/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Is there anyone out there tonight?

Hello?

Carve one out of wood and glue some wet and dry sand paper in the groove. Alternatively, make it so you can replace the sandpaper a la pic related. If you have access to metalworking tools, make one out of aluminum.

>>331269
But how could I make a groove like that?

>>331272
With wood, any good file should do the trick. The smaller groove would likely require a rotary tool and some specially shaped bit.

Maybe construct it in three parts?

>>331277
What about instead of trying to make that groove, I just make that upsidedown V shape and just temporary make the sandpaper stick there some how.
Heh.
I know this sounds funny when I read it back to myself.

Anyone?

When does this thread die?

You really do not need a crowning file to do frets, they suck anyways, it just means you only get one crown shape that only really does a good job on one fret size. They are ultimately the tool of production work, designed to do one thing and not even all that well.

Here is what you do, go but a small triangular bastard file, for bass you want something with 3/8" inch sides, Round over the sharp corners of the file on a bench grinder and then use some sharpening stones to polish the edges smooth and well rounded, take it to the bass and practice. You get much more control over fret shape this way. I also use a 1" flat bastard which has one wide face and one short face ground smooth, it has some worth in fret dressing, but mostly used in other areas of guitar work.

The first time I did frets I did it with a block of wood as mentioned above. I carved a groove with a small gouge and then afixed sandpaper into it with carpet tape. I never found any sand paper that lasted, you have to change the paper constantly, especially with the coarser papers. I never finished that fret job with the sandpaper, got a crowning file, used that for awhile and grew to hate it. You need to follow crowning files with a cheeking file to fix the flawed crown and then use a triangular like I mentioned above to smooth it out a little better and to knock the sharp corners off the ends. Eventually I realized I could do the same job with just the triangular and the cheeking file, then I realized I could do it all with the triangular. Love it.

oh, and OPs pic is just a tweak of the triangular file method, not a crowning file. Your hands will hate you if you try and do an entire fret job with one of those things. They are just made for a quick emergency touch up, like smoothing out damage to a fret which is catching the string or the like. It will take longer to get a usable fret job with that then it will take to modify the bastard and learn to use it, But less time then the block of wood method, I really can not recommend that one. The bastard file will cost less then the sandpaper most likely and will last you years.

>>332054
We have one of those triangle shaped files lying around the farm somewhere.
This idea of using sandpaper sounds like a complete joke now....

>>332054
I can not find a picture of a cheeking file any where.
Try it yourself by searching for "cheeking file" and you just get a load of images of people with red cheeks.

>>332054
I just looked into what frets look like close up whenever they are filed down.
And whenever the fret is filed it just makes it flat at the top, and then you would take that 3 sided file and just take off more of the fret, therefore creating a crowned fret.
Right??

>>332407

try "fret cheeking file" or just wander over to the stewmac website.

>>332409

level the frets with a good flat bastard then put the triangular file on its newly smoothed and rounded edge. the edge rests on the fretboard while the face is against the fret. start filing twisting the file toward the fret to get it nice and rounded. then dress the ends. you tube should have a video of that for you. after you got them crowned take sand paper and run it the length of the fret board to polish up the frets. start with 220 grit, work up to 600 or 800, if the frets are not smooth enough you feel the string drag when bending.

best to just do the first five frets until you get the technique. just level the frets crow the first 5. and try it out. if its no good relevel and try again. once you get the technique just relevel and go at it. bass is good to start with, big frets, you have a good ten attempts you can screw up before the frets start getting to low.

>>332494
Ack, fuck.
I don't know if I can do this...

>>331238

is the angle 90 degrees? if so, you could get a piece of angle stock metal from a decent hardware store, cut off a short piece, and embed it into a piece of 1" wood (epoxy or silicone) and glue yr grit paper to it. Id use wet-or-dry not shit paper.

>>332631
The numbers that show 100 & 400 is talking about how rough (ruff! lol) the file is.
On this particular file.

