/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Not yurts, that's for sure.

probably some kind of arts festival. pavillions, "camp grounds", gigs. something like burning man to bring in big wads of hipster cash.
no homo

One of the major issues that's often ignored in scenarios like this is housing and feeding workers.

If it were up to me, part of the 500k would go to buying 7-8 shed kits, which would be set up, insulated, and used to house the workers/residents. Another part of the 500k would go to buying staple food items in bulk, like rice, pasta, and potatoes. Workers would provide for their own power by way of solar panels. Water could be had by trucking it in, drilling a well, or possibly collecting rainwater. I'm not sure how to handle heating, though... the meat of the construction would have to be taken care of in the spring and autumn, I believe.

Tesla coil symphony stadium (At least like 16 voices). Design it around the valley you're in. Get some zoning concessions from neighbors. Have most bitchin concerts and performances ever.

Free range orgy

We ought to collaborate with the anons from >>609321 and draft some real plans.

>>616345
Everyone buy themselves a home. Metered eletric and water to every building. Massive garden, orchard, greehouse, barn, workshop, garage, water wells and purification system, airstrip, shooting range, sports fields, crops, livestock, grazing, paintball, pond, weather station, radio tower, observatory, radio astronomy,

Depends on region & water, but ideally, A modest farm growing to eat & trade food, livestock, bees, & mj too, a big shop for restoring cars, bikes, & whatever & building stuff to sell, welding, wood working, artsy shit, etc..single wides spread out around the property for personal space, and women and families, nice neighbors. Build biking trails across the property and an 18 hole disc gold course, and big ass bluegrass band parties at sunset around the bonfire.

>>616421
this is exactly my dream life

one day...one day...ill get there or die trying

>sell land
>move to west coast
>buy pic related
>renovate and keep things rustic
>train men how to crew it
>do charter pirate tours as boot camp
>help people by treating people like shit
>invest profits in EMP R&D
> make a massive emp generator to bring with us that cuts out all other nav electronics/engine controls/radios etc
>be an oldschool pirate and retire to some island rich as shit where the locals ask no questions
>drink and whore out the rest of my days

yup

if the climate is right. I'm making one of those earth starships.

>>616329
Would the men be big, handsome, and naked except a thin coating of oil?

>>616490
Not unless you're Turkish.

>>616433

Earthships?

>>616397

>everyone buy themselves a home

While this would be ideal, communal housing would be more efficient and provide a much lower cost of entry.

>>616421

>big shop for restoring cars

Considering the property is rural, would this be worth it?

Based on the current growth industry and my being tired of all the bullshit currently in my life: massive pot farm.

>>616584
>Earthships?
where I'm from, we call that a "grow house" ;)

>>616587

Don't be fooled - while Earthships traditionally incorporate a greenhouse, their primary purpose is residential.

As you guys can probably tell I fucking love these things.

>>616596
You can tell earthship were designed in the south west. They well suited for environments without lots of rain or frost heaves.

About these men, do I pay them? Or can I consider them friends/friends-of-friends who can be paid in food and drink?

I'll just go ahead and assume the latter, and build some sort of weird techno-commune. Not too communal though. We'll be comrades by way of our interests and our shared distrust of mega-corporations and government snooping.

Not sure how moving to rural Colorado will accomplish anything, but I'm sure it will, once we get settled and we have a fleet of DIY robots to grow organic crops for us and our own telecom cooperative to handle internet and cellular services.

Actually, that's reason enough to do this. Organic food grown by a bunch of robots and getting internet from a non-profit cooperative.

>>616329
>If you had 50 acres in rural Colorado, $500,000, and 15 men, what would you accomplish and how?
Rent/lease the majority of the land to someone else
Reserve half an acre to an acre for myself
Invest in a small home on the property (manufactured home might be a good idea)
Invest the remainder of the money in solid long-term investments
Live off the rent/lease from the rest of the property
Don't need 15 guys for any of this, send them home

>>616618
I like you.

>>616381
I was about to say "build a gay bath house"

>>616329
start a town

>>616605
>They well suited for environments without... frost heaves

Damn. I hadn't considered that.
The heavy snowfall might be a boon in summer months, though, if it could be collected.

>>616618

For the sake of this thread let's say the latter. As long as they're set up with room, board, and basic utilities you're good to go.

Pic semi-related.

15-man gay orgy fueled by $500,000 worth of cocaine.

Could you start a wind farm or other energy producing "crop"? I have no idea if this is feasible with 5k and 14 guys (one is always out sick).

>>616664
>solar farm
>rural Colorado
Maybe if it was New Mexico or Arizona, but I don't know much about Colorado really, is it sunny or windy enough there all year around to make it worthwhile?

>>616664
A single commercial scale wind turbine costs way more than 500k. Anything small enough to buy and set up with 500k isn't even going to take 1 guy to maintain.

>>616685
I guess that's true....oh well.

>>616329
Container houses

>>616674

While I don't doubt the community could support itself with a solar/wind generating system, selling enough power to make a profit would be difficult.

>>616701

I have heard a looot of shit about those. What makes them worthwhile?

