/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>401642
>not OP
>sinus infection
>scared to death of doctors
Bump for massive interest.

>>401642
All I have is anti-bacterial remedies, not antibiotic.
1/2

>>401669
2/2

>>401671
Found an antibiotic possibility.
Bonus/2
See: nutmeg

>>401672
Forgot pic, sorry.

>>401669
Just what I need, a concoction to kill all of the bacteria in my intestines and not anywhere else. And make me stink.

>>401674
I believe this is topical. I DID say it's anti-bacerial, not anti-biotic...

Strep Throat here.

Finally sucked it up yesterday and went to the ER. Got some Amoxicillin and some nasty mouth wash shit that only numbs my throat for about 5 minutes.

Any way I can make a numbing type paste that lasts longer? Or something. They gave me no pain meds and Motrin isn't working.

I've tried salt water, hot sauce, mouth wash, etc. All the remedies on Google.

>>401674
Your intestines need bacteria to convert indigestible food into a more usable form. Also, if you kill all the bacteria that will leave nothing but fugi and will leave you with a massive candidiasis overgrowth.

Honey.

>>401687

Lemon. Make 4 parts. Suckle on 3 as you let 1 lie in water. Gargle and drink.

Also, Honey.

xylitol. plenty of sources, including some chewing gum, will help with killing the bacteria... not so much with the sore throat. xylitol is even showing good results mixing up your own nasal solutions for sinus infections.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC90255/

>>401647
What possible reason could you have to be afraid of doctors?

swallow your snot/ mucus/ flem.
contains natural anti biotics

OP, are you the guy who was talking about wanting to pull his 4 infected teeth yesterday? If so, I'm glad you took my advice about clearing the infection first because you can seriously quite easily die if you don't.

>>402765

>What possible reason could you have to be afraid of doctors?
I think by definition it'll be an irrational rear.

>>402765

Doesn't matter, there doesn't need to be a reason.

Person with an INSANE phobia of dentists here.

>>401703
it also increase calcium ion exchange which helps remineralization your teeth

>>403676

I can understand the phobia of dentists.

A drill in your mouth is fucking scary. Knowing that with one accidental sneeze you could jolt up, the drillbit skewering the soft fleshy bit beneath your tongue. It getting lodged so you can feel your flesh moving as the dentist gingerly tries to remove it.

I've still got a tiny bit of scar tissue under my tongue and I still go to that same dentist.

>>403675
>irrational rear
Are you implying that OP's ass is irrational?

>>403675

>>403711
>Are you implying that OP's ass is irrational?
Oops, apparently so.
>irrational fear

Antibiotics in the aquarium section.

I actually take a lot of zinc to avoid infections.

>>404088
Enjoy your zinc poisoning.

medfag here.

OP you are the reason people die of antibiotic resistant MRSA.

>>404092
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15496046

>>404106

microbi fag here and people like OP are the reason for prevalence of MRSA, not death caused by it.

>>404106
BioEngfag here
>antibiotic resistant MRSA
>mfw 'm' and 'r' already indicate antibiotic resistant.
that's reduntant
you're redundant

>>404106
>>404380
namefag related. diy remedies are the cause of the extreme prevalence and existence of many different strains of many different viri and bacteria.

OP is probably one of those idiots who don't get his/her kids vaccinated and put the rest of the population at extreme risk because hurr durrr 0.000000000000000000000001% chance of mental disease. Mental defect is more common in birth than it is a result of vaccinations.

>>404455
>that's reduntant
>you're redundant
post incorporates double redundancy
post will not fail

>>404460

This shouldn't have made me laugh as hard as it did.

Could inject urself with 1l conc. HCl. That'll kill those bloody microbes!

>>404458
>/her
>kids
what do you think this place is?

>>404458

prevalence of antibiotic strains is a result of overuse/inappropriate use of antibiotics more than anything.

using a DIY remedy or a prescribed remedy has nothing to do with it if it's used properly.

CBA to find the sources, but use of antibiotics in animal feed for example has been linked to higher incidence of antibiotic resistance.

