/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Check this one out too:

http://youtu.be/RzGYnMgu-YM

>>28314
I've been subbed to that youtube channel for a while now, and I'd probably get/make one of these eventually looks like a good idea.

>>28344 here
I just remembered this other house I saw a video of a while back here's the video. http://vimeo.com/22832755

Is that price taking in the amount you would need to buy some land?

>>28357
You wouldn't really need land. Most of these tiny houses aren't legal by building codes but people build them on trailers as a workaround. You could take these things to a trailer park and it would be the same thing.

Oh OP I would love to... buuuut this price is based on your climate. In, say, the US Northeast you couldn't quite pull it off, nor could you in southern swampland. I suppose in half-and-half climates you could do this, and if you want to go full Inuit and live like a snowman drunk on blubber you could it for cheaper... but yyyeah... tough times

>>28357
Also this

BUT also this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7jxFbscIJY

i love the fact the bed is in the loft, i know i can essentially make something like that but it aint the same, you know?

It would be neat to make a little guest house for people coming over. Even better, the ultimate playhouse for a kid.

http://www.relaxshacks.blogspot.com/

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

>>28383
Great idea dude.

I imagine how it would be having this as very own castle as a child....

>>28398

I have plans to do this for my kid if I ever have one. I ALWAYS wanted a treehouse as a kid and never got one. I'm not going to buy one of those bullshit pre-made kits either. Make it from scratch and make the kid help me to teach them how to use tools.

I would so live in this.

I really need nothing more than my desktop, laptop, record collection, and library. Also instruments. So shit like this would be lovely.

I'd probably go for 150-200 ft. rather than 100, but aside from that, yes.

If I did that, I could probably build a one-room building next to it that I use for /tg/ stuff and things like that. Doesn't have to be heated except on game nights.

...well, I have a plan now.

Does anyone have reliable plans/examples?

Kind of reminds me of tear drop campers

>>28459
http://www.freegreen.com/Free-House-Plan-Selection/9/Simple-Villa.aspx

Sh'yeah, I'd love a house that size.
Been considering a 17m² apartment (purchasing one, that is), but one of these might do the trick instead!

I'd love to live in a tiny house, but even 89 ft**2 is too small for me. x3

>>28537
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses/fencl/

That one's 130.

40 ft High Cube shipping containers are about $3000.

Excellent start of a small home. Properly anchored into concrete with metal pins, winds in excess of 200 mph are not a problem.

>>28558

ISO containers are 40' LONG (and 8' wide, height varies).

>>28314
INB4 gypsies.

******

I'm 6'4" tall and have lots of stuff. Don't think so.

>>28314
Also, for $20,000 I'm pretty sure I could buy a used motorhome or travel-trailer with more room.

>>28558
It's funny because once I graduate i plan on connecting two or three of these together to make a two story loft or something. I actually haven't given it much thought until now. I think I'm going to go draft some plans now. Excuse me.

>>28567
The high cube are 8'10, the standard are 7'10".

The 8'10" is nice...plenty of room to run plumbing, electrical, ducting, rather than wasting valuable wall space for that.

My dream home is
>basement
>4 x 40 ft high cube, 1st floor
>3 x 40 ft high cube, 2nd floor
>2 x 40 ft high cube, 3rd floor

I love the idea, and I've lived in a tiny studio no problem, but it would only work if you lived on your own. No way would I feel comfortable sharing that little space with someone else all the time.

>>28576
Quality of space over quantity of space. These houses are damn sexy. They can even be resold.

>>28314

i could definately live there. If I kept moving it as well, it'd be dirt cheap in the end.

>>28585
Holy shit. Shipping containers. Why haven't I thought of that? I now what 3 shipping containers: 2 to emulate that, and 1 more large one to use as a place to host local punk bands. That would be the most badass setup of all time.

>>28613
>now what
Herpafuckinderp
now want*

My dream home builds down, instead of up. maybe 3 levels down, 2-3 small rooms each level. I have a stupid amount of fear for spiders, and I'd imagine you don't get many 30 feet below the earth...

To anyone thinks you couldn't do something like this, watch this vid.

http://youtu.be/HXDu2U-CmkI

These places are fucking sweet.

>>28373
If the building is less than 100 square feet, it usually doesn't have to conform to the building code (but it's also supposed to be an "accessory" building so you probably aren't supposed to live in it all the time.)

I just posted this site in the sticky and it fits well with this thread. The forum there is a great resource for all kinds of small house/cabin stuff.

www.small-cabin.com

yo hoes please click the ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p5bNzgFuE

>>28613

I had this idea ever since I worked my summerjob at a factory when I was 16. Man, punkshows in a sea container. That would be rad, the worst acoustics ever but hey, it's punk.

>>28638
You could pretty easily put some foam on the sides. The hardest part would be coming up with a name for a venue so badass.

>>28594
build another one for the other person lol :D

>>28613
The first time i saw a shipping container building was Flynn's house in Tron Legacy it was such an AH HA! moment i think i may have said holy shit in the middle of the thearter.

What would be a good emergency system for these? If a fire started you would certainly be fucked without a decent escape.

>>28650
While plausible, that would somewhat take away the point of living with another person, heh.

>>28635
>>28628

Dont tell me.... Yup.

