/diy/ - Do It Yourself

There was a stream not far from my house that flowed into a huge river, both of which are notorious for being fucking hard to catch fish from. Occasionally, I'd feel in a foot long trout and eat well, but more often than not, I was picking out brook trout from the stream. The trout I'd take from the river were like steak, though. Fucking delicious.

But, one year, I found myself hungry. My father was working all the time, and he picked up a horrible wench who couldn't prepare food if her life depended on it, so there was never food in the house. The first time I hunted out of necessity is still a vivid memory. I went rabbit hunting with a slingshot, and bagged a large hare that I ate right on the mountain ( a beautiful white snowshoe hare, largest I'd ever seen. Still in it's winter moult). Food on the mountain was plentiful, and nearly untouched, since hunters stuck to well-worn paths and left the hills pristine. But, soon slingshots weren't enough. I couldn't reliably kill anything from 20 meters away, and with the fall season coming up, I'd have to take as much as I could for the winter.

So I made a bow.

I knew very little. about making bows. I knew very little about anything I was doing.

I knew how to identify trees, though. I found many mountain yew trees, all too scraggly to be used for a stave. Walking along the river one day, I found a sturdy Juniper tree that I though would make a good bow. As some bow makers say, I "could just see the bow in the wood". I cut the tree, and carved the stave into what I assumed would be a good shape. The draw weight ended up being about twice as much as I could possibly pull, but after a solid few days of practice, I was shooting it with ease - shooting arrows I made from birch wood and turkey feathers, no less.

The bow opened up a world of opportunity for me. I was pulling up to ten animals a day, between grouse, hare, turkeys, etc.. I also froze several buckets of huckleberries, and gathered a good pail of hazelnuts for the winter. The autumn was a beautiful time of year in that area, and also the most plentiful.

And one day, I found an old, abandoned logging road. And on that road, I found a cabin.

>>398459
>>398467
>>398469
You have at least one avid reader, Bushwalker, please do continue :D

By that point, I was hiking up to the cabin in the morning, making myself a fresh bow by lunchtime (self-bows have a tendency to break), and putting an animal in the pot by dinner. It was an incredible lifestyle that I'd love to do again.

I guess that didn't really go anywhere or anything, but I guess now's where I'm open to questions. I've built pack frames, backpacks, bottles, cups, fishing line, flies, and everything under the sun from everything under the sun. I'll describe, start to finish, any project you're interested in.

>>398471
How did your father and his wench react to you just leaving all day? Depending on your age, it could be rather frightening to have your child off in the mountains all day, no matter how long they've lived there.

>>398473

At first, he wasn't keen of the idea. My dad always made sure I was back by dark, and all that usual stuff. He bought bear mace and some other things with my "safety" in mind (though I told him a kilo of pasta would go much farther). He eased up over the years, but I'd started at the age of 14 or 15. Probably the best reaction I got was bringing a sack of birds home over my shoulder. They weren't too happy about that, and made me prepare them all outside, haha. After that incident I built a smoker for most of my meat.

>>398475
What is the rough area where you live? It sounds like a wonderful place to go to just....get away.

>>398476

Central British Columbia.

It truly is a great place. Lots of small little towns, lots of huge lakes and big mountains. I've since moved for work, since the only real jobs around there are hard to get into.

>>398476

Please don't ask OP this, it's best to keep places like what OP grew up in pristine, just knowing places like that exsist should be enough without visiting them

I love BC. Prettiest province in Canada.

I would be VERY interested in backpacks and pack frames with as much detail as you're willing to tell, OP. Also very cool of you to do this.
Did you make clothes? Tanned leather, etc?

>>398577

There were a few times I've had to build my own pack, where I've been deep in the woods and found myself needing to pack something out.

It is pretty simple. I just cut wood, usually cedar, into roughly 3/4" poles, and cut the to about the length from the top on my shoulder to just above my butt. Then, I'd put two poles at the top, and put either two horizontal poles, or two crossed poles, in the center of the square for support. To keep them together, I'd usually just lash them with whatever cordage I had available, anything from spruce roots to strips of my shirt, and glue them together with pine tar as well. The bottom platform is secured to the frame both horizontally and a diagonal section of pole, since this is what takes most of the weight.

The triangular variation (pic related) is quicker to make and are pretty strong, but they're not all that comfortable.

To make the straps, I used braided cordage, if I had the time, or I just cut my shirt into straps. Shoulder straps go from the top pole to the just above the bottom pole, and sometimes I'd make a third strap I could tie around my waist.

I'll talk about animal hides in the next post.