>>332622

Sure you can do it, it is not that hard. Tonight I I will do a quick video showing how to do it.

>>332631

The sand paper will not last, leveling the frets leave a very sharp burr on the edge of the flat, it slices right though the paper. A belt sander belt cut down almost makes it workable, but still, very very slow and since you are working such a small area of the paper over and over it wears out quickly. You are lucky to get one fret per piece of paper. Takes less time to modify the file and learn to use it.

>>333664
Where can I watch that video?

>>333802

You can't yet. It seems I can not get suitable lighting with for my camera post sun set. Need that ambient daylight to get decent quality. I will reshoot it and get it uploaded sometime after sun rise and drop a link off. Probably after I sleep but who knows, day breaks in hour so it maybe in not to long.

>>333975
Hey that would be great man.
Just post the link in here when you're done?

I hope this thread is still going so I can get the link....

Are you still there /b/ro?

Just let me know if you're coming back.

This thread isn't going to stay up forever man!

Are you coming back dude?
I'm hanging here by myself.

>>336099

Haha, sorry, I spaced it out, I have a day of nothing to do tomorrow, I will make sure to get that taken care of. Pulled out the tools and put them in my way so I do not forget.

Please do not connect me to /b/

>>332054
Do what this guy suggested.
I'm a luthier, and while I've spent $100 on a quality diamond crowning file in the past, I still keep coming back to triangle files. Just pick one up at Home Cheapo and grind the corners smooth.
>>332058
That's because it is a joke.
You should use sand paper to polish the frets when you're done, but it'll take you forever to crown with sandpaper. Plus, the earlier suggestion of making a fret shaped groove in a piece of wood and covering it with sandpaper is a silly one, unless you don't mind changing the paper every ten strokes or so.
>>332622
If you don't think you can do it, then don't try it. I don't mean to be discouraging, but it takes a lot of practice to get consistent results from fret work.

>>336293
Well it's better to come up with some ideas, rather than always having to rely on someone else to do this kind of thing for you.
I'm sick of being ripped off for jobs that can be done myself.
I was fucking charged $100 for a guitar shop making a fucking hole for me, so the neck would sit in place.
$100 for a fucking hole?
Pfft, yeah right.

>>336356
What kind of a hole are we talking?
I understand wanting to do things yourself, don't get me wrong. Wiring, for example. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do your own wiring. But fretwork is a different story, and your posts don't leave me with a lot of confidence in your abilities (no offence).

>>336363
A very simple hole.
Look at the the picture.
There needed to be a hole drilled into the neck so that the neck will sit properly.
This is a tension free neck and does not use a truss rod.

>>336380
Looks like a sort of micro tilt type thingie for adjusting the neck angle. That could have easily been done with a shim in the neck pocket. Sounds like you need a different luthier.

>>336410
After he charged me that amount, I said that I would not go back to him and try to do things myself.
Leading me to starting this thread.

>>336293
>If you don't think you can do it, then don't try it. I don't mean to be discouraging, but it takes a lot of practice to get consistent results from fret work.

Its a bass, he can relevel and recrown at least 10 times, he has plenty of fret material to fuck up and fix. It really takes a special sort of person to fail that many times and not figure it out. You really do not need consistent, sure it looks nice and brings in the buisness, but all he needs to do is level and better then what it is now. And as I said it is a bass, he has alot of fret material to play with there.

Those diamond files are the worstest, the $5 modified Nicolson lasts longer and does a better job.

>>336605
Do you wanna know what I actually found out?
I took a closer look at the frets and noticed that they were not flush with the fretboard, so I hammered them in and all the buzzing has went away except for a few places.
I have actually damaged the 12th fret with a hammer that had little squares in it, so there are now dents in that fret.
I just need to fix that one and just a few other ones.

