/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Weave Tutorials:
cgmaille.com/tutorials.shtml
www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/
www.theringlord.org/forum/index.php?/topic/10298-basic-beginners-help/page__pid__77910#entry7
7910

Garment Tutorials/Patterns/etc:
www.bladeturner.com/pattern/hauberk/hauberk.html
www.arador.com/construction/hauberk6.gif
www.chainmail.com/chainmall/patterns/coif/coif.html
www.chainmail.com/chainmall/cteach2.htm#KNITTING_The_Basics

This goes through the making of rings to in-depth pictures of weaving 4in1:
www.noiregarde.org/chainmaille.pdf

Metal types, Wire sizes:
www.chainmailbasket.com/making_maille.php

Making and weaving rings to making a garment:
homepage.ntlworld.com/trevor.barker/farisles/guilds/armour/mail.htm

Some inspiration:
www.thomasriley.info/chainmail/

Scalemail:
theringlord.com/images/products/scales/scaletutorial.jpg
docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx0aGVoYXBweWJhcmJhcmlhb
mhvcmRlbGFuZHN8Z3g6MjA5MTE5NzA0OGI0OWNkMA&pli=1

Link to old thread: http://archive.installgentoo.net/cgi-board.pl/diy/thread/67367

Also, just putting this out there, OP fucking loves mailling on the bias.

I was waiting to let you start the new thread~

What's the best way to cut coils for rings?
I'm using 14ga galvanized steel, and the dremel takes too much material out [and mine is insane, randomly spinning up and down].

>>76246

Using cutters will work and it wont remove any material. It doesn't leave a flat end though so if you are just butting the rings together it will either look crappy or require a second step to finish (with a file or whatever). If you plan on welding or riveting its probably not a big deal.

>>76311
I'm just butting the rings.
I guess I'll try different saws until I find one that doesn't take 3 years to cut one ring, and leaves a tiny gap.

I'm really liking the saw cut rings from TRL.
Those things are so sexy.

The only picture I have of my sexy saw cut rings is on my camera somewhere else, so have a picture of my mentors work.

saw cut rings are sexy.
I've only ordered rings thus far, and want to wait to build a rig or have a friend build a rig before I start cutting.

I find it fascinating, but is there any practical application to learning to knit chainmail?
For instance, if you knit a chainmail thing for your undercoat, would it serve as a bulletproof vest? Would it stop a modern knife from penetrating your skin?

Just seems like making clothing out of steel would offer little protection, be heavy and a danger if you got near a metal detector.

>>76357
With strong enough metal it might stop a knife. Bullet, no fucking way.

And by the way there are actually practical applications for chainmail. Knife handling gloves come to mind. I saw a woman at a sandwich shop wearing chainmail gloves, for example.

>>76357
Shark armor that divers wear when they swim with sharks is basically chain mail.

I'd bet chain mail would be good protection from zombies.

Decoration. I'm planning on making aluminum chain mail curtains from a suggestion in another thread on /diy/.

>>76354
Waiting to get a rig set up is a good idea, I'm making do with a small [~2" wide] bench vise, and a red hacksaw from home depot.
Need more blade before I can cut more rings though.
My brother cut up a stainless steel spring and killed the last blade I had.

>>76354
>>76354
>>76354
THIS. HOW TO?

What do you guys think of this guy's mail?
I have issues with it, it's 14ga, but there's no way it would protect you from anything smaller than a jumbo sharpie.
Also, I think it's kind of ugly with those giant holes.

I appreciate the effort it took, but still. D;

>>76812
http://www.davidchain.com/puno_tut1.htm

>>76812
>>76826
Also, I used saw cut anodized aluminum in 16g 1/4"

>>76826
>>76832
Thank you sir.

So guys, what's the plausibility of incorporating a design into scale armor using individual scales?

>>76825
Yes, I think his rings are too big.
Also, should turn that pattern 90 degrees. As he used it, the rings separate from each other, leaving the visible holes. Turned 90 degrees, they won't. (would require more links thou)

>>76846
Here is a pattern template.
I will look for some inlay pictures, I don't have any saved.

>>76846
>>76862
small scales

>>76846

Just something I threw together to show how it can be hard to get an image to work out. ie. the horizontal lines.