>dat spam

>>28378
I just wanted to add, as a fellow noreaster that these are totally feasable in our climate. Just slap some insulation, 2"x4" supports, and a layer of drywall. Seal up windows and doors as usual. The space is so small that once you get the heater (most of them have a spot for a heating unit) and the natural sunlight through the windows and a rug, you should be fine.

Most homes on the east coast are freezing in winter because they have too much open space or aren't insulated properly. If you insulated one of these, just the fact of having a human being inside of it over an extended period will help it be warmer inside.

I would totally do this but there's not enough room for fish tanks or my 6'3" husband. Maybe when we have our forever home I'll build one of these as a period hut to go curl up and eat chocolate and read books in once a month and spare him dealing with me.

Which would be cheaper? Building one of these Tiny Houses, or slapping a couple shipping containers together and then adding storage, insulation, etc., to that?

these kinds are pretty interesting http://cobhouse.net/ the organic shapes of some of these reminds me of the game The Neverhood.

>>28667
>period hut
+1 for you, madam.

>>28668
Decent-sized shipping containers are going for around $3,000 each on ebay. You think they'd be cheaper, but alas.

>>28665
uhhh...
>>28628
is not spam though lol.

>>28674

Now that's something you don't see often on 4chan.

>dose /diy/kes

>>28676
Maybe something from http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Get-A-Shipping-Container/ could be of use?

I wonder how shipping containers would work up here in the northeast. every time i see one it looks so fucking sweet but then i think back to freezing days in a shack in the woods while camping and it just makes me shudder and while they are reasonably spacious if i have to cut a foot of width and 6inches of ceiling to properly isulate it might make it just that little bit too confined to be truly comfortable

>>28668

I imagine the house on the trailer. The shipping containers would be expensive and harder to deal with, considering they're metal.

>>28680


>http/youtu.be

>>28698
True

http://www.containerhome.info/

nyomygod

>>28698
This. How the fuck do I get a shipping container where I want it? I don't have access to a large cargo ship or a semi truck, and I imagine most people can sympathize.

>>28718

After reading part of that instructable, it seems that dealers will deliver you your container. But considering the things weigh almost 2 tons, you better be happy with where they put it.

>>28698
Well, you don't have to build much. Time and material savings. Plus, it's metal. It is capable of withstanding intense pressure, and it's fireproof.

>>28718

eBay (et.al.) .. if you live near a major port, you can get them free, as it's not profitable to send them back .. the "cost" you see on eBay (et.al.) is just somebody delivering them from somebody that needs rid of them.

They are about $3,000 give-or-take.

>>28732
>strong

common misperception .. they are strong *on the corners* where they are designed to be stacked, and reasonably strong on the floor. The sides/top are designed to keep water out, but that's about it. See all the survivalist threads on burying them .. you have to reinforce the sides/top to not die.

Not sure if my house counts as "tiny".

>>28741
>designed to be stacked
>houses

1. turn into houses
2. stack them up to creat a hive city
3. ????
4. Profit!

>>28748
This has been done before, I believe.

>>28748
3. is "charge rent".

>>28754

>>28741
well there is a difference between "strong enough to stack and build a house out of" and strong enough to "not get crushed when you bury it". I don't know of many houses that could handle being buried.

>>28748
It would be like a modern-day Anasazi village, except that there would be no temperature control so people would overheat in the summer and freeze in the winter.

>>28754

this I will partake.

>>28702

That's just a shortened link. They give you that if you like the video.

>>28741
No doubt, they cannot be buried. They cannot withstand a HUGE amount of side load.

However, the tensile strength of wood is about 40 MPa. The tensile strength of A36 steel is 400 MPa.

They can withstand more than pine.

>>28760
Except there is, because you can easily insulate them and add electricity + heating/cooling.

>>28745

Oh shit, that's pretty awesome.

This only compels me more to build my own house. My main concerns are sewage, water, and power though. I could use solar panels I suppose, but what about sewage and water? Do you just contact the state about it?

>>28748
Major problem: The more vertical units you add, the stronger the units have to be, which past a certain point, means making them bigger/heavier, or attaching an external support structure. You'd have to be able to find an ideal unit height, and design it from the beginning to be so and so durable so that it could support all of that. Then you need to have it be stable, so increased wind/top-heavy-ness doesn't cause the thing to fall over. You'd have to design a convenient way of getting up, which past a certain point means an elevator ( there are only so far vertically you can expect someone to realistically be willing to manually traverse ), and a whole ton of other factors.

I'd like to get about 25 of the 8x8x40 shipping containers, rent an excavator and a crane, dig out a 40x40x60 hole in the ground, put them in the hole 5 wide by five tall, reinforce the floors, walls and ceilings as necessary, cut out the dividing walls to create a nice open floor plan, weld it all together and bury it 20' underground. No idea how septic or air or any of that shit would work, but having 5 stories underground to live in would be a blast.

>>28757
It's the difference between stress forces being applied against a few structural strongpoints and a whole surface that wasn't made to withstand that to begin with. A steel cage with tin foil sides won't withstand much surface pressure.

