/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>705059
I heard that coconut milk can be used as saline, not sure how true that is though.

Tools: A cutting tool like a razor blade, exacto-knife or sharp scissors, glue and a permanent marker.

Materials: One 2-liter soda bottle, one roll of 1″ wide rubberized foam insulation strip, and one N95 particulate mask.

Step 1. Use the permanent marker to draw out a U-shaped area just big enough to fit your face. You want the mask to fit snug against your face so start small and work your way up if you have to.

Step 2. Cut away the bottom of the bottle just above the start of the ridged footer area. Then carefully cut along the lines of the template to remove the U-shaped section from the bottle. Once you have the basic shape defined, hold the bottle up to your face to make sure it fits well. Make any necessary adjustments for an optimal fit. Again, you want it to be tight, but not uncomfortable.

Step 3. Using a single length of insulation, fold it over the edges of the bottle a little at a time until you work your way back to the beginning. Over-lap the insulation by at least 1/2″ to get a complete and secure seal. Make a circle of insulation inside the bottle roughly 2″ up from the spout. This will serve as a resting place for the N95 mask.

Step 4. Carefully remove the 2 elastic bands and metal bridge from the N95 mask. Set the elastic bands aside for later use, feel free to discard the metal bridge. Carefully remove the majority of the edging from the mask, leaving just enough to keep the edges sealed. Push the mask down into the neck of the bottle, angling the filter outwards and down towards the spout.

Step 5. Make 4 small holes in the sides of the mask, 2 near the top and 2 near the bottom. Feed the ends of the elastic bands through the body of the Soda Bottle Gas Mask and tie them off so they can be pulled back through. Seal the holes with a bit of glue to prevent leaks in the mask.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/health/ebola-fatu-family/

It can be exhausting nursing a child through a nasty bout with the flu, so imagine how 22-year-old Fatu Kekula felt nursing her entire family through Ebola.

Her father. Her mother. Her sister. Her cousin. Fatu took care of them all, single-handedly feeding them, cleaning them and giving them medications.

And she did so with remarkable success. Three out of her four patients survived. That's a 25% death rate -- considerably better than the estimated Ebola death rate of 70%.

Fatu stayed healthy, which is noteworthy considering that more than 300 health care workers have become infected with Ebola, and she didn't even have personal protection equipment -- those white space suits and goggles used in Ebola treatment units.

Every day, several times a day for about two weeks, Fatu put trash bags over her socks and tied them in a knot over her calves. Then she put on a pair of rubber boots and then another set of trash bags over the boots.

She wrapped her hair in a pair of stockings and over that a trash bag. Next she donned a raincoat and four pairs of gloves on each hand, followed by a mask.

It was an arduous and time-consuming process, but Fatu was religious about it, never cutting corners.
UNICEF Spokeswoman Sarah Crowe said Fatu is amazing.

>>705059
>Live in Dallas.
>Never get on Facebook, decide to see what everyone is saying.
>omg zombie disease is here get your walking dead weapons ready lol #nerd
>I wuz goin 2 werk den I saw viruz and I called n n sed ecola and den didnt go fuk da govment
>AMERICA FALSE FLAG EBOLA OUTBREAK IN TEXAS.
Fucking idiots.

>>705059
>balancing electrolytes
Oral Rehydration Therapy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy

- 30 ml sugar : 2.5 ml salt : 1 litre fluid
- 6 teaspoons sugar : 0.5 teaspoon salt : 1 quart fluid (approx. 1 litre)

This will help keep you alive if you get Cholera or Dysentery... the diseases you are most likely to get after a big natural disaster in refugee land.

Also, if you don't have "Where there is no doctor/Dentist", go download them now legally and free from the Hessian foundation.

>>705060
Sounds like a good way to get dead

>>705084
>personal protective equipment
A well prepared home chemist can keep herself in Bleach (for water purification and disinfection) using Electrolysis.

Conduct electrolysis of salt water using a number of electrodes at 4.5-5 volts. The solution must be kept below 40C/104F or you get a different and undesirable product, Sodium Chlorate.

The "strength" of the Bleach (sodium hypochlorite) solution can be determined by titration. This requires Potassium Iodide, Starch, and Sodium Thiosulfate.

The poorly equipped chemist is advised to stockpile Sodium Hypochlorite or Calcium Hypochlorite pool shock instead.