I ordered 4 backs of 14ga 7/16'' ID Bright aluminum rings. Off the top of my head they were 500 rings to a bag. My desk is in my closet and I have book shelves above my desk and plan on making a chain mail "skirt" to hide the shelves. The area I'm covering would be about a 6 foot by 1.5 foot rectangle. Going with the european 4-1 weave should 2000 rings be enough?

I guess I'll see but just curious. Have no problem ordering more. Hell I'm even considering putting a slightly longer skirt of different color and ring size behind it for a cool layered look.

>>76887
>>76875
These are giving me a bit of hope. I'm trying to get the Hyrulean crest onto a shirt

>>76900
not scale, but still wicked.
Try image searching on different chain mail sites?
I already went through all the inlays on TRL gallery.

>>76895
I don't know how much you need, but that doesn't seem enough.
Make a 1.5 foot wide patch as long as you can(supplies wise), then measure it and calculate how many more bags you need?

>>76907
What are these made from? Brass?
Are they much more expensive than ordinary rings?

>>76907
>>76912
"euro 4-1 galvy with brass hylian crest inlay, 14g."

This is all that is said about it.

This inlay is so bitchen.
Gonna make it into a banner.

more zelda

mentors work.

>>77056
by the by, that isn't him wearing it, that's a friend.

bishop's mantle

Necklace I made a few years ago, wear it every day. 21ga stainless steel, don't remember the ring inner diameter. Made the rings myself as well.

Close up

Do you make the links yourself or is there a place to buy them? Only asking because I've been practicing doing this using paper clips (cut em into smaller strands, bend em into circular links, hooking em up) and would love to know where to get some pre made ones.

>>77230
US/Canada - theringlord.com seems the best one.
UK: try beadsisters.co.uk

Also check out this page: www.mailleartisans.org/lynx/

>>77256
Thank you very much

Made an etsy shop... hmmm...
http://www.etsy.com/shop/StarmailleCreations
Off to bed.

I used to weave long ago...
I made a belt, a "gauntlet" for a motorcycle glove, keychains, bracelets, etc.
>pic related

Wound and cut every link here myself.

Belt is stainless steel, each link done with bolt cutters. What a nightmare.

Alrighty~
Ordered another 3200 Galvanized Steel rings to finish my doublings [I'm not equipped to coil and cut rings right now], and some aluminum rings to make a bracelet for my friend.

"I am the bone of my mail"
"Steel-wire is my body, and zinc is my blood"
"I have created over a thousand rings"
"Unknown to Arthritis, nor known to Rheumatism"
"Have withstood pain to cut many coils"
"Yet those hands will never use a proper mandrel"
"So, as I pray..."
"UNLIMITED CHAINWORKS!"

>>77148
Do want.

What does it look like from underneath I wonder?

>>78890
Scalemail looks kinda weird on the other side.

>>77148
Around how much would it cost to make one of these? (not counting tools but in scales and rings)

>>78902
That one linked has able 500 scales.
There are twice as many rings as there are scales(to put them together).
Add however many rings you want above it.
probably atleast 1000 rings and 500 scales.

>>76357
Well fitted mail is not heavy at all, with the weight spread evenly across your entire body it's not cumbersome at all.

Mail has no chance of being bullet-proof. In fact getting shot through a mail vest will only make matters worse as broken rings will enter into your body alongside the bullet.

Of course mail vests are stab-proof. They used to stop swords for crying out loud. The mail will have to be well made, however with welded/riveted rings.

>>79020
The entire outfit I am wearing in this picture weights over 100lbs, uggh. Poor hauberk don't even got arms yet.

>>79020
> Of course mail vests are stab-proof.
> Stab-proof

> ice pick

now get the fuck out until you learn how armor works

>>79038
you faggot piece of shit
i bet you go to larps bullshit as well

mfw chainmail

chainmail?

>>79050
What's wrong with LARPs?
Have you ever tried one?
I sense mad.

>>79050
Awww, Now I guess I'll have to be awake all night crying.

>>79076
Dear Sir, what are your ring stats?

To the LARP haters:
You're just jealous you can't get intimate with chainmail on.
True fact.

