Post Good drills pls

[Anonymous No.1298933]

Need a good drill recommendation
Picture not related but is what I have now and is my first drill. I think it sucks.

[Anonymous No.1298953]

>>1298933
pick the one with the prettiest colour, because they're literally all the same shit.

[Anonymous No.1298960]

>>1298933
dewalt milwaukee ridgid makita same whatever.

[Anonymous No.1298962]

>>1298933
Honestly I went through 5 or 6 and finally settled on Makita just like them better and love the customer service. Mulwaukee is a very close second. I would buy what fits you the best if you dont need a power house or the best of the best i would go with hitachi, great price and good selection. Stay away from store brands cheaper for a reason. That being said Milwaukee and ridged and riobi are all tti but riobi is shit. Its like black and decker, portercable and dewalt all are Stanley but you have grades. So if any of what i fucking said makes any sense there you go.

[Anonymous No.1298965]

>>1298933
Hilti

[Anonymous No.1298968]

>>1298953
saved, thanks

[Anonymous No.1298971]

>>1298962
I watch a lot of tool reviews and I'm still unclear on what I want exactly. From what I can tell the internal construction of these old American brands are full of Chinese garbage. I'm looking to avoid those if I can.

[Anonymous No.1298980]

>>1298971
a cheap handheld tool is for use anon, they dont last forever. you're not buying an heirloom.

for any decent drill the battery will wear out way before the rest of it and the battery is 1/2 the cost of it in the first place.

spend time on your projects you do with the tools rather than how other people made things. in the end it matters very little.

if you really want to jew it up, buy a decent drill with a dead battery and learn how to replace the cells with a DIY tab spot welder. afterwards congrats you have a 200 bucks drill you got for only 50 bucks. mom would be proud.

[Anonymous No.1298982]

>>1298971
if you want domestically produced last-a-lifetime tools, you gotta buy something 50+ years old
and you better be prepared for tools that weigh 60lbs and will literally rip your arm off and beat you to death with it if you jam the bit.

[Anonymous No.1298996]

>>1298933
go for Fein or Kress :) qualitiy products

[Anonymous No.1299004]

>>1298953
>Hilti -> Hilti
>Makita -> Makita

makes you think.

Also Makita has a cheaper brand called Maktec

[Anonymous No.1299005]

>>1298953

If you actually looked at this you might have realised that makita isn't the same shit.
Yes they have a budget line aswell but it isn't a tool made out of a giant parts partsbin from "different" brands.
Makita is in my eyes still a better choice desu

[Anonymous No.1299008]

I got pic related, DHP482 just recently and I'm really liking it. It's one of the cheaper 18V drills, standalone it costs about $40-$50, but still has 50Nm torque, which is about the same as what you get from a generic midrange 220V drill. It's pretty heavy and big, especially with the 5Ah pack I got it with, but it's a great all-rounder.
With that said, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to find an equivalent in Dewalt and Milwaukee and whatever else. You can find some comparison videos that pit these drills against each other, but usually the differences aren't huge.

If you live in the US, by all means get some combo deal, everywhere else you can just buy the pieces you need, won't be any cheaper in combos.

[Anonymous No.1299012]

>>1298933
I place a vote for Rigid....I don't know if any other that has a lifetime battery guarantee...

[Anonymous No.1299017]

>>1298933
>Black & Decker

wew lad

[Anonymous No.1299022]

>>1299017
I am using one for 10 years
no problems

[Anonymous No.1299026]

[Anonymous No.1299027]

>>1299005
makita are offshoring the factories and watering down the quality while trading on their historical made-in-japan reputation.

when their rep is so damaged by shitty "value engineering" that it can no longer support their market position, they'll cash out entirely and sell the brand to one of the megacorps.

[Anonymous No.1299032]

>>1298965
I have to expand on this a bit and share some experience. In my job we launched a new workshop. We build things out of various thicknesses of Aluminum sheeting. We install pop rivets manually when some of the machines fail. When we first started there were 6 community drills and everyone was given a drill to keep for themselves. They were the newest DeWalt 20V Brushless ones. And they worked. They were tough as shit. Until they just stopped working. The trigger mechanisms have problems.Some of them were so new that we hadn't even worn the paint off the chucks and they'd go dead and refuse to come back. Within a year 5 ofthe community drills were dead and at least 4 personal drills had bitten it. Not wanting to get stranded with dead drills in the middle of a job my partner and I looked for other options and found that they'd replace them with a Hilti model if we wanted. 4 months ago we laid hands on a pair of Hilti 22V drills. They are the bargain-bin models of the Hilti lineup and they're still around $230 the last time I checked.