The bass is a piece of shit "Greco" bass, that is heavy as all hell.
I'm just waiting for my main bass to get back to me, so I picked this up from a girl we know and managed to work on some theory on it.
But what I would like to do now, is to try and fix it up and just use it as a bass for working on things, like practising the levelling and crowning of frets for starters.

>>336623

That is common, they may pop up again, you may need to glue them down. If they pop them up again you just squirt a little CA glue under the fret and hold it down with the head of hammer for a minute while it dries, or spray some accelerator on it while holding it down so you do not have to wait a minute. You use the hammer head to hold fret down since CA glue bonds instantly to skin and most hammer heads are dirty enough that they will not get glue to fret.

CA glue is crazy glue, super glue etc, At the moment I forget what accelerator is, I am kinda drunk. Water actually works, but causes CA glue to foam, rosewood also works, CA glue dries very very quickly on rosewood. Its nice on rosewood fretboards when you need to glue frets, its not as fast as accelerator but pretty quick.

>>336626
I know this sounds weird.
But, this thing is heavy.
How easy would it be just to make a new body for it?
The wood doesn't matter what it's made of, it just needs to be strong enough to hold a neck on it.

>>336629

Easier then making a neck, go for it.

Although abit of time with my mesquite bass will probably make you think that thing is a lightweight. I really do not know what I am going to do about that bass. The body alone is heavier then every complete bass I have come across, but damn, that shit is hard and it took a long time to make.

>>336631

By the way after you make a new body you are going to realize that that neck has no place on the body you made and you will make a neck for it.

Then you will put that bass back together and it will kick around for awhile, probably a long while because that time its neck had your body made you attached to the piece of shit, the piece of shit that made it possible for you to make your own bass. You will never get rid of it at that point.

>>336632

You will then realize what a great bass it is.

as I said I am kinda drunk. I am also stuck on the computer because shuffle keeps playing really good music. After I sleep I will make that video for you.

>>336633
I would love to be able to make a neck man.
I would make one and then iron out all the things that were wrong with it and make another.
Then another and another.
Probably start selling them at that point.
How hard is it to make a neck?
I don't want to use a truss rod system.
Wait till you hear a tension free neck, cause then you won't want to go back, which is what has happened to me.

>>336636

Its not that hard. Just go with fixing up that neck and making a new body, to start with, you will get there. It is just building of a skill set. And that is your simplest a cheapest path to building that skill set at this time. Make the body out of what ever wood you got sitting about, glue it up to get the size, what ever, just make it work. A big part of learning to repair and to really build quality instruments is learning the materials and the tools and how to improvise, work with what you have at hand for now. Despite what people think great electric basses and guitars can be made from non tone woods. The woods that are thought to be best for electrics are generally what gibson and fender used, They used what was cheap and plentiful, gibson threw on fancy exotic wood on top for looks, but it has little do with the sound. Hell many of those sought after les pauls have bodies of 4 or 5 pieces of only so so wood glued up, they hid that with the fancy top wood. Hell Danelectros are masonite and pine, and those things have great sound.

A neck without a truss rod is harder to make, but you can make a tension free neck without a truss rod. The cheap common truss rod applies tension and only works in one way. The double expanding truss rod and the hot rods apply no tension just force. The force goes into the fretboard or into the back of the neck instead of into the end of the neck applying tension. The tension is all in the truss rod itself, not in the neck in this case. The main thing with making a good neck free of a truss rod is good and stable wood. To start with getting your building skills down the $20 for a hot rod or the $5 in parts and $20 in tools to making your own is well worth it. Don't worry about the details in the beginning, just worry about building and experimenting, that is where you will learn the most.

>>336641
Is there any books that would tell you what you NEED to know about building bass necks?
Or videos, even?

I've got to go to bed now.
Talk tomorrow.

I'm up.