>>398823
I am interested in this thread

my body hole is ready

>>398823

Totally forgot to add what I used as the actual pack.

Sometimes I wouldn't need a pack, since I just needed to pack around firewood or whatever, but the quickest way to make a pack was to find a large dead birch tree. The birch tree rots from the inside out, so the inner wood is really easy to get out. From there, I'd just fold over the bottom and stitch it up to make a kind of basket that I can affix to the frame. When hunting, I'd sometimes use a burlap sack to take my kills home, so that would occasionally be the pack.

As for animals and their hides, I always tried to utilize animals the best I could. I didn't save squirrel skins, but I did save their tails for making fishing lures. At first, when I skinned an animal, I just let the skin dry into rawhide after fleshing it out. Eventually, I learned about tannins and read about brain tanning. I tried both of them.

Rawhide is pretty useful on its own, but it's hard to work with on any thick-skinned animal. Brain tanning is a traditional method of preparing hides, where you mix the brain of the animal with warm water, then work it into the hide. Some people smoke it after braining it, but I've found it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. This makes a very soft, supple hide that's great for making clothing and stuff out of.

Tanning with tannins is a bit more work. Tree bark contains very high amounts of tannins. Hardwoods are usually used for this process, but I've never tried using a softwood bark. To extract it, you have to chop up the bark as finely as you can and boil it. You're left with this very dark, astringent solution that you can soak hides in overnight to tan them. You're left with a nicely coloured, reasonably soft hide.

I did sometimes make clothing out of it, but I never really wore it outside of the woods. More often than not it went to making tools and the like.

What's your body composition like? Everything healthy?

Ever had to treat a bad wound?

>>398840
and uh, what are you wearing?

oh that sounds like a bad wound, what did you do then? And then what did you do?

great thread op

>>398840

I was pretty much climbing a mountain everyday, so I was pretty fit. However, I was underfed, which is what really drove me into the hills to begin with. I had a very low fat content (could see all of my ribs) until I moved away from home.

I have had a good few wounds. I once fell onto a rock slide, where the rocks were jagged and sharp. Just washed the cuts in the creek and took it easy for a few days. One day I was hiking up along a small stream, which was absolutely covered in rose bushes and brambles, and I was kind of bottlenecked into it, and my legs got pretty shredded.

Nothing really life-threatening, but a lot of risk for infection and shit.

>>398905

Forgot my trip. This is me.

What was the fishing line made out of? And the flies? How successful were you with them?

>>398908
Any general tool making tips? How to make basic tools from supplies and things like that?

>>398927

I had the luxury of using an old spincast rod most of the time, but I never took it with me when I went hiking. I just used thin cord to fish in the creek, sometimes twine or mason's line. Self-tied flies were made out of whatever fur or feathers I could find, usually just trying to imitate river moths. When it came to fishing in the little creek, I almost never came out without a fish.

If I found myself in the woods without a line or hook or anything, I would take a spruce root and split it down the middle for my line, and make a hook out of some hardwood (or bone if I'm lucky enough to come across it). I didn't usually tie flies on wooden hooks, but I sometimes tied a tuft of feathers or something, since they were prone to breaking after a few uses. If I had a wooden hook, I'd use bait first. The best bait was ant larvae, which got me a fish 100% of the time I used them. Any insect I found made good bait.

>>398930

What kind of tools are we talking, here? Hunting implements, cutting tools?

>>398927

I had the luxury of using an old spincast rod most of the time, but I never took it with me when I went hiking. I just used thin cord to fish in the creek, sometimes twine or mason's line. Self-tied flies were made out of whatever fur or feathers I could find, usually just trying to imitate river moths. When it came to fishing in the little creek, I almost never came out without a fish.

If I found myself in the woods without a line or hook or anything, I would take a spruce root and split it down the middle for my line, and make a hook out of some hardwood (or bone if I'm lucky enough to come across it). I didn't usually tie flies on wooden hooks, but I sometimes tied a tuft of feathers or something, since they were prone to breaking after a few uses. If I had a wooden hook, I'd use bait first. The best bait was ant larvae, which got me a fish 100% of the time I used them. Any insect I found made good bait.

>>398930

What kind of tools are we talking, here? Hunting implements, cutting tools?

can you tell more about that cabin?
in what shape was it when you first found it, did you have to repair it...
did anyone give you trouble for using it?

>>398940
cutting tools, axes, hammers. Anything like that.