Long story short they're smoother and quieter than the DeWalt with the downside being that the motor is brushed, smaller and a little slower RPM. They are ergonomically better (subjective) and the chargers are much better.

Most importantly they still work just as well as when they were new. And we use the piss out of them. Yesterday for example I drilled about 1000 9/32" holes in 3/16" aluminum sheet. That's an average day.

[Anonymous No.1299035]

>>1298962
I can tell you from experience that the Porter Cable shit being made now is not on par with the DeWalt stuff. They may be part of the same conglomerate but that doesn't mean they are the same drills with different colors on them.

[Anonymous No.1299038]

>>1299026
>'professional'
if you pull on it instead of pushing you can literally rip the chuck off with half the gearbox still attached to it, spilling bearing needles all over the floor, because the only thing holding the output shaft into the gearbox is a circlip engaged into a tiny plastic lip.

i guess what makes it a 'professional' tool is that you can order a new gearbox assembly?

[Anonymous No.1299100]

>>1298953
Mfw hf is on mega tool list.

[Anonymous No.1299105]

>>1299035
Hell dewalt aint even worth a shit anymore. Bought a new brushless drill and smoked it right up the same day.

[Anonymous No.1299108]

>>1299027
Yes the lower line shit is china made. But still plenty made in Japan, usa and even some shit from germany. Dont buy the cheap shit from any brand. They all have a entry line and all have crap. Gotta say though i have a few of the makita brushless impacts and love them all. My go to is the 7/16 impact, made in japan and will fuck up everything it touches.

[Anonymous No.1299177]

>>1299108

this, people who know tools know that cheap tools are always shit tools, atleast makita doesnt hide behind other names for their shit tier.
if you are dumb enough to get a cheap makita expecting to get top tier tools you should prolly kys

[Anonymous No.1299197]

>>1298953
doesnt apex make husky tool though...

[Anonymous No.1299202]

>>1299177
I expect to to do better than a ryobi, but really I just want it for the batteries, and charger those are the Jewish things.

The question is which cheapest kit is the best as an entry level into the systems

[Anonymous No.1299203]

>>1298933
Hilti or Makita

[Anonymous No.1299227]

>>1299004
what does it make you think

[Anonymous No.1299292]

panasonic

[Anonymous No.1299344]

>>1299292
>brushless motor
seems like a meme

[Anonymous No.1299391]

>>1299344
Brushless motors are worth it for people that actually use their tools every day. One of their biggest advantages people rarely mention is that because the motors have control boards rather than basic power delays they are much "smarter" than older models and will turn themselves off to keep you from overloading the tool and burning out the motor.

As far as drills to these are the rankings:

>Better than you need tier:
Hilti, Mac, Fein, Festool, Professional Panasonics

> "Good drill" tier
Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Blue Bosch, Hitatchi, Metabo

>high end home-use tier
Kobalt, Ridgid

>good enough for around the house tier
Ryobi, porter cable, black and decker, craftsman, Word

>Chinese flea market tier
Wen, Hercules, Bauer, Earthquake

>literally who tier
Greenworks, Genesis, Rockwell, that other orange brand i can't even remember the name of

[Anonymous No.1299394]

>>1299391
Oh and

>literally Wal Mart tier
Bostitch

[Anonymous No.1299397]

>>1298933
If your not doing alot get the makita 12v impact and drill. Great little guys i use them along with my 18v shit. Just stay away from the white makita line, thats the bottom of the barrel shit. But always remember when it comes to tools you get what you pay for. The 12v wont do half of what the 18v will do but the 12v makita can whip the shit out of alot of the others brands 18/20v lines. And stay away from store brand lines, that shit isn't worth using as a paper weight

[Anonymous No.1299399]

>>1299394
I agree with the bostich power tools but the air tools are ok.

