Shed build continued

[Anonymous No.1317766]

Previous thread >>1301402

Got to spend a few hours on it today. It is a real pain walking away and trying to resume after so long... I have a few more tuba fours to throw in for the front door ramp, even though I'm not sure how I'm actually gonna do for the door. I think i have to make a metal frame. Then I'm ready to roof I think. I'll do a simple shed roof on both I think... Running out of steam on this project.

I put up one piece of siding and fucked up everything about it. I cut off the tab since it runs to a corner... But now the remaining tab is a "top" tab. So I have to slide the next pieces on that side under this one. Doh. Shouldn't be hard since I also failed to cut it to width and the joint isn't on a stud. Great.

[Anonymous No.1317780]

>>1317766

[Anonymous No.1317948]

>>1317766
That wood on your base doesn't look treated. Hopefully at least your posts are....Your framing looks a little off, not sure if you want/need a header on your door.
All in all good job on building some shit.

[Anonymous No.1318065]

>>1317948
The foundation / floor is treated, but not the sill plates up. I finished the foundation a couple months ago so it has unfortunately weathered quite a bit, water sitting on the ply floor and whatnot for so long. Bummer!

I'm doing a lot of it as if it were a house. This is partly a harmless skill building exercise for the homestead... Learning a lot. But it seemed like the standard was anywhere you had an interruption of joists you had a header and jack studs. But....I don't know what I'm doing. I skipped the king studs in a few places today. Imagine it wouldn't pass inspection for a home but seems OK structurally in this application?

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1318239]

>>1317766
That shed is barely large enough to put that ladder in there, what in the possible fuck could you do with it other than hang some tools on one wall?

[Anonymous No.1318408]

>>1318239
The long section is for a push mower, garden cart, and shovels/weed eater/etc. The short section is for fuel and solvents that are currently stored indoors.

[Anonymous No.1318625]

>>1318408
But... when you finish, shed will be the indoors! Then you will need to build another shed!

[Anonymous No.1318917]

>>1318625
What if I don't put a door on that section?

[Anonymous No.1319122]

Shed im building

[Anonymous No.1319194]

>>1318408
That short sections looks like a dog house attached attached to it. Which would be a cool idea.

[Anonymous No.1319250]

>>1318917
>What if I don't put a door on that section?
Then indoor will be cold.
>>1319194
>That short sections looks like a dog house attached attached to it. Which would be a cool idea.
Ah I see, with dog, dont need a door.

[Anonymous No.1319270]

I'd like to build an 8x8 shed.

But I don't understand framing worth a fuck. Its to centre, one video said 15inch, but not the first one, and I got no clue.

Anyone just point me to a book or something?

[Anonymous No.1319271]

>>1319270

[Anonymous No.1319278]

>>1319271
mfw the first time I saw this pic
if it was a real book I would buy 2.

[Anonymous No.1319296]

>>1319270

Studs on 16 inch centers are standard for home construction but overkill for a shed. The studs aren't the complicated part. Corners and openings and roofs are the complicated part.

[Anonymous No.1319616]

>>1319270
Build a dog house to get some practice/idea.

The roof was a pain to cut out. And i hated putting the shingles on. But i have more confidence now to build a shed.

[Anonymous No.1320127]

>>1319122
Lovely! Jealous.

[Anonymous No.1320329]

>>1320127
Thanks, its taken a while but almost done now. just got to put in the doors and lay some cheapo flooring.

[Anonymous No.1320550]

>>1318625
Mfw

>anon
>89 years old
>found dead mid shed build
>spent his lifetime reproducing memesheads
>there are THROUSANDS

[Anonymous No.1320552]

>>1319194
IS EPIC IDEA.

built shelves in my garage.

One big section i put up a cattle panel.

Built a doggy door with a lever on it so i can let my pups in and chill from the back yard or ise as a dog house when cold or rain. A gate inside so they can come in and hang. Depending on what i am doing they are allowed in and out freely, penned up, or outside.

Tinnitus is a mutherfucker. Not sure if dogs are the same but i know they hear better.

6 hours of loud grinding at the very least has to be uncomfortable and the loyal fucks will suffer through it if i let them.

Sometimes run torch and shit.

Dont need a fried pup or blind one.

[Anonymous No.1320566]

>>1320329
Are those the finished walls? Is it going to be transperant?

How is the insulating on those type of "sheets" whatever is called?
I am not mistaken this right? This is not just nylon with combination of blurry picture...
I am thinking of doing part of the roof with those kind in my shed for more natural light, but we have hailstorms every summer, 2017 we had 4, and I am afraid they wont last, yet they are expensive, but glass (+ installing it) is more money so... there is no sweet spot.