>>616702
Container are a ebin /diy/ mene. They are used in very specific situations where cost isn't a problem but time/space is. E.g, disasters, ships, oilrigs, scientific bases and the like

>>616596
I like earthships except that you have to replaster over the tires yearly.

I would just build an earth-rammed home with earthship principles.

>>616618
How do you make robots farm? What do they look for?
I have thought about this a lot. Would you have to have one robot for each class of plants? A robot for squash wouldn't work for tomatoes would it?

If i could send the 15 guys away I'd put the farm in a trust and plant nut crops and chill out smoking weed while traveling the world on whatever the harvest would pay for.

If I had to make something with 15 other people I'd just build rental units and chill out, smoking weed with travel as the rental funds would allow.

The only scenario where I'd want others involved would be if I were trying to overthrow a government to establish my own little libertarian utopia somewhere. Short of that, people would only complicate things and probably be more of a burden than anything.

>>616888

The 15 others are fellow investors, if you send them away you're giving up the $500,000 and the land.

>>616329
with that kind of starting resources in ten years i would rule colorado in 50 years my kids would own the world.
I would start with first make some shitty house and a nice workhouse, that would take about a month with those workers, after that invest in my own designs for green energy, buy a 3d printer and start a business, also in two or three years i would have become more independent with the help of hydroponics and fishing farms.
after that i would spend the next two years working on my own designs.
after that would be smooth sailing the wave of faggotry

>>616329
Whatever i wanted.

>farming robot
It's called a tractor

>>617100
Dude.. no one has put an arduino on a tractor yet.

>>617203
sounds like a decent idea

>>617203

> implying

Yes, there are self-guided tractors, and yes, I've made a poor-man's version with a Parallax board.

>>617203
Harversters are guided by gps here in brazil. Same for some tractors.

Clear it out, start a farm, build cabins, live simply with minimal expenses. This should not be but 300k. Put 100k into marijuana farming startup costs, invest remaining 100k in mid-cap stock options.

All 16 of us will be millionaires within 5 years.

Cannabis farm

>>618956
this guy has the right idea

>>616329
>15 men
Does it have to be men? Can I have 15 women? I'd get a lot of tents, drugs food etc, have an orgy until winter comes.

>>618956
>the 16 of us

I'd make a foundation dedicated to teaching people the methods, techniques and skills for living independently off the grid. Kind of like Boy Scouts for adults. Ideally not everyone is going to live off the grid, but teaching these things will inform people and give them the option to do so later in life.

I think a LOT of people want to get away from the Incorporated America lifestyle that people are forced to live but don't know how else to live. Many people have dreams of living independently this way but don't know how. Others are curious or maybe just think it's a good way to save on living expenses. Either way I think there is a very large need for some sort of group that teaches,in a hands on manner, exactly how do to do this.

An organization like this could learn how to do something hands on by doing it, and then give back to the community by donating the fruits of their labor. For example they could teach people how to build a tiny home by actually building one as a group (like >>610046) and then donating the tiny home to people in need. Teach how to build a hydroponics system, then donate the food to soup kitchens. People would earn badges or awards like in boy scouts for doing this. Not only as proof of what you've learned (as is with boyscouts), but more importantly as proof and a reminder to oneself of the projects they've participated in have helped the community.

>>619165
I like you. The world needs something like this.

>>619106

Of course. I just put down "men" because I figured they'd be more skilled in construction and more tolerant of a few months of rugged living.

>>619240
Fuck u OP I am as capable mechanically as any man, even better

>>619270

Mechanically maybe. Physically, not even close. Mentally? I don't know I've met some bitch ass men in my time.

Can you shit in a ditch for a month?

>>616329
waco 2 electric boogaloo

>>616880
earthships aren't homes built of tire dipshit
open your fucking brain

>>619824

From Wikipedia:
>An Earthship is a type of passive solar house made of natural and recycled materials (such as earth-filled tires)

I get that earth-filled tires may not be used in ALL cases, but they seem to be the trend.

are they big guys?

>>619807
If you've got 500k's you can afford pallet jacks, compressors, pneumatic tools (nail gun, etc.,) and if necessary forklift and crane. I built my cabin without most of the equipment stated above with the assistance of my bro. Mentally=Attitude to get the job done. Deployment Kandahar, Afghanistan: Does a porto potty count, I beieve so, basically same principle as crapping in a ditch, and for not only a month a years worth. Glad them days over.

>>619952
Tats what I want to know and are they muscular, brawny, can't keep your hands off, type of macho men? Need to know and do you have any pictures of said males (keep it clean).

Build large hut.
Start cult.
Make soap.

>>619979
Good point. Don't want your cult getting dirty.

>>619807
Got to fortify yourself just to go take a shit: ski cap, gatorneck, hefty coat, winter gloves, and flashlight (don't want to trip over hangar cables) at friggin 03:00, wind rushing down the airfield hammering u with all its fury, until finally the porto potty. Now u have to remove gloves, coat, coveralls, until almost butt naked...freezing yur-well not balls but everything else.

>>619978

For the moment, this is hypothetical.

