/diy/ - Do It Yourself

selling junk on ebay....

Bot games and sell virtual items for real money.

But seriously, there probably isn't and even if there was the window would be small so anyone who knew about it wouldn't tell someone else on this high traffic image board.

My friend was just telling me today about how his uncle makes hundred of monies drop shipping on ebay.

Basically, you find things cheap on the internet where stock and price is pretty much guaranteed (like from a big supplier of computer cables or USB drives or something similar).

Next you put that item up on ebay at a little bit more than what it costs to buy from the big wholesale supplier.

Finally, when someone buys it, you order it from the original site and have it shipped directly to the buyer instead of to your house making a little bit of profit for yourself.

Always the option of putting viruses onto peoples computers, getting their accounts. (Such as WoW or Runescape) Then sell the gold to some 12 year old.

To be honest, making money off the internet takes a lot of your time for very little profit, and most of it pushes the boundaries of being, you know legal

Overall, get a fucking job.

>>73908
Wait, I can fill out surveys for money?

>>73935
For like a nickel a dozen.

>>70391

>>73908
Internet marketing is by no means something you jump into and begin making (any real) money in. It takes months of reading, research, learning, and trial and error. You also have to keep in mind what the internet is (Basically images, video, and text) and realize to make any real money it will require lots of that to be CREATED (duplicate content = junk money)
also, no blogging = no real money without going into grey legal areas
>>73922
there's real money to be made online. LEGAL methods. the flaw is people like OP not willing to do any of them/put in time to learn it properly, and thus fail misserably.

2 months ago I started my newest stream of income with my internet marketing (its always wise to be in multiple things at once. all your eggs basket yada yada.) I'm currently only making 300 a month on it due to the slow buildup of my method, but should be pushing 1-2k/mo by february.

No, I wont tell you exactly what im doing. But general rule: Test multiple methods. Throw out the ones you are not comfortable
doing (personal taste in methods), Throw out ones absolutely flunking even after -really- trying (junk methods for your doings), focus on the few that seem to be working (devote more resources/energy/time/etc). Scale the working ones up. Repeat process for more income.

>>73977
to elaborate more in the "ways to make money" area:

CPA (Cost per action): Gives you a few cents to a few bucks when someone submits there information (Those "ENTER YOUR EMAIL TO WIN AN IPOD" type pages)

CPC (Cost per click): Adsense is the most popular. every time someone clicks the ad, you get a few cents.

Article writing: websites will purchase your unique articles. they check for copied content so dont think you can just steal something online. you can make 1-5 bucks per article from multiple sites, or become a freelancer for website owners etc

Ebay/Dropshipping: Mentioned earlier here. Its alot of work trying to find products with decent profit. Also remember: bootlegs are dangerous and can yield years in prison if you dont know what your doing. stay away from them if your a noobie. do NOT ignore that warning.

>>73980
affiliate sales. advertise other peoples products, sites, subcriptions, ebooks, etc. You get a cut of the revenue if they buy through yoru link. This was my first online venture method, at a high I made 100/day, but it took lots of writing and i've since left that area completely. it still makes buku cash for people, my methods just died

It's also possible to do reselling on ebay. Go browsing online retailers and find shit that's on sale for a day at a price significantly below online retail. Buy a good quantity then the next day list them on ebay at just below online retail price. If they get bought, you've just earned a very nice chunk of cash, particularly if these are pricier electronics and etc (100 dollars a day isn't considered high in this scenario, and pros can make several hundred a day). That's also the main flaw with this method however, the "if". It can be a big hit or miss, because most items that go on sale aren't in high demand. You have to have a very good real-time understanding of market demand, and recognize genuinely good bargains from items that retailers are just trying to get rid of. Sucks buying 10 monitors for $1000 only to discover they're shit and no one wants them.

Betting on exchange betting sites like BetDaq and Betfair can be quite profitable if you know how to play your cards right. Ideally you want to "trade" your bets in the dynamic market environment that are live odds. You should seek to get a profit regardless of the outcome of the match.