>>28775
>My main concerns are sewage, water, and power though.
At the moment, I don't have any of those things. I'll get around to putting some solar panels up soon enough. I have an outhouse about a hundred yards off. Water right now I bring in from town, sooner or later I'll build a cistern and then there's a water service and I can pay them to keep me filled up, and it will flow down the hill to my house by gravity (there's a side road that goes up the hill just a few hundred yards off).

>>28775
I doubt you could do this on their grid. so you'd be looking at a well and septic system.

I told my husband I want us to build one of the three bedroom ones.

For the cost, I'd rather just build one of these on a plot of land then trying to buy somebody's house and get stuck with the mortgage.

>>28796
building or buying both involves a mortgage. If it was that much cheaper to build, wouldn't everyone do it?

>>28803
No, because most people lack the willingness to actually do it, and many also lack a place to stay while they work on it.

>>28803

It's much cheaper to build your own computer, but the good majority buy prebuilts.

>>28803
I personally would rather build. There's just something more satisfying about getting a plot of land and building your own home.

Also like >>28813 said
My husband and I actually do have a place to stay. We're currently living with my parents in a three bedroom house. But the lack of care on their part, the house being overrun with their pets(shit and piss on the floor and furniture all day, every day) and a 150K mortgage, that we're suppose to take over when they pass on. No thanks.

>>28824
>150k mortgage
That's not that bad.

>>28837
It is when my family has own the house since the 60's. The damn thing would have been paid off already if my parents were dumb fucks with money. My mom though 14+ credit cards was a good idea with a job that pays less then 10 an hour.

So imagine that 150K mortgage, along with ALL their debt.

Yeah, the bank can just have the house and the collectors all their property. My husband and I aren't taking that responsibility.

>>28846

The hell, did they get 4 mortgages on their home?

>>28846
>14+ credit cards

>>28815
>plumbers
>$60/hr to cut and glue PVC

>electricians
>$60/hr to pull wires through small places

>construction workers
>variable pay to dig holes, nail/screw stuff, and pour concrete

It all depends how much you value your "free time".

My free time is not worth $60/hr. I do my own plumbing and electrical.

>>28854
I know they took out two more mortgages on the house to pay off their debt. Instead of setting some of the money aside, they bought themselves each a new car.

Honest to god, my mom has no sense with money. We're barely hanging on, if my husband and I didn't give them rent money. They'd just flat out lose the house. Hell, my mom didn't even have enough money on her to buy the groceries for dinner one night and I had to pay for some of it out my pocket(even though the rent money is suppose to go towards helping with the groceries too.)

Worse part is, I have an older brother who always in jail. I read one of the letters he sent on the 16th, and he was bugging my mom, asking her when she was going to order the food package for him. My brother is 33 years old. My mom STILL sends him money and stuff, even when we're still struggling to make ends meet.

>>28869
The time you spend at work in a 40 hour job may not be worth $60/hr, but you have to figure in that unless you have 8 hours+ a day in which to finish the work, it may be wiser to pay someone else to get it done in a timely fashion.

and hell, if you aren't worried about permits or being up to code, you can just pay some teenager, tell him how you want it done, and pay him $10/hr.

>he bought photoshop

>>28883
I would rather work on my home than sit on my ass and watch TV, or fuck around on the internet.

It really isn't hard to build things up to code. Thanks to the internet, most of the information is available for free.

>>28879
Yeah, sounds like financially you should leave that mess to collapse. Financially it might be wise to drop your identity to avoid inheritance.

>in jail.
>food package
I thought you got free food in jail? What country do you live in?

>>28869

>60 dorrah
>mfw average wage in euroland 75

>>28398
I want to buy 20 of these house and set them up to look like my own private village.

Population: me

>>28894
>mfw I make $12/hour
Where the fuck is all you guys' money coming from?

>>28884

As you should

>>28897

United states. He bugs my mother for money constantly. I don't know why he's bugging her about it. I don't ask question. I've completely disowned him as family. Because of him, I was in therapy at 9 years old and I'd be more then happy to stick a knife in his gut if I ever saw him again. That's how much I hate him.

>>28891
I'm just saying, when you make your money by a not-trade, let's say a 9-5, m-f office job, no matter how much you enjoy doing your own work, can do max four hours a day on a project like building your next home. less if you have a family you also want to spend time with. it's going to take you years to get a modest home built at that rate.

>>28663
I think it would be fun, you can both decorate your houses the way you want and live right next to each other. Have all the perks of dating and being together at the same time.

I live in a 200sq ft house, made out of cob. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere hot and dry, so I don't have the issues that other cob and adobe houses do. Been living here for a couple of months and it's pretty neat. I made it so tiny because if it were any bigger, I'd have to get a building permit and I figured that'd be a nightmare since cob's an "alternative" building material.

>>28912
>United states.
He should be getting food from the feds then.

> I've completely disowned him as family. Because of him, I was in therapy at 9 years old and I'd be more then happy to stick a knife in his gut if I ever saw him again. That's how much I hate him.
Damn bitch, you need to chill the fuck out. What the hell did he do that matters more than family?

You can easily find old RV trailers or motorized for cheap.
They are perfectly suitable for living in for long periods of time.

Buy a small lot and plop the RV on there and you are set.

>>28920
>container home
>dig the trench for plumbing
>dig the basement
>pay someone to run the plumbing service from the street
>pay someone to set and pour the basement
>rent crane
>stack containers
>pay someone to do the electrical service drop to the box
>do the rest myself

My friend and I ran electrical, plumbing, insulation, and drywall in his garage apartment in under a month. That was doing it in our off-time.