In terms of human resources selection: You can select 15 individuals from any board (or website) you desire. Because of a sophisticated screening and interview process whoever you select will end up being above average in terms of skill.

I would choose 5 /diy/ers, 3 /fit/izens, 2 /out/doorsmen, 2 /g/entoomen, 2 /biz/nessmen, and 1 /sci/entist.

>>620095
What about those of us who multiclass?
I, for instance, have 4 levels in /g/entooman, 3 in /biz/ness, 2 each in fa/tg/uy and train e/n/thusiast, and 1 in /fit/izen. Also trained but not leveled in /k/, /diy/, /m/, and /sci/.

>>620095
15 from /b/

>>620148
>1 in /fit/izen.
so you're a fat gay dude?

>>620148

Sure, you can choose people who browse multiple boards. For the sake of this exercise, the more boards an individual browses, the more their skill level in each drops. So someone who divides their time between /fit/ and /lit/ will be moderately proficient in fitness and literature, but someone who browses 10 boards won't have any skills worth mentioning.

>>620152

Good choice mate :^)

bump

Dig a hole. Fill it with the 500k.swim in a pool of money.

>>619952
FOR YOU

>>616421
are you me? a giant shop is my pipe dream.

>>616329
use wood gasification, solar, wind, hydro & geothermal to get "off the grid" energy. >>616584
has it right... the earthship concept is great. The main problem is that it's not a "one size fits all" type of design. You must use what is available in the environment (the 50 acres). Building must be able to withstand yearly temperature swings plus storm, flood & earthquake threats.

A self sustaining art colony / teaching colony might be a worthy goal

One of the biggest issues with Earthships and other alternative housing methods is getting them approved by the local building authorities. Attached is a map of Colorado, with counties that I can verify have no building codes colored in green. Of these I would most recommend Delta for its liberal attitudes towards green construction.

You can also see http://earthship.com/codes-and-laws for more info on this.

>>616638
this

>>616640
>hyrdoponics
>NFT in general
Fuck that shit, media-filled growbed based aquaponics is where it's at

I'd set up a huge aquaponics farm growing tilapia and all sorts of fruits and vegetables. To make sure we always had the water to keep this system going, most of it would be inside something like a stilltent from Dune. Also what little rainwater was caught would be utilized fully.
There'd be other farms too, growing rabbits and chickens that'd be fed off of the grain and veggie scraps from the aquaponics system.
We'd eat mostly what we grew, and sell or store the surplus. With the money from selling our organic, locally grown produce (hipsters love that shit) we pay land taxes and put most in a trust for our progeny to go to college.
We'd be living in a combination of earthships, hobbit-holes, and hovels, each man to his own.
I'm sure brewing would occur.

>>622142
>for our progeny to go to college.

So they wouldn't have to do the stupid shit you do? How about you go to college, get a decent job, setup a trust fund and just skip the other steps entirely.

>>622147
I thought the point of getting a decent job was so that I would have the money to be able to do things like this?

>>622149
The point of getting a good paying job is that you can hire other people to get their hands dirty while you enjoy the results. Unless you enjoy this kind of shit. In which case you get a job doing this shit for other people so you can do what you love doing while getting paid big money for it. The deal is that you have to do it on a large enough scale as so really make money at it.

What you are talking about, making just enough produce to pay the bills with a little left over, is subsistence farming. Subsistence farming is shit. You are one or two bad years away from being broke, landless and in debt to Uncle Sam. If you think you wont suffer the same problems that normal farmers do, like pestilence or disease, you're delusional. Double that for organic operations. Why do you think that shit is so expensive? Because their costs go up from all those chemicals they aren't buying? Nah, its 'cause their output is shit.

Their crops are smaller, take longer to grow and outright fail more often. What do you thick an organic farmer does if their grains develop mold or their chickens get sick? If he wants to stay organic, which costs A LOT of money to get certified for, they kill the chicks or plow the field under and hope it doesn't happen again next year.

On top of that, what are you gonna do to pay the bills (other than "land", which I guess you think is your only expense)? It costs tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to setup a self sustaining system like that. Even a small one. How are you gonna pay for power? Insurance? Fuel? You're clothes, home, vehicle and medical? What about extra labor for when harvest comes? It takes decades for farming startups to pay off their initial investments. If you are lucky your kid's kids will be the ones befitting from your college fund.

I'd build self sustanable housing like the earthships.

I wouldn't do large size crops. i'd do small ones but with enough of them to feed everyone +leftover - check this video where a family uses 1/10th of an acre to produce 6,000 lbs of food, about 80% of their diet is grown on that land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmTJkZy0rM

Grow as much of a variety as possible.
With all the small growing crop plots you can switch them up season to season with animals etc. This means the lands constantly fertile.

I'd keep bees, make a brewery, i'd be into smithin so i'd have a smelter etc I'd pretty much do everything, i'd produce as much as possible in as small a space as possible.
All of this produce can be sold at a slightly higher than average price as it's all fresh and pure, all the hipsters go crazy for all that shit, especially if it's packaged nicely etc.

