Are gedore wrenches any good? Particularly gedore india wrenches. I recently found a No. 4 7/16 gedore india wrench and wanted a full set but I've read that they are terrible

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Anonymous Fri Oct 13 00:09:55 2017 No.1259493 [Reply] [Original]

Are gedore wrenches any good? Particularly gedore india wrenches.

I recently found a No. 4 7/16 gedore india wrench and wanted a full set but I've read that they are terrible

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 00:36:10 2017 No.1259500 >>1259493 It's from India. Do you really need to know anything more? Have you ever seen or heard anything good coming out of that shithole? You're better off throwing it out and buying chinkshit. At least the chinks build shit with the tools they make.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 01:53:29 2017 No.1259517

>>1259493
That looks a lot like the wrenches that came out of Japan in the 70s. Or the wrenches that came out of Taiwan in the 80s. Or the wrenches that came out of China in the 90s. In other words, it looks like crap. There appears to be no machining or polishing at all. I can't really see the inside of the box side or the faces of the open-ended sides jaws but I don't think they did anything beyond the absolute minimum. The accuracy is probably low and the steel is probably shit. It will either bend like a pool noodle or snap like like uncooked spaghetti if you really crank on it. Probably great for rounding the corners off of bolts, though. Buy some for someone you don't like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 09:25:31 2017 No.1259644 >>1259493 Gedore had a venture with India back ages ago that ended some time in the mid 80s, they where widely regarded as some of the worst hand tools around at the time. The German stuff is reputedly a lot better

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 09:53:32 2017 No.1259649 >>1259493 wow. that looks like a sand cast tool. Probably would make a good fishing weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 10:17:58 2017 No.1259658 >>1259493 The German ones are good. Indian not so much. If you want cheap wrenches, get something modern made in Taiwan. The quality will be decent and they will have off-corner engagement on the box ends.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 11:35:24 2017 No.1259681 Chinese use Chinese tools, Germans use German tools, Americans use ... what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 11:38:42 2017 No.1259682 >>1259681 Chinese and German tools.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 11:39:11 2017 No.1259683 >>1259681 >Americans use ... what? on a budget - chinese, taiwanese, japanese a little longer lasting - usa generic a bit more money - german mortgage house & car title loan - snap-on

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 12:40:52 2017 No.1259708 File: 1.04 MB, 2446x3040, IMG_1945.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heres the dimensions of the open end I know its not german but If they're so terrible then why are they like 100-300 dollars on KC tool?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 13:19:54 2017 No.1259725 File: 93 KB, 1000x1000, must_be_good.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1259708 >They're expensive so they must be good! Can I interest you in some power tools while you're at it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 13:48:22 2017 No.1259734 >>1259725 No thanks, but most expensive things are nice

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 16:44:05 2017 No.1259814 >>1259683 Taiwanese are sometimes better than murican. Ive had broken murican made impact sockets and wrenches but those powerbuilt and tekton from taiwan are pretty decent. Plus some newer snap on is made in taiwan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 16:46:25 2017 No.1259815 >>1259814 >Plus some newer snap on is made in taiwan. All of their handtools are made in USA

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 17:19:59 2017 No.1259834 >>1259815 Ratchets are chink shit now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 17:54:43 2017 No.1259841 >>1259834 All of their handtools are made in USA

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 19:13:08 2017 No.1259875 >>1259841 Ratchets are chink shit now

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 20:37:13 2017 No.1259898

>>1259815
https://store.snapon.com/Aluminum-Housing-Tape-Rules-Tape-Rule-Metric-5-m-P648098.aspx
https://store.snapon.com/Standard-Handle-inches-Blue-Point-174--12-Point-7-16-Combination-Wrench-Blue-Point--P884260.aspx
https://store.snapon.com/ExtEnded-Reach-Hose-Grip-Blue-Point-174--Pliers-Hose-Grip-Small-Extended-Reach-Blue-Point--P648247.aspx
https://store.snapon.com/Lock-A-Socket-Trays-1-4-Drive-SAE-Lock-A-Socket-trade--P892157.aspx
https://store.snapon.com/Ratcheting-Tap-Wrenches-Blue-Point-174--0-1-4-Ratcheting-Tap-Wrench-Blue-Point--P647347.aspx

And so on....