8 drops of 6% bleach solution will purify 1 gallon of clear water, given 30 minutes to act.

>>705059
>maintaining oxygen status
I know of four /diy/ methods for producing oxygen.
The first is reaction of Hydrogen Peroxide with one of many chemicals to free its oxygen. This seems grossly unreasonable for an apocolypse as H2O2 is a PITA to /diy.

The second is electrolysis of water in a divided cell and is very /diyable.

The third is distillation of air, and is surprisingly diy-able. http://www.instructables.com/id/Homemade-liquid-nitrogen-generator/

The fourth is the technology used in home oxygen concentrators. A machine uses a pair of zeolite cylinders. In use, one of the cylinders is pressurized to 2-3 atmospheres. At this pressure, the zeolite readily adsorbs nitrogen from the air. After a time the enhanced air is purged into a holding vessel and administered to the patient, usually with a nasal cannula. To regenerate the zeolite, ambient air is introduced and allowed to flow through the cylinder. By alternating two cylinders between production and regeneration, a continuous flow of gas can be created.

>>705060
That is wrong. Coconut milk can be used as blood plasma if it's fresh. You won't bleed out.

>>705061
Why not just spend a few bucks and get a full face respirator? Sure, it's not homebuilt but it frees up time for other efforts like a decon shower.

>>705059
>personal protective equipment
Pic Related. Slow sand water filter.

Also, google and memorize Solarization for water purification.

.. and it's Hesperian, not Hessian foundation. Memory failure.

Almost done, 2 more.

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>>705091
> still namfagging
You must have loved it when you got your cock stroked by the "I love ellie" anon the other week, eh? Didn't learn the lesson based on what happened next?

>>705059
Post-Apocolyptic Opiate Painkillers.

Poppy seeds are a common spice in the US. These seeds, if planted, (Felony) will grow into Papaver somniferum (Illegal), the plant that Opium (Illegal) and Heroine (Illegal) are made from. These are made by cutting the immature seed pods and gathering the dried sap that weeps from the wound.(Federal pound you in the ass prison illegal.) Another method of administration is to make a tea of the dried flower and seed pod. (both possession and use are illegal)

These are addictive and desperate addicts are extraordinarily dangerous, even in good times. These should only be used in grave emergencies, or as palliative care of those preparing to die.

It is also possible for the well equipped chemist to produce morphine from this source material.
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/morphextr.html

It goes without saying that this is illegal as well.

The agriculturally ambitious might be interested to know that there are seed available commercially for a double-petaled black Papaver S. that looks nothing like the normal P.S., but still contains opiods. (Illegal)

>>705059
>Ebola specifically:
Ebola is believed to be transmitted through direct contact with infected bodily fluids. Airborne transmission has not been proven or disproven. It is believed, but not proven, that bats may be carrier animals. The incubation period is from 2 to 21 days. The first symptom is usually headache, followed by back and joint pain, muscle cramps, disorientation\depression, loss of appetite, uncontrollable bleeding, bloody vomit, bloody diarrhea, and death.

The disorientation bit is particularly disturbing. A person may be fully aware they are dying of the disease and possibly infecting others, yet not care.

In crude conditions 10% survival rates are not uncommon. With excellent medical care this can exceed 60%.

The case in Dallas is not the first time that Ebola has touched the US Mainland. There were an unknown number of cases of ebola in a monkey quarantine facility in Reston Virginia in the late 80s. That strain, despite several opportunities to make the human jump, appeared to only effect Monkeys. (We were lucky.) Richard Preston wrote "The Hot Zone" about this and it is absolutely worth reading. Mr. Preston does a fine job of making the book read with all the suspense of a Michael Crichton novel.

>>705097
Anon thinks he is anonymous on the Internet. How quaint.

>>705107
Found the book...
Clinical Management of Patients with Viral Hemorrhagic Fever
http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/clinical-management-patients/en/

>>705107
> Anon thinks he is anonymous on the Internet. How quaint.
> Implying that is why you get trolled.

Ellie doesn't know how to anonymous image board, how retarded. Is there an actual reason you namefag or is it simply a female ego thing as others have alluded to? Because your identity should have fuck all to do with your info, as your info should have fuck all to do with your identity. Unless you're actually in it for the praise, in which case, there are millions of other forums out there with users willing to hang on your every word! Why don't you go find one?