I'd say about 60% of the land would just be used as natural landscape to wander and enjoy.

oh it might be worth looking into farming fish too -

http://youtu.be/CfR9nDsvBk8

Some of the best ideas so far:

- arts festival (>>616334)
- tesla coils (>>616352)
- greenhouses (>>616397)
- sports fields (>>616397)
- observatory/astronomy practice (>>616397)
- beekeeping (>>616421)
- a big workshop/garage, could be used for restoring vehicles (>>616421)
- biking trails (>>616421)
- bonfires (>>616421)
- earthships (>>616584)
- labor-saving automation (>>616618)
- DIY internet service, possibly intranet as well (>>616618)
- earth-rammed home (>>616880)
- hold lectures and workshops for teaching people how to live more independently and sustainably (>>619165)
- wood gassification (>>621574)
- some solar (>>621574)
- some wind (>>621574)
- aquaponics with tilapia (>>622142)
- atmospheric water reclamation and rainwater catchment (>>622142)
- rabbits, chickens (>>622142)
- no mass agriculture/subsistence farming (>>622176)
- microbrewery (>>622270)
- smithing (>>622270)

>>618953
guided by gps, still has a man sitting in the drivers seat.
>...
>profit?

>>616430
I like that idea
EMP generators aren't hard to make

I threw together a quick list of inexpensive solutions for food, water, power, and sanitation needs. Of course, a lot of food would have to come from outside and getting water trucked in and a linkup to the grid would still be helpful.

>>622989

Any decent sized source of running water and you can make a water wheel. Depending how you want things setup the water wheel could be a direct source of power, or you can wire up a charger to some UPS batteries as a power supply. Then a 12-120v converter for household utilities.

>>622176
What you fail to consider is the yield of aquaponic crops. I also hold it quite possible to have an intelectual work aside farming.

>>623004

Except finding decent-priced land with so much as a creek on it is tough - not to mention the regulatory hoops you typically have to jump through to get hydropower allowed on your property.

>>622119
>delta

that looks like square in the goddamn mountains.

anyone have any maps/info on the terrain of CO? like which counties are better for growing plants/animals? i guess along the same line as what OP is thinking, but hopefully not a desert.

anyone know anything about water in CO? water courts man.

>>622147
>So they wouldn't have to do the stupid shit you do
shit son im working on EE in college to have the money to do this.

the idea of a plot of land, my own water well, garden, and whatever the fuck else i want to do is pretty nice.

Self-sufficiency should be secondary to ongoing profit which can be used to build a community with a comfortably self-sufficient fallback option.

The skills which allow for self-sufficiency also allow for much more.

>>623037

This - not to mention total self-sufficiency is impractical, much of what we could make ourselves can be obtained for less elsewhere.

Smoking tons and tons of weed.

Tell people that is buried treasure somewhere on the land.

If they give me $100 they can have a crack at finding it.

>>616624
damn. i don't know whether to congratulate you, tell you to go to /biz/ or call you a Jew

>>616329
Where's the land?

I wonder how many child brides I could get with 500.000?

>>624152

You choose. >>622119

>>616329
I may have been playing too much Skyrim but I would open up a dude ranch for vikings.

Day 1: Build a mead hall. Brew your own signature mead. (Its stupid simple) Sell mead. Teach classes on home brewing techniques.

Day 2: Pig hunt in the day. Pig roast at night.

Day 3: Rent a story teller to read Nordic fables and such

Day 4: Blacksmiting techniques. Have class make chain-mail do-dads

Day 5: Raid of mock village maybe?

hey /OP/ i could be one of the investors. i have currently around 22k Euros (that is 30.5k USD or 33.5CAD) it's not exactly 1/15th of 500k but i am getting there...

so where do i sign up?

>>624348
Dayum

>>616430
its like you dont know how much USCG bullshit is involved in that idea

>>624348
can i be your friend?

>>624351

> innawoods.com

>>62440
Thank god I dont live in the US

>>624610
supporting a shit 4chan clone with my money? no thank you

>>616329
male whore house.

>>624982
lady whore house.

>>624758

OP here.

I'm actually a member of a near-identical project to what I described, but it's still under construction and not ready for release yet. I just came to /diy/ for ideas.

does it have to be in Colorado?

I'm kind of interested in pioneering the domestication of manatee as sea-beef.

A mass grave with 15 people in it.

Grow Hemp and Hemp products and sell it.

>>625184

Almost definitely unless a very good case is made for another state.

And I hate to break the bad news to you, but I don't think your plan would fly what with manatees being endangered and all.

Sell the land, sell the men, move to Texas.

sell 50 acres of land

bank the $500,000

send the 15 men home

invest $480,000

become a neet and live off the interest for the rest of my life in a cozy apartment in some other country

>>625610
Can I have 1st. bid on one of the men, would he come wit a guarantee, and if said product is not bonded not interested.

Buy greenhouses, start up solar heated aquaponics growing tropical fruits for local markets. Pawpaw, Orange, Kumquat.

Durng the winter we can set up hot compost piles to heat the pipes for the water, in turn warming the plants.

I suggest Cherax Destructor, alongside some aquarium animals for sale.
Small neocardina shrimp of rare varieties could be lucrative, as could raising koi, each could provide a different sort of system.