>>404458
>hurr durrr 0.000000000000000000000001% chance of mental disease.

100% chance of nerve damage.
Depending on what parts of the brain are damaged, it could cause a number of different mental health problems, and nervous system disorders.
but it gets approved, because it probably won't kill you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNxQc4mkg90

>>404455

MRSA can be resistant to more than one antibiotic (vancomycin resistance for example), so saying antibiotic resistant MRSA can also imply Methicillin Resistant S. Aureus that is also resistant to more than one antibiotic.

>>405196
that video doesn't state how much mercury they used to show their findings.

A vaccine containing 0.01% of Thimerosal (the preservative containing mercury used in vaccines) can contain up to 25mg of mercury. While this is over the 0.1ug/kg bodyweight/day limit suggested by the EPA, over the period between vaccinations, it is not very significant.

Vaccines containing thimerosal are not approved for babies/pregnant women (in the expection of flu vaccines)

These facts combined with the use of non-Hg preservatives makes your point unrelated. Vaccines save countless lives, and a major contributing factor to their success is herd immunity.

If you don't want Hg poisoning, ask for non-Hg preserved vaccines. Don't endanger us all due to your ignorance.

>>405209
are you retarded or something?
25mg of mercury is lethal
stop putting that shit in everything

Don't endanger us all due to your ignorance.

>>405215
idiot look up your "facts" before refuting mine.

http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/hlthef/mercury.html

"The acute lethal dose for most inorganic mercury compounds for an adult is 1 to 4 grams (g) or 14 to 57 milligrams per kilogram body weight (mg/kg) for a 70-kg person."

25mg =/= 1g

>>404106
Noooooo. He has an infection so he should use an antibiotic. People using antibiotics attempting to treat a virus is the misuse of an antibiotic that you should be mad about.

as everyone knows mercury is heavy
it makes a very poor preservative because of this,
mercury settles to the bottom of the vial
concentrating the mercury to in excess of 50 times
what it is purported to be.
"welllll, it's not our fault the doctor didn't shake it up 6 times a day, like it said in the directions."
he just stuck the needle in the vial and sucked all the mercury off the bottom and injected it in an infant.
"ooops that wasn't very nice"

>>405226
no mercury in canadian childhood vaccines.

also that doesn't make vaccines bad, it makes the doctor administering it bad.

bad doctor =/= bad vaccine

don't use a straw man argument

>>405229
>bad doctor

you sniff a lot of mercury don't you
that would explain why you're so stupid
it rots your brain, dummy
don't blame doctors for making a mistake, when that error could have been prevented by
eliminating the risk-- stop using mercury

>>405238

it is eliminated by the availability of non-Hg preservatives. The risk can also be prevented by having a properly trained doctor.

having a vaccine that can be stored for long periods can outweigh the risks of having an incompetent doctor.

also by your argument anything with potential danger should be eliminated. Say bye-bye to cars, airplanes, food, recreational hunting, knives, etc.

"don't blame [people] for making a mistake, when that error could have been prevented by
eliminating the risk"

I thought we only put mercury in products that go to free clinics, and poor neighborhoods.

>405222
Not a medfag, but I'm guessing that the problem is using half-assed antibiotics that leave some bacteria alive that are now resistant.

>>405244
guns don't go around pumping lead into people all by themselves.
mercury doesn't find a way to sneak past security so it can jump into vaccines.
people kill people

>>405253

>people kill people so ban any use of mercury preservative in these life-saving vaccines!

not turning this into a gun debate, I'm saying you can't discredit using successful preservatives because of an incompetent doctor.

mercury in vaccines is often a necessary component to ensure a successful vaccination. When an alternate preservative can be used, it often times is used.

I would much rather have a tetanus booster containing thimerosal when I need it, than not having the option to have the shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywd_U1T9Ck0

Medfag reporting in...

Making your own real antibiotics is possible, but you will need live cultures, media, incubation equipment...

Aquarium antibiotics might work for certain bacterium, but that's why we typically culture and screen suspected bacterial infections for specific antibiotic sensitivities...

