a good 12" miter saw these days? my 20 year old delta is about done and parts are hard or impossible to find

i went to a local tool store and they were showing me all this dewalt cordless garbage, i explained that it would be permanently bolted into my workbench and have zero need for cordless but he kept assuring me "its the best one"

id just get another delta but they arent sold locally and i dont entirely trust their stuff anymore

Anonymous Fri May 4 22:58:54 2018 No.1380328

>>1380275
Makita, their stationary tools are still built to last and their 12in dual bevel sliding miter saw is a beast.

if you want a more budget option Ridgid makes a pretty solid 12in model, it has a lifetime warranty and can make 70 degree compound cuts but uses a few cheaper materials here and there and some of them have horribly offset blades out of the box.

Anonymous Sat May 5 05:51:19 2018 No.1380410
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>>1380275
DeWalt or festool. I've tried many others and none are as good for the money as the DeWalt dws780 which I've held on to.

The newest Makita mitres have a lot of problems staying tuned into square as they've tried to do something similar to festools kapex.

The kapex is nice but far too expensive for anything other than work shop use, you wouldn't want to give it the beating a job site saw would take on.

There's also the Bosch GDL which is a gorgeous saw and the action is unreal. Had it not been for the fact I managed to get an almost new DWS780 I'd have got the Bosch GDL.

The DeWalt mitre saw stand comes in two sizes too and you can buy two bracket types so you can use any stationary tool on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 09:29:33 2018 No.1380447 File: 227 KB, 1233x650, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1379645 looks like this may be the biggest kid on the block now https://milwaukeetool.com/Products/2804-20

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 09:39:52 2018 No.1380449
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>>1380447
That’s the hammer drill, not an impact. That’s only 100 ft-lbs of torque (which is powerful for a drill, but not the same as an impact wrench).

Pic related it what you want for ripping off tight nuts and bolts if you need pure torque. And there’s a 3/4” drive that is even more powerful, but that’s more like HD diesel mechanic stuff if you need that NUT BUSTING POWER to change wheels on a semi truck.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 09:42:34 2018 No.1380451 >>1380449 That's nice, but you're a tripfag, so you can suck a bag of dicks.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 09:45:04 2018 No.1380452
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>>1380451
The tolerant Democrat response. But the post about the hammer drill was still incorrect and misinformed if were looking at NUT-BUSTING TORQUE (tm)

Pic related is the 3/4” impact description,

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 09:51:55 2018 No.1380454
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>>1380452
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Innovations/M18-Fuel/2864-20

This is crazy. So you can track the tool? Anybody ever used this system? Looks like you get an app on the phone and can program different torque settings too.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 09:53:26 2018 No.1380455 >>1380447 >in-lbs lol. My drill has 5500Nmm of torque >RPMs >Rotations Per Minutes

>>	Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 10:07:23 2018 No.1380458 >>1380455 They had this same argument on the LeBatard show recently, but about RBIs in baseball. Runs batted ins? If Tim Kurkjian isn’t sure about it, the world will never know the correct answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 12:38:55 2018 No.1380505 >>1380454 some of my milwaukees have this but ive never used it, even the larger more expensive batteries can be tracked

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 12:46:02 2018 No.1380507 Hilti fuck bechtel they're mine now

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 13:05:37 2018 No.1380509

>>1380505
Honestly that’s a fuckin good idea if you own a business and you provide the tools. Even if you just work with a bunch of minorities it’s a gread idea.

I wonder what the app consists of. That’s why I was asking if anybody used it. Would be cool to program them like shopping carts where they lock up as soon as they leave a certain perimeter. Keeps $300+ tools from walking off the job site.