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 20:46:05 2017 No.1259901 >>1259898 >>1259875 Tons of Snap-on stuff is outsourced, but the ratchets are definitely still USA. I don't think there has ever been a Snap-on branded ratchet that wasn't made in USA.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 20:58:57 2017 No.1259905

>>1259875
>Ratchets are chink shit now

Prove it faggot

>>1259898
>posts blue point shit

Blue point is a brand like Williams is a brand like Bahco is a brand, all owned by Snap-On for their imported tools.

Good job finding those imported Snap-On ratchets you are clamoring about like a retard.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:01:20 2017 No.1259906

>>1259901
>I don't think there has ever been a Snap-on branded ratchet that wasn't made in USA.

There hasnt been a single Snap-on branded hand tool that wasnt made in the USA, unless you consider a tape measure or a cheap pocket knife a "hand tool".
Thats literally the whole point of buying up auxiliary brands, so you can say "My taiwanese blue-point tools are a Snap-On brand so I know its still good"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:24:29 2017 No.1259914 >>1259905 >Prove it faggot order a rebuild kit and see for yourself. there's a reason the fucking things don't have USA stamped on them anymore

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:29:56 2017 No.1259915

>>1259914
The burden of proof is on you sonny.

The whole "doesnt have USA stamped on it anymore" thing happened with ONE ratchet almost 5 years ago. SnapOn released a statement that it WAS in fact made in the USA. Still the outcry was so loud they immediately changed their tooling and added it back less than a year later.

You obviously dont own or buy Snap-On tools to be this ignorant about them.
I know you vaguely remember hearing something about it some time ago so its ok to just regurgitate whatever reality youve made up to everyone else.
We get it, you think SnapOn is too expensive

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:30:45 2017 No.1259916

>>1259905
>>1259906
https://store.snapon.com/PARTS-Ratchet-Head-P674683.aspx

Not branded. Not Blue Point. Snap-On and chinashit for $49

A 5m tape measure that costs $24.30 and sold by Snap-On should be made in the USA, or at least Germany or even Taiwan.

I'm also not the original guy that said "Ratchets are chink shit now." I just hate Snap-On because they sell their name to CostCo and Tractor Supply. It's only a matter of years until they completely sell their brand away and all their tools are foreign-made. The ratchets that are USA made no longer say it on the tool. Check it the next time the tool truck comes by. It is conditioning so that nobody makes a big fuss when they make the move.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:35:06 2017 No.1259919

>>1259916
Did you even bother to search for "repair kit"?
Every single Snap On branded one says made in the USA on it.

Im not going to post a bunch of links, but here is literally the first result
https://store.snapon.com/PARTS-1-2-Drive-Quick-Release-Ratchet-Repair-Kit-P664187.aspx

Good job finding and "unbranded" kit that has nothing to do with their ratchets.

I dont like that they are licensing out their name for pocket knives and flashlights either, but it doesnt change that their core hand tools arent changing

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:37:47 2017 No.1259920 >>1259916 >A 5m tape measure that costs $24.30 and sold by Snap-On should be made in the USA Starret stopped making USA made tapes, they were Snapons OEM.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:37:52 2017 No.1259921

>>1259915
you sound like a fucking shill, might as well turn you trip on faggot cock sucker. go order a rebuilt kit, it has China plastered all over it. even has that chink stink. sorry bruh but your precious $400 ratchet is nothing more then some scrap some chink made for 2 cents

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:39:20 2017 No.1259923

>>1259921
>you sound like a fucking shill

No, im an actual customer not just some faggot who has to justify why he wont buy from a company every time they are brought up. You are just ignorant, the repair kits you are whining about are literally right on the site for you to look at.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:41:19 2017 No.1259925 >>1259923 >No, im an actual customer so denial then? don't worry son i'm sure Snap-On going to chink scrap won't affect the mortgage you took out to buy overpriced inferior tools

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:43:26 2017 No.1259926 File: 42 KB, 243x305, 1506566010596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1259925 >devolve to personal insults when you realized you slowly realized you were wrong That really hurts my feelings anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:45:11 2017 No.1259928 >>1259926 problem is i'm not wrong. you're just delusional and can't admit to yourself that you're paying a premium price for chink junk

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:49:01 2017 No.1259929
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>>1259928
Well either the company who is under labeling laws is lying to me, or the guy who incorrectly regurgitated some information from 5 years and couldnt search correctly on a website is wrong.