As far as helping a sore throat, I like to CHEW, as in masticate, and swallow 2x 325mg aspirin tablets. Not the chewable stuff, but the nasty-bitter-sour things... Almost immediate relief for up to 4 hours without numbing.

Good luck...

>>404106
medfag do I have a UTI or BPH
>pissing every 30min
>start/stop
>weak stream
>feel like pissing right after
>pressure in lower abdomen, lower back

inb4 chlamydia

...BPH or UTI...

I need an age to (more or less) rule OUT BPH... But it sould more like urinary tract, bladder, ureter,or kidney infection...

Either way, drink lots of water and see a fucking doctor.

>>405292
24 so i figured not PBH but Ive always had start/stop issues as long as I can remember and my once ironclad bladder is no longer so strong
healthy otherwise dont drink soda and shit except coffee
plus watching alot House hasn't settled my mind
going to dr next week only had symptoms for 2-3 days so I was waiting it out a bit

>>405285
On any allergy meds? Benadryl can trigger these very symptoms.

>>404088
>I actually take a lot of zinc to avoid infections.

about 20 years ago one of the drug companies made an over the counter cold medicine called something like "zinc defense" The product was so effective at killing the cold virus, that it cost the medical community an estimated 100 Billion dollars, before they removed it from the market.
Knocking out the virus before it spread, saved a lot of people from getting sick that year.
Colds and flu are big business.

You can easily boost your body's defenses, by planning your diet to obtain what it needs from natural sources.

Pharmacology fag reporting in.

>home made antibiotics

Are you really this stupid? Also all those people posting "herbal remedies," you forgot one of the many properties common to all of your cures:

- IS A PLACEBO.

>>405285
Is it in your lower back on both sides when you apply pressure where your kidneys are? Good chance it is a UTI especially if you feel burning while urinating. If you get dark urine you'll most definitely need to get antibiotics. A home remedy that usually works for less severe cases is cranberry juice, not the cocktail.

>>401687
Acmella oleracea
use the buds.

>>405566
>Implying you can't make aspirin at home

>>401687
If you have a sore throat and/or a cough that's making your throat raw, make some tea out of oregano

sounds gross, but just put a good dollop of honey and/or sugar to sweeten it up to make it more palatable

>>403648
Been doing this for 3 days. At first my throat got scratchy and irritated, then I started puking every time I swallowed it.

Thanks, dick.

>>405622
>my throat got scratchy and irritated, then I started puking every time I swallowed

don't try to take it all at once. just do a little at a time to practice controlling that gag reflex

>go to grocery store
>look for moldy cantaloupe
>something something I don't know culture it and do something to extract it from the mold
>you now have penicillin

>>405566
Many antibiotics are actually derived from natural sources. You should know this if you truly are a pharmacology major.

Granted there are many synthetic and semi-synthetic antibiotics that you can't produce at home without sophisticated equipment, but you can make Penicillin quite easily from certain molds.

Just because a remedy is labelled as natural doesn't mean it is not effective. If you want to be an effective pharmacologist, I'd suggest looking into this because there is quite a bit of money to be made in those markets.

Another thing is that for many minor viral infections,like the cold or the flu in young adults (excluding the particularly virulent strains like Spanish/H1N1 flus), no treatment is often needed, but a placebo effect can greatly help someone who "thinks" it helps them. A lot of people are drama queens who benefit from just the placebo effect.

>>401642
>"homemade antibiotics"
>mfw "antibiotics" are better described as "selective poisons"
>mfw OP is going to poison himself
>mfw OP will cause a simple bacterial infection treated for less than $100 in doctor's visit and prescription cost into $100,000 emergency room visit for a life-threatening case of self-poisoning
>mfw OP is the 2013 poster-boy for the Darwin Award
>mfw if OP survives, the courts will probably have him committed to a mental institution because he's a danger to himself and possibly others

For fuck's sake you moron, if you're poor then there are government medical programs, or at least use some online Canadian pharmacy to get real medication instead of potentially poisoning yourself, you fucking moron.