The basic strategy goes like, you bet AGAINST (this is called a lay) a draw in a soccer match, then you bet IN FAVOR OF (back) the draw the moment a team scores; since now a draw is much more unlikely, your bet for the draw will outsell your lay against the draw.

Cons: You need both a sizable chunk of money to rack up noticeable benefits and discipline to keep a bankroll (i.e. do not bet all of your money on every event because shit will go awry eventually)

Make money on the Internet?

Provide a service of some kind. What can you do that's useful to somebody else? Can you do anything useful at all? Can you run a blog, or something of that nature?

Sometimes it's enough just to be entertaining. (This is the Internet after all.) If you can run a Tumblr, Wordpress or something of that nature, then you can probably utilize it as a way to make cash, provided that what you do is make people laugh or think or anything like that.

If you're fundamentally an uncreative person, then there's little use to trying to make money off the 'net.

There are also e-zines and electronic publications that you could consider. With the success of the Kindle and other electric paper devices out there, there is a new market for writers who otherwise wouldn't ever see the light of day. This is good for the authors, big and small alike; but remember that writing something worth doing takes time and that marketing it is essential to get it out there. It's a bit like selling your soul, marketing, but it's a necessary evil unless you're planning on writing the next House of Leaves.

>>74072
lacking in creative personality and not being funny does not seal your ability to make cash online.

Many high revenue websites are designed on the principle that someone just wrote about what they know. Alot. then did it even more. and kept writing about this until they had an entire website dedicated to whatever the knowledge was,and became an authority figure.

You can make some change at Mechanical Turk, if you're okay with spending hours of your time to make small money for menial tasks. I made $20 over 6 hours while watching animu in another panel.

>>73908
>>73908
not really off internet. But i am part of a media counting (idk the right word) thing. that you wear a device that keeps track of how often you wear it and records what tv radio n shit you listen to. you gets money every month and a bonus every now and then. i think im up to. 600 bucks from wearing a tiny pager like device every day. arbitron.com

there is also mturk shit you can do on amazon. if you want to try to better your useless ass learn another language you can make monies doing stuff computers can not easily do and cheaper to have humans do.
amazon.com/mturk/

I suggest forex.

read up on forums, open a demo account with a good provider i suggest oander and start trading for a good 6 months and then go in with a real money account.

>>73919
For some reason this sounds illegal.

>>73977
FFUUUU
I am so uncreative, so I have to resort to SEOing websites. I'm doing alright, but it kills me that I can never come up with any remotely creative methods to promote CPA offers. The ones that I do come up with require insane amounts of capital investment.

Sites I've actually made money on were:

>Fiverr
Alright but the buyers can be pretty demanding and you need to be a little lucky.

>Ebay
I bet you have some old shit to sell

>Etsy
You do have to be pretty crafty and be selling a good product. I sold some hand bound book for £30 so its possible.

BAMP

What was that blogger thing that used to go around on /b/, where they had threads about making a blog and then post the link in the thread, and for every hit you got some money ?

>>76618
a scam

>>76620
how ?

>>76626
well, it didn't work, at least, or if it did, people weren't making a living off it

What's the best way to make cash off adsense ?

could we talk more about this article writing business?

what type of stuff/articles are they looking for, academic?
what are the scam/legit sites--my google search came up with a lot of "too good to be true" results--and what kind of money you can make? (not expecting anything big).

if anyone has experience with this, that'd be a great help, it sounds pretty interesting, and like a viable option.

I've been intending to start up a blog site, not so much as a income stream but as a hobby.

But with a high level of content, articles, videos, reviews, etc.

Would be great if i generated some cash though.

What about day trading?

If you can draw, write or both you can make a webcomic although those don't make much money, quickly.
Or selling stuff.