>>336934

Hah, there are plenty of books, but you have a neck to go off of, it is all right there, everything you need to know. And if that farm you are on is anything like every farm I have been on there is a whole lot of wood you can dig through and use to experiment with. Just go at it, you will learn more just making a neck then you will reading a book. The books suck, even if you have to buy wood, $20 can get you enough maple from any decent lumber yard to make 4 necks.

If you want to read read about wood and wood working, avoid anything aimed towards luthier and instrument building, its all very one sided, every author has the one and best way. Once you have built an instrument those books will be far more useful, you will be able to see how the techniques are applied and which techniques are actually worthwhile to pursue. Stumble your way through the first one, You know enough about basses to know about truss rods, so you know enough to build a solid body bass. Just make it work with whats on hand, spend your time building.

I have yet to see the instrument building book that teaches you to build instruments, you may build an instrument after reading it, but chances are all the book did was prove you can follow direction. Building will teach you far more.

>>336947
The thing that concerns me is that the frets have to be measured out to a certain distance and also the placement of the bridge is important.
It's things like this that I wouldn't like to make a mistake on.

Hey, here's a video demonstrating the sound of the tension free neck design.
Every note is very clear because of this design.
He says in the video that the clarity is because of the bridge.
He's correct in saying that to a certain point, but the reason why it's so clear is because there no tension being placed on the neck, allowing the wood to vibrate freely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZieGGECiQNs&feature=related

>>336957

https://vimeo.com/54118798

here you go. Good luck

>>337027
Going by this video, it's a very simple job.
I knew that's the way you would use that triangle shaped file. lol
I think people are afraid to do this sort of thing themselves because they have always been told "to take it to a PRO, /b/ro".
Any body can be a "pro" as long as you get money for doing a job.
I've had enough of "pros".

Thanks ever so much for doing that video man.
I now know exactly what to do when it comes to filing frets down.
Did you check out that video of the bass using a tension free neck design?
Here's what it looks like.

>>337102

Yeah, I know about it, it is hype in a way. They are sort of taking the neck wood out of the equation here. The metal is the main transmission of the vibrations instead of the neck itself. A big part of this is it means wood selection for the neck is far less important, the neck is not structural or part of the sound, so they can use pretty much anything.

It is actually part of the sound, but that truss rod drastically diminishes the effect. The effect of the wood is a dampening effect on the metal, reduces high harmonics, restrics its ability to vibrate.

This same effect can be achieved in other ways, a set neck instead of bolt on has a huge effect, possibly more. Good wood selection can do wonders. A harder wood with more regular structure will transmit the vibrations better then a softer less dense wood with wild grain. More simplifications here, but many volumes could be written on this subject if one desired to do so.

The number of variables are endless. This is why I said just build, experiment, work with what you have, see what happens. While you may love this truss rod, you will learn nothing if you do not experiment with the alternatives. You may find something you like better, or you may just go back to this design and stick to it. But you will have learned much about the why and how, your subjective view will become closer to empirical, subjectively empirical, but far beyond what someone who has just played alot of different basses. Not to mention the experimentation will teach you how changes effect the sound and lead you to possible improvements to your sound.

Enough, first real snow of the year, I got to hop on the bike and enjoy it.

>>337129
You have to go now?

>>337181

Had to go bike around in the snow. But you have all you the information you need, you just have to apply it now and go make some mistakes. If you need something I am sure vimeo has a way you can message me directly.

>>337235
Okay.
I'll let you go now.
I'm going to try and make a bass neck with the tension free system, because to my ears the notes are clear as a bell and there's constant adjustments needed for temperature changes.
Good luck!!

>>337241
Shit.
I MEANT to say that there's NO need for constant adjustments for temperature changes.

>>337244

If a truss rod needs constant adjustment something is not well with the neck. Temperature change has almost no effect on the wood, at least in any sane human livable temperature. It is humidity and changes in the wood caused by humidity are slow. That moisture has to work its way through the finish and the wood has to absorb it/expel it from the surface to the core. A humid day in the middle of drought is not going to do a thing,

If you are adjusting your truss rod more then 4 times a year, something is wrong. Could be really poor wood selection and no finish, could be a lack of knowledge in proper truss rod adjustment. Most people get by with two even in my ridiculous climate.