Anonymous Sat May 5 13:46:33 2018 No.1380531
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>>1379527
>oh shit I was just looking for a Makita-made 18V garden multitool
>mfw those prices
>base unit is ~$300
>any attachment is at least $150
>full set costs well over $1000
>meanwhile Ryobi has the multitool with two attachments for like $200
>meanwhile a beaner will cut your shit hedge with a $10 hand tool for $5
Why the fuck would anyone buy that overpriced piece of shit? Is Makita going for the Apple customer base again?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 14:29:08 2018 No.1380549 >>1380531 dewalt and milwaukee are aimed at contractors makita is aimed at old people ryobi is aimed at landlords and other people who dont care festool and hilti are aimed at the apple store audience

Anonymous Sat May 5 14:59:12 2018 No.1380562

>>1380531
a lot of commercial landscapers and contractors have to do work in areas with strict noise ordinances like rich residential areas and office parks. they need powerful, well-made cordless tools that will perform as well as gas but be much quieter. thats why Makita and Milwaukee are putting out more electric landscaping equipment and dewalt has a shitload of options in their 20v, 40v commercial and 60v flexvolt lines.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 18:20:21 2018 No.1380676 >>1380549 Disregard this post. It's all bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 18:44:10 2018 No.1380688 >>1380676 whats bullshit about it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 19:42:11 2018 No.1380704 >>1380549 Makitas are for pros. Hiltis are very expensive and the difference between Makitas and Hiltis boils down to nuances in user preferences.

>>	Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 5 19:54:31 2018 No.1380708 >>1380562 >there are some female landscapers ftfy Nothing rustles my jimmies more than an electric lawnmower

Anonymous Sat May 5 23:02:00 2018 No.1380817 [DELETED]

>>1380708
the electric tools arnt even much heavier with their huge 40-80v battery packs, it really comes down to sound and ease of use over a gas tool.

honestly i can see the draw of having something like this >>1379497 over a big 2-stroke Stihl, sometimes you just need to make a few cuts or limb up a tree after its down and a big brushless motor is more than enough for the job. i wouldnt use it all day or in commercial forestry but the convenience of use makes up for the power or run time of a gas tool.

Anonymous Sat May 5 23:04:03 2018 No.1380820

>>1380708
the electric tools arnt even much lighter with those huge 40-80v battery packs, it really comes down to sound and ease of use over a gas tool.

honestly i can see the draw of having something like this >>1379497 over a big 2-stroke Stihl, sometimes you just need to make a few cuts or limb up a tree after its down and a big brushless motor is more than enough for the job. i wouldnt use it all day or in commercial forestry but the convenience of use makes up for the power or run time of a gas tool.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 5 23:54:31 2018 No.1380841 File: 32 KB, 425x312, 1462033818981.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1380820

Anonymous Sun May 6 10:11:00 2018 No.1381015

>>1380688
Makita are one of the best brands going. Milwaukee are good but their cordless tools have no end of common faults.
DeWalt are as good as Makita but again faults and don't have near the same selection of tools.

I use all 3 brands and have done for 12 years first hand on-site.

Other than festool and hilti being aimed at people with more money than sense everything else was bait.

I've had hilti drills and they're pants. I've used festool and other than their systainers never been stupid enough to buy it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 10:14:26 2018 No.1381017 >>1381015 any experience with (blue) bosch?

Anonymous Sun May 6 18:09:53 2018 No.1381240

>>1381017
Some. Their corded tools are good. The cordless tools I've never been a fan of. I have their brushless GOP multitool and a GWS 125mm grinder which I like. Had a. Battery fail to overloading.

Their saws are brilliant. Also had a Bosch GTS 10xc table saw which I loved and regret selling.

Have a couple of corded rotaries which are good. Seem to be lasting a long time.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 6 19:09:25 2018 No.1381271 >>1381015 >says a post is bullshit >proceeds to post his own bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 04:32:47 2018 No.1381498 >>1372749 a corded drill is fine if you're always drilling in the same room. lugging around a corded drill everywhere and using an extension cord is a pain in the ass if you actually need it for work

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 07:59:13 2018 No.1381545 >>1381271 >Backs none of his statements up with anything credible You should quit dood

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 08:03:17 2018 No.1381548 >>1372749 DIY grade corded drills will only ever be DIY grade corded drills When your time is worth more than your tools you're not a DIYer.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 08:44:27 2018 No.1381562 >>1372648 just an FIY - they also have online stores that you can order any of the merchandise...