>>705115
>Getting this upset over namefags

>>705117
meh I don't really like namefags either

>>705064
Ebola could actually be a very serious concern for the US.

It's not going to be the end of the world or any nonsense like that, but things could get very bad.

I really hope I'm wrong.

>>705084
This stuff is very helpful. It got me through a bad period of chronic diarrhea thanks to ulcerative colitis. It is more effective than an IV of saline.

>>705107
> Anonymity
It's not about that at all. Radiofag used to namefag when he started a radio general, or was answering questions related to radiofaggotry. Bunkerfag did the same. Vandweller did the same. Pinzfag did the same. eemc does the same. Namefags here keep their shit anonymous unless they are commenting directly on the subject they are known to have insight into, both to avoid drama (everyone loves having a name to throw rage at) and so people knew they were in it for the info, not the e-fame (otherwise why drop the name at all?). This is one of the things that makes /diy/ kind of neat.

Next time we have an "Ellie" thread, by all means, dust off that name field and punch some shit into it, otherwise just drop the fucking name already.

>>705088
surprisingly, it is not.
Taken from the nut or fruit or WTFE, it is sterile and works well.

>>705063
>Kekula
I couldn't even read the rest of that

>>705752
top fafz m8

>>705084
use a salt mix,
>morton's light 50/50 mix NaCl / KCl

salt substitutes are in many cases just potassium chloride mixed with ordinary salt to one degree

>tfw given electrolytes with no potassium

>>705095
This. You can get a ready-made respirator in the same store that sell the materials to make a diy respirator. Why reinvent the wheel?

>>705084
>"Where there is no doctor/Dentist
weren't they making a new version, or is it already out?

>>705872
>weren't they making a new version, or is it already out?
It's not out yet. They have advance chapters on their website at
http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/

Another useful link
http://www.soilandhealth.org/

For the last two days I've been inundated with ebola questions from family and friends. I never realized that panic was an on/off switch for people instead of a potentiometer from mild concern to screaming flee.

Any suggestions on how to deal with family that come to beg for help if/when things get bad?

>>705835
>>tfw given electrolytes with no potassium

I agree with your premise, but how many people are going to have a bottle of no-salt (KCl 99.9%) on their shelf? If you say "salt substitute", then you're going to have a bunch of well-hydrated dead people because they put Ms. Dash in their ORT solution.

Sodium is better than nothing.

>>705061
My brother got my dad a military-grade gas mask for cheap as hell. It wasn't pos-pressure but it was a helluva lot better than that hobbled-together POS. Probably didn't cost much more than the cost of materials/labor/gas in making that. Plenty of government's have that useless turnover that you can take advantage of with certain things. That said, I can see the usefulness of being able to McGyver such a device out of shit you have lying around in an emergency.

>>705064
>>705131
I agree most Americunts are fucktarded ESPECIALLY in even potentially stressful situations. I prefer to be prepared ESPECIALLY because of these fucktarded idiots I'm surrounded by. I'll see what I can drum up.

>>706232
I'm not finding much of anything as far as what OP specifically requested as far as fending off the immediate threat (lol) of ebola, but I'll post what I can as I read through and maybe something will crop up.

Also I should note that most of what I'll be posting (besides the first lot which came from particularly helpful /k/ommando's) can be found in the sticky, so for you numpties who haven't yet made your way to it I'd suggest doing so ya fookn lazy assholes.

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>>706262
This one's a simplified version of the gunshot wounds for dummies (>>706246), but it also says some other shit. That part about filing away the dead flesh made me cringe.

>>706265
These next two aren't fully medically related, more /out/doors, but I think still relevant.

>>706269

As a first responder (LE) I was given this (pic)

3M RRPAS™ Rapid Response Powered Air
Purifying Respirator System (PAPR)

With foil wrapped CBR filters.

>>706257
Never realized Dandelions were edible.

>>706413
>CBR filter
cool well that'll give you one trip to the store to gather supplies. how many minutes does each filter give you? generally they need to be replaced after about 20 minutes

>>706416
20 minutes in what contaminated atmosphere?
With biologicals, it's filtering sub micron particles and oxidizing them with colloidal silver, or iodine. For radionuclides it's just a hepa filter.
For chemical, it uses carbon and absorbing/neutralizing chemicals. There's 3 on the unit, should give me an hour in a highly contaminated area.
Useful filter life depends on concentration of contaminants in PPM.
There's always a fresh case of filters available after washdown.