Either that or you need to relax abit and stop obsessing about the setup.

>>337396
See, people are afraid to adjust the truss rod and are told to take "to a pro".
It's such an easy thing to do.
I like to have as low of an action as I can.
What I do is lower all the string right to the bottom and raise them up until the buzzing stops.

I've had 4 different basses and the temperature of the room has always effected them.
I could tell by simply looking at how far away the strings were from the fretboard.

With a tension free neck, I won't have to even concern myself with that happening.
So I can just set and forget.

Hey, I took a few photos of a maple tree outside.
Would this be good enough to try making a neck out of?

>>337455

Well, lets see, I think I am going to ask you a question for a change. Is it more likely that you actually do not know how to adjust a truss in the proper manor or that all four of the basses you have owned were complete anomalies and go against everything I have learned in the 20 years I dedicated myself to the repair, restoration and construction of instruments?

I know I am treading the line of being an arrogant ass here, but this is the sort of attitude that caused me to give up the business. I offer my knowledge and experience for free and I get arrogance and ignorance in return. I can take one or the other but when someone throws both at me it is abit much. This is also an attitude that will really work against someone who desires to become a luthier.

>>337718

Doubt you will get a piece of straight grained clear wood out of that tree. Not to mention it will take a year or two from cutting for any wood to be ready for anything that requires stable wood.

>>337729
Well, they all were cheap basses, except for one which cost around $1,000.

The temperature in Japan is pretty different from the temperature from my own country.
The temperature and humidity is through the damn roof over here.

It now clear to me that people MUST keep their room with a de-humidifier in it, for them to be able to keep their neck from moving.

I think a part of it is my fault, by adjusting it all the time.
This is one of the reasons why I hate the truss rod system.

I don't even know how you thought I was being arrogant, when I thanked you for your help?
If there was any negativity you detected in my messages, it certainly wasn't against you.
I'm very happy that you gave me help.

>>337749

If you stick with fixing up your own instruments and building you will someday realize the ignorance and arrogance you expressed here. It is really not a big deal, I am just not going to expend my energy helping someone who is going to use their self admitted obsessive truss rod adjusting, limited experience and ignorance as proof that my 20 years is wrong. I have no problem with being wrong, or with a difference of opinion, but you got to have something to back it up with first.

Read this statement of yours over and over and think about your other statements until you see what I am getting at. You will not learn anything until you do, from me or anyone, you may make some instruments and even some good ones, but you certainly did not actually learn anything, just monkey see monkey do.

>>I think a part of it is my fault, by adjusting it all the time.
>>This is one of the reasons why I hate the truss rod system.

I will leave you with this, your knowledge of truss rods is lacking, you blame your own deficiencies regarding truss rod adjustment on the truss rod. You are looking for pie in sky.

>>337776
Tell you what nigger.
I take back my thanks towards you.
I met you half way and cleared up what I was saying to you, but you are such a little nigger bitch and decided that you're "not wrong".

If anybody needs to re-read something on this fucking board, it's you.
You're the kind of nigger spunk that refuses to admit to being wrong and it clearly shows.

You're a total glory hunting nigger to top it all off.
"I've been doing this for 20 years"
Wow. Big fucking deal.
You know comes to mind when I read that fucking statement of yours?
"This guy is the typical know-it-all nigger and would rather fight about being right".

You're right nigger.
You SHOULD get out of the business, because nobody wants to listen to know-it-all glory hunting nigger like yourself.
Read what I have written over and over again, until you realise that you should just stop and realise what a fucking nigger you are.

You will not learn anything until you do, from me or anyone, but you certainly did not "help" anyone here, just nigger listen, nigger get annoyed.