>>76357
I saw this one episodes on Dragon's Den (UK) and there's this woman who pitched what looked like chainmail sheet that covers poultry. Basically, you cover a chicken or something similar and stuff it in the oven and somehow it cooks better than having it bare. I think that claim needs to be confirmed though.

>>79092
Did some lurkan and found it lol
http://www.roastcosy.co.uk/

>>79086
8mm ID: 5/16 inch
2mm wire Ø: wire-gauge 12
Galvanized steel

>>76027
Anybody have the layout for this, as well as tip for sizing?

>>79143
Just add more rows before the band for sizing.

>>79185
Sorry, was working on homework(college slave).
The black, except for in the bottom row, the band, is all rubber. The gradient of color was just to show a friend what colors I was going to do.

The red is the 45 degree seam.

>>79257
Ohh.
So that would be half of a bra?
Or am I being daft?

>>79277
I think I'm getting it more the more I look at your OP image.

The tops of the triangles in your diagram arrach to the big steel rings by the girl's ribcage, and the band on the bottom is actually the bit that goes on top?
So the pattern is effectively upside down?

>>79277
Yeah, it's just one cup.
This is how I made it.
made is using IGP.
Irregular grid printer?
For making maille.

>>79281
Sorry, I should have explained that.
It works easier/looks better upside down.
People who have made these also say that the pattern can work either way, too.

>>79286
>>79285
I'd never head of IGP before now, very neat.

Really glad you posted these and explained it, Now that I can into maille a have a few friends who want bras.
And I was baffled as to how I should make them.
Going to need to add a good amount of rings for one or two of them though. ;D

>>79293
Yeah, yer just gonna have to add up the rows and see how many roughly you will need.
Good luck!

Mr. Star sent me a message asking what size of rings I'd want for Christmas.
So, I am getting 20g 5/32" of some fine metal!
I'm excite to find out what it is and play with them!
We have been talking about brass and bronze over the past few weeks, so it may be some of those, but it could also be a big surprise!
Yay!

So has anybody made a top out of scales? I was wanting to make a bellydancer top for one of my friends and want to know the best way to go about it.

bumping with pictures for you.
Always the TRL gallery.

more

>>80607
>>80605
>>80603
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite namefags, star.

>>80696
Thanks bro.

Star mentioning the TRL gallery made me want to flip through it, and there is some really neat stuff on there.

pic related.

When you people buy scales how is the finish on them? are they rough on the edges? Ive had scales lazer cut in brass, then popped them off the sheet/ then pressed them. I then had to hand polish each scale on a buffing wheel so soften the edges. Didnt have a tumbler to leave them in over night.

>>77191
>>77195

Can someone tell me the name of this pattern?
Or even better, post a link to a tutourial?

>>80727
Me again. Top Tip-You can buy acids to drop them in too colour them. hints of purple,brown,green whatever.

>>80729
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/invertedround.shtml

Check out all the tutorials here.

>>80731
>>80727
You crazy fucker.
I've only bought them from TRL, but really want to make some based off of the Dwarven armor from The Hobbit, and my friend has some sheet metal he wants to pop some out of.

>>80737
Did you see the armour in Game of thrones, that's the stuff I'm talking about. there was a big team of us.

>>80739
I haven't seen any of that show.
But, you worked on it? That's cool!

>>80742
Its some of the nicest stuff ive had the oppertunity to make, but as you probally understand it's a long hard slug to get it done, we didnt have much time

>>80729
>>80733

I guess its the Turkish Orbital?

http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/turkishorb.shtml

>>81362
Yeah I was thinking that, but I was in class, and thus not paying attention to what link I copypasta'd.
Sorry man.
I had the inverted round open to see what I was doing wrong somewhere, but I managed to make Turkish round FROM a inverted round tutorial...
Don't ask.
Hands to weird thing when you aren't paying attention...

I still think it's really cool that a pro chainmailler has come to my thread ♥

>>81510
Ha! sounds weird been called a pro. I suppose I am. There's a lot of people I work with who are way better than me but they do it all the time. I do other stuff too like make moulds/weapons and build film sets.