>>28920
At four hours a day you could move in within a month, potentially. You're still doing work on it for years, no doubt, but a roof over your head is pretty quick.

>>28929
He raped, molested, and beat me(which is why I ended up in therapy). Robbed the family. Almost set the house on fire. Also threatened to kill my father. I could go on.

Also, the only time he ever contacts the family is because he wants money from my mom. He doesn't care about the family at all.

>>28945
Knife in the gut sounds reasonable, then. But not hate. That won't do anyone any good, least of all you.

>>28956
>>28945
Can you take your digression to /soc/ please? =)

>>28956
He's actually the only person I feel any true animosity towards.

I can't forgive a person if he's never even once tried to ever apologize for the things he's done. I might be willing to actually reduce my hate if you know, he told me he was actually sorry for what he did to me.

>>28963
If you can't try to reduce your hate for his sake, do it for your own. You can try thinking about it from his perspective, but I imagine you'd likely need the help of a therapist for that, and sadly I'm not one.

>>28961
It's ending now anyway.

>>28846
Okay, maybe not 14, but there's a "good" reason to get a credit card if it's linked to particular store that you shop at very frequently. There are special discounts, coupons, etc you can get a special discount the day you sign up. The downside is the interest rate is often very high. You just have to make sure it's paid off every month.

My fiance needed new work clothes, he had literally worn holes through his pants and shoes. I went on a weekend when the department store had big sales, opened a credit account, got stacking discounts, then used a coupon my mom had given me from HER account (they mailed it to her) and we got like $500 worth of stuff for maybe $150. I paid it off and haven't used it since then.

But obv what you're talking about is a bit different.

>>28975

>>28314
These are cool, and they subvert building laws in America which is nice, but how much does a normal 'fixer-upper' cost in Detroit these days, with large blocks to plant a garden? $150?

>>28869

Yeah I just took highschool economics too.

On the topic of shipping containers, is it really possible to bury one or two side-by side underground, with another pair of containers stacked above them?
Also, how wind-proof and sturdy would a house of them really be?

I've seen this, the problem is finding a place to legally park that thing and have it as a residence.

mobile home for hipsters.

>>29037
Yeah but then you live in Detroit.

>>29055
It's already been said that it would require a LOT of reinforcement to be able to bury the shipping containers without them collapsing.

>>29055
Depends on how well the footing they are sitting on are made, and how well they are sealed. As ever, the engineering has to be worked out for the site.

>>29069
After about two months work as a labourer you could buy half a street. With that much space and salvageable material the place is as good or bad as you make it.

>>29091
Crime and pollution doesn't care how much of the street you own. Also,
>finding work in Detroit

Dude, there's a reason you can spit in a cup in detroit and trade it for a piece of bread. Detroit is like Little Africa.

>>29135
>Little Africa

Precisely why being someone who can actually do things is valuable, and as the rust belt expands its best to acclimatise yourself to it as soon as possible.

>>28912
>>28912
>>28912
>>28912
Grow the fuck up you childish cunt.

>>28945
>>28945
Sounds like he might suffer from a mental problem. You sound like you suffer from blameothersformyproblesITIS. bitch

>>29192
>>29198
I was about to say how the two of you are ruining a perfectly good thread and then I remember we were on 4chan.

>>28945

i am very sorry. that is horrible. i hope you can get over it one day. maybe once you and your husband become self sustaining and you rid yourself of bad people in your life, then things will get better.

i feel totally inspired to buy land and build a sweet shack

i love the idea of going out and chopping my own wood and living on my own terms, raising a son in a home you built yourself would be great, think the opening to hanna

i sure as hell would install some solar panels to support some wifi and a bloody kettle though!

Did someone say Tiny Houses?

>>29386

> Image begins loading
> Enjoying the pleasant-looking cozy home
> Sims character comes up
...

>>29386
Nice gnome

>>28314

For that price you might as well go ahead and get a park model home like http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/for/2645438777.html

I like the idea, but it needs to be cheaper... no more than 8k for the home itself imo if you're going to build it yourself.

If you live in a major port city, you can buy shipping containers substantially cheaper than $3k.
1-2k is what I was being quoted in Houston.

Of course, the shipping is the bitch.

They charged $35 a mile for 50 or less miles, and $50 a mile for over 50 miles, there was another price jump for over 50 miles, (which you would need to get out in the country).

Oh and they delivered em on a flatbed, so you had to have some way to unload em waiting.

When you run the numbers, yeah, it's really cool, but with buying property, shipping containers, transport, various rentals of heavy equipment, you end up spending a down payment on a house in a decent neighborhood pretty fast.

Yea, for all the setup costs of a shipping container, you could buy a similar sized flatbed trailer and a good start on building a house on top of it.

Does anybody know if this will be strong enough to build a house on?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CAR-TRAILER-16FT-UTILITY-FLATBED-ATV-GATOR-TRAILER-NY-/270838106750?p
t=Motors_Trailers&hash=item3f0f358a7e

That doesn't look much different from living in a van.

I live in a van.

And for the setup costs of that, you could buy a decent house trailer and start renovating it.