>>398944

It was pretty cool how I found it. I've hiked the entire area around it, and been on top of the mountains in the area, and actually looked at all the valleys, and saw no indication that there would be a cabin there. But one day, I was just exploring, and came across it. There was a logbook there where visitors would record if they visited it, and according to the book, the cabin was over fifty years old when I found it. It had a couple pack rats, and there was a hole in the roof, but I patched it all up, and replaced a broken skylight with plexiglass. The window glass was wrapped up and placed in a corner, which I figured was for the best. I just left wooden windows on there. I cleaned the place up and built some furniture for it. Overall it was in excellent condition, and it was a great size. It was right next to a meadow, too.

>>398945

Well, that gets into stone working. Assuming you don't bring stock steel with you into the woods, you'll need to work with some stones. It isn't quite as hard as it is made out to be. Flint and chert are the two most commonly used stones, but if you can't find them, you can actually use quartz, though it isn't nearly as easy to work with. You'll need to get the stone into a good size to start off. Just hitting the stone along the grain will get some good flakes. From there, you can start by pressure flaking an edge onto it, which is just pressing down on the stone to make an edge. You won't be making big daggers at first, but you'll be able to make something that you can gut a fish with or scrape up tinder for a fire.

>>398959

Axes are a bit tricky, since you need a fairly large piece of workable stone to make one. You'll want a good, thick stone to make one. In the end, you'll be able to chop through small trees with ease, especially pine and other softwoods. This is a bit more ambitious than a little skinning blade, but it's a much thicker stone, so it won't be quite as delicate.

Hammers can be made in much the same way in the picture, just use a big chunk of granite.

>>398967
Thank you!

>>398459
How did your father land a mate? I have been trying all summer to no avail. :(

>>398967
are you les stroud?

Can you describe your method of smoking meat? I live on land that has a large pond that I fish out of, but I've never gotten into smoking meat.

>>399130

By being a retired professional athlete with a high paying job. Sorry.

>>399170

I make a tripod of poles and make racks on it, then cover it with either pine boughs or a tarp, depending on what I have on hand. Then, I get a good fire going down to a hot coal bed, and throw my wood onto it. My favorite to use was cedar. Never use any softwoods like pine or spruce, since they'll ruin the meat.

The meat should have as much surface area as possible. Score fish as pictured. They smoke pretty well. With other animals, cut the meat into thin strips. If you want to smoke a large part of meat at once, rather than smoke strips, it's much longer and time consuming.

Usually takes an afternoon of burning to get a full rack smoked.

>>398828
Did you ever make anything out of birch bark? It's a neat material and it has antibacterial properties so putting your food in it makes it last longer.

I bet this guy was finding as much food as you were.

http://youtu.be/FPbz5TDy6fs

I think y'all will like this story, too:
"For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact, Unaware of World War II"

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html

>>399225

Forgot trip. I'm bad at tripfagging.

>>399247

I made lots of things from birch bark. Made a few arrow quivers, some baskets, and even some shelters from the stuff.

>>399252

That guy did so laughably bad. He did everything wrong from the get-go.

>>399269
>That guy did so laughably bad. He did everything wrong from the get-go.

Can you elaborate on certain parts if you have watched it all? What he was doing wrong or could have done better.

Obviously if he was legally allowed to kill the large game he probably wouldn't have had so much issue, but small game hunting seemed to be his folly.

>>399281

For starters, he had a lake full of fish available to him, and only one rod and line. The first thing I would do is set up several set lines for fish to maximize my chances for meat. I only ever saw him using that rod, though. When it came to rabbit snares, those weren't done right. There was no discernible rabbit run at all, and so it was pointless to just set up a random snare - especially if it isn't choked off at all to force the animal through. He didn't catch a single rabbit because of all that. His best source of meat, porcupine, are ridiculously easy to hunt. If he spent a couple days just walking around, he'd see a hell of a lot more porcupine up in the trees, which make very easy targets when you have a gun to shoot em with.

When it came to the amount of gear he took, I thought it was ridiculous. When he packed up to move, he could hardly walk under the strain. He actually had two firearms, as well, which seems pretty dumb since he only ever used the shotgun (and he would only need to use a shotgun).

He chose to spend time and energy building a lean-to when he had a perfectly fine tarp to sleep under, which doesn't make much sense when you're not hauling in the food to support yourself.

I don't think killing a moose would have made the difference for him. I'd have to question if he would have the ability to prepare the meat to make it last.

He also points to moose tracks shit and says "Looks like a bear". He had incredibly insufficient knowledge to try something like that at all.