Anonymous Mon May 7 09:33:33 2018 No.1381600

>>1376545
>>1379168
Motor in pic seems to have replaceable brushes, looks a lot like older Dewalts used to...

However do note, that it's not only the brushes that wear out/get destroyed by abuse, the comutator itself can be worn/damaged and it's not sensible to repair that, you replace the whole motor.

DO NOT BEND ANYTHING.
Instead, gently pull on the plastic holding them, perpedicularly away from the axis of shaft.
If they're supposed to be removable, they'll slide out.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 14:34:54 2018 No.1381717 >>1381600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGTgMWe0bCI copper wire hammer wood and glue and it works for another 30 years in Russia.

Anonymous Mon May 7 15:18:35 2018 No.1381733
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>>1381015
systainer is not festool, its TANOS
there are actually systainers that can fit Makita or Milwauke (BTI branded) tools for cheaper than the official box's
some company is even selling a compressor systainer
like wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 16:00:27 2018 No.1381741 File: 177 KB, 1000x658, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1381733 >storage cases >anything but Milwaukee Packout throw that thing in the trash, doesnt even look like you can stand on those boxes without them breaking.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 7 16:06:35 2018 No.1381745 >>1381741 you fuckhead, the whole point is to have a cross manufacturer compatible box also, there are things that miwaukee doesn't sell in an overpriced box

Anonymous Mon May 7 17:59:10 2018 No.1381799

>>1381733
Yes but festool have adapted the Tanos TLoc system to meet their own demands and it works better than most of the off the shelf boxes Makita/metabo etc, use.

All in I have about 30 Tanos boxes including makpacs and festool sys/sort and the ones with the Festool logo on I prefer over the others. The tlock sortainers are brilliant, they're also cheaper if you buy them with festool branding rather than a plain Tanos box.

There's a few different companies making tanos-style compressors now but they're very expensive for what they are.

>>1381741
>Yeah but my box says Milwaukee

Packout is over priced, bulky, awkward and guess what, just Milwaukee.

Those tote bags are a joke given the price. Just buy a veto pro-pac and stop larping

Anonymous Tue May 8 01:45:35 2018 No.1382041

>>1379887
the batteries were all reconditioned and had 3rd party stickers on them, I don't remember seeing any dates and I have the tools off at a different house today. They all seem to hold charge pretty well.

>>1380012
I found rebuild kits for the battery packs on ebay and you can buy the cells by themselves. I figure if I need to I will try to redo them or go with an adapter.

Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw Tue May 8 03:01:52 2018 No.1382061

>>1382041
Link for rebuild kit? What does that cost? I like the adapter anon posted earlier so you can use the new 20V because no way in hell I would pay $99 at Lowe’s for a new 18V battery. Plus then you have the extra 20V battery if you want to get a newer impact or saw.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 8 04:17:54 2018 No.1382084 >>1382061 Google it you faggot.

>>	Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw Tue May 8 04:19:44 2018 No.1382085 >>1382084 Google it for me. You obviously don’t have anything better to do since there’s no new hentai trap porn on /b/. I don’t feel like opening a new tab.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 8 16:43:10 2018 No.1382321 Speaking of batteries, what off-brand batteries are good? Good as in "won't burn house down" and "work somewhat close to Dewalt brand Genuine™ brand 20v WRTXZ hyper turbo lithihoom lion king ChargeMaster energy packs"

Anonymous Wed May 9 10:13:26 2018 No.1382732

>>1382321
I make my own. Still using chink cells, but I can at least test them for capacity. As far as I can tell, the custom 10-cell pack works about the same as the Makita 10-cell pack. The 15-cell pack seems to stop charging earlier than it should, might be something to do with the battery's knockoff control circuitry. Seems to last about the same as the other two packs (should have 1.5 higher capacity).