>>29711

Down by the river?

Also, you can still buy fema trailers used for refugees for goddamn cheap, like under 5k for a doublewide trailer ready to be hooked up.

The singlewides are harder to find now, but are usually cleaner since they weren't occupied as much or at all.

They're cheaper and flimsier than real manufactured homes, but I've lived in worse apartments.

If you live in the south or near a fema refugee site, you can find em locally for way less.

Transport costs are way lower too, and you can have it delivered directly to your property or trailer park.
Here's one that's been all DIY'd up.

Shipping containers are about $1200 in Kansas City.

Now the real shit is people who make boxcars into RV's, hook them to trains and travel North America for CHEAP!

>>29777
What? That's brilliant! Does it actually cost anything to hook them up to trains?

>>29642
$35/mile is a rip, get a friend with a 5th wheel equipped diesel truck and a flatbed. Or make a post on craigslist.

It doesn't take much crane to lift one...see if you can rent the container specific harness.

>>28314
>many people live in storage units, you have to find one where they will be cool and look the other way.

>>29801
A-Are you...
...serious?

>>29801
Using a 5gal bucket as a chamberpot gets old really quick.

>>29811
Lots of people do it, if that's what you're asking.

Addicts, illegal immigrants, sex offenders, people who can't get any other kinda shelter.

REnt is usually less than $200, you can only charge people so much to live in a small, unheated garage with no water, sewer or often electrical hokkups.

>>29830

don't forget that most of them have gate hours ie: good luck going out after 5 or 6 to go get food or whatever

>>29784
You can "rent" a spot on a train going anywhere, I understand it's cheap. Also the locomotive provides electricity but you need your own water and septic tank.

>>29840
More info on boxcar RV's!

bump.

>>29801
Having worked in that industry for nearly a decade, I can pretty confidently say that this may be the exception, rather than a rule. Definitely nothing I've ever heard of. I can confidently tell you that myself and any other property managers I've ever known would NEVER want vagrants/homeless/addicts living on the property. They scare off other potential renters, usually bring other problems with them (their drug use, crap they collect on the streets), stink up your restrooms with what I call "hobo showers," and leave a horrid fucking mess when they leave.

tl;dr: this is not/should not be an option for "cheap living."

Regarding tiny houses in northern climates, I (and a wife, dog and 4 month old son) live in a 16x24 foot cabin in Alaska. I have a 1,000 gallon insulated above ground water tank with a 12 volt RV water pump powered by an electric fence battery and solar charger. The sink greywater discharge runs out into the yard. My outhouse pit was dug 12 feet deep in the winter in 15 minutes by a truck from the power company using the same auger that they dig the telephone pole holes with. We use a $110 5 gallon plus flush tank portable toilet and empty that into the outhouse pit rather than venture out at -60F. The walls are 2x6 on 16 inch spacing with half an inch of foam under the siding, the roof has R-60 fiberglass. The floor is R-30 and sits about a foot off the ground to allow air to circulate and prevent the heat from the house to melt the permafrost and create settlement issues. All in all, it cost me about $25,000 to build on an acre of land that cost $5,000.

My neighbor lives in two 40 foot shipping containers bolted/welded together with straw bales stacked around and on top and a simple shed roof over it to keep the rain/snow off. At -60F his place is even warmer than mine.

Because the ground is permanently frozen and does all manner of wonderful things if it's thawed, there are no in-ground water/sewer utilities in our area, but there is telephone/DSL/electricity. There isn't a whole lot of sunlight in December, so solar is tricky in the winter, we don't have much wind, so that's out as an option for home power generation. I've actually got 10 forested acres now, and have been considering a filtered woodgas fueled generator, with inverter and battery bank mostly for the winter and solar for the 2/3 of the year when the sun is usable.

And back to the core topic, Graduate students at the university here FIGHT over spots on waiting lists for 10 ft x12 ft cabins with no power, water or sewer because the rent is around $150 a month and they're usually heated with a wood stove.

Small places rule here.

>>30155
>>30157

What's living in Alaska like, though? I imagine shipping things over the internet costs an arm and a leg, and food is much more expensive.

Also, if below ground water isn't delivered, how do you get water into your tank?

>>29811
>>29816
>>29830
>>29839
>>30065
not saying that it wouldn't take an extrodinary set of circumstances to make work correctly, but if you found a place that was cool about looking the other way, and you basically watched over the place for them, you could work nights, and have a gym membership to take showers use portable electronics and re-charge them at work or at the gym, or have a small solar panel and 12v battery for power, it's at least feasible, not saying it would be worth it though.
It is starting to happen more and more with the steady unemployment.

ITT Souped up shacks

humpitybumpbump.

>>29730

And this is the first thing people say whenever I mention it.

>>29642
Don't have it transported by those guys. Find a trucker who owns his own rig and have him do it for you. It'll be much cheaper.
And sure you have to buy land, but you just do that, and then you own land!

>>29811
My family did that for a while when I was very small. I don't really remember it though.

>>30462
So... is it down by the river? Is there even a river near where you live?

If there is and you don't, why not?

Oh my god, I may need this in my future.

Please tell me where I can learn construction/plumbing/electritian crap for projects like this!