The Cherax can breed exclusively in freshwater, grow over a foot long, taste like lobster, and lay hundreds of eggs per year.
They are also highly tolerant of others, when provided with enough hiding spaces. We can keep em in kiddy pools.

http://youtu.be/IimS5ccV0eM

The outside I'd encourage chickens in a food forest type setup. I'd explain in better in person.

We'd keep several goats, and a few alpacas.
The goats would be for meat mostly, but also milk if we get effective milkers. If the other guys are pussies I can slaughter and butcher.

The feathers, bones and other waste would feed dermestid beetles, our chickens would be supported with insect farms fed with our garden waste, alongside worms, and duckweed that we'd buy more kiddy pools for in summer. Duckweed proliferates really quickly and it can replace a third of their traditional feed with no ill effects on size or egglaying. We'd sell eggs, and cheese, and jerky to "Friends" who won't rat us out to the FDA.
We'd sell crafts to the pagan community, black animals to the vodoo folks.
I study things for fun, so I am well versed in herbal remedies. (I don't mean just weed) So I can help the livestock with many illnesses that they can contract. I can deworm them without antibiotics, and I can safely sedate them for castration.(We're all guys, we'd all want to be asleep for that)
I'm an /an/t at heart.

>>626152
I'd raise pigs on a couple of acres, and they'd be allowed to eat the fruits and nuts that fall from the native fruit forest. We'd feed them whey from our cheesemaking, and insects. We'd grow another sort of duckweed to feed them, one with more fat.

We'd render their lard to make traditional candles and soaps. The soaps being more catered to the masculine side that's always ignored these days. We'll make soaps that smell like nuts and seeds, like campfires, and the sea, like spicy nose tickling scents that are actually natural. Incenses that cover weed smell naturally and sustainably would be actually considered if they fooled the police smell-o-trons.

We would grow sunflowers for the pigs, as they love them. We'd grow strong oaks for acorns, because acorn flours are a gluten-free commodites are growing. We'd grow hopniss because of it's substantial protein content and lack of care requirements. Once we're old we'll have a food forest for all our needs.

>>626155
>I'd raise pigs on a couple of acres, and they'd be allowed to eat the fruits and nuts that fall from the native fruit forest.
yeah, no. those pigs would fucking destroy every bush and tree on those couple acres.

>>626293
Thats why i said in my first post like..
instead of doing fields full of one crop, go for hundreds of small crops in 3 fields and then rotate them out every year with animals.
The animals will ruin the fields they're in and fertilize the land!

>>626298
so you'd farm erosion?

>>616329

I know what to do wit the 15 men, as far as the $500,000 gotta slip a dollar or more in their briefs for the lap dances and such.

>>626355
you know nothing about farming.

>>626728
That has got to be the gayest gedup I have ever seen.

It made me puke a little in my mouth.

>>626814
Ironing man

>>626944
>puke
Just viewed it briefly and look what happened...Should be banned.

>>616624
You could have just said "I have no imagination, I'd let someone else paint my canvas"

>>616329
Waco siege 2.0

I'll let you know when I'm done with three weeks out in Texas, OP. I'm gonna build a fairly good-sized hydroponics system.

>>624348
>Day 5: Raid of mock village maybe?
>not building an elite clan of knights and raiding the country side for real, slowly claiming swathes of land, fuck the polis

>>627597

Sure, keep me posted.

the only answer is a 100% self sustainable place to live

If you have the pick. You could get 15 people who know how to develop a computer game and fund the project using the 500k and use the 50 acres are your development site. Make a kick ass game, export it and possibly make a profit.

Just an idea, my personal aspirations have already been mentioned.

>>627597

Alrighty, how about a little progress picture?

>>628750
>building a building
>not using ICF

>>628752

>these kinds of buildings need to be made a specific way
>ICF costs way too much for very minimal benefit that can be obtained cheaper through traditional building methods done properly
>ICF breaks apart pretty easily in this area of the USA where temps swing pretty wildly and on a whim, yay contraction and expansion

>>628750

Damn, that's pretty sizable. Do you mind posting some more pics, maybe some details about it?

>50 Acres
survey the terrain for vantage points, find a spot for a well, and set up solar/hydro-electric/wind turbines wherever possible.
>$500,000
Build an underground bunker, have a hydroponics lab, and a store room with mass amounts of protein, vitamins, and a water purification facility with access to underground well.

With $75,000 I would build outposts for the 15 men to live rent-free in return for their unwavering protection, I also would equip them well in about $5,000 worth of custom designed tactical equipment.

The rest goes into surveillance, booby-traps, and pantry.

maybe build a mini-chopper for evac.

>>616329
In this scenario how much imitation crab do I have access to?

>>616329
Sell the land in colorado and go to a not shitty state.

>>616329
I would sell it. Colorado is for liberal faggots and bisexual hippies

>>629363

http://imgur.com/a/Taivx - progress pictures starting from April 21st to present (April 26th)

This is only being done by three people, BTW. Yes, I work fast.