[Anonymous No.1299412]

I bought a brush-less makita for 99 how fuck'd am I boys

[Anonymous No.1299420]

>>1299412
Those should be pretty good drills, but don't offer a huge advantage over the much cheaper brushed equivalent if you don't use them a lot.

[Anonymous No.1299472]

>>1299026
What the fuck is that coin slot in the middle of the handle? Looks like a wifi connection symbol sideways is on it

[Anonymous No.1299473]

>>1299472
all new tools are Bluetooth controlled smart tools with mics,and sensor so the government can kill you easier, that cover is for the brush motor used to kill you in case the bluetooth failed

[Anonymous No.1299494]

>>1299473
That's not where the motor brushes are, it just looks like a brush cover.

[Anonymous No.1299498]

>>1299472
slot for a BT module
>not using botnet tools

[Anonymous No.1299543]

>>1299412
this one?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-18-Volt-LXT-Lithium-Ion-Compact-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Driver-Drill-Kit-with-1-Battery-3-0Ah-XFD061/301444915

you're fine Makitas are great, even their white "home-use" line of tools is still pretty solid, they just cut a few corners to keep the prices low.

[Anonymous No.1299546]

>>1299391
>that other orange brand i can't even remember the name of
Triton Tools

also add Nemo Underwater power tools to the ">Better than you need tier"

[Anonymous No.1299668]

>>1299494
That is for the special motor with a brush with an undetectable substance the government yes to poison people.it is the smart tools "cooling" fan motors brush

[Anonymous No.1299669]

>>1299473
>>1299494
>>1299668
it is definitely wifi logo

[Anonymous No.1299676]

>>1299391
we have some old festool drills at work, they are loud, weird ergonomics, slow speed and not enough umpf, only redeemable thing is 90° chuck
the newer ones look better, but dint use them yet

[Anonymous No.1299679]

>>1299669
its a slot for a BT module (shekels$$$)
connect it with the app and tweak on some parameters
>"kickback" control
>LED on duration
clearly catering to the hipster market

im honestly ashamed of my fellow landspeople, giving in to botnet and memetools

[Anonymous No.1299686]

>>1299679
It to collect data to better improve the tool since they literally don't know what to do, the only thing left is make them.die faster so you buy new ones. It totally not a CIA NSA plant to. Spy on people and kill them.by using their smart tools against them.

[Anonymous No.1299794]

>>1298980
The only cordless drills available nowadays that are not made in China, are going to be the Fein and Festool drills which are made in Germany, but which likely contain some Chinese parts. The batteries for the Fein drills are made in Korea if I’m not mistaken, and the chargers for both brands might be from China. Makita assembles some items, possibly including cordless drills, in the USA, but the components are likely from overseas. Quality should still be good. Dewalt may have some cordless tools assembled in the USA, but the components might come from anywhere, Mexico COO tended to be common for the higher end Dewalt tools recently, with the lower end stuff comming from China. Metabo might have some cordless drills made in Germany, but some of the cordless drill lines were being made in China. Mafell is rebranded Metabo but with mods that make the electronics better. At least with Makita and Dewalt, there are a wide variety of tools that use the same battery platform.

[Anonymous No.1299896]

>>1299676
If the speed is too low, the drills you have might be the CDD series. This is just a guess based on personal experience. Do the drills have weird L shaped batteries? These drills came out before brushless motors, and lithium batteries were being extensively used. Internally, the motor is in the handle and is offset 90 degrees from the gear case and chuck. This was to make a shorter drill that could still get into tight spaces. The current Festool C18 drills have a similar shape, but the handles are slightly thinner in diameter with a higher speed motor and gears. The motors are brudhless so it sits right behind the gear case. The clutch is more ergonomic, and has more settings. Festool also makes a couple extra chuck adapters, two depth adjustable ones for setting screws, and the close quarter one for getting next to walls.