THERE ARE THINGS YOU DO NOT /DIY/ AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

>>405177
Good point. And I meant his kids. Thanks anon.

>>405195
It is absolutely a result of overuse/inappropriate use of antibiotics. However, that's not what this thread is about. Using a DIY method of "healing" just means people are taking placebos.

>>405196
Please read again what >>405209 said. Again, don't endanger intelligent people with your blatant stupidity. I must have nerve damage because I've had multiple vaccines. Herp.

>>405751
>THERE ARE THINGS YOU DO NOT /DIY/ AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
This. Don't try to do a medical professional's job if you haven't had the extra 12 to 16 years of schooling/instruction that is required to get those letters after your name. RN, OD, etc and especially MD doesn't mean "I graduated highschool and watched a crackpot youtube video about home remedies"

What is wrong with herbal remedies and the like? They were used for thousands of years. Did they somehow magically stop working when modern medicine came along?

>>405761
But I fixed my car once and I never went to car school.

Derp derp derp maybe I can find the cure for my hepatisis D- if I just roll around in the dirt for a while.

>>405787
No one has said anything about miracle cures. Stop being a child.

>>405785
Placebos. Most of the time the human body can do amazing things all by itself. However, there are times when a fully trained and fully qualified medical professional must help it along.

>>405792
>placebos
Have a nice life.

>>405792
If you are going to use that argument then there is no real way of knowing if modern medicines are just placebos or not.
>muh machines
Placebos.

>>405794
I will as long as anons such as yourself don't infect the rest of us with smallpox and the like.

Oh wait. That already happens because of unvaccinated idiots running around with unvaccinated children.

There is a good reason doctors get paid for what they do. Go suck on a lead block because it's on some obscure internet page that said it'll cure stupidity.

>>405798
>no real way of knowing if modern medicines are just placebos or not.
Try science

>>405801
>try science
>what is herbalism?

>>405801
>dat strawman

>try science
Herbalism is a science, m8.

>>405792
>>405801

many of the first medicines were discovered by isolating compounds from natural sources that had been used to treat diseases.

thus, herbal remedies led to modern medicine. While it is arguable that modern medicine may in fact be more effective that herbal alternatives, herbal remedies can not be completely discredited.


>infect the rest of us with smallpox and the like

for a biomed fag you must've taken a virology course at some point and definitely heard that smallpox has essentially been irradicated except for freezer stocks in CDC in the US and Russia.

>>405761

while there are things that you should consult a doctor for, there are others that don't necessitate it. For example, I bet you don't go to the doctor every time you get a little scratch? You likely wash the cut, maybe put polysporin on it and bandage it.

Also have we forgotten that this IS a DIY board? While it may not be advisable to treat yourself with homemade/alternative antibiotics, just having the knowledge of how to do so is interesting in itself.

>>401669
>no lemon

>>405810
>Herbalism is a science, m8
lul
Give /diy/ an example from a recognized *scientific* database where it talks about herbalism as a science. Try pubmed.org.

>>405835
>many of the first medicines were discovered by isolating compounds from natural sources that had been used to treat diseases.
Absolutely. And expanded upon. We aren't using many of the "first medicines" because they've been overused (eg penicillin.. Except for MRSA sometimes) and because they simply don't work nearly as well as modern medicine, as real science has proven.

Yes, all known strains are at BSL-4 facilities, the CDC in the US, and VECTOR in Russia. Let it be known that I was using smallpox as an example. Substitute measles as a better alternative.

Absolutely put a bandaid on a cut, don't waste the doctors time with that. OP however specifically mentioned antibiotics. A thread about how to /diy/ bandaids would be more appropriate. While we are on the topic of /diy/ness:
>polysporin
buyfag.

There is a reason you use polysporin compared to /diy/ alternatives, is there not?

>>405851
herbalism tested on humans*

>>405851

This is DIY though where pleasure is gained by doing something yourself even if it means getting something that isn't the best. That being said, it is now understandable why some here choose to use herbal remedies they can make themselves over other alternatives.