>>81613
May I ask how you got the job of creating some armor for the show?
Was there an ad you responded to, or did you have a miniature business and got contacted?
Something else entirely?

>>81649
I freelance. I get all my work from companies who are really well established in the film industry. When they get a film I get a call to go work with them. I probaly only work for about four of five companies and have done for years. Each company I work for does a different job. Ones a mould making company then there's various model/prop making places as well as costume and armoury. I have quite a wide background.

Bumping from page ten, Also, a question.
I ordered some bright aluminum rings from TRL to make my friend a bracelet, is there going to be an issue with making a bracelet from aluminum?
I don't really want to make her a bracelet that'll rip her little arm off~
>>81684
That's pretty bitchin', sound like a good spot to be in.

Bumping from 12 this time.
Just saving the thread.
Rings have shipped, so Im excited about that.
If the thread is dead by the time I get them I'll make a new one.

>>82754
My laptop is dead and has to be sent in for service, as well as it being finals week. Sorry!

Aluminum is fine for bracelets, don't gotta worry about the arm, more about the bracelet breaking.

But, something really awesome happened last night. A guy who owns a metalwork shop and partners with a blacksmith gave me his card and asked me if I wanted to intern...
FUCK YEAH!

>>84268
By rip her arm off, I meant I was hoping aluminum would be fine, since steel is pretty heavy at 14ga [for a girls bracelet]

I don't know if I'm jealous of you or not for the internship thing. >>

Beginner here. I am currently making Cthulhu tie. And I was hoping to get some tips from you. I am not quite sure which weave to use for Cthulhu. For the rest I am going with simple Europian 4-1. I want for tentacles to swirl around.

>>84472
Maybe you could do a spiral weave inside the 4in1?
If it was the one in your picture, the tentable parts would just be replaced with spiral weave, if that would work.

http://artofchainmail.com/patterns/miscellaneous/1in4spiral.html

>>84422
I would suggest anodized aluminum because it is sexy.
And I a beyond excited for this and hope it works out...

Well, I want the whole head to stand out and this spiral weave does not suite me. I was thinking of placing thicker wire through tentacles to make them swirl. Hm?

>>84496
I asked her if she preferred raw or polished aluminum, she chose polished, so I'm doing that.
Next time I make her something there will be color choices [mostly because I didn't think about it this time].
>>84502
Like, using a thicker gauge ring for the Cthulhu part?
I'm not really sure, I'm really new at this.

>>84502
So you mean stand out as in 3D? Or stand out as in being a different weave from the rest of the piece? You'll have to be careful either way to not mess up the outer lines.
Either way you've given me an idea, be back when i see how it works.

Ok, tried 3d tentacles on the tie. Didn't bother to remove the flat color, i would if i left it this way. I'm not a big fan of this, what you guys think?

Hm.
It definitely makes them stand out more, are they loose?
If they aren't maybe making them loose could be neat?

Oh yeah those are loose. Its just pieces of hp 4 in 1 attached into the euro 4 in 1 at the end.

>> 84667
To stand out using different weave. Maybe dragonscale? Tie wouldn't end in triangle, loose ends would take its place.

do we get to see the Cthulhu with loose tentacles?
I would really like to see it :D
(;,,;)

I plan on running with that dragonscale and loose tentacles idea eventually, but i have other projects to make first. Personally i'm more interested in what >>84472 makes.

Hey guys, recently started reading up on chainmail and ordered 16 ga anodized aluminum from the ring lord and scale mail sampler- I plan on making a byzantine bracelet for a friend, and I wanted to use multiple colors- is there any guide for which rings will make certain color patterns? Kind of a vague question I know..

>>86235
What size ring did you get?
AA is pretty good and not too hard to handle.
It would be cool if you would take a picture of what came in the rings sampler!

http://fav.me/dw8lxy
Hope this helps you see which rings do what, and you can then decide which rings need to be which colors.
Good luck!

>>86374

I got 18ga 5/32'' ID - Saw Cut. Is that a good size for bracelets?

>>86707
http://mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavelist.php?ar_type=mid&operation=eq&first_digit=3&se
cond_digit=3&single=on&mode=AR
This is a collection of weaves for that ring size.

https://www.theringlord.com/AspectRatio.pdf
I used this chart to find the aspect ratio and then put is (3.3) into the search above.

