/diy/ - Do It Yourself

From what I have seen from the camera thing is that can really burn someone then shocking

>disposable cameras

Not really effective since you have to wait some seconds to give a single shock.

But you can do homemade tasers if you have some free time and you get some electric components/plans

The camera zaps people by discharging a cap used for the camera flash. It wont create a sustained charge. It'll just produce a comical (albeit glorified) static shock before someone proceeds to beat your ass. Also you're talking about stun guns. I'm under the impression tasers actually fire projectiles. I'd like to think a real stun gun, which can be had for cheaper than a disposable camera, is also more effective through light clothing (compared to a cap).

most stun-guns have output currents so low that they are not effective, and you can't build a stun-gun that is effective without the risk of killing people (like real Tasers occasionally do)

a homemade knife makes way more sense

anyone got plans or a how to link on making a home made one
ive got a shit tone of old electrical parts harvested from various sauces such as old laptops,tvs radios ect, so parts arnt really a problem.

>>407281
or a component list would be handy
ive tried googling this stuff but it all seems rather contradictory when it comes to voltage and materials

Why not just pepper spray?

>>407302
Pretty sure you can't build a knife that is effective without the risk of killing people either, unless your argument is that if you're gonna risk killing people, a sharpened spoon is easier than a homemade stun gun.

>>407281
>more of a gag
It is more of a gag, I made one, shocked myself a bunch of times, it hurts, but in no way incapacitates. It's not constant either, more just a single shock and then 20-30 recharge.

>>407419
This, very much this.
You can kill someone with a stun-gun.

As a /k/ommando, I sort of feel obligated to recommend you get a gun instead. Tasers, the one that launches a projectile, are a little pricey and only allow you to get one shot off before a rather timely reload. A stun gun obviously requires you to get close to the attacker(s). Pepper spray, which is definitely nice, is an extremely poor option in enclosed or tight areas. Of course, I'm assuming you live in an area that allows conceal carry or firearms. You really shouldn't put your well being or possibly your life on the line with a taser you built out of old parts. I'm willing to give you more advice if you'd like, but it may be more fitting to post on /k/ about it.

Pepper spray or a gun. Tasers are for police to torture people with.

Stop with the weapons threads

Look a flash/ stun guns. You can make them, and with a simple push of a button, BLIND/ and or shock someone to either
a) BLIND THEM, harder to hurt you if blind!!
b) Stun them, on the ground and helpless/ not u
c) Get attention/ confuse/ make a getaway think smokebombs without the chemicals and/or required permits
d) If you can do it/understand it/ afford it:
directional high power speakers (Sonic Boom@!$%)

P.S. weapons is where you want to go, this (self defense via active device/motion) is a weapon, even if used in self defense it can be considered as such.

>>407519
this.

get some pepper spray if you can't get a concealed carry permit and a decent pistol. (co not use a junky pistol for personal protection... it will misfire when you need it most)

>>407582

Seriously,just WTF.

OP,if you plan on carrying a weapon,don't let it be a knife or some stupid shit like that. Get a gun,learn how to use it. And be prepared to kill someone with it if you pull it out.

Don't be some fucknut that flashes it.

Seriously,home made knives,or store bought knives to defend yourself? Does someone want to be stabbed with their own shit?

Pepper spray is also balls because when you spray it,there is a high chance you will get it in your eyes,nose,and mouth too.

>>407519
This, seriously it's better in the long haul. Just get a nice pistol and learn how to safely use it. Just don't bitch out when it actually comes time to kill someone.

Camera tasers are more fun novelty than useful self defense. Especially since they need to charge the capacitor prior to discharge.

>>407519
>>407596
I agree with both of these posters.

DO NOT PULL ANY WEAPON ON ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PERFECTLY OK WITH KILLING

"non-lethal" weapons are actually quite lethal and if you don't treat them as such you're going to wind up accidentally killing someone via your stupidity. Like the fucking police do, every single day

>>407600

I agree 100% with what you're saying about the CCP. I also agree, do not point a gun at anyone you are not prepared to kill. BUT, do you really think it's a good idea for neckbeard OP to have a firearm?