>>398459
How do you life now? do you go to school, or do you work?
How does one learn to hunt? do you just walk around untill you see an animal and than shoot it?
When i go backpacking trough easter europe forrests i sometimes spot animals.
If i go running in the night and go through some farming fields just out of the city, rabbits,hairs and marters and "house cats that became wild" run away around me all the the time, sometimes just a few meters away from me

>>398467
So the hardest thing for me with making my own arrows was finding straight ones. Any suggestions?

>>399317

Right now I'm working in a mine, saving up for university.

I learned to hunt on my own. I've never hunted the way I do with anyone else (bow and arrow, spear, slingshot, etc). The first thing to do is to learn how to walk in the woods, which most people pick up with time. If you're walking quietly and smoothly, you'll see a ton more animals than you normally would, and sometimes you'll catch animals doing things you wouldn't see otherwise. Ever see porcupines mating?

Hunting for me involved a lot of observing signs of animals, like tracks, signs of feeding, nutshells from squirrels, mating calls, etc. I knew exactly where to find animals in my well-traveled areas. However, just walking until you see an animal can be pretty effective, too. Grouse are known to fly away when spooked, and if you've ever heard a grouse take off, you know it's pretty loud. But, if you're not a quick shot, you'll lose it, or have to stalk it a ways anyway. I wouldn't just plan to come upon big game animals, I'd always stalk them.

>>399322

Get green wood and heat it up over the fire, then work the bends out of it. Wood is very workable when it's still green. This is why bow wood is seasoned before it's used, to prevent setting.

>>399328
did you ever used spears?

>>399358

Yep, I used a 3 foot throwing spear for a while. It was nice because it was always at the ready, but it had a pretty large range of motion and a pretty short effective range.

I experimented with atlatls as well, but they're large and cumbersome in woodland.

>>399384
and did you ever use those "throwing sticks"? are they effective?
what kind of points did you use for your arrows and spear?
did you ever had trouble with the law for hunting?

>people cant see this is fake

hows it feel making shit up on the internet, faggot?

Any tips on dealing with mosquitoes? I hear they can get pretty mean up there in the summer. I imagine being out innawoods all day and sleeping in cabins and makeshift shelters would subject you to a lot of bites.

>>399269
could you explain how to make a decent quiver? i've been wanting to make one for a while

>>399615

me too. quivers are cool.

>>399225
Do you have a collage of these drawings (pic related)?

>>399406
sounds to me like the plot from alone in the wilderness. but ive only skimmed the thread.

>>399406
Hell, most of his tips aren't incorrect, so who cares?

Where does school fit in in all this?

>>399398

I assume by throwing stick you mean atlatl.

A lot of the time, I didn't put a head on my arrow, just sharpened the wood. When you're dealing with sub-5lb animals, you don't really need massive hemorrhaging to kill them. It wasn't too hard to find metal to use for my broadheads, though. Sometimes I'd pound a spoon flat and sharpen it to make a head.

I did most of my hunting by the book, but there was only one CO for the entire WMU I lived in, so I never had any reason to fear running into them while I was out hunting, especially since I'd only ever seen two other people on my mountain.

>>399406

You're one of those city slickers, eh?

>>399471

Mosquitoes don't bother me all that much, but a smoky fire will keep them away. If you let the smoke smell get right into your clothing, then most bugs will leave you alone.

>>399615

Quivers aren't all that complicated. They're just a tube with with a cap on one end. Using hides will make a long-lasting quiver, but it's best if they're still pretty tough, so brain tanned hides aren't good for this. Just make sure it's just a bit longer than 1/2 your arrows, because you don't want a large range of motion when you go to draw an arrow. Quivers aren't great for hunting, since they tend to rattle and get stuck on brush if you're moving. What I do is just hold all my arrows in the same hand as my bow (http://youtu.be/NOpOqgotJZc).).

>>399623

Just drawing them as I go.

>>399630

I spent most school days at school, but it only takes up six hours of the day. I woke up at about daybreak, and went for an early morning hunt before school (Woke up at about 4 AM, bus arrived at 7 AM). I was able to get most homework done in class, so I didn't have much work to do at home (except at exam times, which fucking sucked). I'd get home from school at about 4 PM, where I'd prepare any meat I bagged that morning, or go on another hunt/gathering. Morning and evening are prime hunting times anyway.

is your name Les by chance?

>>399680
Shit i didn't even think about holding the arrows in the hand with the bow. Thanks!

>>399258
This is the most amazing story I've read in a long while.

>>399680
your one of those shit eating faggots who gets off on making shit up, arent you?

i know my shit, and i can tell a phoney from legit people

and your phoney

>>400241
Can you point to what specifically exposes him as a fraud, as well as provide your own credentials and document their authenticity if possible?