>>76645

If you can write might I suggest Amazon KDP and Createspace, I'm currently making some bank with a couple of books. Not big money yet, but I'm getting there. Think about it, Kindle is the best selling e-reader, and the royalty is 70%, $2.99 seems to be the sweet price point, and with 2 titles and a third coming I sell between 50 and 75 books a month. It took me about 6 weeks to write the 2 books using every minute of spare time.

The good thing about this is that once you write the book you get paid every month...... forever.

you have to realize that online you are competing with the world. That's why goldfarmers in china can make a living off of it but you can't here. You're competing with third world people whose acceptable hourly wage is less than a tenth of yours.

So the only way for first world people to make real money is one of three things.

1) make a website that enables social marketing. once you get big enough you can sell out. This is a very crowded market though and is becoming harder and harder to break into everyday.

2) run several blogs / webcomics. You need to be legitimately interested in your blog topic or dedicated to the webcomic though. Professional bloggers tend to run more than one blog and are very active in their community. Professional webcomic authors tend to be good at self promotion and go to cons. You have to be willing to generate content 5 days a week, (minimum 3 for webcomics). If you can't meet content deadlines, you have to find guest bloggers / artists to make sure your site isn't dead in the water for several days.

3) sell stuff to a niche market. you can't compete with amazon on prices but you can compete with selection. For example, I think amazon carries two different brands of gymnast rings, but there are 3 or 4 sites that cater to gymnasts and sell dozens of varieties of shapes and sizes. Sell stuff that you know a lot about to other people in your market. Once your store is doing okay, you can become a seller on amazon or ebay too.

>>76688
what books if you don't mind me asking?
whats a good length for a 3$ book?

>>76688
Woah really? You can write like a whole novel for free? And they pay you? For free?
Only EBook form right? No printing?

>>76697

I'd prefer to stay Anon if that's ok widchu?

>>76700

Yes, yes, and yes. No printing, although I have sold a few hard copies of 1 title through Createspace. They print and fulfill on demand, so no inventory.

KDP: https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/signin

Createspace: https://www.createspace.com/

Someone already said it, mturk - search that shit in 4chan archive and make some money, one guy made a very useful thread on /adv/.

>>76697

sorry I missed the length question, 8000-10,000 words is a good length, there is also a short story program called "Kindle Singles"

>>76709
What do you mean with 70% royalty?

Make a useful product and sell it online.

Pic related: The current haul for today and it's not even noon, yet.

>>76715

Amazon pay you 70% of the sale price and they keep 30% for expenses.

Traditional publishers will typically pay a first time author about 8% of the sale price.

>>76717
What are you selling?

>>76720

If he told you that, he would have more competition and make less money in the future, so he's not going to tell you that.

>>76720

Crop-specific lighting.

>>76723

There is no competition besides idiot cheap chinese LED panel resellers, and even then, they aren't competition.

I lead the optoelectronic horticulture industry. This is why China has it's ass in a wad right now over rare-earth stuff like indium and gallium, I've encouraged multiple USA mines to re-open.

I also have other businesses that make much more money. This is just a pet project.

>>76727

specific hydro crops require a certain type of light?

Specializing really earns.

Nice.

>>76735

More like specific crops only require specific light wavelengths in order to grow to maximum potential. Not all plants have the same requirements.

And yes, it does pay very well. 3.5+ million yearly on this pet project alone.

>>76727
So... You make pot growing lights? Is that it?

>>76737
It's very strange to see people doing well on 4chan. I wish I could make something useful and sell it for millions.

>>76739

Quit being ignorant.

That's why you aren't making money.

Pot lights, what a tool.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2il1ydc&s=7

That look like pot to you?

>>76707
>>76707
I just checked the archives for mturk.
No results.

What is it ?

>>76744


He's probably never seen pot.

Nice video, talk about gaining growing efficiencies, I'm assuming they are lettuce? I'm in Australia, and we do a lot of that stuff here, as we have issues with water. Proper light wavelength is not something I've explored.