Also you just went against your own earlier argument by saying that herbal remedies are simply placebos. They may not work as well, but overkill is not always needed.
That being said, I always choose the modern pharmaceutical option over a herbal treatment simply because I believe there is a greater amount of stringency in the quality control.

Polysporin was also just an example to try and make the hypothetical cut seem worse.

DIY antibiotics, like I said previously, while not advisable can be very interesting and in some case beneficial for those asking for the information.

And no polysporin use for me. Too lazy and I never found it helped much.

>>405851
>>405851

This is DIY though where pleasure is gained by doing something yourself even if it means getting something that isn't the best. That being said, it is now understandable why some here choose to use herbal remedies they can make themselves over other alternatives.

Also you just went against your own earlier argument by saying that herbal remedies are simply placebos. They may not work as well, but overkill is not always needed.
That being said, I always choose the modern pharmaceutical option over a herbal treatment simply because I believe there is a greater amount of stringency in the quality control.

Polysporin was also just an example to try and make the hypothetical cut seem worse.

DIY antibiotics, like I said previously, while not advisable can be very interesting and in some case beneficial for those asking for the information.

And no polysporin use for me. Too lazy and I never found it helped much.

>>405757
>DIY method of "healing" just means people are taking placebos.

LOL

>eat a healthy diet
>don't take any drugs
>don't even take aspirin
>never get colds or flu
>friend died from flu shot
>7 others nearly died from that shit at the same time
>sorry, you can't prove it was the flu shot that killed him, 25 year old's can die from natural causes.

pharmaceuticals - not even once

>>405862
>Also you just went against your own earlier argument by saying that herbal remedies are simply placebos
They still are placebos. Placebos are meant to trick the body into thinking that it is getting help when it isn't. This causes the body to release hormones etc that it normally wouldn't release. Sometimes these excretions are beneficial to whatever is causing the problem in the first place.

For example, the body/pituitary could be tricked into releasing more TSH, leading to the thyroid secreting greater amounts of T3 and T4. T3 controls/affects metabolism, body temperature, and heart rate etc. A herbal placebo could be doing the "tricking".

>That being said, I always choose the modern pharmaceutical option over a herbal treatment simply because I believe there is a greater amount of stringency in the quality control.
Good reason

>DIY antibiotics, like I said previously, while not advisable can be very interesting and in some case beneficial for those asking for the information.
Interesting, absolutely, but with this knowledge comes great risk of doing more harm than help to the body, or even other people and other children.

I'm having posting issues, I'm out for a bit

>>405871
Sorry for your loss anon, and I'm glad the other 7 were fine, however you must look at how many people are unaffected by that same shot.

Many people don't realize that it only protects against one kind of flu. And natural causes CAN cause 25 year olds to die, just like babies can die from them as well. Try a google search, first.

Apple Cider vinegar ftw

>>405876
>Apple Cider vinegar ftw

a tablespoon in my dog's water bowl every day
never had heartworm, fleas, ticks, etc.
healthy and happy as can be
placebos lol.

brother in law covered his dog in poison, and still had fleas, and ticks. dog got cancer, suffered until he had it put down.

>>405881
animals != humans

NEXT

>>405901
Humans ARE animals, dingus.

>>405566
>herbal remedies
>all placebos

Nope. Some herbal remedies, yes, but some also have genuine health benefits - consider St John's Wort as an example.

>>405898
>triangles
>discussion about how vaccines are harmful

illuminati plz

>>405908
>St John's Wort as an example.

only if it's processed by a drug company in puerto rico and made into pills for prescriptions

it's no good fresh

>>405915
read the history of the food pyramid
it started out honest
now it's a fucking joke

>>405873


by your use of placebo, almost anything could be considered a placebo.

A vaccine is just "tricking" the body into thinking it is being invaded by a pathogen.

Antihistamines "trick" the body into thinking the allergen (or invader) has been cleared.

I'm not saying that herbal remedies are never placebos, but they are definitely not always placebos. I'm sure you'll agree that there are good remedies and bad remedies in both the herbal category as well as modern medicine category depending on their use.