I will leave you with this, that you are not as great as you think you are and need to stop being a nigger, if you want to get any where in life, instead of bitching about people being "ignorant".

Okay nigger?

>>338072

haha, seriously? Pathetic.

<span class="quote deadlink">>>338072[/spoiler]

ohh fuck, thats right, I forgot no one actually knows what ignorant or arrogant means anymore.

Or am I just ignorant of the fact that everyone else actually does know everything?

>>338131
Bitch, is there something wrong with your fucking head or something here?
Did I fucking say you were arrogant and ignorant?
It's YOU who is the one is going around calling other people these things.

>>Or am I just ignorant of the fact that everyone else actually does know everything?
I'll tell you one thing.
You certainly seem to be ignorant, that other people couldn't possibly know as much as YOU.

I seriously hope you learn something form this nigger.
It's time for you to get off your fucking high horse and get rid of this "HEY GUYS I KNOW MORE THAN YOUUUU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARSSSSSS" mentality.

<span class="quote deadlink">>>338072[/spoiler]

> Pmsing on 4chan
> Calling someone a nigger because they think they are right

So you are pretty much calling him a nigger because he thinks hes right but you also think you're right? With your logic, you are a nigger. Nothing unexpected here.

>>338248
Just own up to the fact that you have your head up your own ass.
It doesn't matter how good you think you are, or what you know, or have to say, people are just not going to put up with your shit simply because you've "been doin' it foor agesh".
And you're right.
There is nothing totally unexpected coming someone such as yourself.

>>338257

haha, this is sad. there is not a person alive who is not ignorant, to be without ignorance is to be all knowing. Arrogance is just as universal. The trick is not be arrogant and ignorant at the same time, this is what is called stupidity.

Perhaps you should put of the bass work for abit and brush up on language, get a dictionary.

When did I ever say I was right?

I only said you were wrong.

Someone such as myself?

This has become surprisingly amusing.

I am sorry you are clearly right, those 4 basses you have owned (3 of which you admit to being cheap shit) clearly make you the authority on the subject here.

Are you incapable of reading and comprehending a sentencing in its entirety? Or do you just choose not too?

I never said doing it for ages or any such thing, I asked you which was more likely. That you do not know how to properly adjust a truss rod (which you later admitted you did not) or that all 4 of the basses you have owned go against everything I have learned in my 20 years in the business?

Do - Read, comprehend, respond.
Don't - Skim, react

<span class="quote deadlink">>>338257[/spoiler]
<span class="quote deadlink">>>338275[/spoiler]
>posts of raw irony

>>338275
I don't need to do looking up on any dictionaries here.
You're twisting everything here.
You're the one who started going on about me being "arrogant" and "ignorant", but now you're going on about how there is "no ignorance in the world".

The way that you're going about this, leaves me no other way to think of you as someone who is a total glory hunter, to which they will have no bad words said against them, or to question their "expertise".

>>Are you incapable of reading and comprehending a sentencing in its entirety?
Hello?? I think it's YOU who needs to comprehend MY sentences here, for I never said ANYthing about you not knowing anything, in the slightest.

You are so worried about being seen as an "expert" that you want to distort things people are saying, in order to do so.
Yes, it truly is "sad" because not once did I ever make myself out to be arrogant throughout this entire discussion, but it's what you want to try and make me out to be.

Yes, it has been highly amusing because that's the way you wanted it to be.
And yes, you keep going on about having 20 years of experience, so, MY opinion is worth less than yours?
I don't have a say in anything?

Please enlighten me "master luthier".

>>338314

wow, this thread is dead.

/thread

<span class="quote deadlink">>>338072[/spoiler]
^ This guy's a fucking retard.

>>338565
Listen bitch.
Just quit what you're doing, because you're not helping anyone out there.
I've seen many people out there just like you get all annoyed when someone doesn't agree with them.
If you want to continue to be a luthier, then expect to get annoyed unless you change your attitude.

