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691629 No.691629[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Dear diy,

Please excuse my poor english (germanfag here).
I want to attach three floating shelves onto a concrete wall inside my apartment (see pic related).
It should be AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE.
There will be books, my records collection, DVDs etc. stored on it. That´s why I´m a bit concerned whether that construction will be sufficient, esp. the attachment to the wall.
W>=6m btw
What´s your impression, do you have any advice, or better suggestions?
Thanks in advance

>> No.691710

bumping for justice,

because someone here must be able to estimating whether this thing will rip off the wall or not.

>> No.691758

>>691629
>because someone here must be able to estimating whether this thing will rip off the wall or not.

Hi. I'm unable to determine the dimensions of your shelves, types of fasteners, or the expected load to answer your question. Sorry. :(

>> No.691762

>floating shelves
>record collection

Forget about that one m8

>> No.691969

>>691762

OP here.
Not really a collection (about 50 LPs), it´s just to give an example. Most will be books.

Put another way, how much will that setup hold, and is there a cheap way to improve it? I could imagine increasing thickness (t) would help?

>> No.691976

>>691969
I'm not really able to do the calculations but my gut says that won't hold anything very heavy at all.

A few books sure. If you're getting into stacks of books or boxes of vinyls then forget it (in my humble opinion)

I can't tell how thick your wooden strips are but from the looks of your diagram you have less than 40mm of length of screw in your concrete. Doesn't seem like very much at all.

And you're using 60mm screws that are going into your wood boards parallel with the grain. Not near long enough. Those are just begging to be ripped out the moment any real weight is put on that shelf. Lag screw or even nuts & bolts might be better here. (Drill out a hole in the board to get a nut in)

>> No.692088

>>691976

Think you´re right.
Also due to material costs, I think I go back to a non-floating contruction. I´ll choose wall-colored holders, that´ll do it.
I also saw some floating kitchen shelves, those are mounted via a bolt from behind and go all through the board. But - too expensive

Thanks for your responses

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>> No.692089
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692089

I have some in my house and they hold up alright, I haven't really loaded up them with a lot, probably 2 pounds more or less and they're only 2ft in length. You could do it in 1m sections so that you don't have a huge leverage in a single piece of wood.

Also you could add little decorative chains or L shaped metal braces like pic related so it isn't that weak.

Post progress.

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692091

>>692088
By looking at pics on Google it looks like they'll hold up ok if you do it right. Plus you can also do this:
>>692089

>> No.692102
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692102

See picture. Visit Hornbach.

>> No.692133

Yes, some one can. Anyone who has taken statics.
Take the load, time the moment arm, that will tell you the force at the wall. For simplicity assume all the weight is at the end of the board, farthest from wall.


Make sure your anchors can support already 20% moree than that and your good.

For example,
200lbs of books, 2 ft from wall will place a 400lb load at the wall. At that point. I would thus select the appropriate size and number of tampons to get me at least 480lbs of support and place them evenly on the wall. Double would be better, cripple if your paranoid.

I would use tapon screws.

So weigh what you want, x shelf depth = load at wall

>> No.692134

>>692133
Tapcon not tampon, damn phone

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>>692133
>the appropriate size and number of tampons to get me at least 480lbs of support

yea, my phone does similar shit

my experience with shelving is don't go for floating shelves if you live where they may be earthquakes the dynamic loading on the shelves can tear them off the wall, or if the wall isn't supported properly, make it unstable and collapse