And while there is great power in having knowledge of antibiotic use (and the potential misuse), that can't be a reason to label all transfer of antibiotic knowledge as bad. If that were the case, we wouldn't be able to share knowledge of many fields of engineering, chemistry, biology, etc. because there are times where the knowledge could be used to harm.


>>405917
Still would be considered a herbal remedy. At this point, you're blurring the line between herbal and pharmaceutical.

>>405927
>you're blurring the line between herbal and pharmaceutical.

what line? drugs don't come from outer space
aspirin literally grows on trees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aspirin

morphine comes from the same place as heroin
cocaine comes from plants
caffeine comes from coffee beans
a lot of medicines come from plants, roots, bark, leaves, oils

>>405944
>a lot of medicines come from plants, roots, bark, leaves, oils

but they can't patent a natural substance,
so rather than selling it as a natural substance,
they fuck it up in a lab adding unnatural shit to it to make it patentable, and then they sell it

>>405933
the line between natural drugs (essentially herbal origins) and synthetic drugs (man-made)

For example penicillin and amoxicillin.

One is natural the other is semi-synthetic.

>>405950

>they fuck it up in a lab adding unnatural shit to it to make it patentable, and then they sell it

while true that they make tons of money on it, if all the unnatural "shit" they added didn't make it more effective they wouldn't make any money regardless.

don't confuse business ethics with medicinal origins

>>405960
>don't confuse business ethics with medicinal origins

true in some cases.
add a little of this and a little of that to aspirin and you get a new stronger aspirin - tylenol

as for ethics. how many known cures are sitting on a shelf in a pharmaceutical company lab, waiting to be synthesized (25 years) while millions die from the disease.
beyond ethics, this is depraved-indifference
a crime murder

Stanislaw Burzynski prolly knows a thing or two bout that

Just buy fish antibiotics. They're the same thing doctors give you but are cheaper and unregulated. Research it.

>>405751
Antibiotics cannot poison the body. It's literally impossible. Antibiotics attack the cell walls of bacteria. They prevent new bacteria from forming walls, thus reproduction ends.

>>406411
>Antibiotics cannot poison the body. It's literally impossible.

They can and no it's not.
Streptomycin is one example of an antibiotic which can cause damage to you even at therapeutical doses.
Besides, everything is poison if the dose is high enough.

>Antibiotics attack the cell walls of bacteria.

Some of them do that, but not all.

Some natural antibiotics include:

Carob powder
Grapefruit seed extract
Honey
Molkosan, derived from concentrated whey
Olive leaf extract (calcium elenolate)
St. John's Wort (hypericum)
Tea tree oil

What is this shit thread? What the fuck? Garlic? Is this 1894? Seriously you people are retarded... Op is asking for "HOMEMADE ANTIBIOTICS", not "HOMEMADE SHIT YOU ATE BEFORE THE ERA OF ANTIBIOTICS"... Wow, just wow...
Only one faggot was on the right track: >>405268
So what you want to do OP is something along these lines:

1) You need a microscope (kinda) and a book on fungus
The microscope can be pretty shitty, but the book has to be good. Not some shitty book on blooming mushrooms you find in the forest!
2) find some information on what medium are normally used for the specific Penicillium
species you want to grow to get dem antibiotics
3) make that medium..
4) get spores of that species of Penicillium - you propably want to order online, but you can also try and get lucky by exposing the medium in your kitches/whatever (this is when the microscope comes in handy - to figure out if you've got the right one)..
5)incubate
6) extracting the needed chemical could be tricky, I have so ideas, but do some research yourself
7) ENJOY YOUR HOMEMADE ANTIBIOTICS, instead of the shit people posted in here

Also what the fuck are "natural antibiotics"? So when a fungus make it it's not "natural"... Or is it because you purify it and extract it? Some people are so fucking dense...

Google "penicillin tea".

>>406411
>Antibiotics cannot poison the body. It's literally impossible.

>>407045
>Implying that antibiotics don't exist in nature, and have to be man made under a microscope.

>Implying that antibiotics are the right thing to do in the first place.

