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Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:20:56 2018 No.1459217 [Reply] [Original]

So I'm thinking of buying this old Band Saw for 300$ and giving it a restoration. Guy says it still works. any thoughts comments or advice?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:21:43 2018 No.1459218 File: 32 KB, 333x450, 00e0e_cLaIx18VElO_600x450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:23:36 2018 No.1459219 >>1459217 >any thoughts One loose piece of clothing away from killing you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:25:20 2018 No.1459222 File: 30 KB, 600x450, 00t0t_igMtO2K7fCb_600x450.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've seen some of these from the 20s but that old oiler on the top and flat belt pulley makes me think 1890's or 1900's

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:25:34 2018 No.1459223 >>1459217 cringe why are u buying boomer tools

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:26:40 2018 No.1459224 >>1459223 You're a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:28:27 2018 No.1459225 >>1459217 They look cool but are useless as tools. Once you put the guards on it, it won't look cool any more. Get a regular 14 inch bandsaw, they're common, cheap blades, cheap parts, and usually are available for about 200-250 bucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 13:30:26 2018 No.1459227 File: 79 KB, 517x750, 7c6a26028c10a4d2c72d47c1950243f2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1459217 I think the price is good. If you have the tools to restore it - DO IT!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:00:47 2018 No.1459276 >>1459225 how is a made in china bandsaw going to be better than an old cast iron western made one for the same price? OP's bandsaw might legitimately be a better tool when it's restored.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:01:49 2018 No.1459279 >>1459217 I'd offer him $225

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:05:07 2018 No.1459281 >>1459224 t. boomer who still uses tools from the renaissance age

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:05:37 2018 No.1459282 >>1459217 but does it do metal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:39:49 2018 No.1459291 >>1459227 looks nice!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 15:53:15 2018 No.1459295 >>1459219 Most tools are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 16:22:02 2018 No.1459304 >>1459217 Hell yeah buy it!

Anonymous Thu Sep 6 17:21:38 2018 No.1459329

>>1459276
>OP's bandsaw might legitimately be a better tool when it's restored.

It might be, it also might be a finicky old worn out piece of iron that is a pain in the ass to use and expensive to repair.

>>1459217
Just because something is old and built heavy doesnt mean its worth buying.

This is not the same thing as "buy a bridgeport" and "buy a south bend" sentiment. Those are known commodities with cheap and easy to find parts. and they are useful enough to take up the that much space.

I would never waste my garage space with a bandsaw like this unless I had very VERY specific purpose for it.

old = gud doesnt always mean old = practical

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 17:41:43 2018 No.1459339 >>1459222 Hey I work for the company who put them out of business. Cool!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 18:00:57 2018 No.1459349 >>1459329 its a bandsaw, whats there to wear out? check for wheel bearing and if worn replace the table is a wood board

Anonymous Thu Sep 6 18:18:50 2018 No.1459358

>>1459276
It depends on what you mean by *better*. I love old tools and have lots of them, but in some cases like kill-o-matic death bandsaw, the risks of using the tool far outweigh the benefits.

I wouldn't have that thing in a shop. OSHA wouldn't allow that thing in a shop.

I agree that the death-o-matic bandsaw *looks* super cool and would be fun to restore and would probably work better than a regular 14 bandsaw.

The 14 bandsaws are fine. They kind of suck, but whatever. Easy to repair and lots of upgrade parts available.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 18:19:52 2018 No.1459359 >>1459282 No you need a lot stiffer blade and rolling support bearings for metal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 19:07:44 2018 No.1459386 >>1459349 >whats there to wear out? The blade tensioning system, which is the one thing that makes or breaks a bandsaw. Not to mention everybody had their own version of it back then some of which worked well others which didnt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 6 19:58:19 2018 No.1459409 >>1459359 then what's the use? >inb4 OP buys an entire garage of machine tools for wood expands

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 7 01:54:34 2018 No.1459571 >>1459217 $300 is way too much bro. about a penny a pound for scrap iron is the limit.

Anonymous Fri Sep 7 17:15:57 2018 No.1459998

>>1459217
I would love one of those, but 300 is probably a bit high for a pre-restoration saw. It's going to need a lot of work, including all the wires replaced - based on it's age I bet it has old asbestos insulated wires that are just crumbling. Also a lot of de-rusting and probably bearing replacements - the drive hub looks like it's exposed and based on the rust the bearing may be compromised.

How good are you at restoration? That would be a killer project, but it's going to stretch the limits of the average backyard DIYer. What do you plan to do with it when you are done? It'd be fine for home use, or to restore for hobby's sake, but you'll never get your time and money worth back out of it again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 7 18:48:43 2018 No.1460048 File: 2.99 MB, 200x164, 1533283021548.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1459227 >dat machine

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 7 18:55:00 2018 No.1460050 >>1459571 Scrap iron is about 50 cent per Kg

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 7 22:15:20 2018 No.1460151 >>1459339 Really? You were around in 1945 when Crescent was bought out by Rockwell/Delta? Or are you talking about 1953 when Rockwell sold off the Crescent name to another company that still exists today (Alloy Machining)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 7 22:44:58 2018 No.1460157 >>1459217 >So I'm thinking of buying this old Band Saw for 300$ you'd be ripped off if you bought it for over 50

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 8 02:06:07 2018 No.1460215 >>1459227 that's lovely. would never use it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 8 09:03:41 2018 No.1460324 >>1459217 JUST DO IT love old machinery often very sturdy and over all good to handle

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 8 10:06:46 2018 No.1460338 >>1460050 I can buy brand new iron for that price. Who pays 50 cents?