Anonymous Wed May 9 11:47:35 2018 No.1382782

>>1374259
For me it's the 20V machines which lack application. I don't drill steel, I don't generally go much above 10mm holes in wood and my cheap SDS drill takes care of brick/stone.

>>1374252
I'd spend a little extra money on a Ridgid with 2 batteries from homedepot. More torque is nice (although 25nm is enough most of the time) but the second battery and proper fast charger make it a much better deal than the cheapest shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 9 12:16:04 2018 No.1382797 >>1377022 t. Handyman

>>	Anonymous Wed May 9 12:20:04 2018 No.1382803 >>1382782 i already have a bunch of M12 Fuel tools, im just curious to see how the bottom of the barrel products compare for 1/4 the price.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Wed May 9 12:39:42 2018 No.1382820

>>1382803
If you’re just trying to drill some holes for drywall anchors to hang a painting in your house once every couple months, the $39 Black & Decker drill from Walmart will do fine. Worked well enough for me for years until coming to FL where exterior walls are concrete and you need a hammer drill to get anything done. And even then it’s not like I need the giant contractor batteries since I use a power tool for 15min on the weekend and put it back in the drawer. You’re paying for the warranty too and as a weekend warrior I will maybe use my sawzall a dozen times over a 3yr warranty period. That’s a lot different than a contractor who uses it 3 times a week.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 9 22:47:40 2018 No.1383221 >>1380507 >Tfw have family who's a high level project manager for Kektel Where are you located faggot?

Anonymous Thu May 10 03:42:35 2018 No.1383333

That feel when I want nice tools but don't have a use for them so I just have a small collection of cheap Black and Decker tools that are even then more than I typically need. Why do I lust for power tools when I genuinely don't enjoy big enough projects that would warrant them

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 17:08:49 2018 No.1384195 >>1373153 i would kill a child to have one of those

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 17:11:32 2018 No.1384198 >>1374063 I just realised peugeot makes fucking everything. I seriously see a new completely different thing they used to make or make every week now.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 17:12:56 2018 No.1384199 >>1372660 One day you're going to value your own time.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Fri May 11 20:19:52 2018 No.1384304

>>1373153
Put your mom’s boyfriend’s tools away before he gets mad.

>>1384198
I have seen a few Peugot bicycles. My dad used to have some old Peugot road bike. Story goes he bought a bunch of bikes from a police auction and pieced it together.

>>1384199
$20 says he’s hipster as fuck and scoffs at beer that is easy to drink. 12% motor oil that only comes in growlers or nothing!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 21:13:49 2018 No.1384343 >>1383333 I have the same problem although I already own brushless dewalt impact/hammer drill but I want to buy the M12 impact/hammerdrill kit

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 21:32:53 2018 No.1384354 >>1373153 for when youre so shit at cabinetry you actually need a super duper biscuit joiner to hold things together

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 22:40:41 2018 No.1384385 Should I spend the extra $40 to get the brushless model Hitachi impact?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 22:41:52 2018 No.1384388 >>1384385 honestly yes, brushless is way better

>>	Anonymous Fri May 11 23:18:17 2018 No.1384415 >>1384385 that is the coolest impact by far, small, powerful, semi-waterproof, triple hammer

Anonymous Sat May 12 00:40:29 2018 No.1384461

>>1384415
Milwaukee's gen 3 M18 Fuel impact >>1379493 outspecs the triple hammer in every way.

if you have other Hitatchi tools its fine, but if you are looking for something new there is better out there now.

http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-m18-cordless-impact-drivers/milwaukee-2853-20

>>	Anonymous Sat May 12 00:42:10 2018 No.1384465 >>1384461 yeah but its not out for a few months

>>	Anonymous Sat May 12 01:18:41 2018 No.1384486 What's the best option for a cheap-ish impact wrench for doing menial automotive work? Just easy shit like removing tires and oil changes and small garbage like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 12 01:32:06 2018 No.1384491 >>1384486 Ryobi or Pneumatic.