YOUR body makes antibodies. If you use antibiotics, some are known to damage your immune system. All of them have side effects, and many people are allergic, and can die from taking antibiotics.

Support your own immune system. Save antibiotics as a last resort, and only after you've confirmed that they work against what you have.

>>407154
no your body doesn't make antibiotics, pleas read more about immunology about talking about things you have no ideas about. I know the word "anti" is both in antibiotics and antibodies and can therby confuse someone uneducated, despair not, it will get easier eventually...
I know the words antibacterial and antibiotics sometimes are used as synonyms, they are though not the same!

Also no chemicals are "made under a microscope", and like I said, yes of course antibiotics "exist in nature" read my fucking post!
Instead of giving OP some retarded home-cooked ideas about how to "make da immun-sumthing stronk" I actually told him how one could make antibiotics! and thereby actually responded to his question, as the only on in this thread!

also pleas don't embarrass yourself further by responding, you are the core of the "herpa derpa nature=good, made in lab=bad" - thinking people, which together with religious people are the true cancer of the world. Luckily most of you are uneducated and have no say in anything that matters, contrary to religious people...

If your really serious about making your own antibiotics you could get some lab equipment and some chemicals online and actually learn what your doing with the chemistry. This is a tall order and not recommended unless you are actually really interested in learning this branch of chemistry. I have no idea what chemicals you would need or which formulas you would need to follow but many antibiotics are based around the beta lactam molecule, so order up a big ol' batch of beta lactam and have at it.

>>407226
That is a retarded suggestion. Instead of jumping into very complicated organic chemistry, why not just use the fact that some Penicillium species produces penicillin as a secondary metabolite? As I said, learn some basic about growing fungus, buy a microscope to identify the species?

>>407228
You're just stuck on the whole penicillin thing, I'm saying that there are different antibiotics and there are different ways of making them including completely synthetically.

>>407226

If you want to synthesize something, starting from the first sulfa drugs would be much, much easier. Cheaper, too.

>>407228

There are several molds which produce antimicrobial chemicals. Not all of them are safe to use, so correct identification would be important. While I know nothing about identifying molds, I suspect that it can be tricky.

Another thing is that if you want something which can be called a drug, you need to have a relatively good idea how much active chemical your stuff contains.

>>404088
do you have a lot of , erm, semen?
I make a 1/2 gallon of yogurt a week, that's bioticy

>>407243
Yeah, I wouldn't down a batch of something I made in the kitchen unless I know exactly what I had made, how much to take, which disease it is suppose to treat etc... etc...

>>407202
you went full retard there.

i said YOUR body makes antibodies

>>407202
You actually made me lol with how much you put into that response without even reading what you were replying to. Thank you!

>>407154
>YOUR body makes antibodies.
>>407202
>no your body doesn't make antibiotics, pleas read more about immunology about talking about things you have no ideas about. I know the word "anti" is both in antibiotics and antibodies and can therby confuse someone uneducated, despair not, it will get easier eventually...
>I know the words antibacterial and antibiotics sometimes are used as synonyms, they are though not the same! hurrr hurrrr hurrrr hurrrr hurrr hurrrr hurrrr hurrr hurrrr

I didn't say antibiotics, dipshit. learn to read before you embarrass yourself. I said antibodies. You were dead on in saying that the two words were similar. you obviously confused them yourself, but I didn't. asshat

As an adult human, you have three to four pounds of beneficial bacteria and yeast living within your intestines. These microbes compete for nutrients from the food you eat. Usually, the strength in numbers beneficial bacteria enjoy both keeps the ever-present yeasts in check and causes them to produce nutrients such as the B vitamins.

However, every time you swallow antibiotics, you kill the beneficial bacteria within your intestines. When you do so, you upset the delicate balance of your intestinal terrain. Yeasts grow unchecked into large colonies and take over, in a condition called dysbiosis.

Yeasts are opportunistic organisms. This means that, as the intestinal bacteria die, yeasts thrive, especially when their dietary needs are met. They can use their tendrils, or hyphae, to literally poke holes through the lining of your intestinal wall. This results in a syndrome called leaky gut. Yeasts are not the only possible cause of this syndrome. Some scientists have linked non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) such as naproxen and ibuprofen to the problem. Given their ability to alter intestinal terrain, antibiotics also likely contribute to leaky gut syndrome.