>>76750
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Mechanical_Turk

Derp

>>76752

It's a tough lettuce to grow under any artificial light. And it's kicking major ass under the LED.

Also, 90% water reduction, 60% nutrient reduction, and still producing more in 1/8 of an acre than a full flat acre of land.

>>76744
I don't actually familiarize myself with pot. Take a joke, man.

>>76757

A joke made in ignorance is still ignorant.

>>76753
It says the money goes into your amazon payments account. I'm presuming thats like paypal or something, I don't use amazon so I wouldn't know.

>>76759
Okay man. Whatever.
So how much of this do you sell? Do you sell like one or two lights for a single plant or do you sell like a whole farm room worth of lights?

>>76760

It can go directly to a bank account as well. You would have noticed that had you kept reading a few more sentences.

>>76761

I sell both.

I even make customized modules for the right price.

>>76761

>whatever

The typical response of someone that has just been soundly trashed.

>>76763
How much does it cost you to manufacture one of the most common lights you make?
>>76765
I'm not denying the truth of that statement.

>>76727
Wow. You're making it sound like you're the world leader.

>>76768

I am the world leader. I even have no-light technology for growing multiple fodder grasses, food crops, and certain biofuel algae.

>>76766

My most commonly sold 150w costs about $600 to make (without cutting corners) and I sell it for $850.

>>76770
Well then. Sounds like you aren't having troubles with money.

OP can just learn how to make crop lights and sell them.

>>76772

OP would need years of horticulture, biology, and agriculture to even think about it.

>>76774

TO boot, OP would need a research facility, like mine - http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2r5gleg&s=7 - to conduct proper testing and verification.

>>76770
the R&D probably cost more than what anyone else in this thread can afford, even if you solo'd it

>>76775
Well damn.

>>76776

R&D alone is about $3M.

Let's not get into manufacturing.

>>76774
OP needs to buy one lighting system and copy it.

>>76788
Someone start a how to make a matter copier thread.

>>76790
>Implying there is no such thing as reverse engineering.

>>76797
That sounds difficult and complicated. With a matter copier you can just pop in the item and have another one.

>>76788

>implying OP could actually copy the complex physics behind making a mesopitch carbon heat sink to handle 300w in a 30mm x 30mm package.

>>76788

>implying OP could actually copy the complex physics behind making a mesopitch carbon heat sink to handle 300w in a 30mm x 30mm package.

Are ya sure it's that simple? :D Reverse-engineering isn't always that easy to do, especially when you're working with exotic materials.

Selling shit in second life.

There's another way. Enter legit contests hosted by reputable contests.

A friend of mine made $50,000 worth of prizes last year.

Are you feeling lucky?

>>76828
>Enter legit contests hosted by reputable contests.
What?

>>76831
Companies hold contests online yeah? You enter them.

You win, enjoy winnings.

I kind of feel sorry for Americans though, you pay taxes on any winnings. That just sucks.

>>76835
I didn't understand you when you said "contests hosted by reputable contests".

>>76836
Brain fart.

>>73977
This guy is on the ball.

Only one thing you need to really illicit from this post.

When you discover something that works TELL NOBODY!

Buy cheap crap on taobao.com (the chinese ebay, use a translator + shopping service like taobaospree or taobaonow)
Sell it on etsy or ebay for double the price
I've made some money with Lady Gaga-style sunglasses and "alternative" jewellery, stuff like that. Just keep the taobao items light and small shipping to the US doesn't cost a fortune

>>76688
>>76688
>>76688
Sorry if this has already been asked, but what kind of books do you write? Fiction? Non fiction? Manuals?

>>76859

Sci-Fi.

Sci_Fi, Magic, Fantasy & Vampires are hot right now. But do your research, and write what you know and like.

>>76868


and to add to that post, Space Opera and Amish County Murder Mysteries are also hot.

>>76868
>>76872
Sweeeet, thanks! Also, do I need to have anything copyrighted? And how do I do so with E books?

