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1804520 No.1804520 [Reply] [Original]

I have an old router and I planned to use it as a WLAN for my CCTV set up

I don't want to connect my NVR to the internet as I don't want Chinese people spying on me.

Plugged in the router to NVR and connect to that router. But I can't seem to connect as the router wants internet.

Is what I'm doing retarded as I can't find any help online for a wlan using an old router

I even tired reolink advice and I think they're deliberately making fun of people with these explanations...

>> No.1804522

>>1804520

Method 5. Connect a CCTV Camera System to PC/Mac (with or without Network)

Reolink security camera systems, like the PoE kit RLK8-410B4, have their own proprietary networks, and can work with and without your router network.

Here's how:
How to connect a CCTV security camera system to a computer without router network

Step 1. Connect all the cameras to the NVR.

When you receive the new IP camera system you bought, connect all the devices you got – connect the NVR to your computer's monitor and the mouse, use the power adapters to charge the NVR and cameras, etc. For a WiFi system, once the WiFi NVR and the WiFi cameras are charged, they connected to each other automatically and would start to communicate. For a PoE system, connect the PoE cameras to the NVR via the network cables provided.

Step 2. Start watching the IP cameras.

The startup and setup wizard will pop up to guide you to watch your cameras and do other configurations.

Now you can see all the IP cameras on your monitor and start recording.
How to connect a CCTV security camera system to a computer with router network

Step 1. Do the step 1 shown above again.

Step 2. Connect the NVR to your router via the network cable provided.

Step 3. Start watching the IP cameras.

The startup and setup wizard will pop up to guide you to watch your cameras and do other configurations.

If you need to see the IP cameras from another computer that is not in the same network, you need to input the NVR's UID into the software to remotely access the cameras.

>> No.1804672

draw what you want and give us model numbers

>> No.1804740

>>1804520
A router? So, not a switch at all? How is this all connected? Like, are you connecting the NVR to one side of the router and your PC to the other?

>> No.1805174

>>1804520
ITT op doesn't know what a switch or a router is but assumes he does. At least you didn't splerg.

Consider dd-wrt on your shithole router, or maybe RTFM.

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1805213

>>1804672
>>1804740
>>1805174
sorry guys I really thought this woudl be easy

I dont know the difference between a switch and a router, maybe thats why Im a retard.

Like the attached set up - when I don't have the internet the wifi doesn't work anymore.
Why not?

I thought I could plug in an old router and use it to connect to within the range of the router. But when it doesn't have internet connection it just refuses to let me in.

I know how to make an old router a slave, is this the same to make it a switch?

Or do I have to buy a dedicated switch. I must have been ignorant thinking a router just broadcast a wlan.

Why Im confused is REOLINK said the camera system will work with or without internet. SO I assumed it meant on an internal wifi network with no internet. Why the fuck does it need internet to work?

Did I explain it better this time?

I will look into dd-wrt now also, never heard of it

>> No.1805287

>>1805213
So, the thing with routers is they can be set to handle your network or to just passthrough shit from another router. Switches just allow you to connect a bunch of devices into the same network (unless you have some fancy-pants managed switch, which cost a lot). If "the router" is managing your network then it is doing DNS and DHCP duties. So, what is the range of IP address it is handing out?

If your computer has an IP address that is not in the range, you won't be able to talk to it. Let's say your computer's address is 192.168.0.10 and that router is 192.168.1.1. Those two addresses generally can't talk because the first three octets need to match for them to be on the same network (For a basic setup. There are exceptions).

Here is what I would do: reset the router to factory settings and see what the default IP address of it is. Make sure your computer is on the same network (first three octets of the IP address match) and see if you can log into it.

>> No.1805409

>>1805213
Ddwrt is an alternative software for older routers. If its on the list of compatible routers it'll work. Way better than the factory software. What I would do is just install ddwrt on the router and configure it to be only a switch and an wireless access point. Then tie the Lan connection of the pvr to the switch side of the router, not the wan. The router will then give you a diff ssid to access your cameras, albeit seperate.

To keep it on the same Lan as your house but not on the internet, plug the wan of the slave into the master and enable routing services. Use the master to NOT route out from the Internet to the slave. Again, ddwrt is guaranteed to provide this functionality if it runs on your hardware. If you're using the factory stuff, RTFM or find a nerd to help you. Unless you see this stuff working it's not easy to explain to the uninitiated on 4chan. I'd suspect you're gonna have dumb questions about what I wrote and that's ok, that's how we can help, but only you can learn and apply these concepts.

>> No.1805411

>>1805213
And one last thing. Many factory images do exactly as you describe. You need a different image like ddwrt, tomato, etc or a diff router. Shit, even just an access point would do.

>> No.1805599

>>1804520
What is the router model?

You should be able to connect devices to a router to create an "offline" network (when my internet goes out everything still works). People saying use a switch but switches normally don't hand out IP addresses.

OP are you just trying to have this network exist for a computer to be hooked up to or connect at random?

You do know that if you don't open the ports for the CCTV you can't get to them from outside your network?

>> No.1805745

>>1805287
>>1805409
this makes sense, and I might tackle the ddwrt, what you said sound doable especially if I find it on youtube.

Do I really need a switch at all. What I was trying to do was have all on one network. I wanted to use the Reolink app to log into the NVR not type individual IPs to cameras.

So what >>1805599 says is what I imagined
>OP are you just trying to have this network exist for a computer to be hooked up to or connect at random?

I want to be able to login with my camera or phone (when connected the same wifi router the nvr is plugged into) using the reolink software. It asks for the UID of the NVR to access it.
But when I have no internet connection it doesn't work - I have to have internet connection.
When I plug in the internet, it works and I am connected to the NR. I can even pull out the plug and it conintues working for a time, then it disconnects/cant login in to the NVR anymore.

I thought this is beacuse the signal on the router drops to zero and it keep redirecting me to the "no internet" default page.

I'm using old BT Homehubs, but I will also buy a new router if that is what is needed e.g random amazon grab TP-Link TL-WR841N

>>You should be able to connect devices to a router to create an "offline" network (when my internet goes out everything still works).
That's what I thought would happen automatically by not having the internet plugged in, but basically the router is annoyed it has no internet and I cca't connect to the NVR. I don't want it available on the internet, just withni my house so I dont have to look at a monitor to view the NVR

Or should I ignore the reolink software if that is the problem and try the NVR directly?

>> No.1805934

>>1805745
Some routers won't dhcp or even function if the wan port isnt up. Bad programming really. The router has a switch built in, it's the block with all the ports. What u don't see and may be helpful is dhcp, along with WLAN which is why a router is ideal for this.

Its also possible your NVR software demands the Internet not the router. That or you're just shit at addressing.

>> No.1805934,1 [INTERNAL] 

Good afternoon! Do you have any security system or just cameras? I guess I can recommend a reliable solution. There are a lot of companies, for example, Ajax, that produces professional security systems. When they installed my home system, I asked them if there is an opportunity to connect the old cameras I had before to the system, so I could control everything including the cameras through the brand app. They can do it. So, maybe you have already thought about such a system. That way, you could avoid a wi-fi connection because that security system works from its own sim card. I hope this information will be helpful!