In addition to possibly causing leaky gut syndrome, I believe that parasitic yeasts can also cause you to change what you eat in that they encourage you to binge on carbohydrates including pasta, bread, sugar, potatoes, etc. So, it should come as no surprise that weight gain counts as one of the telltale signs of antibiotic damage and subsequent yeast overgrowth.

By altering the normal terrain of the intestines, antibiotics can also make food allergies more likely. An array of intestinal disorders can ensue, as well. Sadly, most doctors claim ignorance concerning their patients’ intestinal disorders rather than admit that the drugs they themselves prescribed actually caused the disorders to begin with. ---Dr. John I. Pitt, The Genus Penicillium, Academic Press, 1979

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Okay, okay no need to write the same thing 3 times.
Yeah that was embarrassing, nerveless the points I made still stand:
This is the shittiest thread I've ever seen - the OP asks about "homemade antibiotics" and people go full retard with shit like "antibotics r evil maaan, because you have good and bad bacteriaz, and good bacteriaz die to... eat garlicc instead"... What the fuck? The man asked a DIY question, and I was the only one actually responding to his request (not completely true but I respond to the others next).

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Yeah identification of fungus can be tricky, but not impossible with a good book, some practice, and a cheap-ish microscope. I still think that it is the only way to go about this problem, the synthesis, is much more complicated...

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Yes there are other antibiotics, of which all could in theory be synthesized. But like I just said, if this is to be a realistic project at home, I think getting the right fungus to grow, in the right environment, to make it produce penicillin, is the way to go....

You can make sulfanilamide pretty easy, only need aniline, concentrated sulfuric acid and ammonia. That shit saved many lives before beta-lactam mass-production started.

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apology accepted.

Although inadvertently, you raised a relevant point, by demonstrating how easily people can be confused by ever changing medical terminology.
Whereas at the time the word antibiotic was first coined, and for many years to follow, the term antibiotic referred only to naturally occurring antibacterial agents, and specifically excluded agents which were synthesized.

Today, and as evidenced in this thread, many people believe just the opposite, that an antibiotic is only something that is synthesized in a lab, which is just not true. The majority of all antibiotics in use today (2013) are natural, not synthetic.

Where you correctly pointed out that antibiotic, is synonymous with antibacterial, and antimicrobial in the usage of these terms today. You are incorrect in stating that they are not the same. Antibiotics are indeed antibacterial agents. Etymologically speaking the definitions of these words have expanded over the years, rather than being made more restrictive or clarified, as you have implied.

Natural antibiotic agents are all around you. They can, and should be used to prevent illness. Once you are sick, there are restrictions that apply to the use of antibiotics in the treatment of illness that should be adhered to.

Coincidentally, the CDC website has lists of warnings, and instructions for patients, doctors, and other health care related industry individuals cautioning about the over use of antibiotic drugs, and the damage they have caused...

“The threat of untreatable infections is real. Although previously unthinkable, the day when antibiotics don’t work is upon us. We are already seeing germs that are stronger than any antibiotics we have to treat them.”

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work out like mad. run or cycle until you sweat.
and regularly so.

i've struggled with chronic sinusitis for 2 years, and ever since i started commuting on my bike regularly (and it's winter here), it's gone.

here's my explanation:
standard, first-line medication for sinusitis is an adrenaline-like substance (not antibiotics, there seems to be no indication that they are effective at all for sinusitis). adrenaline opens up all airways by reducing the swelling of the mucosa, and thus the main reason for sinusitis (obstruction of the sinus venting canals) is fixed. well, if surrogate adrenaline is the first-line treatment, the real adrenaline can't be that bad, right? so all you have to do is get your adrenaline up occasionally.

disclaimer:
i'm a med student, but this is not something i have learned in med school or ever heard about at all, i have pieced it together from basic knowledge about physiology and personal experience.