>>76727

Led Light guy I was wondering if you needed an intern?

>>76877

If you wrote it, copyright is assumed. Easily proven by publication date.

>>76880
But what happens if it's not copyrighted? Can they screw you over in some way? Like not pay you as much, or not at all?

Sell your underwear or dirty socks. Seriously.

>>76885

Copyright is automatic IF YOU WRITE IT. You don't have to do anything else.

Read wikipedia if you can't understand the above.

>>76759
lettucefag, here again trolling about your hydroponic lettuce and LED lights?

Also, yes, he does grow pot. Lots of it.

>>77060
Another pic of lettucefag.

>>76770
lettucefag, you're sprouting plants in the dark. Anyone and his grandmother could do this. All you're doing is pumping it up as "low light technology"

>>76902
Though, it'd be better if you were to say, print it out and mail it to yourself w/o opening. That way should you ever need to, you can prove that it in-fact was created before a specific date.

Purely online stuff is copyright, but a good deal harder to prove.

>>76770
>sprouting seeds in water
>no light technology
lol

>>76775
That's not your research facility either. You work for http://www.h2ofarm.co.uk/.. I know because you spew your shit in every thread even remotely involving farming.

>>76808
Don't need to copy shit. It's not like lettucefag makes his own either.
ecchina d0t com/product-detail/17685.html

lettucefag, stop trolling with your semantic bullshit. Your low light technology is nothing more than sprouting seeds in water. People have been doing that for centuries. "Your" research facility is owned by a company you work for. You don't make LED panels either.

Also, cut down on the weed. It's messing up your brain.

>>77069


lol 1980 called, it wants it's ideas back.

From the wiki link I posted earlier:

A widely circulated strategy to avoid the cost of copyright registration is referred to as the "poor man's copyright." It proposes that the creator send the work to himself in a sealed envelope by registered mail, using the postmark to establish the date. This technique has not been recognized in any published opinions of the United States courts. The United States Copyright Office makes clear that the technique is no substitute for actual registration.[22] The United Kingdom Intellectual Property Office discusses the technique but does not recommend its use.[23]

pic unrelated, but good advice.

>>77098
>no substitute for actual registration

Never said it was. We weren't discussing registered copyrights. We were discussing "automatic" copyright. Obviously, you're not going to bring a suit using an unregistered copyright. I simply meant as a defense should someone else claim that you're infringing on theirs.

Reading comprehension, how does it work? That's right, you don't, you just look for one or two terms and then copy/paste shit from wikipedia.

>>77112
>>77112
>>77112


Here's the original question:

>Sweeeet, thanks! Also, do I need to have anything copyrighted? And how do I do so with E books?


Here's my answer:

>If you wrote it, copyright is assumed. Easily proven by publication date.

and here's the next question

>But what happens if it's not copyrighted? Can they screw you over in some way? Like not pay you as much, or not at all?


And here's my answer.

>Copyright is automatic IF YOU WRITE IT. You don't have to do anything else.

>Read wikipedia if you can't understand the above.

and heres the basis for my answer:

>Copypasted from the US Copyright Office website FAQ:

Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.”

*

By all means register if you think you will need to, but you probably won't need to.

Reading Comprehension? Pull your fucking head in.

This is a good thread. Too much pot talk, though.

>>73919
is this legal...?

The person would have an idea what youre doing when they recieved the packaging.

>>78253
ship it to you, rebox it.
Ship it to them.

Need some help.

Is buying stuff off of Craigs list and selling it for a little bit higher profit worth it?

I have like 4 phones - 2 Touch Pro 2's, 2 HD2's, and 1 HD7....that I could sell.
As well as beginning to buy Xbox360's that are broken and fixing them then selling them back online.

Is this a legit way to make money or am I really just going to spin my wheels?

A few days ago I realized that lots of people just throw away electronics and now I can see lots of cheap electronics that i can buy and sell for profit.