>>407281
Go see /k/.

Save up a few hundred bucks for a decent pistol and a good holster and a CCW class.

Protect yourself like you mean it.

Just get some brass knuckles, OP.

Better yet, make your own.

>>407831
huh? if someone tries to mug me and steal my shit then they are scum and I have absolutely no problem defending myself, if they die as a result that's their problem.

>>407281
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802HbWkPc0E

+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__7AiL3nJ6U

that would hurt and scare most people.

>>407281

don't listen to these faggots OP. build this:

http://ultrakeet.com.au/write-ups/build-a-freakin-stun-baton

but instead of putting it into a baton, put the boost circuit into a wearable enclosure and then put the spark gap as a couple of studs on the knuckles of a glove. put the button on your palm. the intimidation factor alone will get people to leave you the fuck alone.

>>407281
dude are you serious? stop being a cheap fuck. You shouldnt skimp when it comes to your safety. You can buy a stun gun online for like $20.

Just go buy a gun, be a man.

>>407519
Or you could learn to fight hand to hand like a man.

>>409602
I second this.

>>409602
This has nothing to do with being a man.. Your hand aint gonna do shit against a bat, knife or any other weapon. This is all about having the bigger stick so you don't get fucked with.

>>409624
youve obviously never met a martial artist. he will stick that bat up your ass with one of your hands while strangling you with your other

>>407281

I shocked myself on a charged flash capacitor once... yeah it's not going to stop anyone. Well maybe for a second whilst they try and work out wtf just happened.

>>409677
Just like in the movies, ammarite?

Get yourself a weighted cane, OP. Say it is for your bad knee, use it as a mace if any lout tries to rob you.

>>409694
thats not even an exageration; they have moves that strangle you with your own hands. even seeing the raw striking power these guys have is bloody scary, one moment foot is on floor, next their kneeis almost touching your throat with you bent over in pain from your arm almost being torn off. using weapons makes it worse, your knofe becomes their knife and they actually know how to use one

>>409699

>thats not even an exageration;

one of the best things about UFC and MMA is all that phony shit is never used, because it is worthless.

keep on believing your movies and vidyas, though.

well personally i hope that OP doesnt live in CA where we have some really shitty self defence weapon laws, you need a permit to carry pepperspray past a certain size, its very difficult to get a CCW because we need to go to the head of sherriff to get one, you cant carry batons, throwing knives or weighted canes or anything that is considered martial arts. you cant carry a cane sword you cant have a switchblade or brass knuckles and for a gun im pretty sure only security guards and police officers can carry them with a permitt and we can only use them at work it is complete and utter bullshit.

>>409703
i agree with >>409699
they can do that but i doubt anybody is actually at that level and besides i think that a guy that doesnt know what to do when you have him in a headlock is pretty much screwed. My dad trained me full contact karate and ive never had to use it but wen the time comes to use i kno i wil make that little bitch suffer.

>>407288
Ok, thanks!

>>407419
I feel as though that could easily get back onto me if it got on their hands. I've been pepper sprayed before, its very hard to get off and hurts.

>>407519
I'm not 21 yet.

>>408178
Those are illegal where I live.

>>409226
I am very interested in this.

>>409276
*50 bucks and I'm poor.

>>409602
I practiced kung-fu for a few years. The problem is when the other dude has a knife, or when its 8 vs 1.

>>409677
you're obviously not a martial artist. Don't talk about martial arts if you have not practiced one, it makes you look like a child.

>>409763
Wait, I know there are bears in parts of CA. FFS, there's one on you flag. Are you saying it would not be legal for me to carry a bear spray canister on me? For anyone who doesn't know, it's a big super-powered kind of pepper spray. It's said to be better against a charging bear than most calibers of handgun. Fuck, I would love to give the next pig who pulls me over a shot in the face from mine.

>>410216
>I would love to give the next pig who pulls me over a shot in the face from mine.
Please do, because in jail you won't be able to post here and we will all be better off for it.