But you see, it's almost impossible for a narcissist to see something from another way, other than their own.
I'm basically wasting my time even talking to you here.
But it's better if someone at least let's you know so you MIGHT be able to change.

>>338833

You continually show that you do not actually read what I wrote. I said many posts ago that I gave up the business.

I have yet to be annoyed, nor do I actually care.

>>But it's better if someone at least let's you know so you MIGHT be able to change.

Thanks, that gave me a good chuckle.

Instead of continuing this non-sense, why don't you just go prove me wrong? If I am the arrogant narcissist that you consider me to be, then hard proof that the things I said above are wrong should be pretty destructive to those characteristics. Go do your research and do figure out some tests and give it a go. These are all simple things to test with just scrap bits and pieces. It is clear your words are not enough to convince me of my apparently large flaws, perhaps your actions will do better.

At the very least you will learn something and maybe even contribute something constructive to the community.

>>339027

This gave me quite a chuckle, too.
Further proof of an egotistical, know it all, narcissist.

I've got nothing to prove wrong here.
But, here. Let me prove how blind you are by your narcissism.
Here's a little quote from you:
>I know I am treading the line of being an arrogant ass here, but this is the sort of attitude that caused me to give up the business.
Number 1. You said in your previous posts that you almost gave up the business, but now you are saying that you have.
Way to go, bitch.
Number 2.
In the same post you mentioned about being an arrogant ass.

Case closed.
I don't need any more "hard" evidence than that now, do I bitch?
It's clear that your words are not enough to convince me of how much you pretend to not love yourself.
Perhaps your actions of shutting your little bitch mouth will do better, because you can't talk your way out of this one.
No matter how hard you try, you just can't change facts.

So let's round this up now.
You are a little ego filled maniac, who behaves like a little bitch, getting annoyed at other people who don't "know" the same info as you do.
I think you have alot to work on here.

So when you're done, you don't have to get annoyed at people who know that they're being bullshitted to by a bullshitter.
I hope you continue to work on not being a little bitch, cause I think you deserve a second chance at NOT being such a little bitch.

Is this something you are happy to work on?

>>336623
do this next time
/watch?v=dBRude9l0Tg

<span class="quote deadlink">>>339075[/spoiler]

Your right, I am everything you made me out to be and more. I have just been bullshitting this whole time, I know nothing of lithier, I faked it all. All stuff I just read off of 4chan and regurgitated. Hell I can not even do a fret job, the video was just cgi, I am amazed no one called me on it, especially you, I guess you realized what it would do to my sad little pathetic life if you outed me.

Now go away I am done with you.

>>339097
I'm not going anywhere.
And it's clear that you're once again annoyed that I pointed out how you were bullshitting.
The truth hurts, doesn't it bitch?
And now, you have no road left to turn and want to try and make it out that I am saying something that I am not.

Just.
Stop posting bitch.
You can't convince me that you're cool, so, just fucking stop trying.
May I suggest that you work on NOT being a little bitch?
I'm sure the community would love to hear for from you once you have accomplished this.
Kay?

>>339118
>I'm not going anywhere.

You don't need to be explicit.
Your posts make this clear enough.

>>339128
You need to work on it more than THAT, bitch.
Keep trying though.

>>339130
You done trolling? Go ahead and show yourself out.

>>339157
I don't troll.
If someone wants to try and twist things that I'm saying, then they have to be prepared for it.
I did not, under any circumstances, mention anything about ME being better than anybody.
And I'm not going to sit here and give you a story about how "I'm not like that".

The next time someone is giving you their opinion on something, is there any point in you getting annoyed over something so fucking small?
It's like those fucking niggers, from one of those fucking nigger gangs killing each other because they saw some guy wearing a certain color.
I never in ONE sentence said anything against you, until you started on me.

There's nothing more left to say.