Web comics and video games seem alright, though I don't make them myself. Project Wonderful seems like it can net tens of dollars a day for a average comic as long as it updates regularly. Not much, but I think good enough if you're talking extra cash. No idea how video games do for the most part, though I imagine it's fairly reasonable. I remember a flash game called "Level Up!" in which the authors claimed they made less an hour than if they were flipping burgers, though I don't know if the same holds true for downloadable games, or really if it's at all representative. I'd like to get into one of these, either for until I learn to drive and get do something else or get good enough to to rely on it as a real job. Didn't seriously consider writing a book before, I'll look into that.

>>76902
I did not know that, my teachers always told me to get my work "copyrighted" first and foremost, if I ever wanted to publish it.

Thank you for the info!

>>78273
Many people do what you just described; it's a modern day Maw & Paw business without the brick and mortar establishment. Success would depend on a number of factors. If you're in the middle of bumfuck nowhere demand might be low but you might also be able to charge higher than the average used price. If you're in a big city demand might be higher but you'll be competing with every underpaid Geek Squad employee with nothing better to do with their off-time and who who knows a little more than just their company's Boot Disc. Electronics degrade in value pretty rapidly too. Every day something you intend to sell and have been advertising heavily still sits on your shelf you probably stand to make less on it. You might opt to hang on to it on the off chance demand may some day exceed supply but the odds for that happening are usually worse than the odds of a better device coming along that surpasses the one you want to sell. In these cases one usually ends up selling for less than they'd hoped just to regain some shelf space. Or they throw it in their attic with the idea that they'll pass it on to their grandchildren (read: money spent, no profit made). Consider the Apple II's. They're a piece of computer history but nobody is going to spend more than $150 for one (if you're lucky) because they're useless by today's standards. Plus they're ugly as sin. Somebody looking to buy something they'll never use can spend about the same amount (or less) on a typewriter from their local Salvation Army or Maw & Paw Antique Store (if they haven't all gone under) and at least it might look good on their desk.

>>78427 cont'd

If you've the storage space to spare and/or are willing to learn some new skills (and/or willing to split business with a skilled friend or friends) try to expand what it is you're willing to repair/resell. The biggest benefit of expanding, personal enrichment aside, is a larger amount of items to sell/charge for servicing. I mention in nearly every homebrew thread that I was able to get ~$300 worth of equipment for $60 via a craigslist advert. I use the equipment but if I didn't have interest in it as a hobby I could have turned a respectable profit. Motorcycles are worth parting out too. They take up less space than cars or trucks and you don't need a whole lot of mechanical know-how if you're just taking them apart with no intention of putting them back together yourself. You still want to get them as cheap as possible, sell off the parts that will make you the most money and then bulk-sell the remainder as parts for the next guy.

It doesn't have to be motorcycles or homebrew equipment either. My friend has what was originally probably a $1600 - $2000 rear-projection HDTV. After a couple years of use it crapped out. Turns out cheap factory solder led to convergence board issues on that model; internal temperatures would get too high for it and the solder would crack and cause one of there fuses to blow. He was getting quotes in the range of $400 for repairs. Together we spent probably $35 to fix it and about $33.50 for the soldering iron & solder, the damned fuse was like a buck for two via ebay. I've never soldered a day in my life before that but we installed the first fuse and it blew again a month or so later. Next time around I had bought some solder-wick and completely redid the solder-points on the convergence board; it's been working flawlessly for longer than it did before it originally failed and now I can search for cheap/free televisions with similar boards and issues and flip them for a few hundred a pop.

>>78436
>and about $33.50 of it*
That is to say if we'd already had a soldering iron, solder and solder-wick the $400-quoted repair would've only cost $1.50 for the replacement fuses.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned online poker yet

If you're disciplined enough you can AUTOMATICALLY make money on limit tables

If you're smart enough you can play no limits, but that's way tougher and riskier

A friend of mine made so much money in three months that he felt guilty and donated it all... No bullshit. The guy is smart as hell tho, and he was able to play six tables simultaneously...