How is the structural strength?

[Anonymous No.1320575]

>>1319296
>Studs on 16 inch centers are standard for home construction but overkill for a shed.


They *are* overkill, but stud lumber's cheap. I build 'em 16oc anyway, because so many other things will work out well if you do.

2nd choice, 24"oc, almost as good.

[Anonymous No.1320667]

>>1320575
16" OC is preferred if you're going to hang any upper cabinets or anything else from the wall or if you're applying a high-load finish (ie tiles).

OP: you need to add king studs to your openings and you need a lintel in your exterior walls if they are supporting roof loads.

[Anonymous No.1320669]

>>1320575
Take the studpill: stud spacing must be 12", 16" or 24" on center because sheets of OSB and drywall typically come in 4'-0". It must not be greater than 24" OC for structural purposes, but it's always better to play it safe and go with 16" if you're not an engineer and don't want to figure this shit out on your own. It's time to take the studpill, my dear.

[Anonymous No.1320676]

>>1320669

Hope you're replying to the previous guy, 'cause you and I are agreeing ;)

[Anonymous No.1320749]

>>1320667
>>Lintel

The main door opening isn't framed yet. It will have king and jack studs and a header or lintel, I think those are the same? The small door is how I "know" to do the construction, minus the lack of a king on the left. I think that will be fine given the size of the roof. The opening between the small and large parts, since that front most stud assemblage was also a corner, I didn't see the need for a king stud. If the opening lands on an existing stud, do you really need to double up the studs (normal and king) AND have the jack studs? What is the king even doing in that case?

[Anonymous No.1320781]

>>1319271
>>1319296

I know, but if I'm going to learn framing to do it, might as well over do it.

So is the book any good then?

[Anonymous No.1320810]

>>1320566
They are polycarbonate sheets. I chose the 10mm double layer stuff because it was cheapest and insulation isnt important for me. You can get thicker stuff which has better thermal properties, pic related. For me only a few walls are transparent, the rest are timber cladding, will post some more pics later.

I think they have pretty good impact resistance. IIRC polycarbonate is one of the materials used to make bullet proof glass. Obviously this cladding is less thick polycarbonate but i'd imagine that if you used a triplewall it should hold up. I would contact a manufacturer and ask them about it though.

[Anonymous No.1320890]

Shipping container master race shed reporting in.

[Anonymous No.1320903]

>>1318065
You need to try as hard as you can to:

keep the studs on 16 inch centers
keep the studs straight up and down with a level
the top should have 2 studs but you can add that later when you put the roof.

[Anonymous No.1321210]

>>1320749
Lintel and header means the same thing, yes. I'm going to break it down for you.

Header: the purpose of the header is to transfer load from whatever the wall is supporting to the jack studs and down to the foundation. A header is basically a small beam. Whenever you have an opening in a wall that is greater than the standard stud spacing, you need a header. You need to have at least two plies for your header, or any dropped beam.

Jack studs: these are essentially posts that support the header. If you're not an engineer, a good rule of thumb is to add an equal number of jack studs to the number of plies you have in your header. Say you have 2-2x8s as your header, you're going to add two jack studs on each side of the opening.

King studs: the purpose of the kind studs is to tie your door/window assembly together. Think about it: if you have just a header on top of some posts, it's going to be pretty flimsy. Normally, just add one king stud on each side of the opening. When you're dealing with two storey walls, you start getting into a situation where you need to add extra kings on the sides of your openings to resist wind loads, but that's not something you need to worry about here. So to answer your question: you don't need to add extra kings just because you landed on a stud spacing.

[Anonymous No.1321223]

>>1321210
Thanks. This mirrors what I "know" and I think I used this wonderful graphic for my initial designing.

[Anonymous No.1321253]

>>1320890

Oh look its "that guy"

[Anonymous No.1321433]

>>1320903
>the top should have 2 studs

These are usually called "top plates" since they go horizontal instead of vertical. The typical pattern is to use two *unless* the roof rafters lline up directly over the wall studs. But using two never hurts and may make fitting the siding easier -- if you are using sheet goods (T111, etc.) then you should figure out the spacing of the framing versus the sheathing before hammering stuff together.

[Anonymous No.1323135]

how far from the main house is too far? assuming you have a pickle jar of course

[Anonymous No.1323220]

>>1323135
Dunno but I hope OP's building codes allow him to build a shed against the house.

[Anonymous No.1325179]

Wanted to work on it today but it is 8 degrees and the wife is too sick to deal with kids. Basement work instead.