Hmm Im not sure who to believe.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:51:49 2017 No.1259932

>>1259928
Hey now, the ratchets are actually still made in the USA and even the Chinese stuff is way better than any shit you can get from Harbor Freight or most of the other big stores.

I actually retract my previous statement about the USA stamping. Just watched a few videos and it does look like its still on there, just hard to see because its usually on the underside of the handle. Oh well.

I do think Snap-On is expensive as hell, but I don't want to make people think it's the same as the Chinesium you can get from everyone else. If you have the cash their tools are markedly better than most of the competition.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:53:41 2017 No.1259933

>>1259929
they removed the stamp for a reason. if it's made in the US and always has been why would they remove the stamp? they wouldn't, it wouldn't make any fucking sense. go ahead and order a rebuild kit and see for yourself. the handles are made in the US but the internals are just chink which of course is also why they don't last long anymore. not only are they saving a ton on manufacturing in China but they also get to sell even more overpriced rebuild kits. it's a win-win for them and no one notices anything different because they are blinded by brand loyalty

i'll stick to Gray, at least with them i can go right to the factory and watch them make the fucking things. i can even buy a tool fresh out of the oven

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:53:47 2017 No.1259934

>>1259932
>but I don't want to make people think it's the same as the Chinesium you can get from everyone else

People dont care, harbor freight is flourishing for a reason.
When the extent of work people do is changing their oil twice a year, who is going to spend money on real tools?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:55:05 2017 No.1259936 >>1259933 >they removed the stamp for a reason. The stamp is back >go ahead and order a rebuild kit and see for yourself. https://store.snapon.com/PARTS-1-2-Drive-Quick-Release-Ratchet-Repair-Kit-P664187.aspx Check the website for COO

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:56:10 2017 No.1259939 >>1259933 You literally have to have a COO on everything they sell, and if you use internals that are not USA it has to say BUILT in the USA. Labeling laws are strict, go ahead and prove it

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:57:32 2017 No.1259940

>>1259932
chink tools are pretty shitty but Taiwan is pretty damn good. they have surpassed most US brands and are only a fraction of the price. warrantying a tool is also far faster and more convenient. why the fuck would i sit around for 2 weeks waiting for the tool truck to show up and exchange my tool when i can go to a store and have a brand new one in my hand in 5 min?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:57:59 2017 No.1259941 >>1259934 Honestly changing my own oil sounds stupid to me. I did it a few times and saved like $5 each time. Fuck that. I'll spend my time saving $100 on a bigger job instead. But yeah, the allure of cheap shit is hard to resist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 21:58:45 2017 No.1259943 >>1259936 website doesn't mean jack fucking shit. order the fucking thing and see first hand. 100% it'll have China written all over it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:00:32 2017 No.1259945 >>1259941 yep, dealer can change oil in my truck for about $30 less then i can do it myself. they also rotate the tires, top up all other fluids and do some dumb 50 point inspection

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:00:32 2017 No.1259946

>>1259943
>100% it'll have China written all over it

kek
I remember the outcry from simply removing the USA stamp on the ratchet, it was immense. Do you know the shitstorm that would have happened if they actually outsourced those parts and labelled them (which they have to by law?)

It hasnt happened no matter how hard you want to justify not liking the brand.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:02:12 2017 No.1259949

>>1259946
that's exactly what they did which is why they removed the stamp and why people got pissed. sure the stamp is back now but that's only because they only need a certain percentage of the fucking thing to be made in the US to use the stamp. order the fucking kit and see for yourself

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:05:33 2017 No.1259953 >>1259949 >order the fucking kit and see for yourself The kit has to be labelled too you fucking idiot. The rebuild kits are their own entity and cant be mislabeled. The kits still get sent out, if it were to happen you would have heard about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:09:52 2017 No.1259956 >>1259953 yes they are labelled, order the fucking thing and you'll see the chink label

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:11:21 2017 No.1259957

>>1259956
>order the fucking thing and you'll see the chink label

Prove it. You obviously through your tirade dont buy Snapon yourself so how would you know?
Nobody on huge forums like GarageJournal have ever made a peep about it.