[Anonymous No.1299898]

Bill's drills of thrills

[Anonymous No.1300156]

>>1299896
yeah its the one with L shape shitty niCad
the newer are T18 with electronic clutch (absolutely fantastic feature)
but that C18 tho 200€
i really want ave to dissect one of them sometime, to shitty he mostly does American stuff and not south Germany (best Germany)

[Anonymous No.1300197]

>>1299794
>At least with Makita and Dewalt, there are a wide variety of tools that use the same battery platform.

this really is a great feature whether you care for it or not

[Anonymous No.1300202]

>>1299498
genuinely cannot tell if this is a bait post
:(

[Anonymous No.1300211]

>>1298933
B&D is absolute shit tier OP.

For job use I'd say get a Hilti SF-6, 8 (metal) or 10 (masonry & wood), they got torque, feel good in the hand and are reliable. Only con, they aren't brushless. They aren't cheap, but you get 2 years of warranty (whatever happens to your machine, they will fix it) and cost limit repair after that period (around 35% of the tool's price).

If you just want something for home use, then Makita will do the trick. I got myself a hammer drill with standard non LTX batteries and shitty bit sets for 150€ and it's nice.

[Anonymous No.1300218]

>>1299100

Her Q Lee's mother fucker!

[Anonymous No.1300232]

>>1299391
updated

>Better than you need tier:
Hilti, Mac, Fein, Festool/Protool, Snap On, Professional Panasonics, Nemo Underwater

> "Good drill" tier
Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Blue Bosch, Hitatchi, Metabo

>high end home-use tier
24v Kobalt, Ridgid

>good enough for around the house tier
Ryobi, porter cable, black and decker, craftsman, Worx, 20v Kobalt, Stanley

>Chinese flea market tier
Wen, Hercules, Bauer, Earthquake

>literally who tier
Greenworks, Genesis, Rockwell, Triton, everything else

[Anonymous No.1300235]

Milwaukee M12s are always the right choice.

[Anonymous No.1300237]

if it looks like something out of a sci-fi movie it cannot be bad

[Anonymous No.1300311]

>>1300156
The speed range on the drills was pretty much standard for many cordless drills when those first came out. The Festool weren’t the most powerful when they were in production but were decent. In the midst of production Milwaukee/Aeg came out with the higher speed 14.4v and 18v Lok-torq drills that upped the gear speed by 25% or so, and that sort of set a new standard and other manufacturers followed Milwaukee.

[Anonymous No.1300315]

>>1300232
Porter-Cable and Craftsman ought to be on a different tier from Ryobi and B&D IMO. The first two are decent homeowner tools that I've even seen stand up to long-term light professional use, the second two are pretty much trash.

[Anonymous No.1300320]

>>1300232
Hilti and Panasonic cordless tools are made in the same manufacturing facility in China. Hilti are usually the higher quality more feature laden version. The batteries likely contain the same components but are made to be non-interchangeable.

Mac tools is owned by Stanley Black and Decker, so the drills are either just rebranded Dewalt drills or use Dewalt components maybe up tweaked for quality.

Hitachi tools recently purchased Metabo, and then was sold to a US venture capitol firm, no clue whether any of the tool lines will be integrated, or how quality will be affected.

[Anonymous No.1300331]

>>1300315
>Craftsman

you do know they are literally black Ryobis? they are made by the same people in the same factories and are pretty much exactly the same now. at least Ryobi has a much wider selection of tools and newer high performance brushless stuff.

[Anonymous No.1300333]

>>1300320
Mac tools are just better Dewalts for more automotive and industrial applications. they even share batteries but Macs are usually built to higher standards to last in tougher environments.

[Anonymous No.1300335]

>>1300232
>retard alert

[Anonymous No.1300446]

>>1300331
Damn, my experience is with their somewhat older stuff so I didn't realize they were Ryobi now. Their ~2010 tools were actually pretty damn good, especially the cordless impacts, we got years of beating the shit out of them at my old shop. (The owner bought Craftsman as a temporary solution when he opened the shop in 2011, figuring he'd get something better when the tools died, but they were still going strong as of a few months ago when I last visited.)

[Anonymous No.1300508]

>>1299004

In some regions their cheap brand is SSP which refers to Solid Simple Power but they have Makita stamped on there somewhere

[Anonymous No.1300691]

>>1300446
brands are just stickers now anon, the big guys have all these known brands and distribute the quality level.

[Anonymous No.1301348]

>>1300235
so much this.

it’s like the 21st century equivalent of the yesteryear lore of Sears/Craftsman tools.