>>30880
>>30880
try google you stupid fuck

>>30890
no

>>30896
The accumulated ignorance of all my need and apathy will foam up about their waists and all the faggots and neckbeards will look up and shout "Try Google you stupid fuck!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."

>>30923
10/10

saved as a quote to live by

Fuck it, I've got the urge to build a tiny house with a gigantic basement. I need to familiarize myself with building codes to see how do-able this is, simply because the thrill of living in a home with a secret like that is incredibly appealing.

Hell, I've got about 100k in funds that could be liquidated and have been earmarked for eventual home design/purchase. I need to figure out how to do this shit.

>>31003
It would be very expensive. Building codes don't give a fuck, though.

Fuck me.

Fucking Ameripoors.

Houses are like $300 and you still cant afford them.

What the actual fucking fuck.

Australian master race with <5% unemployment and average income of $55k

But you cant come here because were full.

>>31067
Your penis envy is showing brah. Sorry you're Australian

>>31067
>Houses are like $300 and you still cant afford them.
I hope you meant $300k. Otherwise you're wrong and a faggot.
And you ban video games. I'd rather live with only what I need plus substantial luxuries than with the same thing but a bigger house and less freedoms.

>>31067
shut up prisoner, get back to your cell

How would you get electricity if you wanted to build one of these in a remote mountainous area? A generator?

>>31119
Solar panels.

>>28902
Greece

>>28884
If he uses it for customers, he wants a legit copy. This is always the proper way to do things, personal use: pirate , business use: better buy it.

>>31067
I have friends who make 250k a year
I can't disclose how much I make but I can say it is more than that
I'm an american
be madder please

please don't turn this into a " durr i make lots of money so spend it all on a house" thread you stupid faggots. Some people would actually prefer to live in a tiny house out in the bush. Most likely to get away from people like you.

I squat in a home in a major city in the US with an vacancy rate of 21 percent for all homes. I think building new homes is great, but in all reality there are too many homes by speculation and our limitless growth economy (hah) that there are needs to be fulfilled. I plan to buy the home, which is 1500 square feet and has beautiful woodwork throughout, with a basement and a pingpong table for 8,000 dollars if the old ladies in California who bought it for 15,000 dollars in 2007 during the housing bubble's peak. They have made more than a lion's share in renting this place, and so I'd like to call it my home.

I want a really nice, big sized house outside of town for my family. I want a pull barn to do projects and other things in. Couple acres to stretch my legs on...

It'd be nice. Too bad acreage and housing isn't cheap around here any more. Not that it's incredibly pricy, but no longer cheap.

Still, the RV/Mobile Home idea is a good one. Keep it maintained well enough and it's not creepy. Plus if you ever want to get up and go, you can take it with you. Sure beats sleeping at a hotel.

>>31360
holy shit, where can I find that kinda deal?

If someone was renting one, it was cheaper than a regular apartment, and that nice? Yeah, for sure.
So to all those /diy/ers who need extra income, build one of these in your back yard and I will come live in it.

>>31378

I found it by having two friends live here for a year and then move out because of the tension of living with a friend. When two months rolled by and no one had come to do ANYTHING to the house I wrangled a key from one of them, and moved everything inside. I have all bills in my name and legally am a tenant here. My best guess is, instead of becoming embroiled in a two year long continuance filled court battle over eviction, they will sell this house to me. Of course, I plan on living here for as long as humanly possible without paying and saving as much money as I can. So until the dogs are barking, I'll sit on the porch XD

I notice alot of discussion of shipping containers. There are also rail only containers, which are not designed to be stacked more than 2 high. They are basicly just detachable semi-trailer boxes. Some are FRP, some aluminum, few of them are steel. You also could just buy a used semi-trailer. If you wanted it on the ground (or posts/blocks) You could remove the rear bumper, the suspension bogie (the part with the airbags or springs, and wheels.) And the landing gear in front. And its just a box then, except its prewired for electrical (sort of.) and has a hardwood floor already. (Note, the suspension is designed to move and is easier to remove than you might think, the other stuff bolts on and off in many cases.) You would need to do something underneath it though, because your wood floor would only be 4 inches or less off the ground.

In OP's video, when he says "I'm totally happy, I don't miss anything at all" at around 2:18- watch his facial expression. He shakes his head and scowls his eyebrows. It's an indicator that he's lying- remember, he's trying to SELL these things. It may not be as happy and comfortable as he makes it out to be.

I have way too much stuff for a small house :(

whenever I lived with other students in housing I always spent 99% of my time in my room and only left to crap, shower or get food (which i ate in my room).

I would love to live in a small house, yesplz!

The house depicted in the video is pretty slick. But really, that looks more like an "office" than a house to me. But being that I'm not wealthy and don't want to owe till the day I die...fuck yeah. That is, if it's just me. Currently I live in a small house (not that small) with five other people.

If it were just me and if it were as nice as the one in the video, then yeah, why the fuck not? I usually come to my bedroom and loiter there anyway.

Where do you put these things?

it gets really annoying when this comes up in conversation and people are like "but what about your family?"
"wut? all my brothers have places to stay and me ol' parents live in their home..."
"no, I mean when you get kids"
"... I dont want kids."
"but what if you get a girlfirend"
"aint gonna happen. look i just wanna live alone in peace and quiet and work til I die, ok?"
but no, somehow they think you cant get trough an entire life alone

>>31727

People worry.