Have fun!

>>86715

Thanks.
Would it still be okay to try a byzantine weave with that size?

>>86721
I haven't tried out this size myself, but it should work for byze since it works for a couple byze variants.

So has anyone here ever taken thier stuff to a craft fair or similar event? There's a possibility I can get into a craft fair close to xmas and was wondering how many pieces should I have ready by then?
I have about 5 at the moment but just got a delivery of rings - so I'm thinking around 20-30 pieces?
Any advice would be welcome

>>88791
I think the best advice I have is to have multiple colors of each weave available.
Also, mixing a color with like silver and black.
Bring supplies to do custom items while you are there.
Buy a stand for bracelets, I've seen some at Michael's.
Be up for bartering.
Good luck!

>>77309
Let's say I wanna make a belt, used as a real belt and not as a decoration, and I want it "dense" like the one in this post, what gauge of wire should I use, and also what inner diameter?
Thanks a bunch

>>84815
Awesome

I got my rings in the mail yesterday, OMGSOHAPPY.
Though I need to add some sort of padding to my pliers, since my hands are just bones draped in skin. :c

This is one of my first times checking out /diy/, and I'm happily surprised to find a chain mail thread! I only just started playing around with mail a few weeks ago (ordered up a bunch of bright aluminum rings of various sizes from The Ring Lord) and am having tons of fun learning. It's amazing to see what some of you have made. I'll probably be back here with questions.

>>89569
That's pretty much what happened for me too.
I was looking into maille, and decided to see if diy had any threads, and it did. :D

Dang, what kind of rings should I use for 6in1?
I've got 14ga 5/16" aluminum rings and I'm having issues after not too long.
((((
...))
(((((
...)))
(((((

ignore the dots.
I can't get the third ring in the 'middle' section up to to fit in, at all.


Good news, I made myself a bracelet, 6in1, 14ga aluminum, 16ga rubber, both 5/16"id.
Took me ~3 hours?

Okay, I got the section to fit, but still, is there a preferred AR for 6in1?
Because the 5/15id/ 14g rings I use aparrently have an AR of ~3.9.
I know it works well for 4in1, nice and tight, almost too tight for 6in1 though.
Good?
bad?

>>90961
>>90928
I found the same problem with 6in1, there's like one end you can't work on unless you have arms of steel, and the other that is hard, but manageable.
6in1 is much more dense than 4in1.
5/16' is supposedly pretty good in 6in1 (friend wants me to make a hauberk of it... Yikes!) but it's probably that you used 14g and the rings are too thick to manage without driving you nuts.
I've got 16g 1/4" and one of my mentors says it's good for 6in1.

If I get more 16g 5/16' rings, I will test out how they work with 6in1, right now the ones that I do have are in a panel to test for a hauberk in 4in1 and it is too loose.

Taking the plunge and make a hauberk this winter break.

I think I need "hauberk making for dummies"...

I've estimated(using TRLs hauberk calculator) for about 8000+ rings.
This is in 14g 3/8", which seems to be the best size for hauberks.

Stainless steel will cost $125
Galvy $82
Mild $77

Since this IS my first hauberk, I will go for the middle ground and pic galvanized steel.

This will be MUCH cheaper if I can convince one of my friends to make rings for me since they already have mandrels, snips, etc...
One has already offered to wrap some for me when I go out to visit probably in the next few months, but I can't wait that long...
It was also an offer for some bright aluminum to make a battle dress, cause I sure as hell aint making one out of steel.
FUCK YEAH BATTLE DRESS~!
(think queen from Narnia, except I will probably make it like a horseman's hauberk and have the split up the legs...)

Just an update for whats happening.
Also, here's a picture of the 16g 5/16" I was playing with for the hauberk shape to figure out what sort of neckline I might do.

>>91356
>>91428
Yeah, stupid thick rings that look positively brilliant for 4in1, but hardly work at all for 6in1. :c
Good luck on the hauberk, I'm too lazy/ pretend busy to make one myself.

And with that picture you posted I can definitely see how 16ga would work well for 6in1.