>>400243
where is ops credentials other than just watching a few documentaries and googling some shit?

the way he talks its as if he is just parroting others, nothing he has typed has indicated that its his own experience.

>>400246
Burden of proof is on you. If you have proof that OP is lying then feel free to present it; otherwise please stop shitting up the thread.

>>400246
So what?

Even if he was a trap, his thread is cool and what he talks about is super seducing.

Go on OP, you are doing a good job.

Related, a manga about hunting and survival: http://www.mangapanda.com/suicide-island

>>400257
not how it works

burden of proof is on op, he is the one claiming to know his shit, when all he does is parrot

put your trip back on

>>400259
>calling someone who is lyinga trap

you newfags need to shut the fuck up

the guy is making shit up and can potentially get people killed with his false advice.

>>400262

Fuck off.

English is not my primary language and you perfectly understood me.

Tell me how his few posts can harm people? I have not seen a post about how to face a bear yet.

>>400263
no, you fuck off. if you cant type english properly, then learn to do it before you embarrass yourself, newfag.

>posting a link to a shitty childs fantasy cartoon anime shit like its actually helpful

confirmed for 12 years old

>>400246
I was wondering what exposed him. The fact that what he says resonates with what other outdoorsmen have experiences is hardly proof of him parroting. I asked not to pin you, I asked because it would probably be a valuable piece of information how to recognise that OP, who seems credible enough for a city dweller like me, is just bullshitting.

Also, where and how did you gain the expertise that allowed you to recognise op as a bullshitter?

>>400264

That has to be the best joke I've ever heard on this website.

I made a little mistake while writing, so what? I study in English and work in English, that happens, deal with it. If you start discriminating people because they don't speak as well as you do then you're just an intolerant guy and you're not even worth arguing with.

Considering the manga, you haven't read it so stop criticizing things you don't know.

>>400268
by experiance, somthing op is lacking, which is obvious.

>>400269
fuck off speak english, stop thinking that linking faggot child cartoons makes you more credible when its just fiction bullshit

Good job, you all ruined this thread.

gg no re

>>400278
>by experience
Example?

>>400340

I really should have posted this yesterday. Maybe then you, and any others, wouldn't have been sucked into this child's bullshit.

It's the weekend. This is what happens. Babby has a hard time pissing in an ocean of piss, because /b/ doesn't respond as well to cut/uncut and athiest threads as before, and cuckold threads are banned in /pol/, so he comes to a more mature board to start shitting all over himself to see who bites.

As someone who lives in a rural area and has had experience being innawoods, I haven't seen any issues with anything OP has said that make me question the validity of his statements, however as it was previously mentioned, it's a good read so there's no issue even if it's not his own experiences. Sure, there are better ways to make the stuff he's mentioned, but for basically teaching himself it's a fair enough job.

>>399680

Hey OP, Have you got pictures of your bow and the stuff you made?

>>400354

>experience being innawoods,

i realize i'm fighting a losing battle, but could we keep rebbit-speak on rebbit and /k/, please?

>>400387

I seem to recall a thread Moot posted a while back about camping and such here in /diy/ where he used the term "innawoods" a few times. It's a term that's been in use in every relevant thread I can recall on this board, as a matter of fact. So I believe your battle was lost a long time ago, friend. My condolences.

>>400464
Yeah, it's pretty much site wide lingo by now. And if used alone I don't think it's that bad to use. Though I agree with him, too much internet/4chan slangwords and the quality of posting declines extremely fast.

>>400361

Didn't take a camera with me for most of the stuff I did, but I do have one picture.

>>400387

Remove kebab.

>>400521

And drawn.

ITT: OP is a badass and has proved himself superior to that candyass faggot Bear Grylls.

>>400535
"Some situations are presented to Bear so that he may demonstrate proper survival technique"

>>400354
the fact you are sucking OPs dick and calling mre as /b/tard because i disagree with you is proof you have no idea what your talking about

op is making all this up and you faggots gobble on his cock for more when its blatantly bullshit.

>>400387
innawoods is a /k/ thing, not rebbit you damn newfag

>>400464
its been used on /k/ for years and years. how new are you to this site?

>>400521
>>400525
>that bow

now i know you are full of shit. having knots left in the limbs? no natrual backing or artificial? probably has a draw weight of about 20 pounds by the look if it

>>400535
ITT: OP is a faggot who googles shit and posts it in this thread while making shit up

>>400521
>>400525
Want it! Tried to make one myself but failed, will try again when the snow disappears.

>>400761

I'll humour you.