This will be a system capable of producing about a ton of fresh herbs and greens daily. 60' x 20', 8' front ceiling 14' back ceiling. Lit by 360 40w LED units, thermostatically controlled dual AC units and a dozen thermostatically controlled fans to prevent air stratification. Recirculating nutrient tanks, NFT channels.

>>629378
You don't have a clue what anything costs. Not a damn clue.

>>629378
>Build an underground bunker

That alone is going to drop the entire half million you have, even using the cheapest preformed ICF.

Might want to do some research while you're at it. That hydro building I'm building (shown in this thread) is already topping $150,000 and that's BEFORE LEDs, hydroponics channels, pumps, fans, plumbing, nutrient tanks, aerators, etc. ABOVE GROUND.

>>629477
this is /diy/ i'd do the welding and concrete on my own.

I would just need supplies and excavators, drilling for the well too.

could 100% do for under 250g tho.

>>629468
You're my hero.

>>629511

Have a video of the progress as of day 5.

http://youtu.be/l6bTSJVLCVI

It's this thread again.

I've missed you, old friend.

>>629499

The building materials for my shown above-ground hydro building ALONE is now over $200,000 in one of the cheapest places in the country. That's not including anything hydro related, plumbing and etc.

And I am DIY this entire thing, sir. I do this for a living and I know you aren't going to be able to do it under a quarter million. The rental on heavy excavator equipment ALONE will almost break your bank with the insurance requirements.

>>629914
I can build the motor myself, that wont be much.

if you spent 200,000 on materials you went over on your battery bank, are doing some serious water redirection, or are using electrolysis on excess electricity and have a dangerous hydrogen reserve.

I'm just building a big motor and putting a turbine downstream. I don't need huge efficiencies or complex hydro-ops, I just need enough for lights, some basic appliances, and misc electronics. HVAC costs will be extremely low due to being under ground.


Also excavator costs aren't that much. I'd dig 30 feet deep, 15 x 15, 3 levels (8ft each), excess dirt would cover the bunker.

also at 12 foot deep I'd bury two 20 ft long pipes that are 7' in diameter for the hydro.

what would cost me the most are the things I cannot do myself like drilling ~100ft holes to tap wells.

>>629981
>HVAC costs will be extremely low due to being under ground.
no, they'll cost more than an above ground building of the same size.

>>629985
9/10 almost was going to correct

>>629981
>if you spent 200,000 on materials you went over on your battery bank,

Where did I mention a battery bank?

>Also excavator costs aren't that much

The insurance on the rental ALONE is a hundred grand, pal. Typical Daily costs are $10,000.

>HVAC costs will be extremely low due to being under ground.

Not really, once you take into consideration you're going to need to vent any excess heat you generate. And you really don't understand just how much it's going to take to grow your own food. in the space of a small house (120sqft) you're going to need at least 15kWh. Even with LEDs, that's a ton of heat.

You didn't do your research on this, that much is certain.

>>630066

Ahem, that 120 should be 1200.

Bump for interest

>>630606

Apologies for not updating with more pictures. I'm actually out off site visiting family (and getting put on the Wall of Flame at Pluckers)

Will update Monday.

>>630827

Update is going to take a couple more days, insulation guys are spraying right now, can't do much of anything until they're finished.

a jail with thunderdome

Obviously an outdoors gay orgy with a tonne of blow (both kinds)

>>616329
i'd make one of the men my bottom bitch, send him and the other 14 into the city to sell their bodies for cash. then i'd relax, wealthy, in the peace and quiet of my fucking land

this isn't a hypothetical question:
innawood.org

>>625184
c:

if you had 500 acres of montana soil, $500 and 50 black, nigger men; what would you accomplish and how?

>itt we grossly overestimate how much 500k will get you in a construction venture.

Snuck a pic before they arrived to finish the job.

>>631380

I know pretty much exactly what my little construction venture is going to cost. These insulation guys ran me $6,000, for example.

All said and done, we're looking at $225K.

>>631383
Wait, you called and got quotes on a fictional construction project? If so, A for effort on contributing to this thread.

>>631394

>I've been posting pictures

>>628750
>>631382

>>631394

I'm not the same guy who's posting the progress pictures (though they are much appreciated). I wanted to start a general discussion about construction, greenhousing, power generation, &c. and to get some ideas for a personal project.

>>631295

Lol, I'm that guy who comes into your IRC channel every month or so. How's it going?

Ha, I'm still waiting on the insulation guys to finish spraying the ceiling. Walking around the construction site, suddenly I start coming across all of this quartz.

>>631405
That's a neat find. What is the geology in the area like?

>>631422

Tons of iron ore deposits, hilly area. Most of this stuff appears to have come in with the graded aggregate, though.

Man this insulation is flying everywhere!

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=1z6b0jt&s=8

>>631432

Getting the radiant barrier for one of the air control rooms set up.

>>631679

Also, the insulation guys did a bang-up job on sealing every crack we had with caulk. They're dead serious about no air penetration. A+++ would recommend for my next job if they weren't local-only.

>>622857
The same thing is done in America, don't act so high and mighty. What if the tractor starts to chase stray squirrels and racoons? How would you explain that to PETA?