Also, made a friend a Half persian 3in1 bracelet today, neat weave.
I'm going to try HP 4in1 in a minute.

So I just went to the ringlord and I want to get started with this first using stuff like bracelets and other jewelry to play with. So I was looking at getting one of the anodized aluminum jewelry kits to start with.

Is this a good idea? Also what gauge would y'all recommend?

>>91765
Getting a jewelry kit isn't the best idea because if you happen to not like the size after working in it for a few weaves, you are out of luck and are out a lot of money.
Get individual bags, try out different metals and sizes, and buy rings that work for different weaves.

I can't really suggest individual rings, because you might not like what I do, but if you are set on anodized aluminum, I fancy it in 14g or 16g 1/4".
These sizes work well for 4in1, box chain, byzantine, the 16g in spiral and double spiral, and both in half persian 3in1.
This size is versitile.

But, I would suggest looking up (say on the TRL gallery) items you may want to make, and buying rings and metals that work for those weaves.

There's also jewelry kits that you can totally get cause they have multiple sizes, but I'm just worried you might buy a size you don't want to work in...

Good luck!

orry guys, I was going to post more last night, but I was getting in discusions about sexuality and purity...

My friend who has been giving me mailling advice said he'd wrap coils for me and ship them out here since I am so not handwrapping steel in 14g... and he has a rig set up. My other friend who is local, I hope I can get cutting advice from.

I'm so excited!
16g 5/16" 6in1 galvy hauberk here I come!
I'm a fucking lunatic, thinking this is a good idea.

>>92110
That makes some sense. I wanted to purchase aluminum jewelry kit first because I've got a massive amount of steel and copper wire just chillin' around, plus everything I'd need to wrap/cut it (well, with the exception of possibly something to serve as a mandrel but then wooden dowels can suffice for now and for cheap). Thinking about it, your probably right about the kits I was looking at because there's just not enough variety. Thanks for your input. Maybe I've ran across what can become a profitable hobby :)

>>92123
It's the best kind of bonkers though.
And your friend will love you to death once you're done.
And you feel like a total badass for finishing.

>>92548
Yeah!
This guy wants me to make a hauberk, will help me with how to make it, and is willing to wrap the coils, so its pretty much win.

That probably didn't make sense.
I am making a hauberk for myself with the coils made by someone else.

Oh~
It's a hauberk for you?
And all the materials are free?
That's crazy awesome, is it part of your apprenticeship thing?
Or was that someone else?

not >>89179 but similar interest, i want a functional belt. I assume stainless steel is a must, but best weave/AR?

>>92789
I would assume 15g 5/16 would work, since 14ga 5/16 doesn't and looks nice and tight as 4in1.

>>92795
what weave though?
I've kinda had my eye on dragonscale, but i dont really have a clue.

>>92855
I'm sure dragonscale would work, and it's gorgeouos, but I'd probably end up doing 6in1.

I found this tutorial at work today, it might help you decide.

http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=108602

Dragonscale and Euro 6in1 side by side.
After looking at it I'd probably try for dragonscale, much prettier for a belt.

sorry about not keeping up, but a quick post before bed...

May be a bit of a loaded question, but approximately how much wire would be needed to make a medium sized 4-in-1 shirt or short-sleeve hauberk? Is it more economical to order from TRL or just go to a home depot or something and buy a spool of wire?

This might be the only time I get to post this and say
>pic related

present for girlfriend

>>96585
nice and you share boobies with it?

>>96595
Is that a request or a strange rhetorical question

Hey everyone I'm working on a choker (pic related) and I was wondering. where do you usually shop for clasps?

>>97022
More of a "You let me have my cake AND eat it too?" kind of deal.

>>96585
it was more a: chainmail + boobies = win
btw for what i can see she looks very nice.

>>97221
>>97227

Alright, cool. That's the only chainmail pic I can find right now, don't know where the others went.

Have an ass, cropped to hell because /b/ doesn't know how not to ruin a good thing.