Let 'em, it just means they care, even if it is sometimes a little annoying.

I'd love to have one of these just because

1. No debt
2. Mobile
3. Fits damn near anywhere.

>>31731
yeah they worry
they worry that you've found a way out
"oh shit! no naggy wife and noisy kids, no other responsibilities than himself...can you do that!? is that allowed!?"

>>31753

>>31387

You are all that is wrong with this world.

>>31067
That picture explains why I wont even try to build a house on my own soooo perfectly.

glorious thread
Just what I need considering I am planning to build one in the future, that is, if climate change doesn't kill us all...
And yes, I would live in one, fuck yes...

While I'm young I would like to live in one, when I'm married with kids I would like a full house.

>>31727

It is reasonable to assume that you'll get a gf/wife/whatever sooner or later. Your parents or grandparents might even want you to get a woman.

The said woman will, most likely, want kids at some point.

Thus, small house = most likely a bad decision.

>>31797
if you're jewish maybe

i actually live in a rather large house, large with the possibility to expand under the roof. however ontop of the terrain there's this little house and i shall consider making something out of it. trimming the jungle around : done. bringing electricity back, re-do the walls and ceiling. but that shall be worth it.

>>28667
I just wanted to update you guys that my SO has thumbs up'd the period hut scheme. My cramping, wounded body is ready.

>>31991

that looks amazing

>>31991
allmywant.jpg

I'd rather make an earthbag home and spend less money

you can fill the bags with many different types of materials to suit your needs

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Insulated-Earthbag-House/

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Insulated-Earthbag-House/

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Earthbag-Dome/

I follow this guys blog and he seems to update regularly with all sort of different ideas.

http://earthbagplans.wordpress.com/

plenty of books on the subject in torrents and I favor the pic related design

also a site where a contest was held for building a $300 house and there's lots of different contests with cash prices on this place

http://www.jovoto.com/contests/300house/ideas

>>29543
The fact that the "tiny houses" are smaller is actually a good thing, because it saves you money on heat and electricity.

>>31785
Fuck measuring twice, I've found that if I don't measure like 3 times sometimes I'll get something like that, I measure like nuts, and make sure everything is perfect this way.

>>32254
How much would it cost to build an earthbag house -and- give it electricity and running water? Is it naturally insulated?

I totally would and I'd enjoy traveling the Western Hemisphere with it. But if I were to do that, why not just buy a nice RV or Tour Bus?

>>32254
that's pretty sweet!

I am seriously considering saving up and going to build a tiny house in some form or another...

Do you know I could have gone my entire life without knowing any of this? I love you /diy/ ...

There was a very good article in the New Yorker magazine about a guy who is obsessed with this. i am a gonna try to dig it up.......

speaking for myself, i would not live in one quite as small as OP

but if the same design principles were applied to a "standard" trailer park single wide or double wide, this type of innovation may point to a revolution in cheap housing.

tl;dr I've always wanted to get a double decker bus and make it a motor home.....

>>32254
You can seriously build your own house for 300 dollars? Does that include electricity? I don't mind not having plumbing, I can always use an outhouse and get my own water, but electricity is pretty important to me, considering I am addicted to the internet.

I can probably live comfortably off of some kind of things like laptops, or cellphones that only need to be charged for a limited time. Would solar panels work? Charge them up during the day, while I am at work, then they run the rest of the night when I am at home?

>>32254
Thats a nice concept but two problems: Heavy Rain and Flooding.

You'd have to make that thing floodproof and with a style of home like that its a hard thing to do.

>>32357
it depends on the materials really, but for example if you used rice hulls which are a great building material and have an r-rating insulation it shouldn't be a lot. Depending on where you live, you could even get them for free and would just have to pay for shipping/moving the rice hulls. Then you just have to calculate the costs of the earth bags which are rather cheap.

After that it's just the regular pricing for a homes electrical wiring, plumbing, glass, etc.

Electricity and running water depend a lot on how much use you have and the method of obtaining it (solar, wind, rain water, streams, lakes,etc) so it depends on the area where you are building it.

But here is a link on saving costs on electricity by building an earth home using various other different techniques to lessen the cost even more.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SolarHomes/Romania/CristianHouse.htm

the main idea here is using the sun and heat retention to maintain the home at a comfortable temperature. Specifically he uses special windows which are facing the area where the sun stays up the longest and a PAHS umbrella which you can google for more info on the subject.

>>32409

Good luck travelling the Western Hemisphere and all

>>32254
.......that is not a home, that is a bunker, a cave, a man made hole in the ground...

>>32357
i imagine if you had a heater of some kind, it would stay warm in there better than in a normal home

>>32442
you need to add up how many watts your appliances draw, and then look at solar panels

of course, the manufacturer rating may only be for head-on direct bright sunshine, which you will only get .......... a fraction of the time

>>32489
Did you see the other designs on the same site? Not all of them are underground, and I'm not sure why you're bothered by the idea of partly-underground houses anyway.

>>28314
I love them but the thing is a bare plot of land costs around the same amount as a cheap old house.

Atleast that's the way it seems in my area.

>>>>32442
the $300 home was a concept contest for building homes in impoverished areas.