The bow functioned just fine. It had a draw weight of 45# at 28", which I measured. While it is true that using a stave with knots is unwise, it doesn't effect the durability of the bow for my purposes - these things aren't meant to last a decade. And backing a bow isn't necessary on cedar. On bows made from yew, juniper, and other strong but inelastic woods, backing is more useful.

>>400783
>45 pound bow
>clearly a toy

it has not got a 45 pound draw weight. i make my own bows, and i can tell from the thickness as well as the taper of the limbs that its shit, nothing more than a toy

the fact that you cut through the inner bark means you have no idea what your doing

once again just spewing shit from google

>>400785

Look at the thickness of the limbs, and look at how short the bow is. The lack of leverage from such a short bow increases the draw. And I didn't cut through the cambium, I peeled it off.

>>400786
thats not how it works

your bow is a toy, and is no where near 45 pounds

closer to 15 pounds more like it

>>400788

Let me show you something.

This is what a 20 lb bow looks like.

>>400788
There are a lot of people that would consider my .22 a "toy", but it's still effective at what it was designed to do:

Kill shit and stuff.

I had a 15 pound bow as atalented /diy/er and that thing could take down small game if I managed to hit it.

>>398478
>Kootney region
Mah nigga.

>Thread is being shitted up by some faggot

Well, was fun while it lasted. OP, don't get dissuaded from posting more.

Got any cool stories to tell?

>>400798
comparing a .22 to his toy bow is totally unrelated, one is a weapon, one is a toy.

>>400919
you mean shit he makes up? why not google it like he is doing

>>400924
>you mean shit he makes up?
The burden of proof is STILL on you, though. And, as a guy who actually lives in BC, this shit resonates with me. So, no, stories.

>comparing a .22 to his toy bow is totally unrelated, one is a weapon, one is a toy.

Is there a reason for doing this? Honestly, even if he's making shit up, his survival tips are ACCURATE. What are you doing? You're in this thread railing against him while contributing fucking NOTHING.

Quit shitposting.

>>400525
How is the string staying on? And what did you use for it?

I've been following this thread since you made it. Tickles me fancy, mate.

>>400927
the burden of proof is not on me, im not the one making the stories up and posting them, just the guy calling him out on lying

you dont even know what burden of proof means, dont use words you dont understand, child.

> his survival tips are ACCURATE

not true, child

>>400952
You haven't pointed out a single inconsistency or untrue fact. You've done nothing but scream "BUH WUDDA NOT LIKE THREAD BAWWW". And this isn't /v/, we don't work like this. Go back to your shitposting IRC.

>>400952
You're correct that the burden of proof isn't on you. However, since no else care but you, the point is moot. You've done nothing but bitch and moan, and fail to find a specific fault in OP's story. I could go on and on about you're own ignorance, like bashing peoples English skills that are apparently better than your own punctuation lacking posts.

Congratulations though, you've succeeded in your goal of ruining a great thread.

>>400953
>>400959
just because i cant be bothered to show you retarded clueless fucks the inconsistencies, doesnt mean they arent there

look for yourself, children, you cant always be handed everything to you on a plate

this is, after all, "do it yourself"

>>400960
why you so mad bro?

>>400960
Just...stop trolling, man. Really, go troll /v/ or some shit. This is just boring, not enraging.

>>400962
why do you spew memes bro?

>>400968
im not trolling, im trying to save some lives here by telling you guys to not listen to this phoney

why do you feel the need to troll me, child?

>>400972
>Don't listen to this guy's advice!
>Listen to mine, which doesn't exist!

>>400960
I consider myself a bit of an outdoorsman, and nothing OP said jumps oit at me as blatently incorrect, and certainly not dangerous.

I imagine you're using the /diy/ aspect as an excuse since you're likely the one clueless about outdoor matters. Anyway, I'm done feeding the troll.

>>400975
i havnt given any advice, what you just said is invalid, child.

>>400977
>a bit
>not "a" outdoorsman

you are in no way qualified to make that call.

why are you so upset that OP is bullshitting you?

>>400972
Fine, ill ask in real english,

Why are you mad? also not to mention OP abandoned thread a long ass time ago so congrats, thread is dead...well, i'm off to go play outside, have fun yelling at people on the internet kiddo.

>>400982
not mad, stop projecting your own emotions into my post, child

>>400986

For someone who isn't mad, you sure are devoting a lot of time and energy at an attempt to discredit the OP, or at least shit up his thread to the point he doesn't want to continue.