Idiot.

dismantle an alarm clock, get some sheet steel (the flat steel stuff, don't know word for it) only get small amount of sheet steel 20cm by 20cm.
glue the number pad onto one side, have the wires running make sure at least half of them are visible on the same side of number pad. connect them to battery, get your self some string or cord, drill two holes on the top side of the sheet steel tie the cord so it acts like a necklace, wear the alarm clock hidden under coat, or shirt (depending what you wear) then when someone jumps you you pull up shirt or coat revealing the alarm clock that looks like a bomb. have a switch so when you press it the clock screen begins to count down from say 15 seconds. now this fool is mugging you you reveal the ''bomb'' he freaks out (if he doesn't realize their is a timer begin counting down and hint to the numbers) this mugger is now running from you.
or just buy one of these pic relaated

>>410283
"RAGGLE FRAGGLE"

>>409763
Some counties do actually give out CCWs quite fairly, others are pretty much impossible to get unless you know the Sheriff personally (i.e. LA county). That said, as far as knife state laws are concerned, CA isn't that bad. For folding knives, the only real limitations are you can't carry balisongs or autos over 2". For manual folders there is no length limit so nothing stopping you from carrying a 5-6 inch folder as long as its not auto. Just be sure to keep it clipped to pocket and not riding in pocket as the latter can be seen as concealed which is illegal.

For fixed blades, as long as its visible no length limits here either. The only big limitation is that the blade can't have an edge on both sides (i.e. stiletto). So that said, legally if you wanted you could carry a single-edged sword. Sure people will probably call the cops are you'll get harrassed but "legally" its fine. Just like til a couple years ago you could legally open carry an unloaded AR-15 in public in CA until they made it conceal carry only.

As for shit like batons, brass knuckles, etc... are illegal in most states not just CA. Impact weapons generally are illegal in most places.

But all that said, city laws are a different story and depending on where, can and will be more strict. LA is an example, in which case folders are limited to 3" or less.

>>410118
>I practiced kung-fu for a few years.
>Other dude has a knife.
Pretty sure there are moves where you disarm an opponent, not to go all 'hurr durr go back to street fighter faggot' here but last time I checked that can be learnt without having to have 10 years of disciprine.

>>410118
>your obviously not a martial artist
and you know that because your telepathic, right? if you have ever met one of william cheungs students then you know what im talking about

>>409703
>MMA UFC
oh god, the shame. thats not martial arts, thats sport. what im talking about is military self defence, where its all about aggression and putting the other guy down, thats as real as it gets. mma and ufc is full of regulations, rules and people who arent putting their life on the line
i think you should stop watching tv

>>409763
Pepper spray or a gun are clearly the best choice in my opinion. Tasers and martial arts put you in easy striking distance of knives and multiple opponents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fo-zr7vARD8

Now you say that the laws in Cali don't permit over a certain size(2.5 oz)? In /diy/ spirit why not construct some sort of high power, hidden in your sleeve spray system with two 2.5 cans?

>>410118
You're clearly no martial artist either.

There's a simple trick to winning fights with multiple opponents: make sure the one you hurt, you hurt bad. Make the rest of them look at him/her and go "holy shit, (s)he's screaming on the floor, their legs pointing the wrong way and what the fuck happened to their arm?!" and they'll run off crying

However, if you can't handle that level of psychopathic violence, get mate/bear mace.

>>410490
>Make the rest of them look at him/her and go "holy shit, I'm pulling my knife/gun! POP POP done!"
FTFY

>>407582
This post made me chuckle... I hope it wasn't a serious post.

>>410628
FTFY?

and I'm from Northern England. Just because they have a sharpened piece of metal doesn't mean i can't cave their face in

>>407281
> with upwards of 7 witnesses

I got mugged when I was 22 (2 years ago) by a group of teenagers. About 16 years old I guesstimate. I fought with all my might, literally broke my hand on their faces, but I still ended up in the intensive care unit. There were no witnesses to the act itself, but I had to stumble more than a kilometer (0.6miles) in the general direction of the hospital before I found somebody willing to drive me the rest of the way. I encountered several people (6) that refused to help me along the way, before meeting the helpful soul. This all happened passing through an upscale neighborhood in Ghent, a modern western city with a decent friendly reputation and very low crime rates for a city of its size.