Why should anyone believe you over believing the actual company?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:12:40 2017 No.1259958 File: 126 KB, 1280x960, s-l1600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1259957 Here is a picture of a brand new one on ebay Must be old stock!

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:15:50 2017 No.1259961

>>1259957
i have plenty of their shitty tools, yes i've bought the kits and yes they are made in fucking CHINA. i have about a dozen of their shitty ratchets sitting broken in my junk box because THEY DON'T FUCKING LAST. order the fucking thing and see for yourself, or are you too poor to even own a fucking ratchet to use it on? bet you're just some faggot 15 year old kid that thinks snap on is the shit because you saw an actual mechanic use their tools once

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:16:24 2017 No.1259962 >>1259958 God, why is Snap-On's online presence so shit? Main site is slow and this link is broken.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:16:45 2017 No.1259963

question what are you planning on using these tools for, if its a once a year thing who the fuck cares if they are cheap indian, chinesium or americun metal are you going to be pulling that much force on them? if you strip a bolt just smash a smaller wrench on it and get it off, i have only ever damaged a shitty wrench one and that was with a 6 ft bar on it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:17:57 2017 No.1259965 >>1259961 Why wouldn't you get them replaced with the lifetime warranty and sell them for $100 each then? Not many people keep a few hundred dollars in their junk box.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:18:47 2017 No.1259966

>>1259961
>devolving to personal insults again
>even though the packaging from 2/2/2017 for internals say made in the USA
>even though the tool is stamped USA

You win, I supposed ill get in on that huge class action lawsuit when it turns out that SnapOn has a gigantic conspiracy to lie about their labeling!

>>1259965
Who blatantly ignores labeling thats right in his face?
Ignore him

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:20:38 2017 No.1259968 >>1259965 >Why wouldn't you get them replaced with the lifetime warranty and sell them for $100 each then? Because the tool truck only comes once every two weeks. They are so shit he broke all of them last week and is waiting to replace them!

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:24:35 2017 No.1259969

>>1259965
few hundred? try thousands. $300 ratchets add up pretty quick. i fixed them several times but their chink internals simply don't last more then a year or so. warranty just gives me more of the same shitty chink kits and i got sick of waiting for the fucking truck to come every 2 weeks. no point selling them, wouldn't give those pieces of trash to my worst enemy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:26:24 2017 No.1259970 >>1259969 lol Even the new rubber handled ratchets only push $120 As if we needed any more posts showing how clueless you really are You break a bunch of torque wrenches there anon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:30:52 2017 No.1259972 >>1259970 >$120 maybe for a shitty 1/4", everything else is $200+ USD then there's the currency exchange and freight have never broke a torque wrench but that's probably just because i don't own a piece of shit snap on torque

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:32:00 2017 No.1259974 >>1259972 >then there's the currency exchange and freight You pay shipping to your tool truck guy?

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:39:25 2017 No.1259978

>>1259972
I think I figured it out. You're an Aussie or some other foreigner right? And you're being butt-fucked by the currency difference and shipping and all that. You're probably not getting the real deal USA Snap-On tools and actually buying fakes.

Otherwise you're just full of shit.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 22:52:24 2017 No.1259983

>>1259974
it's built right into the price so they kinda try to hide it. truck guy is decent enough that he actually shows his invoices so you can see what his costs are and yes there's freight on every single tool. a 1/2 flex head ratchet was something like $20 for shipping and if i remember right $260USD. converted it works out to $330 but once the truck guy has to account for the freight it's more like $350 then the taxes bump it up to about $400. $400 for a shitty chink ratchet is just fucking insane. it wouldn't be so bad if they actually lasted but that kind of money and you only get a year out of it? fuck that shit. i import Canadian tools now and they can take a beating snap on could only dream of and are less then half the cost

>>1259978
nope, right off the truck, no fake shit. of course it's possible the internals are sourced different from the US but still chink shit either way

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 23:01:25 2017 No.1259986 >thread about Gedore wrenches turns into a shitfest arguing about whether Snap-on lies about country of origin Can't we all just get along?