So yeah it's possible depending on the area, but it's just theory since locations and materials vary a lot

>>32472
flooding is a problem when building an earth sheltered home, so you have to look at the terrain where you are building your home in.

even further than that is the issue with the water tables and of radon in your area

you can find radon maps online

http://www.radon.com/maps/

I've been talking a lot about building my own tiny house for a couple weeks with some friends. Initially, my idea was to refit a bus as a mobile home, but this tiny house thing seems even better. More personal when you build it yourself, y'know?

And on top of that, if you design it yourself as well, you can squeeze in more space than you may realize. The only thing that really sticks out is being able to change the way you live and properly identify what you actually need in your life, occupying space.

I live about 2 hours from the Allegheny National Forest where a lot of people have what are referred to as "hunting cabins". In actuality most are just shacks that are used as weekend homes. While this is too small for daily living for me, I could so see putting one of these up in the woods as a getaway.

>>32050
fact about this house: it was here before the big one that's been built in the early 50's. it's over 100 years old and should be, in fact registered in the municipality as a part of the "patrimoine municipal".
if it is, i should not be allowed to touch it or install anything and pay taxes because it's on my terrain/property.
the alternative if i don't pay extra taxes for having this on my property, the municipality must destroy it.

we live in an idiocracy...

>>32501
color me more than slightly superficial, but ......... won't people be mocked as modern day "cavemen" living in these??

it would be really encouraging if commune-style enclaves sprung up, where groups of 3 - ?? kind of formed a "neighborhood" of these in a general area.

>>32502
yeah, land is NOT cheap anymore. anywhere.

i think the best idea with these is to find property owners who will let you set it up on their land for a fee/rent

that way, you can avoid the big cost of buying the land, property taxes, the fair bit of construction inspections and permits yada yada

I'd love to build and live in one.

But I have no monnies.

>>31991
dude fuck that. don't trim it, keep it hidden

Yes expand it and make it a house and what not, but it could be a secret clubhouse for you!!

I read through this entire website and am really hoping I can muster the perseverance to do this one day. It seems like possibly the most rewarding project you could take on. Building a house, that is.


http://www.simondale.net/house/index.htm

>>32895
it's definitely unconventional so if you have plans to sell it afterwards you may encounter some barriers. Personally I can't stand the Mcmansions made out of paper that most people live in, but to each his own.

I've always liked domed homes like Luke Skywalkers home in Star Wars, but I think I'll build an earthship type home made out of earthbags mostly. I like this design specifically because it lends itself better to growing your own food indoors and it allows me to start out small and then keep expanding rather easily. The end result with be a cross with an inside courtyard in the middle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship

pic isn't what I'm going to build, but I like drawing inspiration from it. Also another good site to look around for inspiration.

http://dornob.com/underground-living-buried-secrets-of-a-stone-desert-home/

and a another blog I like to visit to see any info on solar stuff

http://www.builditsolarblog.com/

here's another mobile home which costs 13k if anyone is interested

http://dornob.com/space-trailer-nasa-architect-now-makes-mini-mobile-homes/

>>28314
no. hell, my friend bought his house for $28k... even if it is a prefab.

>>33521
This is exactly what I was picturing while reading this thread. I really want to do this.

>>34272
agreed. the underground or semi-underground houses are the most appealing to me.

more underground stuff.

Somebody posted about the $50 and up underground house book and left a PDF, but I can't find the post in this thread anymore, it's gone.

Here's the book again:
tinyurl.com/50undergroundhouse

I just finished reading most of the book, and very much liked what I saw, though I'd definitely need to meet somebody in person with experience to help me. My point is, I'm interested in knowing why this PDF seems to be missing a few pages, and if there is a torrent of the video series advertised at the end of the book.


This is my future; if I can't achieve if, I see no purpose in living, and I'd gladly die to have it and keep it. Needless to say, I can gleefully quit my job, get anywhere in the country, and leave everything behind me when the time is right. I have no experience with ANYTHING practical (and I'm already in love with /diy/), I'm really hoping I can seek out somebody with their own underground home and live with them for a while as a form of apprenticeship.

I have no interest in being a leech. Ultimately, I DO want my own place, the means to make my own place and survive there, to help others make their own homes, and to teach others what I know one day, to pay forward what I've gained by helping somebody in the same situation that I'm in right now.

>>34988
well like >>33143 mentioned you can try out this place and volunteer to work there

http://www.simondale.net/house/involve.htm

basically if you lack experience start out small and expand from there later on. So say maybe start out with

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Earthbag-Dome/

and see how it goes. Try living in it and gaining experience from it, and if you like if then build a bigger one.

That's pretty much what I have planed, I start out with that and use it as temporary housing while I build the bigger place later on. Later I'll use it as a shed or whatever I need.

there are plenty of threads on the alt housing forum on CraigsList. most people seem to be into this for minimalistic living, not financial reasons.

Detroit, some small towns in Indiana, etc. have cheap houses (around $10k) if you can pay cash... all are in fucking blizzard zones, have no economy to speak of, and have a high-ish crime rate.

Florida has some cheap houses that I'd want to buy if I had the cash and could afford the homeowner's insurance and any renovation costs.

if you want cheap, try building an earthship with found objects. if I were to build from scratch, I'd personally go for a strawbale house.