>>631777

Just hand them a Stephen King book. PETA would probably go 'Oh, that makes sense' and turn into even worse conspiracy theorists.

i want to believe

>>622210

>>632365
>mfw this is my dream

Alright, hydroponics wells installed and insulated!

More pics coming

>>632646

Dual AC Units installed and working. Third likely won't be installed but we shall see.

>>632647

Also got insulated board installed in the main growing area ceiling. After this, final wall installation, outlet installation, plumbing and hydroponics. Still waiting on the lighting.

>>632648

We've got so much insulation we're hitting like R65 just on the ceiling. Probably R44 on the walls after we board it up. Hydroponics tank wells are R13. Each AC unit draws a mere 13A and pops 26,000BTU cooling power.

This building could probably get LEED Gold certified.

>>632649

Oh, and I'll take another video (courtesy of potatophone because regular camera is 100% stuck on picture mode, since I sat on it...)

A massive off-grid grow-op.

With that amount of money and labor I could build a mostly automated weed farm using solar power and diesel generators for electricity. It would pay itself off in a year.

Any other answer is inferior to this one.

>>632671
How would you avoid the coppers wrekin ur shit

>>631376

Double-paneled with airgap for soundproofing on the AC room.

>>633031
Snapped up the walls on both sides with more radiative barrier. Not even wireless signal gets inside. We control EVERYTHING.

>>633032

Despite being Agricultural exempt, I'm no damned slouch on my mains wiring.

And video for you, again from the potatophone.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=apjm6s%3E&s=8

>>633044
Didn't see if it was answered before:

Why did you decide to do this hydroponics facility? Is this a business you plan on doing or is this just for shits and giggles?

>>633091

This is what I get paid to do.I design hydroponics buildings and outfit them for growing any chosen crop. Primarily I just handle the lighting, but this time I was asked to help with construction.

>>632825
like sweat off a nigger' fohead

>>633033
are all of those wires supposed to be uninsulated? Its making me nervous

>>633436
it's ground, who cares.

>>633436

Those are ground wires, they're typically uninsulated.

Got the roof installed and finished the Tyvek wrapping. Only exterior things left are gutters and siding. (one more post coming.)

>>633437
>>633511

First off, splitting 240 isn't easy for n00bs so the bare wire nerves are understandable.

Now, for the other update:

Cleaned the hell up inside, besides needing to tape off the radiant barrier joints, the entire grow area except the air mix/return section is buttoned up tighter than virgin pussy. Had to jack up the seedling/processing/work room beam and add a 4x4 wood pillar to make the roof flat (huge 7-inch bow due to a two inch miscalculation. Thankfully we had a 12-ton jack!) But that sucker is ready for rubber flooring and ready for hydro/plumbing install, unless the owner decides to wrap the inside with inside-out Tyvek for white reflectivity versus the oil reflectivity. In reality, neither makes that much of a difference for our system and lighting choice.

>>633512

*oil=foil

Oh, to add, the untouched section and the single-insulated section on the upper right are for air return vents, so we're still working on those.

Yes, we're building as we go lol. But I've got a competent client and two competent crew members. it's been just us for these past couple weeks, and I really could not ask for a better crew in my entire experience over a decade. Even the Mexican insulators weren't fucking around.

>>633511
OCD here. Is it really that difficult to put the wrap on the right way around?

>>633542

When you're in a rush, it doesn't matter. Turns out we could've had a 35% discount on our next order from McCoy's if we had it right-side up the entire way around. Whoops!

I just got back from an awesome guitar show. More construction pics to come soon! Till then, enjoy this Godly beauty.

I'd prolly proceed to make a village called Joy.
It'd feature a top-quality weed farm, a brewery, an outdoor cinema, one or two organic farms and a restaurant. A 50 acre land should have some trees and shit, so I'd try to convert them into building materials as much as I can. Then I'd try to gather a community of about 150-200 people, Make them invest 50.000$ each, give them standarized housing and huge (like -70%) discounts at the local buisnesses and also offer them jobs there. Then, after a year or two we would buy another 20 acres of land and organize a festival named "The festival of Joy" there with live music, alternative movies and other kinds of art, weed from our farm, beer from our brewery and food from our farms.


Shit, that's my dream.

>>634349
Where I grew up they had something like that.

It was called the hippie farm.

Will get more pictures soon, I promise. I just did some bullshit lights testing today. Horrible results. I could build a better LED light.

Gotta get the gutters finished tomorrow.

>>634478

Gutters done excepting downspouts.

>>634893

Lighting installed in the air mix/return room, which will also double as a storage section.

>>634894

Reinforced the entryway beam after jacking it up to level the roof some.

>>634896

And jacked up the floor from underneath to level it out before we do our final wall installations.

>>634897

And if you want a more complete just-album to look at, in order, go to http://imgur.com/a/4pDIN#0

Sell the land, fire the Doods, and buy some land in Alaska (land is fucking cheap there) get a house built on it, and find some way to invest the rest of the money.