I, for one, would take it as a compliment were I in his shoes. Someone putting forth that much effort in a failed attempt to ruin my day for no other reason than the simple fact they don't believe shit I've done is possible would give me giggles like the first time I ever tried a subtle troll. You're clearly very upset with the OP, and with anyone who backs him up by saying what he claims is indeed possible. Which is funny, since you first claimed he was simply parroting other people's stories, and now you're claiming it's not possible and will get you killed.

At this point, I don't care if you stop embarrassing yourself or not. You may be trying to ruin a thread, but you're making an amusing spectacle while the OP gives us his tale. Nobody else in this thread is complaining about the OP, and everyone's convinced you're an asshat. It's win win for me. I give this whole thread 10/10.

this was such a nice thread

>>401030
Agreed.

>>400919

Haha, yep, I've got a couple of stories.

One day, I was out hunting deer with my larger bow - it was carved out of black locust wood, and was about as tall as me unstrung. Didn't see any deer, so I made my way back home, when I was startled by a grouse. It flew about 20 meters before stopping, and then promptly forgot about me. It stood there, facing the other direction, and it was such a perfect shot that I had to take it - despite only having a deer bow with broadheads on it. It had plenty of time to take the shot, and I aimed for the upper body. The arrow flew a bit flatter than I expected, and when I went up to collect my kill, I saw that I cut the head clean off with the blade. The arrow went on another 30 or so meters before pulverizing itself on a rock.

>>400945

There are two nocks that I made with a rat tail file. In a rare case of guidance, an old guy with a bow shop said I should make one groove across the back of the bow to seat the string, as in pic related. The string is just a piece of cotton clothesline. This little bow was my "bird bow", which I used on everything from grouse to geese.

>>400978

I AM QUALIFIED I HAVE MY PHD IN OUTDOORS LISTEN TO ME THANK YOU

What do you do these days? I see you are drawing on a tablet. Wacom? Tell us about yourself.

>>401169

Yeah, its a Wacom Bamboo tablet. Its a few years old. I used to do a bit of flash animation on Newgrounds.

I'm working now, saving for university. Gonna go into molecular biology. Just a labour job up north, where I'm getting experience on heavy equipment as well. It's good money, but there's nothing but prairie for 500 kilometers in any direction. The Northwest Territories border isn't that far though, so I might make a long trip up there in the summer. I was thinking of starting a kickstarter so I could film a couple months in the woods and make a web series or something.

>>401178
>Gonna go into molecular biology
Hell yeah bro

>>401101

Your arrow cut the deer's head when you hit it...? ~_~

>>401202
no, a grouse

>>401178
Can you explain in detail how to make rope/string/fibers?

>>401026
>time and energy
>a lot

if making a few posts on the internet is a lot of time and energy for you, then you must be a very unfit individual, child.

>>401101
>carve
>bow

more proof your full of shit.

>>401178
>I used to do a bit of flash animation on Newgrounds.

HAHAHAH and you guys eat the shit this child spews up?

pathetic

>>401209

The quickest cordage I use are spruce roots, but they can be a bit cumbersome for finer things. If you need twine, then you need to take a fibrous plant (like nettles) and break it apart lengthwise, then let the fibers dry. From there, you twist the fibers into small cords (twisting several together with an overlap to increase the length). These cords can then be twisted or braided into a rope. I can go into more detail on twisting/braiding if you really need it. It helps to oil the fibers a bit when you're working with them, to make them last longer. Rub a bit of animal fat on them, or better yet, wax it if you have any available.

Animal sinews make good binding or stitching. Ligaments should be pounded into a more fibrous consistency. It'll shrink and become hard when it dries, so it's good for arrow bindings or other things that need to be tight.

The inner bark of cedar makes a good fiber to use. Don't use ferns like bracken, since they tend to become too brittle for long term use.

>>398459
Starting to read the thread now, but if you linked this in /k/ I'm sure my fellow /k/ommandos would read/ participate.

Polite sage for off topic

Some men just want to watch the thread burn.

You are the biggest faggot I've seen all day and I work in a courthouse.

Im a bit late to the party. I've started bush walking too OP. But i live in Australia, so the wild is a bit different here. My biggest concern isnt large animals, it's little insects, leeches, spiders, ticks, and snakes.

I've started using bug spray and it helps a bit, but im still very cautious. Coming home, being clean and then finding a leech bloated on blood in the hallway 2 days later is not fun. What clothing should i be wearing to avoid bugs? I've ditched my running shoes because leeches could crawl into the mesh on my runners and they let in water. What else should i look out for?

What do you use to clear a path through dense bush?