>>78500
sounds way too risky.

>>78500
Problem with that is that you're playing the game of statistics. Yeah, the odds are that an ace is slightly more likely to come up soon... but there's still plenty of non-ace cards left too. Unless you've got a substantial lump of money to start with and sit there for hours on end, there's still a distinct possibility you're going home empty handed.

Hell, at that point I'd rather play the stocks. I'm in customs brokerage, so I know that more often than not the CAD tends to go up against the USD on Fridays, and drop back down on Mondays. If I REALLY wanted to play with statistics, I'd take that a lot sooner than poker.

>>78677
The trick is to play your opponents, not your cards.

>>78253
>is this legal
>that's every retailer ever since forever

Team Fortress 2, I heard people will pay 300-400 dollars (USD) for a unusual hat. Make sure you stay under the radar from getting audit from the I.R.S.

Has this been archived yet? Because it needs to be.

>>78937

It mostly needs a bump and some more ideas!

Shits been.... just fantastic.

Learn LIMIT Hold-'em strategy (the one that isn't No-Limit Hold-'em).

Program a bot to play online LIMIT Hold-'em.
Limit hold-'em is more statistic based than no-limit. You'll find that there is a smaller level of variation in profits/losses with it, which is more adept for lengthy grinding--which is why a bot would be good because it could just grind for you.

bump for more ideas

>>79584

Here's an idea!

I'm a member of "freecycle" where people give their unwanted stuff away, I've seen people give away almost new mountain bikes, lounges, whitegoods etc.
I've even seen cars given away. Get some free stuff, sell it on Craigslist or ebay,

pic unrelated

bump

From an older thread:

well...
- Amazon MTURK: little money for much time&effort and you only get paid in Amazon gift cards
- I saw that Amazon gift cards on Ebay sell more than they are worth, but there's too much risk with stupid buyers, Paypal etc.

not worth it, really. go find a job, maybe your university needs some people.

-fatwallet.com
seriously go to the forums free section, they have tons of deals on how to get stuff free, my girlfriend did a live survey for wikipedia and got a $75 amazon gift card for about an hour of her time. and I get free stuff from different companies, just small freebie stuff, but sometimes they send coupons for free stuff as well.

>>79954

-Internet Marketing fag here.

Been doing it semi-professionally for about 5 years, including hybernation times when real life got too busy, figuring out new things, etc etc.

1. Read alot, but do not ONLY read. I spent the first year of my IM career reading everything I could find, but never taking action/stopping almost immediately after starting. because of this, I yielded NO results. the few instances I would sit down and really DO something, I'd start bringing in the bacon. this is by far the BIGGEST issue, becoming self motivated enough to actually read, think, plan and DO.

2. don't put all your eggs in one basket. My experience has tought me to read multiple ideas, theres literally an infinant amount of ways to make money, broken down only by the "type" of money making it is, cpc, cpa, craigslist, ebay, article writing, spinning, web design, the list goes on and on. do NOT get one idea and ride it out. the best thing i discovered is to read up, get 5-10 methods you like, plan each one out (kind of rough draft style) and start implimenting 2-3 at a time. if after 60 days you see no results at all and have actually TRIED, cross it out, keep ones that make money and refine the idea, and move to the next batch. also if one method stops working, you'll have backups.

3. INVEST. i was a firm believer of "build from nothing" for the first years of my experience. it worked once, and i admit it was good (100 a day were my end results with 0 investment money wise) but onlyt hat once. since then i've learned to spend money to properly attack a plan. it pays off in the long run. I'm currently invested in 600 dollars worth of my current project, after 2 months ive brought in 300. I plan to break even in december, then start turning 1k a month around january/february, from there I will be scaling everything up until i'm at a comfortible 2k a month

good luck. dont give up, and make sure you actually START before giving up. reading is not doing.