>cropped to hell because /b/ doesn't know how not to ruin a good thing.
> /b/ doesn't know not ruin
>/b/ ruin

OK peoples I need some help I have looked high and low for this to no avail I desperatly need a tutorial or diagram on how to make a Scale Mail Tail ... hard to say outloud I know but I cannot fin it anywhere . I have seen 3 videos of them but no diagram or tutorial and I cannot wrap my head around getting them into the cascading tube shape or closing the tail off at the end .. it eludes me ever so . so all in all im looking for someone with more scale experience to show or make a diagram of a cascading closed "tube" scale tail thank you in advance ^_^

tldr:Need tutorial on Scale Mail tail (cascading tubular free flowing tail)

Requesting any help with reading inlays they make my head hurt and I was wondering if there is a way to read them or Have them broke into smaller sections or "rows" just seems like I cannot follow one row to the next clearly.

Posted my torso a few times with my work in progress Japanese 12/1, so here's something a little less....heavy. Aluminum btw no clue what gauge.

1/3rdv of the way thhgrough my doublings~
Probably 900 rings in it right now?
I am happyyyy wittgh it.

anyone have any particularly interesting weaves for jewelryish stuff with 2 colors both at 3.5AR, same diameter?

Anyone ever thought of replacing a grill with chainmail?

I might get a truck with a grill similar to the pic, and I was wondering about building some chainmail around some support rods and bolting that in place. I hate the way these things look when they get all dented up from hitting rocks and birds, so chainmail would likely solve that issue.

There is about 3" between thee grill placement and the front of the radiator, so I don't think it'd be hard at all to make it tight enough to prevent a depression that deep.

Any suggestions on a semi-rigid and open pattern that looks decent on a flat vertical surface?

>>97937
>Anyone ever thought of replacing a grill with chainmail?

The idea sounds terrible

>>97940
U jellymad, bro.

Pic related.

It'd be a moot point once I got my kangaroo bar on anyway.

>>97943
Degrease it with a power washer

>>97948
Shouldn't be an issue with soldering/brazing/welding depending on what I use. It'd be a stupid thick and large ring to be easy to work and allow airflow.

>>97951
Cosmetics should be one of those priorities that should be frowned

>>97952
Its chainmail. Its never a priority. It'd probably take me 2 months to finish and another to install.

I got bored of weaving last winter, and I don't have a need for anything else made of chainmail other than mudflaps... which would also be an awesome aeromawd.

ITT: We talk about how we keep our virginity


LOL. I like that chainmail with the scales.

Just as a heads up to the fellow maillers in here with less experience, raw aluminum is not a very good choice for jewelry. Aluminum oxidizes very quickly and will leave a black residue on skin if not kept meticulously clean and polished. Maintenance will definitely become a pain in the ass if you want to keep raw aluminum looking good. When making jewelry from aluminum, anodized is the way to go. It's the best (and pretty much only) way to ensure the longevity of piece while keeping it maintenance free.

>>98088
Op has disproved your statement, I am not a virgin.

>>98380
Me as well, and i've lurked since the first thread... maybe post some pics later of a boring 2-color byz necklace I'm making my mom for christmas.

>>97937
Bumping for pattern suggestions. The grill and the mudflaps.

>>99047
For the mudflaps, you'd probably just make a pair [or several] in the shape of mudflaps.
Just get a pair that fits your truck and 'copy' it with the maille, maybe add a wire or something for shape?

and the grill, just make two sheets that would fill the holes and attatch them with rivets or something?

Why do you need a kangaroo bar?
I thought you were in the US?

>>99657
We have deer in the US. We also have armadillo, hawks, foxes, coyotes, dogs, raccoons, and possoms, most of which are 25lbs or more. A kangaroo bar is a sound investment.

For the mudflaps, I need relatively small openings in the mail, due to DOT regulations. Is there anything feasibly tighter than a 6in1?

>>100151
I figured your truck would just destroy a deer, didn't think about all the other animals.
Kangaroo bars look awesome too.

Maybe dragonscale, or a sheet of Half persian?
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials.shtml
>Wall of tutorials
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/dragonscale.shtml
>Dragonscale
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/hpsheet6.shtml
>Half persian sheet
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/i4-1.shtml
>Interwoven 4in1

>>76246

router with a thin blade, bock of wood with a hole drilled out(same OD as your coil), cut notch into the wood, put coil in the wood run through the router.

now you have evenly cut rings, with little loss of material, also very quick.

page revival.