I know your pain and I know your rage.
I know your feels OP.

>>410698
This happened to me except I didn't fight back. All they wanted were my "coins". Who started punching you or them?

>>410720
They 'sneaked' up behind me, punched me in the back of my head and again in my face immediately after I turned around. I was wearing a pair of those in-ear headphones so I didn't hear them coming. No words were exchanged.

I myself would never willingly engage a physical altercation.

>>410698
>An upscale neighborhood in Ghent
>neighborhood in Ghent
>Ghent

Serieus?

>>410799
Jazeker. Wat juist doet u twijfelen aan de geloofwaardigheid ?

u guise are being pedantic and sophomoric, and engaging in fanciful propositions not practical as well.

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the truth is, it is a LOT easier to make a pointed piece of metal to stab someone with, than it is to make a electrical-shocking-thing that will stop them without also risking their lives.

and as for "get a gun", a pointy metal bit is way cheaper & easier in most countries.
,,,,,
And if you ever need to, you can toss the pointy metal bit ANYWHERE if you see the cops coming and you don't want to get caught with it. It is cheap, and therefore disposable. Which is another advantage a gun wouldn't have, even where they are easy to get.

one million Chinese can't be Wong

>>410640
your plan would work perfectly. If you live in a movie.
In real life though, the 8 guys wouldn't come at you one at a time. they would start kicking the shit out of you all at the same time, aint no way to block that.

>>411018
b-b-but what if he has super fast reflexes and becomes one with the tiger

>>407453
This. All it would do is briefly annoy the mugger. A camera taser is completely silent, too, so you can't scare him off with it; he won't know what it is until you use it.

On a side note, they're still fun to make/use on friends. One time I got a group of people to hold hands in a circle and we completed the circuit and all got shocked.

>>409176
yes they are scum and should be killed

>>411018
>ignore the rest, target the loudmouth


you never get jumped as just one rush, there's always a bit of pre-amble... If you skip the preamble, then you're already on the up n up.

>>412617

>>410490
I'm glad you enjoyed Ender's Game, but unfortunately >>410628 is what would happen

>>410336
I live in Portland, Oregon. The cops are mostly bullshit and will often take knifes over 3" even though there is absolutely no law or case theory or even memo that says its illegal.

Anyway, thanks for responding to my question guys, but I am just going to save up to buy a machete.

just do this

OP, if you don't want to kill someone in self-defense, get a baton and learn how to use it.

Otherwise, get a gun like everyone else has been saying.

>>412656
Assuming you actually are OP;

seems like you can't handle physical confrontation. Gun is better. You'll probably still lose against multiple targets though, unless you're absolutely prepared to pull the trigger.

Internet tough guy plz go home.

>>412675
>thinks you can't kill someone with a baton.
control is what is important no matter what you are armed with.

I can kill you with a word.

For those touting martial arts as a legitimate defense against a knife attack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7iJIpwX2pg#t=4m57s

A determined attacker with a knife WILL ALMOST DEFINITELY kill you. Planning on your ancient art of crane style knife defense is more than foolish.

>>412822
My name is a killing word.

screw you buddy! I'm the Kwisatz Haderach, not you!

>>412667
That might work in the UK but I feel like things would just get worse in the US.

>>413020
Not if you do the smart thing and run, get a better weapon or back up.
That or if you know how almost ignore the knife and quickly "subdue" the attacker before he even knows what you are doing. (read that as kill him in a literal heart beat if there is a opening [yes it is posable, no it is not easy and most people should stick with running])

>>410490
bump

>>412667
A show in America did a similar joke, the characters key to winning confrontations is to just yell loudly "SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND LET ME JACK YOU OFF". But I would not actually try that.

>>412675
My friend got one of those and It somehow broke. I don't know where to get a sturdy one.
Again, I can't legally carry a gun

>>412693
I'm athletic, have been in fights, and studied kung-fu semi-diligently when I was younger. I am 5' 10.5'' but 130 lbs. I would not win a lot of fights. I definitely am capable of winning many, but certainly not all. Especially with anything larger than 1:1 or with armed opponents.

>>413807
Why. That post is retarded. This is how you die.