Anonymous Sat Sep 8 17:57:18 2018 No.1460547

Lots of bandsaw restoration projects on youtube. Here's one by a boat building channel I like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG0LHtYq48k . I say go for it. It's a decent price and if you have any access to lumber at all you can pay it back in projects quickly. You can also offer to rent it out as a mill for an hourly price.

I'd suggest buying a new motor and belt and checking all the bearings. Don't bother trying to use the existing motor even if it works imo

Anonymous Sat Sep 8 18:18:46 2018 No.1460556

>>1460547
>Don't bother trying to use the existing motor even if it works imo

why is that? If there is little radial shaft play then the bearings/bushings are ok. If it runs and draws normal current and does not overheat or smoke then why swap it? Do you swap the motors in your furnace/fridge/AC etc., every few years?

Old motors sometimes have oil ports where you put 10 or so drops of 20 wt oil, or whatever the nameplate says. If so, I'd do that, run it some, then add maybe 1/2 the amount, but don't go crazy and fill it up with oil.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 8 18:48:58 2018 No.1460566 >>1459217 LOL Savty First!

Anonymous Sat Sep 8 19:34:19 2018 No.1460591

Old cast iron metal working tools are typically valued because they are VERY rigid compared to modern tools in the same price range. They are also designed to be 100% serviceable IF you have access to a machine shop. Sometimes you can get by with off the shelf bushings, shafting, etc. Sometimes not. Decide where you sit in capability, enjoy a quality tool if you can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 8 22:53:18 2018 No.1460714 >>1459217 Why NOT buy the thing? Easy ass motor to change should it ever die. Plus you have a reliable band saw. Why WOULDN'T you buy it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 9 08:54:23 2018 No.1460950 >>1459281 Says the child whose only DIY project is his penis.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 9 19:40:09 2018 No.1461275 The bearings might be some old fashioned solid poured lead type.. Same way they Did the bearing on crankshafts of old engines..

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 9 19:45:40 2018 No.1461278 >>1460714 >Why WOULDN'T you buy it? Because its 300$ BEFORE restoration, and its a physically large one trick pony that isnt practical for most people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 9 19:50:03 2018 No.1461281 >>1461278 And $8000 after restoration Something a boomer puts in his man cave as a show piece.

Anonymous Sun Sep 9 20:20:42 2018 No.1461299

>>1461281
I dont quite understand the boomer meme where its supposed to mean a 30 year old now or something?
Regardless, I frequent a local consignment shop because there is a booth with old tools for a fair price.(bought a slightly beat up 7 drawer kennedy box there for 25$ yesterday for example)

For like 6 weeks there has been an old smallish treadle scroll saw that was like $200. I always laughed because to me its pretty fucking worthless and way too much money.
When I was there yesterday I saw some early 60s guy buying it and stuffing it in the back of his corolla.

Baffling

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 04:33:12 2018 No.1461474 Are you going to make some kind of cover for it? Otherwise it's just a question of time until someone dies or loses a leg.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 05:29:59 2018 No.1461486 >>1459217 "Restoring" it would only destroy the value. Sell it to a Cracker Barrel as is as a nostalgia piece. Maybe spot weld moving parts so curious hands don't get pinched.

Anonymous Mon Sep 10 06:11:21 2018 No.1461492

>>1461299
Can't speak for his deal but I also love old tools. Aesthetically, quality wise, less cancer-inducing and semen killing plastics, and they're worth good money instead of losing 50% of their value as soon as you exit the store. My father and both grandpas all had workshops full of cool metal and steel tools, unfortunately they all died within a few years when I was very young so it got spread before the winds and I had to build my own kit from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 06:12:33 2018 No.1461493 >>1461492 >metal and steel metal and wood

Anonymous Mon Sep 10 08:31:38 2018 No.1461538

>>1461299
A Boomer is now anyone who has a car and a job, They are scum because they abandoned the Noble life of Freedom and sold out to the oppressive System.

That could be refurbished and sold profitably. It would also be an awesome tool to use.

Extra care must be used due to lack of safety covers, you might build a thin wooden box to enclose the base, but don't modify the saw.

Don't let idiots use it, (or any tool you own for that matter)

Offer $250.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 10:37:30 2018 No.1461592 >>1461281 Yeah, obviously. Are you the same guy who said that a rusty beaten tap and die set in a half-broken case is worth $1200?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 10:48:17 2018 No.1461593 >>1461592 he mean't you'd have to put $7300 into it, to make it usable. Even then it wouldn't be worth $300

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 11:02:24 2018 No.1461599 >>1461592 No, I’m actually one of the intellectuals on this board. >>1461593 No I didn’t mean that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 11:12:43 2018 No.1461607 >>1461599 >No, I’m actually one of the intellectuals on this board. Please use a tripcode so it's easier for the rest of us to find the good posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 10 19:46:42 2018 No.1461898 >>1459217 I'd replace that belt and pulley on the motor with an original style leather flat belt

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 14 16:09:12 2018 No.1464080 >>1461599 Yeah I never trust a self proclaimed intellectual on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 14 16:25:19 2018 No.1464081 >>1464080 Your loss.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 14 16:26:16 2018 No.1464083 >>1464081 >>1461599 I'd be more inclined to believe you if you didn't want to be viewed as an "intellectual".

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