>>96585
Repost pls... or at least e-mail me this, i'm curious.

>>100274
Noice.

The dragonscale looks really good with the 2-tone they used for clarity.

Helm chain and inverted round look like something the DOT would have a problem bitching about for the mudflaps. I'll likely go with a series of chains about the width, and then go back and join them however as often is needed to convey "integrity".

>>100729
one thing you should probably take into consideration is that if you plan on using it as a mudflap, you'll probably need to rivet the links.

>>101145
Perhaps. When I get around to getting some rings I'll lay up a few patches in front of a rubber mudflap and see how they hold up.

I like that they can be repaired, as when a rubber mudflap gets torn off, there isn't really a realistic way of getting it to bolt back on for more than a few miles before it tears again

>>101145

welding the rings is good too if you don't need to (want to) be historical correct and it's way faster.

Bumping.

Is dragonscale supposed to be finger breakingly hard?
I'm using steel16ga 5/16'' and bronze 18ga 3/16''.

Hey, I just started weaving chainmail a few days ago and came up with an idea. Forgive me if this has already been done but what if you used a soft steel when building the chainmail and then once compete you temper it. thoughts?

I just don't understand why you would make your own chainmail. Just as an example if you look on
http://theringlord.com/cart/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=90&cat=Chainmail+Armor+Kits
a kit for a Hauberk Costume Grade - Bright Aluminum is US$155.40
But at http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/miscellaneous/9080/
A premade chainmail shirt is just $99.99. Not only is it cheaper and already assembled but it uses 12 pounds of aluminum over 10 pounds. Am I missing something or are you guys just insane?

>>103428
Pre-made Thinkgeek Chainmails are shit.

>>103435
perhaps you could elaborate?
Also the list goes on, here's another premade Shirt for 117$
http://www.realarmorofgod.com/store/html/Products/Armor/Chainmail/Chainmail-Shirt-115.html

>>103448

Due to mass-production the quality is usually lacking, and when it comes to chain mails, there is a huge difference between a one-size-fits-all mail and a mail specifically made for you in comfort and dexterity

>>103453
Alright, you've sold me on making your own chainmail. If nothing else I guess it's pretty cool to made it yourself.

>>103146
Annealing and hardening properly takes literally days of heating and cooling. The energy expenditure is ridiculous if you aren't smithing all day every day, and i'd be worried about links warping and opening under that much heat stress.

Also, I'm not even sure that grades of steel that take well to tempering are used in chain mail.

Sorry guys, just a quick post, might get back online soon! Merry Christmas!
Santa brought me some 14g fence wire! Gotta get some mandrels and snips.

This is a friend of mine, he does this shit constantly.

What do you think of his work OP

On yahoo news recently

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Jersey-Fouls-Extra-Incredible-chain-mail-San-Jo?urn
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>>103435
I know this firsthand.
My dad got me the smaller butted hauberk for christmas, which is awesome, but after making my own chainmaile I'm noticing so many issues.
The sleeves' weave is the wrong direction, the rings grab at everything like mad, and I can open and close the rings with my fingers.
Really neat to have a hauberk though, it'll go with my doublings well.

should I go mild steel or galvanized steel, they are about the same price. How useful is the galvanized coating? I just kinda like the idea that I could weld it in the future if I stick with mild.

>>103481

gay

>>103714
Mild steel rusts like a mofo. Galvy smells like wet dog. Pick your evil.
I don't have experience with welding, but go with your gut.
Good luck!

So I tried making a belt, maybe a year ago, using european 6 in 1 and I didn't like how it flopped down so much. (pic related)

Anyway, I've been thinking of trying another with a different weave.
Are there any weaves that will bend around my waist, but not downward?
I was thinking maybe a tightly woven Japanese 6-1 or 12-2...

>>105375
Why not just double the chain back on itself at the end with some hooks in the top row? It can't flop around if its hanging on taught chain.

Conversely, just add a second buckle at the end of the belt. Its probably easier than convincing non-fixed rings to be fixed.

>>105382
Fair enough.

Also, I had no fucking clue how to attach the buckle, so I just sort of put rings together.
Anyone know a better way of doing this?