>>76774

Well, then what was the point of you even posting?

>>76902

It's smarter to legally copyright any work. Assumed copyright generally doesn't stand up in court and can be refuted relatively easily. For example, changing the color of shoes someone's cartoon character.

>>79984

>It's smarter to legally copyright any work.

By creating the work you have legal protection in accordance with the Berne Convention.

>Assumed copyright generally doesn't stand up in court and can be refuted relatively easily.

Do you have any proof of this? Or are you talking through your ass?

> For example, changing the color of shoes someone's cartoon character.

Oh that would explain why their are so many likenesses of Micky Mouse with different coloured shoes. Oh wait....

I keep hearing "Internet Marketing"...

What, exactly, does this entail? It sounds like such an umbrella term...

How about cybersquatting?

Learn how to make custom animu plushies and/or fursuits
Sell them online for loadsamunny

You would not believe what fangirls and furfags are willing to pay for shit.

>>73908
Seriously, if somebody has that kind of knowledge, he won't tell you. But you could try buying and selling Junk on ebay.

What often works fine is buying special offers from stores and selling them online for original price.

>>80260

This. I work at an anime convention, and we have a small-time artists section. Some of the plushies/commissions can fetch a surprising amount of cash.

40 pounds of pussy and ass.

>>80613
I've got 200 pounds of bear and a horse.
Is that close enough?

>>80634

that would be less than much one bear or horse, so probably not

You could become a YouTube partner. Some make a couple of hundred bucks a month off the ad revenue.

>>73908
Go to Lowes or home Depot
Buy 100+ feet of Cat5 cable
Buy Ethernet cable ends
Sell 100+ feet of ethernet for 3x the price

>>80661
too bad complete 100ft cables are sold for $1 with $3 shipping from china...

bumpo

Try getting a job that has very little to no supervision, such as taking pictures of houses for a real estate management company, and hire some one else to do your work for less than they management company is paying you. That person you hired reports to you with the pictures and you pay them a chunk on the money you just made of of their work.

ALMOST JUST ABOUT KINDA FOOL PROOF.

>>80051
>implying mickey mouse is under Assumed copyright, or any actual known creation for that matter.

>>73982
can you better explain affiliate sales?
im not op but am just starting out with affiliate marketing and really really need resources and training atm.
any advice?

>>73908
Go to ioffer.com
buy some chinese knockoff shit like designer sunglasses
sell it on ebay
Sell it cheap and most people wont care if its fake or not.

>>80260
>>80260
this is a good idea.
I have seen MLP plushies that were mediocre at best sell for $1k+ on ebay

>>79955
thx to this guy quoting me from another thread, i decided to make a how-to internet market thread:

>>80841

>>81730

affiliate sales is basically when you sign up as an affiliate for a product, where they provide you a specific link with your affiliate ID in it. when someone clicks that link a cookie is embedded in their computer (ranging from permanent to 30 day experation) and if they purchase the product, you get paid x (whatever they are offering)

clickbank.com is a great place for beginners, LOTS of digital products (mostly ebooks and website subscriptions) to get your feet wet with. after that you can start looking into more options. Places like gamestop, ebay, etc have affiliate sales options but normally want proof that you know what your doing before theyll let you in (website etc)

not really too much guidance to tell you. try reading the thread i created for some ideas on how/what to write.

>>81747
the problem with that is theres a billion people already doing it, including the chinese wholesellers themselves, which leaves little to no profit on 99.9% of those items.

yes, it IS possible to find profitable product, no, it is not easy. I've tried myself and it takes -hours- and -days- of research to find just ONE product with a few dollars of profit. especially after ebay and paypal and shipping fees.

also on that note, i would not recommend anyone even consider TOUCHING bootleg stuff. you can get in a WORLD of shit if you dont do everything perfect and wind up getting caught.

>>81780

But how do you optimally locate clients to purchase from the specific links? It seems like you're throwing shit into a pond and hoping the fish eat it.