>>706415
Neither did I until I started looking into that kinda stuff. I guess the root has got quite a bit of caffeine and could be used as a morning coffee/strong tea.

>>706415
>Never realized Dandelions were edible.
The younger you can get them, the better they taste. The leaves get very bitter as they age.

There is another -really- common weed that's edible too. HenBit. It's in the mint family. Where I live you could eat henbit breakfast lunch and dinner from march through june and you'd still have to mow it.

Medical Doctor in ER here.

All you guys really need is painkillers and antibiotics.

Everything else should be handled by us.
The amount of instruments I see in BOBs that I'm sure the owner cannot use is astounding.

What you really need is a nurse on your team, and have them stock what they know how to use. It's a technical job. A youtube tutorial unfortunately cannot replace decades of experience.

I for one am more interested in getting to know technical people (mechanics, gun enthusiasts etc) than making a mess trying to do everything myself.

Just so nobody says I'm not being helpful, I'll say that you don't really need to find a vein for administering fluids. Just jab the needle anywhere under the skin, ideally the back, and get the fluids going. It's slower, but it can save your life. You can do more than one if you're concerned.

As for oxygen, why the hell would you want that? If they're sick enough to need oxygen, non-medics will not be able to save their life. Remember that oxygen tanks are used up pretty quickly.

The only protective equipment I recommend is gloves. Masks aren't very helpful. I wouldn't touch an Ebola patient even if I were wearing full protective equipment. Are you really going to wear protective equipment all day?

>>706856
I think they mean assisted ventilation. like in those closed loop anesthetic machines they use to keep people in a coma in intensive care.

if heroin addicts can figure it out without a tenth grade education I'm sure preppers could work out how to find a vein.

>>706891
Ventilators are not easy to operate. They need technical professionals to operate and maintain. Not to mention a constant flow of gas, chemicals and electricity.

>>706856
The thing is neckbeards are autistic fantasists, they think they are clever enough to do anything even though they can't even talk to people. I totally agree that when it comes to first aid less is better. Once I had some large bump on my head and tried to pop it with a needle. I used antiseptic but I still ended up making it worse somehow. Now I just leave it whenever it happens again.

>>706856
>No snake bite kit.
>No suturing kits for random deep cuts.
But otherwise I agree.

>>706901
Oh, no. I'd say the people ITT are genuinely concerned about health when society is stunned by a pandemic. This is understandable, but I'd shift my focus towards making friends who are skilled in areas which I do not have the time to dedicate to learning. In my case that would be people who can fix cars and properly use a gun. In other people's case it would be people who can care for wounds and common infections caused by filth and squalor.

I'd like to see the rise of prepper clubs organizing retreats for groups with this common concern. Regrettably, lone-wolfing is the rule when it comes to civilian disaster preparedness.

>>706897

Bull fucking shit you god damned retard. Lots of amerifat sleeps with assisted ventilation every night. Because of muh apnea.

>>706856
>As for oxygen, why the hell would you want that? If they're sick enough to need oxygen, non-medics will not be able to save their life. Remember that oxygen tanks are used up pretty quickly.

I posted the oxygen concentrator. My application is post-scuba O2. For normal dives it helps take some of the tiredness off. For abnormal dives, O2 while waiting on transport can make a big difference in outcome.

From a oh-shit perspective, having O2 available is unlikely to help a person with ebola. Is it worth having for someone in respiratory distress or with significant trauma while waiting on transport? I'll leave that question to you.

Also, welcome to the thread!

>>706897
i understand this. I was refering to shooting up saline being easy

>>705059
well i whould like to point out that most houses are not safe.
against nasty stuff (bugs, bactiria, gasses, radiation, smoke, ash, dust, mold/mushrooms and other unspeakable horrors that are nameless)
>air can get in the house since there are holes
>there is mostly very low security (breakable doors, windows,walls and roof)since most will be able to get inside without tools or a hammer

and since this thread is about medical treatment and safety an apocalytic world.

i think that it whould be relavent to take about a strategy to stay safe.
dont do anything that is hazardes
be prepared (food, water, safehouses, safety drills, stay off grid)