A mountain bike park

>>616329
>If you had 50 acres in rural Colorado, $500,000, and 15 men, what would you accomplish and how?
Sell the 50 acres
Bank the 500 000
Lay off the 15 men.

Build my home on 50 acres in a superior country like Canada.

>>633512
Why are some sections of the floor made from plywood while the rest is made with composite wood?

>>634963

Those plywood pieces are the lids to in-floor hydroponics nutrient wells.

>>629914
Would you be willing to post a cost breakdown?
$200k just seems too excessive.

Generally my city is expensive as fuck, we dont have Mexicans, but you can build all kinds of fully finished 4x2 houses for $200k.

https://www.newhomesguide.com.au/homes/perth/single-storey/?min_price=&max_price=200000&beds=3&bathrooms=&min_area=&max_area=&block_width=

>>635137
>Would you be willing to post a cost breakdown?

When all is said and done, sure.

Spent most of my day in here with 120PSI nailgun about 6"-12" from my head.

http://tinypic.com/r/5bo3zo/8

Three weeks and my Texas accent is back in full damned swing.

>>635137
>but you can build all kinds of fully finished 4x2 houses for $200k.

Commercial food production facility, not house. It's even stated right in that post.

>>635556
thanks

>>635559
> it's even stated right in the post.

Could you quote it for me, I seem to be distracted by the

> building materials ALONE is now over $200,000

For an extremely well insulated two room wood frame shed.

>>635633
Four room and the plumbing isn't even installed, yet.

>>632671

How the hell are you supposed to convert all that weed into money?

>>635763
Colorado. Open up a legal dispensary.

>>631382

What kind of insulation is that? How is it applied?

>>635556
Twang, drawl, appalachian, spanglish, or bayou accent?

>>635932

Spray in. Very thin layer of liquid which expands many times its applied volume.

>>636052
Twang. Too far up north to get drawl, spanglish, or bayou, and I don't live in TN any longer to get the Appalachian note in my voice.

>>636083
Well guys, it's been fun showing you stuff. I'm heading back home for a couple of weeks, then I'm probably coming back to finish off the lighting when it comes in, and I should have a BOM on stuff.

The LED lighting alone is going to be about $30K, depending on the manufacturer we go with. Maybe cheaper if I end up having to build them myself in case the samples we've ordered turn out to be garbage (protip: Philips Greenpower LED bars are crap. Advertise 40w, only 30w. Advertise 120 degree viewing angle, only 105 degrees.)

>>636083
>Spray in. Very thin layer of liquid which expands many times its applied volume.

I know that much. What I mean is how did they get it to be flat? It's looks as if they covered the walls with plastic wrap, put that insulation spray then removed the plastic wrap after it settled.

>>635559
How is it a commercial food production facility. It doesn't have
>LEDs, hydroponics channels, pumps, fans, plumbing, nutrient tanks, aerators, etc.

A house does have lights, fans, plumbing, as well as windows, cabinetry, floor finishes, paint, kitchen appliances, bathroom fittings.

>>631376

>>636346

They sprayed it then scraped it down to beam level.

>>636963

>doesn't understand it's not finished, hasn't been paying attention to the thread, posted videos, etc.

>>636963

Also, needing aerators for NFT. That's funny.

>>637315
No shit it is not finished. The guy I replied to said it cost $200k for a
> commercial food production facility
Im calling bullshit because the thread says it cost $200k before it has all the stuff needed to be a
> commercial food production facility

I would still like to know where you spent $200k on building materials alone without hydro shit.

>>637315
>They sprayed it then scraped it down to beam level.


oic. thx.

What is this magical spray insulation? What is it called? Do they have some machine that does this or do they buy hundreds of of spray cans? And does it do a better job of insulating?

>>637526
>And does it do a better job of insulating than that itchy padding stuff?

>>637375

When one is out in the middle of nowhere, Texas, things get pricey. Very likely so for those wanting to build out in nowhere, Colorado (which is where one would get 50 acres of land.)

>>637526

It's isocyanate and polyol resin mixed and sprayed. And yes, it does a much better job of that itchy fiberglass stuff.

The current rating on the walls is (with the radiant barrier) R44-45 and ceiling (with the added Perma-R and spacing) is around R60-65. Yea, it's just as good.

>>632825

>>616329
Build a tiny house

>>616430
>EMP generator
When you use this device. how do you avoid EMP'ing your own craft as well (assuming that you use your own vessel to bring the EMP device to within kill range)?

>>641034
Magic, just like in building the bomb. Also,
>oldschool pirate
>wooden sail ship

Buy a plane ticket, a small house in australia, and build a small shed.

>>616329
With such a generous grant, I would form and arm a colonial expedition into the heart of rural Colorado looking for the best living space I can find. I would then force out or otherwise cull the native degenerates to make room for genetically superior urban Californians.

>>641734
Someone shop that as warf please.

>>642477

>>642847
i loled hard, still loling... oh god 10/10

>>616882
I saw mention of UV/IR light emission of plants as a way of differentiating plants that are healthy and a certain color, or have some sort of deficiency. Guy i was in scouts with who is now an Ag dude was talking about a drone that could scan fields and spray based on these readings, never really looked too deep into it.