FUCK YOU FUCKING CHAPCHA PIEACE OF FUCKING SHIT, FUCK YOU MOOT YOU FGAINT MONEY GRABBING JEW

>>401336

There are quite a few bugs that I try to avoid, most notably ticks. If I'm in dense brush, I'll sometimes tuck my pants into my boots, and my belt is usually tight enough to keep them out. My shirt is always worn loose though, so I'll find ticks on my torso and armpits. Keeping my hair short helps. Wearing a hat doesn't do much, since they can just crawl right under. If it's vital to keep bugs out, like some certain people I hike with who are skirmish about bugs, use the bug spray on all entry points - spray your shirt collar, sleeve cuffs, and around the waist. DEET isn't something you want on your body, so putting it on clothes is preferred. Even after every precaution, I still check for ticks every evening.

Having the smell of smoke on you seems to help with mosquitoes and flies.

If I'm making a trail in thick brush, I prefer a machete. For the most part, though, I don't need a path, since I'd only travel through the area a few times. Better to just push through it than waste time making a clear avenue for travel.

You said you've worked with hide clothing before, OP? Because I've been thinking of gearing up to start bushwalking. Part of what I was thinking of was wearing a kind of fishing pants like garment that covers my shoes and legs, held up by overalls. Similar to the bottom half of pic related.

Would this keep those unsavory insects out? Perhaps provide some additional protection? Because I live in the eastern BC region and mosquitoes eat my legs alive.

Aside from that, got any recommendations gor what a first timer should bring?

>>401554

I wouldn't make it to cover your boots, since walking is going to chew the pants up really quick. Have it down to the ankles at most and lace it up to keep it tight. A setup like that would be pretty good, since you're covering so much of your body. I wear Carhartt overalls to work, and I can run around in a mine without having debris and material getting in my clothes. Keep in mind making a garment that big out of leather is going to weigh a ton.

If it's your first time, take lots of food and water with you, and several ways to start a fire. You should practice every method you have available, from Bic lighters to friction fires. Take a good knife, preferably not a folding blade, unless you don't plan on doing any heavy work with it. Bring lots of rope or cordage, and a good tarp to sleep and work under. A hatchet is great if you intend to work with a lot of wood, but if you're just going to be cutting wood for fires, then take a bow saw and cut standing dry wood for your fires.

Don't feel bad about taking a lot of gear in when you're starting out. There's a lot you want to learn before you start relying on your skills rather than your gear.

tarp or tent?
also, does someone know if a sleeping bag fitted for -4°Celcius is enough for going inna woods in Sweden in last 2 weeks of august?

>>401930

I use a tarp almost all the time, since they're cheaper, have more uses, and depending on the size, weigh less.

I used a +5 bag when I bothered to carry one, except for in the winter, when I used a winter bag my grandparents brought back from a trip to Mongolia. When camping in August, that bag will be more than enough.

>>401930
Just a little heads up from a fellow Scandi: I've seen Biltema peddle sleeping bags they have rated to -10 which, having inspected them, would kill anyone stupid enough to attempt it. I'm not saying you're stupid but, you know... You might be. Just don't trust no-name brands if your life depends on a piece of kit. Mammut, Nanok, Mountain Equipment and Western Mountaineering are the brands I've used and found them all to be dead on with their temp rating, at least for my (incidentally perfectly average) body.

In late august though a bag is not as much a necessity as a comforter (as in you'd survive without it, but you wouldn't necessarily be comfortable).

>>401930
A tent can make a whole lot of difference, since it protects you well from wind. If you somehow can afford to bring a tent instead of a tarp, bring it.

How do you manage hygiene without running water? Not just shitting in the woods and wiping, but keeping your hands clean and such.

>>402076
hehe, I thought I was in the dwarf fortress thread over at /vg/ and about to write down plans for an elaborate hygiene system involving pumps and lots of gate logic.

In either case, not OP, but:

Bring a bar of soap. The faster running and clear water is, the better. The higher it is the better. The farther away it is from livestock pastures the better. Bring a bar of soap.
That's how I do it when I'm trekking.
Also, boil water and learn about antibacterial secondary metabolites from plants.

Awesome thread OP. Can you elaborate more on different hide preservation techniques? Everything I've goofled requires store bought materials and im gonna buy mineral spirits for a rabbit i ran over. Im especially interested in braining.

>>402113
Not gonna buy***

Sorry.

>>401899
Hmmm, what we recommend I make it out of, then?

And yeah, I'm a tad overpacked. Gotta bowie knife, a swiss army knife, a hatchet, barbaque lighter, flint and steel kit, and some rations and some water. Thinking about adding cord, a pot and a tarp.

>>401178

Hope you have an easy time picturing 3d images and protein interactions in your head