Bepis !n/ZnkB9jUw Sat May 12 07:18:48 2018 No.1384609
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>>1384486
A breaker bar, any drill, and pic related.

It’s not even worth digging out the impact for oil changes because it’s one bolt. They’re nice on wheels, but the little 1/4” impacts that are super useful for electric panels probably won’t even break them loose so you’re looking at more money on a heavy 1/2” model. If you can get a kit on sale with the 1/4” drive impact included, they are nice for removing thise stupid plastic panels that are held down by a dozen screws.

Unless you wrench enough to justify a good $200+ impact, just go with the damn drill. Breaker bad to loosen the lugs, jack it up and zip them off with the screw gun, take wheel off. When done, go in reverse and tighten with the torque wrench for final 1/2 turn.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 12 07:21:23 2018 No.1384610 >>1384385 No. Import a Makita DT171 from Japan or wait for the Milwaukee Gen3

>>	Anonymous Sat May 12 13:38:56 2018 No.1384769 >>1384609 Nice, thats exactly what I needed to know. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 18:10:16 2018 No.1385653 Is it worth getting brushless? Im talking bang for buck. Have to deceide between the Bosch gsr 18v-60 c and the Bosch GSR 18-2-LI Plus. The 60c is really stretching it budget wise. Also Open for other suggestions. Located in Germany.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 18:28:04 2018 No.1385664 >>1385653 Brushless yes but going Bosch is a mistake regardless. Their cordless drills are the worst I've ever used. Shame because their cordless grinders are some of the best and their OMTs are the best available other than Fein.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 18:36:08 2018 No.1385670 >>1385664 What would you get instead?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 18:42:25 2018 No.1385679 >>1384610 What drill goes best with that td171?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 13 19:35:15 2018 No.1385714 File: 100 KB, 1000x1000, 61G2KmQHp3L._SL1000_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1372632

Anonymous Sun May 13 19:55:12 2018 No.1385731

>>1385653
>>1385670
>decent with good bang/buck
milfuckee
dewhilt

if you're light duty occasional stuff you can go rigid or ryobi

honestly the shilling in this thread is making my eyes hurt, there's so much marketing wank being ejaculated everywhere with team red going "look at my HUUUGE numbers my numbers are so BIG" you'd think it's a fucking bukakke thread

Anonymous Sun May 13 20:08:43 2018 No.1385736

>>1385679
XPH12Z is the current mainline Brushless Hammer Drill Makita makes, the XPH07Z is larger and more powerful but is mostly for really heavy duty work.

If you are going crazy and importing from Japan go grab a TP141DZB too
>>1372995, not as powerful as a purpose-built tool but theres something nifty about having an impact driver and hammer drill built into the same tool.

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Anonymous Mon May 14 03:51:31 2018 No.1385922

>>1385670
Fein, Makita, DeWalt or Festool.

>>1385679
If you want power, the DHP481, If you want some power, similar speed with the hammer function, DHP484, if you can sacrifice torque but want a light package for all day use (when I say sacrifice, I've still used 25mm self feed wood augers with it) DDF483.

I have all three and the CXT brushless drill. My favourite for every day is the 484, 483 when I'm doing lots of sheet metal drilling 481 when I'm drilling steel/large forstner bits in wood, CXT BL for second fixing and working with light sheet metal and PVC.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 14 21:30:15 2018 No.1386462 How are your tools and cases so clean? Should i clean my power tools? never cleaned them...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 16 00:01:36 2018 No.1387231 >>1386462 I wipe my tools down with my shirt after im done with work for the day, then toss the shirt into the washer

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