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 23:31:40 2017 No.1259994

>>1259986
It always happens when snapon is brought up. It offends people that you might actually buy a decent tool not made in a sweatshop. So much so that they frabricate some fake outrage and lies about the company being shady and lying to you about COO. Makes them feel better about their sweatshop tools I guess. Putting his fellow Americans out of a job.

If you work for a living some things like principle matter more than a few bucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 23:43:28 2017 No.1260000 >>1259994 I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I'd say that Snap-on is a shady, greedy corporation (like most), and the tools are ridiculously expensive at full MSRP, but the hardline tools actually are good and truly made in the US.

Anonymous Fri Oct 13 23:52:07 2017 No.1260003

>>1260000
Did you see the recent factory tour that Trump did with the Snap-On CEO? He said that the loyalty of the customers was so high they would ask for the little Snap-On boxes to have their ashes put in. Trump replied that was depressing lol.

Yeah there's a reason most of the aircraft mechanics I work with (I'm computer science) own Snap-On. They're good tools and the mechanics are paid well enough to part with that kind of cash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 00:46:18 2017 No.1260017 File: 3.95 MB, 2448x3264, 1507956193803196172411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is why you don't cheap out, if it breaks it wont just fall off it can fly and kill you some hand tools included, I was lucky

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 00:50:41 2017 No.1260020 File: 2.61 MB, 1836x3264, 1507956494750-339383388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1260017

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 01:12:30 2017 No.1260023 >>1260017 >>1260020 wtf did you do? i abuse the fuck out of my tools but i've NEVER broke an extension

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 01:13:00 2017 No.1260024 >>1260017 I don't think I'd call buying Canada-made Gray tools "cheaping out" though. I'm not very familiar with Canadian tools, but I'm guessing they're still a lot more expensive than China/Taiwan stuff.

Anonymous Sat Oct 14 01:22:20 2017 No.1260025

>>1260024
Gray is tough as fuck. right up there with Snap-on and all the others. they are an industrial brand and have kept things basic so no gimmicks or flashy shit, just basic tough tools. their idea of a high tooth count ratchet is 40 teeth. things vary depending on the item but they are about half the price of snap-on

i have some Gray ratchets from the 40s my grandfather gave me, pretty fucking weird compared to the new ones. also tons of wrenches of various ages. all still in good shape and working fine and my grandfather was known to wreck a lot of tools. found an entire box full of snapped wrenches, mostly craftsman and mastercraft(Canadian tire house brand) but only a couple of Grays

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 02:00:24 2017 No.1260036 >>1259500 Actually, India has been making steel longer than anyone. Ever heard of Wootz steel?

Anonymous Sat Oct 14 02:43:09 2017 No.1260044

>>1259994
>a decent tool not made in a sweatshop
I dunno, if its not made in a slave labour camp by malnourished heathens that feel the need to take a day off by jumping off the tallest building in the complex- is it really forged with the necessary pain and tempered in suffering required of a truly magical item?

Anonymous Sat Oct 14 12:07:33 2017 No.1260151

>>1260036
And Iraq used to be a center for learning and technology. For the last 500 years, it has been a token chunk of land fought over by larger powers and is only valuable for its natural resources. It has literal shit running down the streets of its capital city and entire blocks covered in ad hoc flaming garbage dumps it is so primitive. Times change. Just because India had some nice steel 2600 years ago doesn't mean that make anything worth a damn now.

Anonymous Sat Oct 14 22:27:41 2017 No.1260448

>>1260036
i have a few old tools made in India. they held up to my grandfather so must be pretty decent. also finding quite a few made in Japan. no brand or anything on them, just says "Japan". i can only assume they have been folded a few million times and are the best tools in existence

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 23:28:56 2017 No.1260466 >>1260044 Is that the smell that emanates from harbor freight the second you walk in? Smell of hardened souls in your tools

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 23:54:50 2017 No.1260488 >>1260466 Close, its the smell of minimum wage and sexually frustrated baby boomers hunting for bargains. Unfortunately for us in the west all you can make with that combination is Ikea flat packs and really bad concreting :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 00:11:42 2017 No.1260495 >>1259493 Yes, i have a few and are really rally tought. But try to buy the ones made in brazil

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